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🦁 Attending FFA this July! 🐺
3 years ago
There's a new furry convention launching this July in Tulsa that looks to be a breath of fresh air, boldly hosting 2_Gryphon as their first guest of honor. Unfortunately, many legacy furry conventions have degenerated their values and have adopted far left political ideologies, in particular mob mentality and the pressure to cave to cancel comedians, entertainers and the like who make light of the fandom in ways they find offensive.
Free Fur All, in contrast wants to firmly establish their values against cancel culture and general online hearsay. Everyone is encouraged to participate and the panels and events are all sensible, promote positive mental health and even some that help you grow your furry business. I've honestly been hungry for a more mature convention and this looks right up our alley. We will be going! If you have been looking for a more intimate con to meet some of your favorite based furries, this may be one to keep on your radar.
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Ofcourse this convention is causing an uproar among woke Twitter types but we all know how that goes. The more they try to censor, the more people will want to go. Hope to see you there!
Well Y'all are still people regardless and this con is probably more something to watch from the sidelines. So sure have fun at the con I guess?
" you cannot be a minority and a majority at the same time, brainlet."
Now the insult comes out of nowhere and should probably have stayed there. But in my comment I was talking about Minorities in wider society making up a majority of the furry Fandom (I don't know the exact statistics, but it was like around a third that identified as exclusively heterosexual(Which is the Majority in our wider society))
Oh also anything I write here is not supposed come off as accusatory or derogatory in any way. If it does come off that way then I did a bad job, People can not be judged solely on their politics. Since bad people can hide in supposedly "good" political circles. and vice versa.
Let's get back to it.
"Further, the fact that most furries are gay just goes to say something about gay people. What that is, who can say?"
Uh what are you trying to imply about gay people here? You can't just say something like that as a leading question. I truly hope you aren't implying that gay people should stay in the closet about who they are, for their entire life while straight people shouldn't.
That would be very bad for the people in question, just imagine you being in a romantic relationship with someone and having it forced to be a secret, else you'll feel the repercussions.
Imagine what kind of stress that would put, first on the people in that relationship, and therefore the relationship themself.
Plus holding heterosexual relationships above homosexual ones is just arbitrary. Its neither based on science nor really on solid philosophy. Love is love.
Now what one could argue is that the furry fandom is more widely accepting of LGBT+ people, which is why it is mostly made up of them. A sorta feedback loop, which probably got started by furries not being accepted by wider society.
"which is why it, being a fetish, like most fetishes, are usually kept private."
Well for one that is a very subjective thing, there are furries that do not enjoy the sexual aspect of the Fandom. They come for the Community and the SFW Art. (I know several)
My personal definition of "Right wing" would be on the most basic level: "an ideology that upholds hierarchy over equality" now that entails a lot of things. And most Liberals (While not openly acknowledging so) would fall into that category. Simply by upholding a system that is intrinsically hierarchical. (But honestly, I'm from germany, and the Liberals over in the States would be at most center right here, since no real left wing positions are being represented in the states. The most one could get would be from the leftmost wing of the democratic party, and even those could only be called "Social democrats" so left Leaning, not full fledged Leftist)
But your response to that would probably be to accuse european countries of being "commie scum" which would be the exact thing you tried to do to me soooo yeah.
Now when it comes to cancel culture, the discussion is a lot more nuanced than simply "X people want to ban speech" Since both parties do that, Let me remind you that discussion of communism is banned in the States and that saying you are one WILL get you fired from nearly all jobs.
Now what a lot of lefties would probably argue would be "You don't have a right to a platform" or "Disagreeing with people also falls under free speech" or "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom of Social Consequences" Not entirely bad arguments but I feel they are missing the picture here. Since Social media is controlled by corporations.
If we are talking strictly under the law here, those corporations are allowed to do whatever they please with their platforms. I don't think that is a good thing, since that control then falls to a very small handful of people right up at the top of the Corporate Hierarchy.
Now what I'd argue for would be an establishment of a sort of "digital Commons" a digital town square, if you will. Where who can say what, is left up to democracy, instead of an oligarchy. Now that has problems, but I'd argue much less so than our current model.
Since there's also an incentive for people at the top to make as much money as possible, and negative emotion is what gets engagement. Its only logical that they emphasize negative emotions over positive and so on. That is very much why Twitter is the Cesspool of Hatred it currently is.
Anyways, this is about what I had to say. I hope you aren't going to rip my guts out this time, I tried not to be angry. People deserve Empathy in all walks of Life.
Since I hope we can agree that certain types of speech shouldn't be tolerated (Like Sexual Harassment for example, or Harassment in general) it is best to leave that up to people in general to decide than a small handful of people who can dictate it to everyone else.
And I agree that that Idea falls by the wayside with the regular leftist talking points for this topic things like "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom of Social Consequence" just doesn't cut it imo, It ignores the wider picture.
But also I really hope you didn't mean what you said about gay people. that would be very bad
I meant mostly this.
" the fact that most furries are gay just goes to say something about gay people. What that is, who can say? Not terribly flattering if you ask me, which is why it, being a fetish, like most fetishes, are usually kept private."
But its fair if you didn't mean it quite the way you said it.
What I read from it was you calling Homosexuality simply a fetish that should be hidden. Which I'd strongly disagree with, considering how we would be holding Homosexuality to a different standard than Heterosexuality. Then there's the stress it causes on Relationships and People. And the Unfair social stigmas that inevitably spring from that exact idea.
If you do not think that Homosexuality is in some way worse than Heterosexuality, you shouldn't be saying such things.
So yeah that's what I hope you didn't say with that statement tbh.
I'm not right wing myself, not that it should matter. The 'us vs them' types aren't good people.
But that is by no means an accurate descriptor of a person as a whole.
But yeah I think its reasonable to say that they are right leaning at least, from their choice of Guest of honour, their language and implicit criticism of regular furcons. But for all I know they haven't associated themselves with the Furry Raiders specifically, or Nazi Furs in general. so describing them as that wouldn't be fair.
I'd contest your claim with the left/right not having to do with being a furry tho. Since one part of the american Aisle has made it a sort of ritual to shit on them specifically and the other hasn't. (well mostly) (I'm just gonna point to the Litterbox accusations here(as the most recent example))
And associating yourself with that is simply paradoxical to me, Since those are probably the kind of people that would hate your guts if they ever found out you're a furry.
I don't attend conventions to be an activist, I attend to meet people who also like furry content.
So... can I safely say that you are indeed a national socialist? =)
PD: Pretty ironic you posted this journal
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9944493
plus they actually have an aviation furs panel set up there, so yeah...cant resist that!