if youre form the usa and use $ to pay all its alirght xD if youre from EU and still take $ for comissions its actually a big lost x3; thats what I have to say XD

But it has not been like this all the time. And customers from the EU hiring american artists usually have some advantages because of the currency exchange x3

yes they have but if youre an artist it just sucks xD; cause if you really take euro=$ you get a lot "buhuuu to expensive drama drama" comments x3;;;

Lineart 25USD
Color without background 50USD
Color with background 75USD and up (depending on complexity)


The sketch requires me about an hour
Inking about an hour
Coloring from three to five hours

Choosing where to place my name in the picture, 1 hour XD;

If this is accurate, then... you're getting $25 for two hours of your work when you're hired to draw lineart, and $50 for 5 to 7 hours...

Do you think it's a fair price, do you think you're underpayed, or would you raise your costs if there were customers able to pay for your art in those standards ;3

BTW, I also have a hard time signing things... I understand your pain xD;;;;

Usually I count about 10 USD every hour of work, that in euros is something like 8 euros, and this is what I get in the office where I work during the day (I work for an Architect).
And believe me, I'M WAY UNDERPAID.

Some months ago, I shown my pictures at a couple of pro illustrators, and tyhey told me I shoudl charge my pictures at least 150 USD each.
But thing is, there aren't customers able to pay for my art in those standards, partially because they're broke, partially because they're lazy, partially because of the people who get paid 10 USD for a picture that ruined the market.

And signing a picture, IT'S THE MOST DIFFICULT THING!

I also think art around is really underpaid, but as you well pointed, it's because of the market we're involved into :3 And also because many of the potential customers are really young, or still students without a job, or people with low incomes x3;;; I'd not think the people charging $10 for a picture are the ones we should blame to, after all they're also trying, they are still starting, and their quality is usually so different to the more-professional commissioned people around, they are not taking your spot in the market, don't you think? ^^

I know the difference of quality between us and the "10 dollars artists", and I know I can't blame them. What it makes me angry is people who prefer having a 10 dollar picture bad depicted, rather than saving some money for something better. I mean... there are some 10 dollars pictures that are very horrible, and people paid for that!

I once wanted so badly a commission by a great artist (JayAxer) I spend a couple of months saving my money for it. When I had the right ammount of money and knocked on his door, he replied he didn't take commissions anymore xD I was late, lol

Haha. X3 I don't think people often calculate how many hours it takes to do the art they're commissioned for. (: That's more like a company thing, where they have to spend you for the time you're working for someone.
As for artists, I think they usually go by how much the materials cost to use, and what they're time's worth. I talked to a friend about digital work in that regard, and he said it's for electricity.

I think most artists on here charge between $5-$35 for art - usually like sketches $5-10, lineart $10-20, color $15-35. And if people are really detailed or want you to draw multiple characters, adding $5-$10 is normal too.
That's about what I do too.
Some artists that are in demand a looooooooooot, the really popular ones, seems to do it at like $90 or $100. X3 When you're really popular and people want your work, you gotta be selective, and it goes to whoever is willing to pay the most for it.

So the least I get for colored work, and a good starting point, is $15-$20. I also make hats for about that much too, unless they want extra accessories or lots of color - you gotta keep shipping in mind too. :B

I'm blah-ing a lot. You're more of a popular artist, and some of your friends are too, so you can probably make your prices way higher than I mentioned.

but I forgot to mention time! I spend a few days on a picture, usually. I'm probably slower because I send so many status updates of the picture, and show how it's coming up with every major step, so they know what they're getting in the end. :B

That's also one of the points I wanted to comment: The more popular an artist is, the more he can charge for their art. That's something we all can see here. But... how did that artist become popular? Maybe we just don't remember when that same person was selling their art also for the low cost non-popular artists charge nowadays.... :3

Besides, I guess the more professional an artist is, the more care they put on their art, and the better product you're paying for. Not to mention they surely goal to do art for a living....

Hehe, I actually did a research paper about this sorta thing and talked to different artists about commissions. :3 I don't think most people can start out making a lot. X3 I think it's most likely that they start at an average price, and once their work gets out there, and they become popular, they can up the price and people are still willing to see something in their style. (: Then it goes up and up, especially if it's their career or anything. Only one guy I talked to is close to living off of it - but it's because he has a porn site thing people pay monthly for to have access to.

