A small recommendation for artists who post on Patreon
11 months ago
I keep getting all these "This guy recommended That guy on Patreon!" emails. That's all well and good. I am glad my friend likes your stuff. But if ALL of your content is behind a paywall, then how am I to decide for myself if I want to support you?
Try having one or two examples of your best work out there for the public to see. I'm not about to drop ten bucks on the off-chance that I might like what's behind that fuzzy outline in your feed.
Try having one or two examples of your best work out there for the public to see. I'm not about to drop ten bucks on the off-chance that I might like what's behind that fuzzy outline in your feed.
I have made the experience, too, that an artist had one piece I really liked and then the rest was not to my personal taste.
It is well and good to support someone's work, but you shouldn't be forced to take a gamble.
like ya said not paying money for the change i might find something i like
I have joined a Patreon before only to find that "Oh, lol! Yeah, I don't draw that kind of art anymore."
Also sick as hell of the amount of advertisements constantly in my inbox over here on FA too. Would love for a required checkbox on advertisements at risk of getting bapped by moderation.
I've been in the fandom for some time and from what I've seen the best model seems to be the two releases approach. Some artists do higher resolution stuff and post to their pay site/s first. A few weeks or months later they post slightly smaller sized versions of the same content to free sites for everyone to see. This gives the patrons first viewing and allows everyone else to see it later, possibly generating future patrons.
Spottycat mentioned how they got a lot of adverts about new paywall site posts, I used to get that too. I started unfollowing those who would post horrible (or very teasing) cropped images of new uploads when they didn't post on free spaces anymore. ( It was also no surprise to me when a skimming site like Yiffparty came along and started posting paywalled content for free. )
On the "Showing no examples"-part: I even 'assumed' some artists went missing, I.e. closed up shop and/or went to greener pastures / the professional industry only to find out that: Oh, they were still around... but on Patreon only. Which is just frustrating (and a huge discoverability problem).
And I totally agree with Nodd on showing at least current works, having an artist drawing stuff that you really enjoyed... only to find out they no longer draw that and you might be wasting your money that way.
But the worst example I can think of was of an artist I really wanted to comission (not naming any names for obvious reasons). Now as some people know, I'm the kind of person who RARELY, if EVER comissions other artists but I wanted a comission from them simply because I really liked their works and was a huge fan... but I was refused! Why? Because I wasn't subscribed to their Patreon. Mind you, I was ready to drop $700,- on them to draw my comission and they REFUSED simply because I wasn't subscribed. That shit just turned me off from Patreon artists altogether and the artist whose works I used to like now leaves a sour taste in my mouth whenever I see their name. Bad business practice all around. If I wasn't subscribed then, I (as a customer) will surely NEVER subscribe now. =/
And don't get me started on the advertisements, it baffles me to no end that so many artists complain about "getting bombarded with advertisements" only to then turn around and do the exact same thing with their Patreon pieces and then wonder why they're losing subscribers... ah yes, it must be "because they're poor" and/or "are freeloaders", NOT because they're constantly getting bombarded with advertisements, nope, no siree! That can't 'possibly' be the case... nah! It must be 'something else' except of course the obvious and glaring problem right on display... /s
I watch artists because I want to (spoiler alert!) see their art, not constant advertisements. Don't get me wrong: Advertising yourself is good but when the only thing you're posting are: "please subscribe to my Patreon"-pieces, don't be suprised when a lot of people clock out.
So yeah, I do sincerely hope some of them wise up if they're really taking Patreon (and their business) seriously.
Many times like you I wanted to join someone's Patreon, I open their page and all I see are locked posts. So how do I make the judgement then if I want to become a patreon or not? I just don't. I'm guessing it's more important to artists nowadays to have a paying viewers, instead of just viewers.