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2 years ago
I am poor please support me via Patreon or DeviantArt
On IB recently nearly all of my art flagged as AI, yes... Even my first wobbly line arts??!
Someone has been abusing the vote system of https://aiornot.optic.xyz/ to get back at me for using it to ruse out people who use AI to plagiarise others' work on places like DeviantArt. Prior to this my said art did not flag as "AI" on the detector. I had promoted the site in the past and these trolls have gone out of their way to trick the detector.
I have found that non-GAN "denoisers" also produce false-positives as well. So I recommend not uploading denoised or upscaled art to sites like FA.
For example, using the aforementioned AI detector, compare this free royalty-free stock image gradient with the denoised version:
https://img.freepik.com/premium-pho.....678264-850.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/02BKHXg/image-2715.png
You'll notice one detects as AI and the other not. What's different? One has an unsteady sigmoidal curve to its gamut, the other has a stable sigmoidal curve. In English? What else does this? Certain configurations of gradient maps, G'Mic and various blend modes! As I have told many people you cannot rely solely on AI detectors. You have to use AI detectors to "root out" potentials and then quiz the uploader for proof. Detecting AI with a algorithm and just outright deleting content is not the way forward to catch AI plagiarists, taking down art is always going to hurt artists who spent time on their pieces far more than AI posters who spend seconds.
On FA, recently one of my most popular pieces, "A Kind of Moth that's Drawn to You" was taken down and I was given a 1st-offence warning, it had a lot of favourites and comments. Just like it has still on DeviantArt:
https://www.deviantart.com/inafoxy/.....-You-899830058
I sent a support ticket but haven't heard anything back yet, I sent proof I made the piece:
https://ibb.co/TkSTT7d (bases)
https://ibb.co/3WpsxfM (lines)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/2021-.....files-83984222 (files)
I did not receive this negative attention until I joined the anti-AI protests on DA:
https://www.deviantart.com/inafoxy/.....rism-963180953
As you can judge by the comments, I have been under attack by a large quantity of malicious pro-AI trolls just for posting my stance on the matter and they have often hinted they'd do this as "revenge" for artists rejecting AI spam on art sites.
I am a slow artist, disabled as well, who is very focused on fine-detail and matte rendering. So as you can imagine this was quite a blow to me and my confidence as an artist. I know a lot of people don't spend nowhere near as much time as me on their work (which is respectable), but as you can imagine it's very upsetting to be accused of generating AI ages that take seconds to do so when you spend weeks to months painting each of your pieces. I don't have a lot of art so the few, heavily time-invested art I have that's taken down isn't a very nice experience and is very unfair.
I don't know if the removal is permanent or if they can reinstate it, but either way it makes me feel concerned about the stability of a future on FA as I gain more and more skill. To think that others go unpunished with undetecting AI images while an innocent person like me who tries hard gets false-flagged doesn't rub well with me. I don't charge for people to see my art and no one visits my Patreon. Despite being poor I am humble and am not self-entitled to such things, but I do think like all artists I deserve some respect. I have no reason to exploit AI or steal from others. And many images that are genuinely AI-involving get off scot-free at random discretion. I've reported AI before but the mod team often doesn't do anything about it yet my older artwork, that was made before the whole AI thing, gets taken down...
The trouble is AI primarily rips off the features from detailed/fine art, so the more I pursue fineness and detail, the more likely a growing artist who seeks that skill is to be false-flagged. Even renown industrial artists have been affected by this, for example:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl.....rt-controversy
I also posted here on IB:
https://inkbunny.net/j/486122-Inafo.....-quot-ai-quot-
My current state of affairs are not good irl and face many losses. Art is an escape for me from the harsher realities. I do not really want to leave FA, but I do value my safety of social permanence and belonging in an art community I feel welcome in, to escape to. I love appreciating others' art, and encouraging them, just as much as sharing my own work.
I am not certain where I am even safe anymore, DA is polluted with plagiarism, Twitter is run by a transphobic borg assimilator, and being deprecated to the level of a plagiarist deeply saddens me.
If as a community you have any recommendations to stay safe from these false-flags I'd like to hear it.
Thank you for reading.
Someone has been abusing the vote system of https://aiornot.optic.xyz/ to get back at me for using it to ruse out people who use AI to plagiarise others' work on places like DeviantArt. Prior to this my said art did not flag as "AI" on the detector. I had promoted the site in the past and these trolls have gone out of their way to trick the detector.
I have found that non-GAN "denoisers" also produce false-positives as well. So I recommend not uploading denoised or upscaled art to sites like FA.
