Kill the damn dog
16 years ago
It's been a hard day, emotionally, and this did not help.
I've never in my life wanted to punch a dog in the face in a fit of rage so badly.
I don't like little dogs in the first place. Whiny yappy scratching at the door all the time little toy breeds are gross to me.
When the little dog jumped up on the desk where I had a nearly finished commission and trampled it while smearing mud and piss all over it, I had one of those moments of shaking rage. I wanted to shred the art, which would have been stupid because I would not have been able retrace the image. I wanted to punch the little dog in the face. The little shit didn't know it was fucking up my art. I dislike her anyway for more than my simple prejudice against little dogs. Art on desks is supposed to be safe from muddy dogs. Auuughhh.
So instead I'm gonna whine about it on a public art journal, fume about it for a while, and start over. Now where is my tracing paper...
I've never in my life wanted to punch a dog in the face in a fit of rage so badly.
I don't like little dogs in the first place. Whiny yappy scratching at the door all the time little toy breeds are gross to me.
When the little dog jumped up on the desk where I had a nearly finished commission and trampled it while smearing mud and piss all over it, I had one of those moments of shaking rage. I wanted to shred the art, which would have been stupid because I would not have been able retrace the image. I wanted to punch the little dog in the face. The little shit didn't know it was fucking up my art. I dislike her anyway for more than my simple prejudice against little dogs. Art on desks is supposed to be safe from muddy dogs. Auuughhh.
So instead I'm gonna whine about it on a public art journal, fume about it for a while, and start over. Now where is my tracing paper...
FA+

I assume it's not your dog, it's your folks?
I dislike little dogs so much I don't have one.
We still don't fully understand dogs, and new things are coming to light every day. Keeping up with what's being revealed as right or wrong is part of being a good animal owner.
It may not be called "alpha" but you do have to be the boss of your animal, call it whatever you want. And its not always the case that alpha wolves are moms and dads 100% of the time. I know plenty of times its siblings fighting one another for dominance over one another too as well as wolves that aren't 100% related.
Call it what you want dominance is dominance and respect is respect. Dogs and wolves both have a universal language to show how much respect they have for you regardless of "alpha" or not.
My mom has 5 chihuahuas. I know the feeling of wanting to field goal punt them. :c
They all annoy me and piss me off easily, but I do like welsh corgi's, they're okay for a small dog
Most people think Dachshunds should look like round sausages without curves ect.
I hate all this mini and micro breed stuff. It just confuses me. I just got a new dog recently and we thought she was a puppy and that she would get bigger but it turned out she's just a chihuahua and that that's the size chihuahua's are supposed to be.
She's the biggest chihuahua I've ever seen in my life. Good dog though. She's not a snooty, vicious little bitch like all the other chihuahua's I've met.
It's ignorant for that person to have called my dog overweight without having even ever seeing her. She's in perfect shape. I keep an eye on her weight. =\
Not EVERY Dachshund is a miniature Dachshund. e_e
1 hundred years ago half these dogs didn't look like they do today, and I wouldn't call it an improvement.
Especially with today's current German Shepherds. Not because of size. But because they are bastardizing their hips.
That 'stance' they find so appealing really isn't the best thing for the dog. 8|
But whatever, I am getting too ranty...sorry. XD
And don't even start me on designer dog breeds and poorly bred "teacup" things. Rrrrrf.
/vet student bitchfest
But yeah, I watched this special not too long ago on the horrible breeding many legit breeders do....it's sickening.
I love my Dachshund, of course, but she definitely doesn't look like a Doxie did way back when...
Keep in mind not EVERY Dachshund is a miniature Dachshund. There are Standard Dachshunds and Miniature Dachshunds and then a less popular size in between.
My girl is in perfect shape and is kept on a strict diet.
Thank you very much.
She is kept on a strict diet, fed no table scraps and eats a very good brand of food.
Her body is just bigger, not due to fat.
I could show you pictures, and trust me, she's not a lardo.
But no, my dog runs around and plays hard with a full grown St.Bernard, so she's definitely fit.
ughh...little purse poopers...I hate how they think they're big shit until the big dog walks over to them and they yelp and run away. It's almost as if they realize that the big dog's going to sit on them if they continue being so moronic.
