I try to carry myself as if I was a larger artist, so far I haven't had to deal with idiots to begin with. (Partly thanks to a couple of warnings you threw my way about certain disgraceful individuals who shall not be named and partly because I'm not a big artist)

Some people straight up need to be send go the gulag.

But yeah this journal kinda serves as PSA for everyone to have some respect. And thank god the majority does. But yeah keep drawing and upload your stuff and you might get there. Its a long road to become bigger. But it attracts alot of negative attention too sadly.

Respectful behavior should be the default modus operandi for people but alas it isn't...

But yes, these are exactly the things I keep in mind for all my interactions both with artists big and small, but also people in general.
I try very hard to be a good experience for others. Everyone has problems. Don't make yourself one of them.

You got a point there. Treat everyone with respect. Doesnt matter who they are. Respect their time and boundaries

And really good! Nice to see this

Though I’m not an artist, I work with them consistently. I’m still working on communication. To that end, though, I agree that we are all human and no matter our stature we need to learn how to properly communicate and respect one another, regardless of community standing or what not.

Hopefully I made some sense. My end goal is to say I agree with your points from a non-artist’s perspective. Keep up the great work. It’s a pleasure to be a part of the community you’ve built, and I would not trade it for anything.

Never really understood people's complaint about "Popfurs" sure some people huff their own farts and have quite an ego, but that's a them problem.
Thinking that someone who's watched by thousands will be able to see and respond to you as if you're the only one out of those several thousand to message them.

So many petty issues could be solved if people were just able to think of themselves in someone elses' shoes, and how they'd be able to handle a situation like it.

Thank fate that's not me.
I got one DM this week.
Gonna respond when im feeling social I guess.

Some people cant deal with social interactions wich is valid.

People notice that kind of stuff when they have a large ego. And be detered from them. rightfully so. I tend to hit ignore or block large artists if they spout a massive amount of bullshit and just dont engage with these people. I always tend to let people come to me instead i approach them. Unless theres an important matter i have to tell them or ask. yanno? Other than that i dont bother them.

People often times lack empathy. Fuck me, i was told the other week that my reasoning for blocking a person was shit. Even tho i got 50 or so people blocked on my discord and FA for a fucking reason. Artists also need to protect themselves from these people but its just so fucking sad people lack empathy and common sense.

Being a name can be hazardous for a furs mental health and create much drama. Simply because they are a name

I always try my best to treat everyone the way I want to be treated, regardless of follow-size. Respect is a two-way street, though I've definitely had my fair share of leaches and dickheads who think otherwise. I try not to let it bother me though as the way I think of it, the people who treat me with respect and kindness are the real audience I want to make content for.

Some people legit dont have that respect.

And it hurts so much. I know artists who had so much shit thrown at them and have to bite their tounge to not blow up. Its hard as fuck to do. Because the injustice and needing to grow some skin. Sometimes its paper thin. Preventing is always better. Reconizing red flags and listening to others help and heed their warnings. Its why i always ask for evidence and if its sufficient its a instant block to prevent myself getting herrassed. Its just so difficult if people left and right dig to try to cancel you because they hate you

And yeah even tho this shit seems negative. thank god these people are not the norm. I also know you can tell what kind of person the artist is by their audience and community i think?

Hear hear.

I am just one guy. If I had to give fifteen minutes to everyone who looks at me it'd be like... 1000 hours in one day. C'mon.

Entitlement is so boring.

I used to be bitter too when folks would get upset/pushy with me setting boundaries, then go off & start talking smack about me. I still got a lot of hate clubs from judgments made with half the story over a decade ago framing my presence in community. Some I've even talked to in person at cons who were amicable & fine, but had me blocked & still have me blocked. Used to grind my gears that not only was hate being thrown at me, but that others hear hate & simply nod along with it.

Nowadays, I think "oh thank goodness." Cos someone else needs to parasite off me to get attention? That's fine. I have less folks who wont even try to consider me or my feelings trying to gobble up my time. In a way, it's almost a mercy.

People have ideas about someone else in their head. Very often that idea is different from the reality, or the ideas that "someone" has about you. When you lash out & get mean or rude or bitter or entitled about controlling what someone else thinks about you, that's an easy way to make them not as excited to see you. That is what I wish others would understand. Also perhaps forgiveness, I promise spiraling about "oh no i did not impress the person i look up to, it's so over now!" isn't gonna help either.

Popularity doesn't change that I am just some bloke, same as you. I am no idol, please be normal. Speak with me as you would anyone. Would you suck the toes of your cashier at 7/11, you know? Relax. Take it easy oh my goodness

Be ye a big artist, or a small artist, the important thing is to remain human.

Popufur is something unusual... Some of them are nice and some of them are... It's complicated and i can't lie about that.