For example, using the aforementioned AI detector, compare this free royalty-free stock image gradient with the denoised version:
https://img.freepik.com/premium-pho.....678264-850.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/02BKHXg/image-2715.png
You'll notice one detects as AI and the other not. What's different? One has an unsteady sigmoidal curve to its gamut, the other has a stable sigmoidal curve. In English? What else does this? Certain configurations of gradient maps, G'Mic and various blend modes! As I have told many people you cannot rely solely on AI detectors. You have to use AI detectors to "root out" potentials and then quiz the uploader for proof. Detecting AI with a algorithm and just outright deleting content is not the way forward to catch AI plagiarists, taking down art is always going to hurt artists who spent time on their pieces far more than AI posters who spend seconds.
On FA, recently one of my most popular pieces, "A Kind of Moth that's Drawn to You" was taken down and I was given a 1st-offence warning, it had a lot of favourites and comments. Just like it has still on DeviantArt:
https://www.deviantart.com/inafoxy/.....-You-899830058
I sent a support ticket but haven't heard anything back yet, I sent proof I made the piece:
https://ibb.co/TkSTT7d (bases)
https://ibb.co/3WpsxfM (lines)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/2021-.....files-83984222 (files)
I did not receive this negative attention until I joined the anti-AI protests on DA:
https://www.deviantart.com/inafoxy/.....rism-963180953
As you can judge by the comments, I have been under attack by a large quantity of malicious pro-AI trolls just for posting my stance on the matter and they have often hinted they'd do this as "revenge" for artists rejecting AI spam on art sites.
I am a slow artist, disabled as well, who is very focused on fine-detail and matte rendering. So as you can imagine this was quite a blow to me and my confidence as an artist. I know a lot of people don't spend nowhere near as much time as me on their work (which is respectable), but as you can imagine it's very upsetting to be accused of generating AI ages that take seconds to do so when you spend weeks to months painting each of your pieces. I don't have a lot of art so the few, heavily time-invested art I have that's taken down isn't a very nice experience and is very unfair.
I don't know if the removal is permanent or if they can reinstate it, but either way it makes me feel concerned about the stability of a future on FA as I gain more and more skill. To think that others go unpunished with undetecting AI images while an innocent person like me who tries hard gets false-flagged doesn't rub well with me. I don't charge for people to see my art and no one visits my Patreon. Despite being poor I am humble and am not self-entitled to such things, but I do think like all artists I deserve some respect. I have no reason to exploit AI or steal from others. And many images that are genuinely AI-involving get off scot-free at random discretion. I've reported AI before but the mod team often doesn't do anything about it yet my older artwork, that was made before the whole AI thing, gets taken down...
The trouble is AI primarily rips off the features from detailed/fine art, so the more I pursue fineness and detail, the more likely a growing artist who seeks that skill is to be false-flagged. Even renown industrial artists have been affected by this, for example:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl.....rt-controversy
I also posted here on IB:
https://inkbunny.net/j/486122-Inafo.....-quot-ai-quot-
My current state of affairs are not good irl and face many losses. Art is an escape for me from the harsher realities. I do not really want to leave FA, but I do value my safety of social permanence and belonging in an art community I feel welcome in, to escape to. I love appreciating others' art, and encouraging them, just as much as sharing my own work.
I am not certain where I am even safe anymore, DA is polluted with plagiarism, Twitter is run by a transphobic borg assimilator, and being deprecated to the level of a plagiarist deeply saddens me.
If as a community you have any recommendations to stay safe from these false-flags I'd like to hear it.
Thank you for reading.
All while telling artists in general to not protect their art with Glaze AI, etc.
Relevant:
https://www.deviantart.com/stop-ai-.....-A-I-954151128
seriously sucks that they are targeting you like this.
keep fighting the good fight
>get memed on using the same tool
lol, lmao even. AI art is here forever, nothing is going to change that, and i dont care if you think its "fascism"
Actually I was going to drop this DA journal today so I'll do so now, fits all of your repetitive non-logical arguments perfectly, and how "fascism" literally "is" AI plagiarism ideology:
https://www.deviantart.com/inafoxy/.....cism-968340977
you are, without any shadow of a doubt, completely fucking mental. Im not going to read your schizo ramblings past that first line.
using existing artwork to train an AI is not theft, it never has been, it never will be, because nothing is being stolen from you. Its actually pretty textbook fair use.
You can continue shitting money at random gofundmes all you want but that will not change the fact that this technology is here to stay. you cannot ban innovation because you are irrationally scared of the funny maths.
You are NOT entitled to using other people's work to promote your private-property ideology. Production is ALWAYS the product of the worker, not the machine that launders their efforts. So go feed your own "art" into a machine and not others'.
Artists don't "need" to make art, your AI wouldn't function without us, yet you don't compensate us. You hate us, but you want to be us.
And thank you for your DM offer <3
I sent an appeal and evidence WIPs etc no response yet :/