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2 years ago
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As some may be already aware from my last journal, yet ANOTHER image was taken down.
This time it was a INKING that was primarily uncoloured.
This is after several ticket bumps and them saying they didn't receive the two emails I sent them, plus I sent an additional third in the end.
As always, I haven't been rude at all in my tickets either, just providing proof and explaining the situation.
See: https://i.ibb.co/SJmmgjT/7.gif
This image (NSFW) was taken down from FA:
https://e621.net/posts/4443685?q=inafox
The whole artwork is 100% made by me. Not an AI whatsoever. It's literally lines, specks and gradients on TRANSPARENT layers, which AI can't do.
It's an ink drawing for goodness sake. There's not a single element in my artwork that is at all resembling an AI image. Admittedly it's a bit low res and the lower resolution version is a bit wonky, but that's not my fault, I did do these pieces on mobile CSP, mostly when I was in hospital a few weeks ago.
A lot of the art I make is just WAY too big for an AI to process as well. And trolls saying I can't "draw as good" as in my ink drawings I just posted, clearly are blind to the timelapses and other WIPs I've posted in the past that document my work. The ink drawing got a lot of favourites, more than my higher-quality artwork, and I'm thankful of that but adding a few extra tufts and doing male POV doesn't mean that ink drawing is "better" than my other art. As a female I personally prefer making art that isn't male POV, and determining male POV as "better" just seems clearly misogynistic. It was the first set of images I had made in mind to appeal predominantly to males, while my usual art is purely fun / self-expression or side practice work.
I made another ticket, no response yet, saying this:
https://pastebin.com/fdQVXEMX
You can look at the forensic stuff I added as well, they're added as links.
It's clear every element in my art is 100% a line of the same 2 brushes, or a gradient and all my other art has similar such elements of rendering.
Trolls were saying my art looks AI because "gradients" as well, then when I do line art or painting they call that AI, too. It's nonsense and hearsay.
This is done even after literally telling me to upload lines as WIPs.
I don't like that FA is second-besting obvious evidence when the trolls who reported me are both pro-AI and harass me on just about everything from autism, my disabilities and the fact I'm trans and intersex as well. I don't see a lot of people who aren't being bullied and targeted having their images taken down (or at least they haven't said), but I have noticed those who have had this issue were being cancelled by some troll, etc. So clearly discriminatory obviously and I don't like how FA just let people exploit their report system this way. This all started on Discord ages ago, it impacted my DA, my IB and e6. Though fortunately e6's mods would listen to me, may be because many are artists themselves. I don't know who's who with FA's moderators cause it's all anonymous, and I have no idea their experience with art nor what objective system they use to evaluate if something is AI.
I was accused of "partial" AI edits after being accused of it being "fully AI", and even another time a "trace over AI" which makes no sense at all as you could say that for all art without evidence obviously as my previous journal mentioned.
FA mods didn't tell me what or where the "partial edit" was on the image that was "supposed" to be AI. I can't even figure out how partial AI editing would work in CSP for goodness sake, it's not AI Photoshop. And inversely AI doesn't understand Clip Studio Paint's layered proprietary format or brushes and special layers nor transparency. But remember, this happened even for a project that was pre-AI era, had vector layers and 100% layer FX, so it doesn't seem this is particularly cared for or regard.
At best FA will have a proper look at the evidence, or at least tell me what they think is AI so I can replace that and document it .
Or at worst someone is biased and just trying to cancel me or remove me from the site, in which case you too should be vigilant.
Or it could go somewhere in-between like they just refuse to look at the evidence and show they don't have any AI determination method to begin with and go by report counts.
Hopefully they'll see some sense though, I've probably spent more time defending the piece than I spent drawing it by now since it's been a whole week coming on two now.
But if I don't make these appeals, and I upload another art, and get warned because they decide that's AI, too. I can get banned right?
So yeah, what else am I supposed to do, just sit and be cancelled and be continually abused by trolls on the other sites full of AI I guess if FA doesn't let me use its site anymore?
This time it was a INKING that was primarily uncoloured.
This is after several ticket bumps and them saying they didn't receive the two emails I sent them, plus I sent an additional third in the end.
