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2 years ago
Dineegla's Arctic Journal
I had a very nice friend from the fandom come out this weekend and help me clean. He drove all the way from Michigan, and he made me feel so wanted. He has his own life and his own job, but I was happy that someone bothered to come and help me out IN MY HOME.
I don’t think this is the mutterings of an almost 70 year old man. I have dropped out of a lot of telegram groups. There’s a lot of young people there, and they have their own lives. It’s scary when you get into a group and say hello, and no one, I mean no one, acknowledges you. I was in a group where someone in the group started in on me because I was a Greymuzzle call me a “boomer,“ and had the audacity to say, “just because you’re older, doesn’t mean you’re wiser.“ The moderator of the group is/was a good friend of mine. But he did not support me and he said that his member was stubborn and wouldn’t apologize. And being chastised by a woman in Canada when I asked about art prices, then who sent me a picture I believe she created. A picture that puts down Greymuzzles. Maybe I’m wrong. Or maybe I’m just not “with it” anymore, as that women in Canada said to me. My husband was Canadian, and I always thought the Canadians were a cut above everyone else. She proved me wrong.
The fandom was meant to be a shared, uplifting experience for all people. We have noble causes that we support at conventions. I am so proud of that, and I am so proud that my hometown convention really puts forth the effort to make our convention enjoyable by all people! I am sure all the conventions all over, do their best for people who attend. And after almost 16 years of being on OUR staff, I felt so proud.
So I am at a crossroads now. I don’t think I will continue in the Fandom, because I am a critical voice, and someone might say, “oh he only longs for yesteryear.” And someday, younger furs become older furs, and the fandom may ignore them too. We started a beautiful movement, and I had hoped for better things, than what’s happening now.
Note bene: my journal was closed for comment for personal reasons. I have now changed that, and I want people to understand I just needed to take a step back.
Dineegla
I don’t think this is the mutterings of an almost 70 year old man. I have dropped out of a lot of telegram groups. There’s a lot of young people there, and they have their own lives. It’s scary when you get into a group and say hello, and no one, I mean no one, acknowledges you. I was in a group where someone in the group started in on me because I was a Greymuzzle call me a “boomer,“ and had the audacity to say, “just because you’re older, doesn’t mean you’re wiser.“ The moderator of the group is/was a good friend of mine. But he did not support me and he said that his member was stubborn and wouldn’t apologize. And being chastised by a woman in Canada when I asked about art prices, then who sent me a picture I believe she created. A picture that puts down Greymuzzles. Maybe I’m wrong. Or maybe I’m just not “with it” anymore, as that women in Canada said to me. My husband was Canadian, and I always thought the Canadians were a cut above everyone else. She proved me wrong.
The fandom was meant to be a shared, uplifting experience for all people. We have noble causes that we support at conventions. I am so proud of that, and I am so proud that my hometown convention really puts forth the effort to make our convention enjoyable by all people! I am sure all the conventions all over, do their best for people who attend. And after almost 16 years of being on OUR staff, I felt so proud.
So I am at a crossroads now. I don’t think I will continue in the Fandom, because I am a critical voice, and someone might say, “oh he only longs for yesteryear.” And someday, younger furs become older furs, and the fandom may ignore them too. We started a beautiful movement, and I had hoped for better things, than what’s happening now.
Note bene: my journal was closed for comment for personal reasons. I have now changed that, and I want people to understand I just needed to take a step back.
Dineegla
Vix
Oye! Some people can so cruel just for the heck of it.
You do whatever you feel is necessary, and know that you have supporters here on FA
2- I was in that Telegram group too, I saw those messages in the chat and I blocked the person when the moderator calmed things down and I was kinda angry when everyone acted like nothing happened. I left the group after I noticed you left.
3- There are a lot of good things I learned from you for life and I want to thank you greatly.
I never was really into group chats with many strangers because even before then I felt like I didn't fit in. That's why I think it's best to either join a group with people that you're familiar with or start your own... I think the latter would be good because you could allow anyone to join and feel welcome. You're always going to find rotten people everywhere, but for every rotten person there's always more better people to get to know and know that you still have others who still want to support you ✨
For instance, have sketchbook parties and perhaps some special programming (an open call for readings or other things that we liked.) A MLP watching party... anything.
Furry conventions started in this very way -- as room parties and tracks.
I noticed TFF was rather light on some types of programming (practically nothing on writing, for example.) It can't harm conventions if we carve out a little space there and do our own fun activities.
Yeah, we need to take over some programming and start making the fandom about something more than fursuits.
I refuted his idea saying that everybody is important. Then he just "throw money to my face for buy a fursuit a be somebody" and I return the favor saying "I take your virtual money and give it to a charity because is better than buy a rug with fleas". I got his permanent ban, lol. I am soo sad. XD
The people that do matter are more like the friend that came out to see you. These people are as rare as perfectly cut pieces of gem-quality bixbite (and that's pretty darned rare). Treasure people like whoever this guy is.
That's why I'm hesitant to go on "Younger crowd" things like Telegram, TikTok etc [Imagine it's full of them] I was hesitant to join Twitter for the longest time, but that seems alright
Seriously, though, I haven't been able to afford a con in nearly a decade (and I haven't been around a group of furries I liked in nearly as long), so I can't vouch for the state of the fandom. But what you're saying sounds to me like mental scarring on those other people from treatment they've received. Cruelty begetting cruelty. What a lovely world we live in. I'm sorry you've experienced this.
For your mental sanity don't use telegram for follow groups using your real ID. I follow art groups with a not so known OC of me, so they just don't pick me for being a "boomer".
Let's being honest here: Several young furries are wokes that get offended by everything and/or little pricks with no shame at all. When I joined a mexican group in telegram, people started to ask me in my face for get my dirty socks and undies as trophy. So basically I don't need anything from them and I quit for good the idea to assist to their meetings or furcons.
But despite I made private my twitter, I don't let that a bunch or weird kids ruin my life. I am just more selective to who I talk from now. These people think that they will never get older, but soon or late someone will call them "millennial sh!t" for like "primitive consoles" like the PS5/XboxOne/Switch or used junk like Windows 11 at work.
This place needs critical voices, because furries are more than just kinky people sharing dirty clothes and acting stupid eating Tide pods. Or at least I hope that.
we are older okay and so what? Maybe it's different for me because I am still reading Mangas and Wanthing Japanime but still what?
what we can do is still help them and give them guidance with what we went through. stuff that their own parents might not even try to.
that's why I agree each 6 months, more or less, to hold panels online when i give pointers in what i know to the younger ones.
it might not be much, some probably think it's useless. But...I think it's better than when I was alone trying to make my way through life by myself.