That'd make my day...seeing some big ass dog sit on some chihuahua (as long as it's not injured or anything like that...)
The next time it does something like that, give it a good pop somewhere. ._.
The thing's got a constant HURRfaec doesn't it.
The worst is when the people laugh about it. Especially when they do bite and rip your pants. It happend once and i stood on the leash so the dog was squashed face down to the ground demanding compensation for new pants. That women started screaming at the that it was my own fault, all i needed to do was grab my phone and saying i could also just call the police.
Everything under 40cm height cant be called a dog tho.
I don't dislike all small dogs, just the badly behaved ones. If I ever get to talk to a dog expert I'm gonna ask 'em what is it about dogs that the smaller they get, the bigger their ego is.
annoying as shit, the fucking dogs too small to pop out one of the pups, and they had to drag my ass along, interrupting three RP's all at least two hours into em, and a important convo with my mate >-( . . . . . fuck small dogs
shes fine, had one pup died but three healthy.
but i havent slept in the last . . .36 hour because of that dog O.o
Big dog poorly trained is just as annoying as a small dog, just happens to be more small dogs get away with it. :\
Animals are animals. Little dogs yap, big dogs have big pees and poos, cats spray, birds screech. They bring all sorts of emotions out of us, be it negative or positive.
I dunno, I feel for Vantid, but all the small dog hate in the comments are just ridiculous.
I very much dislike all this little dog hate going on in this thread.
My family has a little dachshund and she may be a diva but she knows right from wrong and is relatively well behaved. I'd be afraid to let alot of the people in this thread around her because they seem very angry towards them just for their size....
yes, THIS.
SO MUCH THIS.
Badly trained dogs are almost always the fault of the owner, not simply the breed.
That said, sorry Vantid...dealing with someone elses poorly trained anything is a pain in the ass. I say toss it in the owners bed, still covered in mud, but I'm guessing they wouldn't care.
"Anything that bounces when it barks, NOT a dog."
and by bark im sure he meant YAP. Ugh.
It's messing with your livelihood. Not something to be toyed with by an animal that's not yours.
In the meantime, may I suggest baby gates? >3 Shut the sucker in the kitchen.
I am also a guest here, so I am not in a place to make such requests. I will be careful from now on.
Now I can understand that dogs can get so deformed "naturally" too... strays are usually crossbreeds that tend to be like that, but these are pureblood races that people are so damn proud of... THAT just makes me sick. Beying proud of something so... wrong.
If I could have a dog... I'd want a big one... I realise that would mean a lot more work in lookign after it... but at least it's a real dog... not some inbread mutant crossbreed.
Oh well... enough rambelings... sorry for your work... must have been quite anoying, hope you can salvage it! Best of wishes...
(digging/barking/snapping/etc), and sometimes you just can't train breeding out of a dog. You can take preventitive measures, but instinct will always take over.
Most dog breeds still alive today are truly the result of breeding by humans, mostly for reasons of hunting/guardianship/occasionally purely for companionship. I truly think breeding of small types like the boston terrier, the chihuahua, the pug and the shih tzu is plain and simple cruelty because of the high rates of respiratory problems and heart murmurs, all BECAUSE of their breeding (and in many cases, inbreeding). It's nice to have a cute little pedigree pal that you can carry with you everywhere, but if you don't take extra special care of it, it will have a much shorter lifespan that it's meant to. That's usually not the case with larger breeds.
The one major truth here is that small dogs get a bad reputation for being misbehaved because, as you said, a small poorly behaved dog and a large poorly behaved dog are very different things. A small dog jumping on you is 'meh' while a bigger dog can knock you right off your ass.
It is not about the size, it's about the training. If you do not train your dog, it will be obnoxious, big or small. EVERY dog needs to be trained, EVERY dog is a big responsibility. People who pick small dogs usually pick them because of the spaces they live in, or because they just plain like them. They can be just as destructive as large dogs, and I can assure you, they hurt just as much when bitten by them. It's not easier by any means.
And you do realise large dogs have a large amount of health problems as well, right? This isn't a small dog issue, it's an every dog issue. Huskies, Rottweiler, even Retrievers have quite of list of health problems they could have. (could being the key word) Big isn't better.
