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Suno AI (and Why it Sucks)
2 months ago
I subscribed to Suno AI (an AI Music Making software) for one month, and it sucks.
As a composer, I give it 2/10 stars, because despite following the advice of "veteran" users of AI on Reddit, I cannot get a single generated result that satisfies me. Some say I'm being a perfectionist, but no, I find Suno AI to be bland and highly unoriginal (on the same level as AI furry slop that's only good for quick fap sessions and nothing more).
Suno AI loves cranking up the distortion filter too high, and its instrument choices are always so generic (even typing "Muted Electric Guitar" or "Violin Solo Col Legno" prompt doesn't do anything). The website is also very anal about certain words and blacklists anything that could even be remotely adult related (e.g. it will flag lyrics containing the word "shit" and therefore not generate).
Also, every single generation uses 4/4, 2/2 or 2/4 time (i.e. duple metre). Suno AI (and other music AI software like Udio) cannot produce music on time signatures of 9/8, 5/4 or 9/16 because there is not enough data to statistically realise music in these metres (they exist, but they constitute too small of a % of all music composed for Suno AI devs to delve into).
Finally, Suno AI cannot improvise music. No amount of AI music can realise improvisation. For instance, live jazz bands actively delegate one of their players to solo on a cue, and no two performances are the same. The drummer may also slightly deviate in rhythm, or even change metres on the fly. Sometimes the soloists will perform hemiola (i.e. 3:2 ratio music) and polyrhythms (like 3/2 and 4/4 times simultaneously). This is something AI cannot create or do because it is unable to create new "data" within the realm of improvisation. And don't get me started on Figured Bass (classical musicians will know what I'm talking about), and Indian raga music (which relies on a completely different set of musical theory different from Western Musical traditions which Suno AI is built upon).
The only silver lining with Suno AI is if you are trying to generate forgettable royalty-free background music.
P.S. Suno AI CEO Mikey Shulman once said in an interview a couple months ago that music making "is not fun" for most people. Screw him!
As a composer, I give it 2/10 stars, because despite following the advice of "veteran" users of AI on Reddit, I cannot get a single generated result that satisfies me. Some say I'm being a perfectionist, but no, I find Suno AI to be bland and highly unoriginal (on the same level as AI furry slop that's only good for quick fap sessions and nothing more).
Suno AI loves cranking up the distortion filter too high, and its instrument choices are always so generic (even typing "Muted Electric Guitar" or "Violin Solo Col Legno" prompt doesn't do anything). The website is also very anal about certain words and blacklists anything that could even be remotely adult related (e.g. it will flag lyrics containing the word "shit" and therefore not generate).
Also, every single generation uses 4/4, 2/2 or 2/4 time (i.e. duple metre). Suno AI (and other music AI software like Udio) cannot produce music on time signatures of 9/8, 5/4 or 9/16 because there is not enough data to statistically realise music in these metres (they exist, but they constitute too small of a % of all music composed for Suno AI devs to delve into).
Finally, Suno AI cannot improvise music. No amount of AI music can realise improvisation. For instance, live jazz bands actively delegate one of their players to solo on a cue, and no two performances are the same. The drummer may also slightly deviate in rhythm, or even change metres on the fly. Sometimes the soloists will perform hemiola (i.e. 3:2 ratio music) and polyrhythms (like 3/2 and 4/4 times simultaneously). This is something AI cannot create or do because it is unable to create new "data" within the realm of improvisation. And don't get me started on Figured Bass (classical musicians will know what I'm talking about), and Indian raga music (which relies on a completely different set of musical theory different from Western Musical traditions which Suno AI is built upon).
The only silver lining with Suno AI is if you are trying to generate forgettable royalty-free background music.
P.S. Suno AI CEO Mikey Shulman once said in an interview a couple months ago that music making "is not fun" for most people. Screw him!
TBH, the only real thing that will probably make me return to Suno AI is if they remove their swear-word filters so I can make low quality porn/meme music. Again, the only silver lining i see in AI image/audio generation is for low quality memes and quick fap material
griftersCEOsAnother thing AI won't be able to achieve is Medieval European music. RPG-style fantasy games today use "faux-Medievial" tunes which are just modern realisations of what is actually supposed to be very improvised, unwritten music. AI Music companies are largely trained on this. So when one types "authentic medieval music" into Suno AI, you end up getting a very 2000s style Celtic pop rendition with "plucky string instruments" and some "epic recorder solo". A real 15th century merchant in Venice will think this music is totally alien to him.
Basically, even with every possible data available, AI will never be able to replicate music written before the age of audio recording. As long humans do not have real recordings or data on what (say) Ancient Egyptian Music sounds like, AI won't ever themselves.
If you are interested in this topic about how we figure out what music sounds like before the age of recording, type: Historically Informed Performance here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo.....ed_performance