I think the more commissions you get, you learn more about making things big enough to print, and all the sorta things people want. :3 I'm not sure how much more professionals know than an average artist, but it's all interesting. :3

Well when a friend of mine takes in commissions, she just charges in USD. Mostly it's issued over PayPal which automatically calculates the other currencies if needed.
She charges according to what's asked from her. Is it a sketch or refinded lineart? Is it shaded, coloured or even painted? How many characters are involved in doing WHAT? What kind of background is there?
The range usually goes from 25$ - 80$ or so.
Whole coloured comic pages are of course more expensive because they take more time to finish.

We recently started a commissioning game too which makes it more fun and cheaper for every single participant involved. I won't link to it here as I don't wanna "spam" your thread here ^^ (But if you wanna know you can of course just ask me vie PM or so )

*huugs*
Dukey

Then, just to learn more about it, PM the link so I will be able to take a look :)

So, that friend of you, how does she calculate how much to charge? Because of the complexity of the pic? Because of the time she will spend with it? Or because of the skills she will need to use? Does she use some kind of table, or does she just guess the amount? And do you think she does right or wrong?

Well she has a small table that reigns in the general stuff. If things differ from what she usually does she has to improvise on the prices of course but that works out pretty well usually.

The thing with art over the web is that of course you want your "work time" paid, but you can't really charge it of like an hourly fee. So most people have fixed prices.
Also while the work and effort behind it usually would justify much higher prices, you'd also need a clientel that is ABLE and WILLING to pay whatever amount you're charging.
So taking too high fees will most probably grant you more money at a time but much less people would even be able to commission you which in the end might equal to less income.

It's not an easy thing to evaluate, and everybody needs to ease into it, testing things out to a point they're happy with the outcome.

I'll PM you in a sec with the details of our commission game.

Cheers

Then, what would you choose if you were in your friend's shoes: To get 4 commissions $25 each, or 1 commission $100 worth? :3

Actually I'd rather have more of the smaller ones for the beginning as it raises the general propability of getting commissions at all.
Later at a point where you can't hide from rabid fanboys/girls I'd slowly raise my charges to "filter" out the people that are seriously interested in my art and willing/able to pay a fair amount of money for it.

After all you need to take into consideration your working speed and "flow". If you get either done with your commissions pretty fast or get into a flow state where the ordeal might take longer but feels pretty effortless due to you being in "the zone" you might ease up on the price other than when the picture was a royal pain in the butt that took hours and didn't make you happy at all.

While I haven't taken a commission before, I have been seriously considering opening for them. My wallet would certainly appreciate it after AnthroCon left it looking like an old Spaghetti Western, tumbleweed and all. <u>


I'd easily do a static icon commission for $5 USD, or animated for $10 USD (unless the icons have a base form, in which case I'd slip the price back down to $5). Icons are an easy medium for me, and one that I enjoy spending time creating. Icons like this or this could have taken anywhere between half-an-hour to one hour to create.

Complete art pieces are a completely different boat, and I probably wouldn't open for them for a while. Sometimes it takes me an hour to ink a piece, sometimes it takes me sixteen hours spanned over two days. I can color and shade in a couple of hours, or I may end up working over a single piece for a week or longer. I'd really have to time myself and price commissions on a case-by-case basis.

I agree with you: It's like two different worlds :) Tiny pixel art, animations or icons are fast, cheap and fun. Quick money, not to get rich but enough to survive for a while. Full, complete arts, is something you take more time to create and work with. :P

In my experience, every picture is a whole new experience, from boring you and take a week, to keep you excited and glued to the computer until you finish it in 12 hours all in one go xD;;; I think you're an experienced artists and you're mature enough to take all kind of commissions, I hope you have a good experience raising your savings with them, your wallet will be happy too ;D

I take commissions! The three I've ever taken, I had them done in a couple days (lolnolife), and generally my upper limit is twenty dollars. I am very dumb about prices though, I wind up thinking I'd rather just draw the thing and ask the person what they'd be willing to pay for it, ha ha. Bad idea, I know.

It's not such a bad idea when you start business :) After all, you need to draw to practise and improve, and this way you get paid for it. Also, you make a name in the fandom, and later they will be happy customers hiring you again ;)

Yeah I guess that's true, haha. Not that I'm particularly wanting to dive too deep into the fandom for various reasons, let alone make a living off it like some people do. I do quite enjoy doodling things for people though! That's my prime motivation.