Also, Dachshunds were bread to go into tunnels and flush out badgers. That is why they look like they do, not to please some weird sense of aesthetics. Most funny looking dogs have been bred to look a certain way for the jobs they do for hundreds of years.
Weiners were bred so small like that so they could run into fox and badger holes and fight the fuckers to the death.
When was the last time you killed a badger?
1- Dogs aren't meant to be jumping up on the desk
2- little dogs can be cute, but they're mostly just annoying, yappy little shitheads.
big dogs ftw indeed.
AND WELL TRAINED DOGS FTW D8<
I understand you're upset, but small dogs aren't to blame due to one dog screwing something up for you.
Plenty of my art has been destroyed by the drool of a HUGE St.Bernard, but I still love him and big dogs. *Shrug*
Not trying to get on your case here, juuuust speakin' my mind.
Blame the individual dogs, not their size, breed, gender or anything. Just the particuluar dog.
Now I will be off, as I am not trying to start anything up.
But it's always a case by case thing. The king charles spaniel that is in this same household is annoying, but I ignore her. The chihuahua mix is chill, I like her. My big 80 lb mutt that I used to own ruined heap plenty of my artwork.
The animal that ruined my work has ticked me off several times before.
I'd take any dog so long as it's got a good personality. Even certain breeds I am not crazy about. Like Schnauzers and Chihuahuas.
I was always a big dog person. Always, but where I live, I can't have a big dog. It's too small a house and just wouldn't be fair.
We got my current dog, a Dachshund, and she's just about the sweetest thing ever. She has a few quirks sure, but what dog doesn't?
My best friend has two chihuahuas. Very quiet and well mannered. Cuddle butts who are easily excited, yes, but they don't bite enough to hurt or be annoying (little play nips when you get rowdy with them), they don't bark, and you'd melt when you saw them.
Sure, there are a lot of annoying little dogs, but not all of them have a hyper, biting or nipping streak in them.
I suggest training it to stay off the desk, or if the desk is high enough, don't provide an environment where it can jump onto your work :) And if you work in a room you can keep the dog out of, might I recommend a baby gate in the doorway?
It's one of those situations where it's hard to explain. I am normally in a separate building and the art never goes in. However today i went straight in to make dinner and I set my work on the desk...which is supposed to be safe from a dog.
I am also a guest here, so I am not in a place to make such requests. I will be careful from now on.
And on the subject of 'big' dogs, its sad that more isn't being done on a breeding front to isolate and eliminate weak hips and other similar problems in several large dog breeds. Its like, from the breeding end, we don't care about the quality of life past about five years old =-.-= Its frustrating. There are flaws in the genes, we CAN work them out slowly, carefully, we just refuse to. All in all, two few 'humans' <has to resist spitting the word> care enough about the quality of life of anyone but themselves, animals least of all... to be concerned with genetics, and what exactly it is that we are doing to these wonderful creatures!
Do you know that boston terriers all must be born by c-section? Their heads are too large at birth for natural birthing. Again, human tampering.... *growls*... we have gone too far, with too many breeds... and I for one believe the human race will have to answer for it someday.
My 2c... and sorry for the rant.
But alot of big dogs are also breed to make us 'look good' nowadays. Take the pit bull for example, most people don't know how to own this dog, they get one to make themselves look tough and for nothing more. Or people that get a doberman and then crop its ears and tail, they are not doing it for why it was originally done (for hunting purposes) but because it 'looks good' And when 101 dalmatians came out in the 60s it gave huge attention to the breed and people bought lots of them because they looked good and not for the right reasons.
I know you want to rant but its very unfair to kick a small dog just because its small, all dogs are related to the wolf whether you like it or not, from chihuahua to great danes and irish wolfhounds. Its something we humans have created and not for the purpose of 'looking good' but for practical reasons and above all companionship.
I can see you have obvious contempt for your own species but I highly doubt our breeding of dogs is such a huge sin that one day we will pay for it.
That is all.
(In fairness, it was throw something at the cat to make her stop chewing plugged in wires as neither me or my bf could get to her quick enough or .....a fried kitty)
Also I have noticed that as soon as you see your cat doing something you don't want (our cat has always pulled out her own fur obsessively) that if you look directly at them and use the same short phrase with an authoritative tone each time, loud enough to startle them out of it but not so loud it will make them run away, they will eventually get what you are trying to say.