I think there's a lot of factors at play here: people envious of others' success, the internet making it too easy to speak your mind without fear of repercussions, chronically online people thinking that everyone on the internet is just there to entertain them, the unfounded sense of "ownership" we sometimes feel we have over anyone who's even a little famous than we are, bullies relying on you to be the "bigger person" and either not defend yourself or react in a way they know will get you in trouble... it's nothing new. As for feeling like you need to "play 4D chess" to get around it, I have a kind of "sticks and stones" perspective about it, in that yeah, it really sucks when strangers act like you owe them something, and you can't control what other people are going to think of you (or worse, the IDEA of you), but it's not like anyone's STOPPING you from doing this. As long as you have the desire to create and someone, anyone, is showing up for it, there's no shame in flat out ignoring the haters (unless you're a woman expressing your opinions in a YouTube video, apparently that's just asking to get doxed). It's like they say in Bluey, you have a cry about it, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and carry on. Because, again, who's stopping you?

I watched a video about Yoko Ono recently. One of the things it talked about was how she's endured 50+ years of bullying, mockery, misogyny and even death threats for something that was not only entirely trivial but which, by all accounts, she didn't even do, and not only has she never taken pity on herself for it, it's never stopped her from creating art. It probably affects her a little, even drives her to be more creative just to prove the nay-sayers wrong, but it's never caused her to stop creating. As I write this, she has an installation going on in New York right now. It made me think of my own insecurities as an artist and as a person, and how I've always been held back by my fears of what people MIGHT say if I expressed myself the way I wanted to, and I thought "If she can keep doing what she does in spite of all THAT, then what the hell do I have to be afraid of??"

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On that same token, I think a little humility is in order when it comes to people who WE think "deserve shit" for the things they've done. It's one thing to say there should be consequences for their actions, but if we feel that WE don't deserve to be harassed for the things WE'VE done, then we don't get to make that call about someone else. Don't throw out what you can't have sent back to you.

TL;DR, making someone, anyone else feel small doesn't really do anything, let alone stop them from doing the things someone is trying to make them feel small about.

yeah you summed it up well. I worked my fucking ass off to get where im at. I lost people because of that envy and it hurts deeply. But it also means in the end they werent worth keeping around if they cannot celebrate my achievments you know?

People just sometimes love to hang onto the past and still blame you for it. Terminally online people often do this. And yeah often times the negative voices are louder than the positive ones and try to pull you down. Often people have nothing to do.

And yeah it goes both way on respect. i gotta amit that i find it hard at times to respond but i read every comment i get and notes.

If whatever i said makes sense haha! you made some really good points

Thanks! Glad you liked what I wrote! :)

See, that's why I keep my gripes to myself.
I can't stop the thoughts sometimes, but that doesn't mean I need to *voice* them. I might be pissy that I can't afford an artist after they (rightfully) increase their prices, but I'm not going to put them on blast or rant or anything. If I don't like a 'sona change or an artstyle change or that an artist up and leaves for some reason...

Yeah, it sucks, but like...they're people too. They don't need random bs from internet strangers. They got enough already. And intrusive thoughts aren't harmful if you deal with them in the proper manner and don't *bug* people.

If yer like me and can't stop the thoughts, fine! Just...keep it to yourself. Write it in a (private) journal or grumble to yourself, or let yourself have an eyeroll or something. Just...don't actually put it out there.

I don't really consider myself to be a very big artist. But I have received some harassment and some threats of sexual abuse. And I have even gotten death threats from people that I try to avoid.. I don't understand people sometimes.

I try to be as nice as possible to people that follow me. And sometimes people that I have given my discord to, have made me feel very uncomfortable. That's why I am a lot more careful with who I'm open to. I still sometimes get guys that say "they're in love with me." Whatever that means. They have said I'm "a fat ugly bitch anyway", when I don't respond to their advances.

People scare me.. That's why I try to keep new followers at an arm's length.

It's really stupid that people get all bent out of shape when you don't have time or emotional energy to respond to them. I personally do get a little sad when my favorite artists don't notice me. But I don't turn it into a "traumatic experience" like some people do.

Artists are people too. They have their own messy lives that they have to deal with. It's not their job to be everyone's emotional therapist. Or supportive friend.

Artists have their own emotions. Their own stuff that they have to deal with. And they have their boundaries. And people NEED to learn to respect that.

Well said and the points u mentioned are fair!

We only have so much time on our hands so honestly being big it really does make sense to have to moderate who you spend that precious time on so much since inevitably you have to divide so much time up on so many ppl

i honestly not know if i am a larger artist, i been on years but honestly i get very llow attention, just happy draw and if people like what i draw then thats great feel connect people share same stuff/fandoms, just have nice time.

really kinda depends see person i guess, but i get stress from big artist with the attention be bit rollercoaster with people interactions and just be burned out social to talk to people at times.

even myself hard to get out my bubble to talk to new people, most days i am just social tired takes me soo long respond (problems Adhd im distracted/ hyper mind at times so im slow respond.)

i try make sure treat people same way i like to be and be more understanding in time medias is a overwhelming place keep up with art producing.