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Regarding AI Corruptions
9 months ago
Recent events have inspired us to rethink our use of AI to create insane corruption porn, which we have created lots of and shared with some in public places that allow AI art, and with other folks that love the same crazy AI smut slop that we do. That we did.
On one hand, we were actually grateful that some places allowed AI art, because finally we had a place to mass-post the incredibly degenerate sinful slop we created, including both 'stories' and pictures. We had also been organizing many more batches of themed uploads, though we haven't yet gone through the effort to actually post most of them.
On the other, we have recently realized some profound arguments against allowing AI art to co-exist alongside REAL art, art made by humans. It's an ecosystem argument, and an economics argument. FA made the right call banning it, but now we're realizing that there should not be ANYWHERE that allows Ai-generated content to co-exist alongside what real artists and authors create.
Artists depend entirely on attention and commissions. AI art is literally taking both away. By posting their art to a platform, an artist is hopeful that people will see their artwork. The more AI art gets posted, the less of a chance that people's eyeballs will see the real art. That further reduces the chance that those eyeballs belong to someone who will become a commissioner, paying the artist those meager wages they need to live and keep creating.
We're not even going to touch on the plagiarism. That is a settled argument. For sure, there is a part of us that really loves AI art and wants to endlessly goon and fap to it. But, how many commissions have never come to pass because of AI imagegen and textgen got us to cum instead? What kind of future do we want? We'd rather be commissioning real artists and authors than clicking buttons on a plagiarism tool. Oh, we fucking LOVE it and want a LOT of it, CONSTANTLY. But now we're enraged at the idea that thousands of orgasms we've had to AI art and text, means that many fewer actual PEOPLE were corrupted and inspired.
That many fewer commissions. That many fewer RPs.
So, as much as what we ourselves have created with AI, we're seeing it in a new light. Every orgasm we've had to what AI has created, is an orgasm that didn't get a chance to occur because of a real human's real effort. It's that many fewer commissions we've bought because of how inexpensive it was for AI to make it instead.
In light of this, we are going cold turkey and stopping the creation of all all AI-generated everything for any reason.
Give real artists your attention and orgasms. AI might give some utterly unique stuff that no artists is willing to draw, but that's an economics issue. Any artist will draw anything an AI could generate, if you pay them enough. But cheap AI art means nobody will want to fork out that much. Taking money out of the mouth of that one artist that WILL draw it.
And sure, AI is going to just keep getting BETTER, and while it already has made the economics of being an artist HARDER, and may inevitably make the entire porn industry OBSOLETE... why advance that? It's not inevitable. We literally do control the future. By allowing AI art to by physically next to the art of real artists, we are robbing them of views and attention and interest and money. We are pitting AI art against real artists. AI art will win near every time. So why fucking let it play?
We have hundreds of AI RP textgens and AI art pictures. And we believe that every single one of them is a picture, story, or RP we COULD have gotten. And in fact WOULD have gotten, too. The depths of depravity that people are capable of is not in question. It was only a matter of instant gratification and low cost. Banish the idea that you could have not have gotten that thing you wanted if only you had money/time/talent. There's plenty of artists and authors and roleplayers out there who are thirsty for your attention if only someone would stop clicking the porn-me-now button!
It can be anyone's personal choice on whether or not they use AI to make porn for themselves. But it is going to be our choice to not force artists or authors to compete with AI porn. Not here where it's banned, not elsewhere where it's welcomed. Even if it's an insanely weird picture that you "never could have gotten commissioned"; that is actually not true! It's "never could have gotten commissioned for THAT CHEAP". It's an economics argument, not a factual one.
We're not saying that you can't make AI art for yourself, or AI RPs for yourself. The tools are here, and are already and likely going to continue to extinguish the entire porn industry and make being a porn artist / animator economically unfeasible. We're just saying that, wherever WE are, where there ARE porn artists and authors, we're not going to force them to compete with AI.
"Just because it is happening everywhere, doesn't mean we have to let it happen HERE."
At first we were like "AHAHA LOOK AT ALL THIS CORRUPTION WE CAN UNLEASH!"
But now we're like "OH NO THINK OF ALL THE CORRUPTION THAT NEVER HAPPENED!"
On one hand, we were actually grateful that some places allowed AI art, because finally we had a place to mass-post the incredibly degenerate sinful slop we created, including both 'stories' and pictures. We had also been organizing many more batches of themed uploads, though we haven't yet gone through the effort to actually post most of them.