If you watch two cats having a dispute its all about the eye contact and most of the time who can "yell" the loudest so to speak. Usually the cat with the loudest deepest growl/yowl will get heard.
But that's just me.
As a freaking amateur dog trainer in less than 30 minutes while talking to my relatives I taught their dog to not rush into the kitchen, it was a huge dog.
I don't "hate" little dogs, I simply don't have them and let them for people with patience...
I hate this situation.
Having work (anything) ruined by (something) and may hate more or less this thing...
I have had art ruined by someone who picked it with their wet hands to write a phone number on it.
It's an ignorant animal.
It stepped on something it shouldn't have.
Re: Vantid, however..
I can definitely sympathize. :/ I've had my share of moments like that, where a new foster does something effing INFURIATING... but I don't catch it in time or have to remind myself that it's just a dumb animal that I haven't taught how to not infuriate me yet. :|
I have a little dog and she's well-behaved, doesn't jump up on anything except the couch or the coffee table - because she gets hot in the summer and the glass is always cool and she loves to snuggle on the pillows. I have more trouble handling my brother's lab because he's very clumsy and thinks he's a lap dog and likes to give people "hugs."
And god-forbid anyone DOES punch or fling a dog against a wall anywhere near me. Body bags will be involved, rest assured. >_>
2. You're claiming you would murder one living being for striking another. That's kinda stupid. Actually it's a lot stupid.
But then, I've already commented here about hyperbole. Just wondered if you had any idea what you were saying there. Since that isn't the case by your admission....
/point
/laugh
There are three things I would kill an asshole for doing, without reservation:
1) Harming my family
2) Harming my fiance
3) Harming an animal
Someone who would do any of these things isn't even worthy of being able to plead their case in a court of law, from where I stand, but I tend to think that a lot of laws are bullshit for a lot of personal reasons I doubt you're interested in hearing.
I'm well aware that humans are primates, members of the animal kingdom, and that doesn't do much to endear them to me, given everything they've capable of. Again, these are my opinions based on previous experiences which, again, I'm fairly sure you don't give much of a damn about hearing.
I'm not going to further hijack Vantid's journal post and neither should you. If you care enough about the issue to want to discuss/debate this like two mature adults, feel free to note me. Otherwise, I think we're done having this discussion and I'm sorry you feel that the only way to get your point across over the "anonymous interwebz" is to engage in troll-like behaviors.
Have a nice afternoon.
But don't feel too bad! You'll grow out of this adolescent "internet tough guy" phase someday, and develop the maturity to realise that criticism and trolling are not the same thing. –Or, if you're really the "big tough man" you want these furries to believe you are, you'll become a serial killer. That's cool too I guess.
In the meantime? Please. Really. Please. Do not insult our collective intelligence by pretending anyone believes you'd literally kill someone for kicking a dog.
And the only ones trying to be "tough guys" here are the ones saying they'd "make slippers out of" or "punt across the room" or otherwise threaten a naive little dog who doesn't understand he/she is getting in the way, doesn't realize it's ruining something. Yeah, it takes a REALLY big person to make threats like that against a being one tenth your size, huh?
And no, you're prolly right, I wouldn't outright KILL them. But you can sure as shit bet that I'd at least break a few fingers. Raising your hand against a creature that can't defend itself, nor realizes that it's done anything wrong? That's barbaric and cruel. Even an internet troll like YOU has to agree with that much.
And some facts for you, even though I doubt you'll care. I'm a 24 year old female collage student, not this pre-adolescent testosterone factory you seem inclined to think I am. I know perfectly well what cause and effect are and I also have beliefs that I vehemently stand by; anyone who would abuse the weak deserves to be punished.
Unlike these other people trying to garner favor by spewing hateful words about harming animals, I'm not trying to "prove" anything. You're inclined to believe or disbelieve whatever you want about my beliefs, my intentions, and my moral code. I don't know you, and you certainly don't know me. But DON'T make any assumptions, as I have made none against you.
