... I guess I consider a butterfly an insect that doesn't, can't, and shouldn't understand gender and whose own identity shouldn't be given a shit about? This kind of argument is never going to convince a transphobe, sorry. It won't. They're some of the most stringent biological realists and determinists, even if (and maybe very well because) that same realism renders them as relevant and important as (or, in the grand scheme, less than) that same butterfly.

Let me put it to you this way. I'm not a transphobe, but I'm a creature of near infinite capacity to hate, and very much enjoy being so. I wouldn't have survived my own upbringing otherwise. But I'm still relatively, phenotypically, human.

The kinds of people you're talking about, IMO, are an example of "human biodiversity." Transphobes and race realists would have you (and me) believe we're not all 99.9% genetically the same, or that if we are, it doesn't matter.

Decades of exposure to and victimization by various forms of prejudice, far more phenotypical (that is to say, "racial") than economic, has convinced me that both things are true. We are all genetically, mostly the same, and that it also does not matter. There are innate differences between different thinking and feeling animals (humanity is a construct I'm de-internalizing within myself, as it's irrelevant to the emerging social norm) that can not be resolved, because we do not want to resolve them.

In other words, you're basically like the guy trying to argue with the Flat-Earther that the earth is round. He actually knows, he just doesn't care. It's not about the truth, it's about him being him, and being as determined as hell to never be you.

In other words, transphobia is more or less a racial trait. The Great Ape before us, with its vastly, widely more varied gene set, manage to be more of a "one race" than us, and I'm tired of blaming the ape ancestor, the Neanderthal, etc. Increasingly, I'm tired of blaming the straight, cis and white.

Imbecile, is a race. Is it a gender? That, I guess I haven't put as much thought into.

I was actually hoping for a simple answer. 🤣

No offense, but that's exactly yours and everyone else's problem. Y'know, I can't believe I'm using the words of another Otherkin reject who became a White Nationalist (although that was pretty short-lived and he did disavow that a long time ago, so...) but he used to say, on his site, that he coded by hand (you had to know code just to get certain images to display right back then, basically!) his motto is "Evolve Or Be Lunch." Well, long story short, he didn't evolve enough, that site is gone, and now he's trying to sell his art on FB. Yeah, he was looking for simple answers, too... Y'know, when he was a Supremacist...

I'm not a supremacist, though. Just someone trying to navigate life through all these twisted issues plaguing the world.

Hey, at least you're not like the assholes who doxxed my gf and then turned around and tried to befriend me after when I threatened to sue the whole ass site just to get back at them. See? Isn't it all for the best that "cooler heads" prevailed, like, how Deo never sued the site into the ground (which she might've been well within her right to threaten for all I know or care!) the one or two times she did over forum bans? I'd glad you and I can seemingly get along, even in such a degenerate online. How long you been around, anyway? Don't think I asked that, yet! If you're newer, holy, you're like someone out of a nuclear bomb shelter in this stankin' bitch! LOL

Been on this site for 3 and a half years going on four. I'm just trying to navigate life while standing up for what's right. This is a world saturated with good vs evil.

Yeah, I respect and admire that. I just don't get how or, at this point, why one does that on this fringe site. That's what it is. It's yesterday's news in the fandom. Our best convos, essays, stories, and even art or adopting AI at this point would save it. The leader is gone, the new begga's in charge, ain't the head Dragon in charge and I'm sorry, as absent as he was, he was somehow, the glue that held this place together. Did he not give me Red Savage in a way? You, more recently, even posthumously? And dozens of others. Not to mention all the other frequent commenters who I still liked having around, even if we weren't friends.

I think we all just need to figure out where we're going to go from here, on here, and beyond here when the lights go off... But stay the fuck away from DA unless you want something worse than FA. And AI slop hellhole gets away with barely-not CSAM, and you don't get away with posting any porn at all if you're not a paying customer or an AI bot account.

That needs to be a fucking crime, all 3 things. The porn, any variant of it, the classist online segregation, and the AI having any authority, moderation-wise over any human. In some ways, it's why I want a kind of enforced age-segregation online. So kids can be kids, away from dangerous adults, or any adult influence, have their playground back like when it was ours once. And we can grow up with the internet, and on it, as it grows into something new, without literal kids being given ops over literal seniors oftentimes.

That last one has always been a problem online. It must stop. I never, never practiced the kind of online elder abuse I see now, comparisons to old Hanks and Peggy Hills be damned!