As always, I haven't been rude at all in my tickets either, just providing proof and explaining the situation.
See: https://i.ibb.co/SJmmgjT/7.gif
This image (NSFW) was taken down from FA:
https://e621.net/posts/4443685?q=inafox
The whole artwork is 100% made by me. Not an AI whatsoever. It's literally lines, specks and gradients on TRANSPARENT layers, which AI can't do.
It's an ink drawing for goodness sake. There's not a single element in my artwork that is at all resembling an AI image. Admittedly it's a bit low res and the lower resolution version is a bit wonky, but that's not my fault, I did do these pieces on mobile CSP, mostly when I was in hospital a few weeks ago.
A lot of the art I make is just WAY too big for an AI to process as well. And trolls saying I can't "draw as good" as in my ink drawings I just posted, clearly are blind to the timelapses and other WIPs I've posted in the past that document my work. The ink drawing got a lot of favourites, more than my higher-quality artwork, and I'm thankful of that but adding a few extra tufts and doing male POV doesn't mean that ink drawing is "better" than my other art. As a female I personally prefer making art that isn't male POV, and determining male POV as "better" just seems clearly misogynistic. It was the first set of images I had made in mind to appeal predominantly to males, while my usual art is purely fun / self-expression or side practice work.
I made another ticket, no response yet, saying this:
https://pastebin.com/fdQVXEMX
You can look at the forensic stuff I added as well, they're added as links.
It's clear every element in my art is 100% a line of the same 2 brushes, or a gradient and all my other art has similar such elements of rendering.
Trolls were saying my art looks AI because "gradients" as well, then when I do line art or painting they call that AI, too. It's nonsense and hearsay.
This is done even after literally telling me to upload lines as WIPs.
I don't like that FA is second-besting obvious evidence when the trolls who reported me are both pro-AI and harass me on just about everything from autism, my disabilities and the fact I'm trans and intersex as well. I don't see a lot of people who aren't being bullied and targeted having their images taken down (or at least they haven't said), but I have noticed those who have had this issue were being cancelled by some troll, etc. So clearly discriminatory obviously and I don't like how FA just let people exploit their report system this way. This all started on Discord ages ago, it impacted my DA, my IB and e6. Though fortunately e6's mods would listen to me, may be because many are artists themselves. I don't know who's who with FA's moderators cause it's all anonymous, and I have no idea their experience with art nor what objective system they use to evaluate if something is AI.
I was accused of "partial" AI edits after being accused of it being "fully AI", and even another time a "trace over AI" which makes no sense at all as you could say that for all art without evidence obviously as my previous journal mentioned.
FA mods didn't tell me what or where the "partial edit" was on the image that was "supposed" to be AI. I can't even figure out how partial AI editing would work in CSP for goodness sake, it's not AI Photoshop. And inversely AI doesn't understand Clip Studio Paint's layered proprietary format or brushes and special layers nor transparency. But remember, this happened even for a project that was pre-AI era, had vector layers and 100% layer FX, so it doesn't seem this is particularly cared for or regard.
At best FA will have a proper look at the evidence, or at least tell me what they think is AI so I can replace that and document it .
Or at worst someone is biased and just trying to cancel me or remove me from the site, in which case you too should be vigilant.
Or it could go somewhere in-between like they just refuse to look at the evidence and show they don't have any AI determination method to begin with and go by report counts.
Hopefully they'll see some sense though, I've probably spent more time defending the piece than I spent drawing it by now since it's been a whole week coming on two now.
But if I don't make these appeals, and I upload another art, and get warned because they decide that's AI, too. I can get banned right?
So yeah, what else am I supposed to do, just sit and be cancelled and be continually abused by trolls on the other sites full of AI I guess if FA doesn't let me use its site anymore?
It's not fair at all. Too bad us 2D visual artists don't have soviets and companies to protect us unlike how the music industry does. There's no organisations and councils to protect us from AI plagiarism nor accusation thereof.
All of the artists I know who've had the same treatment are "getting cancelled" by trolls, either because they draw feral, have a popular style, or are some minority bigots dislike.