Now, jumping up on a desk where it's not supposed to be? Swat and remove if caught in the act. If not caught, glare at dog, count to ten, whine about it.
Start over on the work.
I hate them, but i'm always nice to them and I pet them, they don't deserve it :(
Sorry to hear about your art being f'd up.
cats are awesome
Our cat has knocked over drinks, papers and more whilst waltzing across our desks, on TOP of the excessive amount of shed fur. Oh well, what can you do.
Hehe :)
Honestly, it's all about the training. I had a Shi Tzu until recently, and while yappy, she wasn't an obnoxious ankle biter. But then, she was always in a house with bigger dogs and had no misconceptions about her tiny, stompable size.
To be honest, striking any pet is a major No-No in my book. Showing the self control in the face of blind rage is a good thing, but a warning...
... My advice is to keep the studio door shut if this happened at home
nuff said.
mind you i don't really know the weight class of the "toy dog"
but wouldn't a toy dog of that weight be the jabba-the-hut of dogs?
a 40 pound chiwawa? Wow.
my corgi begs to differ :p
dumbass.
oh my lord, a lot of the comments here are downright disgusting!
i'm more than a little concerned about some FA dwellers now. thank the lord none of you will ever be around my (medium sized and well behaved) dog! jesus christ, how vile. i really hope some of you are being internet tough guys and wouldn't REALLY PUNT AN EFFING DOG.
that having been said, the only dog that ever bit me in 10 years of HS/kennel/vet tech work was a small dog. one has to have extra patience with those. and it sounds like that little monster has worn yours thin, Vannie. i'm sorry that happened to you
just crawling up the OP's ass i'd wager.
MAYBE NOW WE CAN BE FUR-IENDS
It sucks to redo an image :[ I hope you got a good restart on it.
Joking aside, I'm sorry the dog wrecked your artwork :( Like all animals I think how the animal acts is related to how it is trained. Sadly since Small dogs are so easily left to their own devices because they dont really seem like they need 'dog' training or attention or are thought of as 'human', They take on traits that can cause angst, frustration and anger from family and friends of their owners.
You should take a picture of the muddy picture and put it here. Sometime in the far, distant future, you'll be able to look at it and chuckle. c:
I've met little dogs before that're little monsters, but I think it's all in the training. People with little dogs are less likely to go forward with all the training that they'll do for their larger dog. If a small dog snarls, begs, jumps on you, etc it's cute whereas larger dogs are taught not to do those things.
Either way, though, it sucks he decided your art should be doormat. x_x
It kind of hurts me when I see little dogs like that, because I know deep down they could have been great dogs if only the owners had more responsibility and put more time into properly training their dog. People are dumb, that's all I can really say after all this. Smaller doesn't mean easier, and people need to stop thinking that.
My cats have knocked over stuff onto my artwork before. It's not like they know what they're doing is wrong. Animals are animals. It sucks, and I've screamed and cried. Bleh, I feel for you, I do.
I hope some of the posters here understand the huge, huge difference between 'wanted to punch' and 'would have punched/would punch/did punch'.
I don't think people get what it means to re-address anger into a harmless vent made up of text on a screen INSTEAD of unleashing anger into a physical act.
For goodness sakes.
You're right. Harmless venting =/= call to action!
People on the internet sure do like to lecture. I could seem very well-informed and talk about how people tend to discipline small dogs less consistently therefore leading to them being psychotic little shits, but I somehow don't think your small dog rage had anything to do with ignorance.
Don't you know, you need to write a disclaimer for everything you say on the internet or people are going to jump all over the opportunity to be contrary!
I do feel a bit of an uncomfortable twinge inside when people talk about throwing small dogs or anything though, since people actually do. You see an awful lot of chi and chi mixes in rescues with screwed up legs that never got treated- moreso than you'd ever see with large breeds. But still, I think it really should be kind of self-evident you're an animal lover and wouldn't do that, regardless of what emotions make one say :\
i hope to god you don't own any animals, you sick fucker
Sorry for sounding so horrible D: I'm not the biggest fan of toy breeds.
Yeh, it's actually shocking to see it firsthand IRL. Like, "woah shit did that just happen??"
good luck restarting!