On the other, we have recently realized some profound arguments against allowing AI art to co-exist alongside REAL art, art made by humans. It's an ecosystem argument, and an economics argument. FA made the right call banning it, but now we're realizing that there should not be ANYWHERE that allows Ai-generated content to co-exist alongside what real artists and authors create.
Artists depend entirely on attention and commissions. AI art is literally taking both away. By posting their art to a platform, an artist is hopeful that people will see their artwork. The more AI art gets posted, the less of a chance that people's eyeballs will see the real art. That further reduces the chance that those eyeballs belong to someone who will become a commissioner, paying the artist those meager wages they need to live and keep creating.
We're not even going to touch on the plagiarism. That is a settled argument. For sure, there is a part of us that really loves AI art and wants to endlessly goon and fap to it. But, how many commissions have never come to pass because of AI imagegen and textgen got us to cum instead? What kind of future do we want? We'd rather be commissioning real artists and authors than clicking buttons on a plagiarism tool. Oh, we fucking LOVE it and want a LOT of it, CONSTANTLY. But now we're enraged at the idea that thousands of orgasms we've had to AI art and text, means that many fewer actual PEOPLE were corrupted and inspired.
That many fewer commissions. That many fewer RPs.
So, as much as what we ourselves have created with AI, we're seeing it in a new light. Every orgasm we've had to what AI has created, is an orgasm that didn't get a chance to occur because of a real human's real effort. It's that many fewer commissions we've bought because of how inexpensive it was for AI to make it instead.
In light of this, we are going cold turkey and stopping the creation of all all AI-generated everything for any reason.
Give real artists your attention and orgasms. AI might give some utterly unique stuff that no artists is willing to draw, but that's an economics issue. Any artist will draw anything an AI could generate, if you pay them enough. But cheap AI art means nobody will want to fork out that much. Taking money out of the mouth of that one artist that WILL draw it.
And sure, AI is going to just keep getting BETTER, and while it already has made the economics of being an artist HARDER, and may inevitably make the entire porn industry OBSOLETE... why advance that? It's not inevitable. We literally do control the future. By allowing AI art to by physically next to the art of real artists, we are robbing them of views and attention and interest and money. We are pitting AI art against real artists. AI art will win near every time. So why fucking let it play?
We have hundreds of AI RP textgens and AI art pictures. And we believe that every single one of them is a picture, story, or RP we COULD have gotten. And in fact WOULD have gotten, too. The depths of depravity that people are capable of is not in question. It was only a matter of instant gratification and low cost. Banish the idea that you could have not have gotten that thing you wanted if only you had money/time/talent. There's plenty of artists and authors and roleplayers out there who are thirsty for your attention if only someone would stop clicking the porn-me-now button!
It can be anyone's personal choice on whether or not they use AI to make porn for themselves. But it is going to be our choice to not force artists or authors to compete with AI porn. Not here where it's banned, not elsewhere where it's welcomed. Even if it's an insanely weird picture that you "never could have gotten commissioned"; that is actually not true! It's "never could have gotten commissioned for THAT CHEAP". It's an economics argument, not a factual one.
We're not saying that you can't make AI art for yourself, or AI RPs for yourself. The tools are here, and are already and likely going to continue to extinguish the entire porn industry and make being a porn artist / animator economically unfeasible. We're just saying that, wherever WE are, where there ARE porn artists and authors, we're not going to force them to compete with AI.
"Just because it is happening everywhere, doesn't mean we have to let it happen HERE."
At first we were like "AHAHA LOOK AT ALL THIS CORRUPTION WE CAN UNLEASH!"
But now we're like "OH NO THINK OF ALL THE CORRUPTION THAT NEVER HAPPENED!"
All in all so long as the final image has zero components(excluding tool assist but not creation) of AI is fine. That's my take on it
I dont know if others have similar feelings but that shit is hollow and makes me feel shitty anyways. I spend my time instead going through artist's galleries and leaving encouraging comments. Thats just going to be way more fulfilling than pressing the gooning button. Hell, it feels even worse when it takes a good bit of time to get "the results i want", and i look at the clock at the time i wasted lol.
For me, ai still have zero value whatever comes out of it, and i cheer for every art site banning it.
But it's true... eh, whatever.