{quote]Great Danes can die from torsion, as can greyhounds, because of their body shape.[/quote]
Actually it's not really the whole body shape, it is because they have a deep narrow chest. Any dog that has a deep chest can get bloat, ie great danes, standard poodles, german shepherds, rotties, irish wolfhounds, etc.
And on the subject of 'big' dogs, its sad that more isn't being done on a breeding front to isolate and eliminate weak hips and other similar problems in several large dog breeds. Its like, from the breeding end, we don't care about the quality of life past about five years old =-.-= Its frustrating. There are flaws in the genes, we CAN work them out slowly, carefully, we just refuse to. All in all, two few 'humans' <has to resist spitting the word> care enough about the quality of life of anyone but themselves, animals least of all... to be concerned with genetics, and what exactly it is that we are doing to these wonderful creatures!
There are MANY breeders who are working, to strive for a better generation from the first. Bad hips is genetic but there are many breeders working to get this out of many breeds. The only "breeders" you are apparently focusing on are the backyard breeders, puppy mills, etc, you are not looking at the thousands of reputable breeders out there that test for health problems, get titles in many sports, and look at many pedigrees/dogs to decide which dog/bitch is right for their dog/bitch for years sometimes before even breeding. It's not easy to become a breeder who breeds to better the breed but with time, and effort each line they produce can become better then the previous one. It takes true dedication.
1- Dogs aren't meant to be jumping up on the desk
2- little dogs can be cute, but they're mostly just annoying, yappy little shitheads.
1. Then train the dog not to jump on the desk
2. Then train the dog, dogs are born calm/submissive but the problems you see today are caused by PEOPLE, it's never a dogs fault.
[quote]I tend to just call any canine under 20 pounds a fake dog. They don't look like a dog or act like a dog, and certainly don't have a dog's redeeming traits. I don't know what they are, but it's sure not man's best friend.
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Then I call all furries fake people with mental issues..... Get my point?
Small dogs ARE dogs, they are just smaller. Sure not every small breed has a purpose but a lot of toy dogs did have a purpose at one time. Terriers were bred to either hunt, dig into underground passageways after animals, or to fight. Many people today can't handle the terriers tenacity, the stubborness they have so they don't bother to train them, they should get another breed or learn to train their dog.
Most "pet" owners are dumb... They have no clue how a dog thinks or to even train a simple command. Dogs need exercise EVERYDAY. Not to the car or down the block, they need good exercise, yes even small breeds need exercise. If people would just exercise their dogs, give them rules, and train them, we wouldn't have any misbehaving dogs. IT'S ALWAYS THE OWNERS FAULT.
And ya can't romp and wrestle with them like a Lab or other bigger breed.
I thought you people were supposed to like animals!
A dog is a dog no matter what it looks like. Not every canine is going to look like a lab or retriever or shepherd or wolf-dog of some kind. And not everyone wants a big dog in the house. Some people might just want small to medium-sized dogs like pugs or Bichons or cocker spaniels or Jack Russels or beagles.
Look, I KNOW a dog is a dog is a dog. That's what you're trying to get at. But in my OPINION, I don't consider them dogs. Get it? It makes sense to me, okay. :C
We have this bugg that uses the kitchen floor as a bathroom instead of the paper. You come along while shes near it and she takes off so she doesn't get in trouble. WTF!!!
What it is: "I'm unhappy and this is how I am showing you because it's the only way I know to express that."
What it isn't: "I'm doing this to hurt/anger you because of what you did to me earlier."
Sorry, should've been more precise.
Like one in a hundred might be cute and friendly because it was raised nice, but most are owned by old people who just train them to have the same world hating cynical view about everything that the owner does... Well, that may be a generalization.
In this case, its just one of those "fffff no respect" moments c..c
For those going "ZOMG small dog hate makes baby Jesus cry":
I very intensely dislike small dogs. Most of us who do have a variety of reasons, not just arbitrary dickishness; and saying "Goddamn I hate little yapdogs" does not make someone a puppy-mangling monster. Those saying they'd have thrown the dog against the wall are in all likelihood no more serious than the people saying they'd literally murder someone for hitting a dog. It's called hyperbole. It's not an uncommon element in our language.
Tell you what. I'll respect the fact that you like small dogs if you respect the fact that I don't. Simple, yes?