I wish I did... I don't think I'm quite noticed enough.

That's something time solves quite well, no need to stress for it :3

Okay, well, I do full body sketches for one, whichI spend about an hour-2 hours on, because I don't want them looking crappy. They're $5-$10. example: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4101544/

Then onto pixel icons, which are 100x100 and I spend about two hours or more on, because I like to blend in the pixels with each other to make it look more realistic and detailed. Those are $6-$12. ex: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4064379/

Digitally painted icons are $15-$20. They take me much more than 4-6 hours to complete. Because of my eye for detail and color. ex: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4073097/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4071573/

Lastly are full body, full color pics with a simple BG for $20 or more. This takes different time intervals to complete. Sometimes it'll take 5 hours to complete, others are a day, two, or even a week on and off. But on average, takes about 10 hours from sketch to completion ex: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4061657/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4101054/

I feel like my prices need to be raised a bit more, but it isn't all too bad. My family thinks otherwise, and feels I should significantly raise them. I know I sold myself way too short on this detailed sketch here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4099580
All for $23 bucks.

I have not many customers, (since the last person who commissioned me was the only one since 08) I decided to lower them pathetically, thinking I'd get more customers, then slightly rise them more and more with rising popularity of my work.

I think your work is underpaid, but as you mention, sometimes it's better to get paid but not well, than to not get customers at all :P Your art takes time, your art is worth more, but if there are artists around drawing better for the same money, or drawing the same for a lower cost, then it's hard to deal with that o__O;;

May I ask you what do you get hired to do the most, digital icons or full color pics?

:D I TAKES COMMISSIONS!

Hehehe, course, there's always some level of guilt pointing out to someone you take commissions when they're a friend... >_O

Yeah, but if you're fair and ask the same for friends and not friends, nobody will feel guilty :) If not, your friends would never commission you because they would feel bad for the discount! xD

Right now I am only doing animated icons for, on average(the ones that people want) 10$
Though i used to do digital and traditional commissions somewhere between 2$-15$ depending on what they wanted.

For normal commissioned work, I honestly don't know if my work is/was/ever will be worth the money I get for it. I am not a businessman or someone who is good at appraising things. Where I would have seen my doodles worth 1$ at the most, I have the occasional person telling me I should charge more, so I go ahead and try. But nobody really wants anything, so I lower prices again normally until I finally get one bite. I would just blame the economies because everyone has a tight budget lately, no big deal :). *ramble ramble ramble* But I closed those commissions in order to practice and improve my work so I can eventually deserve what I would get.
As for the animated commissions, around 2-5 hours. So I am making somewhere between 2-5$ per hour. Kinda cool how that matches up, eh? :D

The popularity of an "artist" affecting prices seems like an unfair standard since there are quite a few, nameless, popular artist who have crappy work and don't bother working to improve and probably got their fame by pandering to meme-lovers or fetishists and there are a hand-ful of excellent artists who have talent and skill and actually do make an effort to improve whom... well, this arguement has been made way too many times. I am sure you know what I am talking about. XD
Unfortunately though, I suppose since beauty is in the eye of the beholder and what one should deserve for their work is relative, that the only real standard to work with in pricing a commission other than material costs or by-the-hour would end up having to be popularity. It is depressing. I wish there was a chart or something that showed quality:pricing rates. That way, things would be a lot more fair for a lot more people, though I suppose, unfortunate for a good some. :(


But yeah, over all, commission prices are REALLY tough to figure out. Either you get lucky and find the right price for your demand, or you don't. :D

How come you wanna know all this information, anyways, skiff?

One of the best, most reasonable feedbacks I have received here

I'm asking about this not only to ponder my back to art business but also to figure out how the general feeling about business is. I have never considered commissions as something to do for a living, but as a way to get paid for something I spend my time with, worthy or not. After all, I would draw in order to practise, improve, and get better, and this is a way to do it and also get a little reward. Not to mention every commission is a little challenge, and sometimes a risk you would have not taken if you don't get a customer giving you instructions.

The market is voluble, the market is unfair and sometimes cruel. It's not only a matter of skills or abilities, but popularity and business. Good artists can be underpaid, while others can get many bucks if they hit the nail. As you said, this arguement has been made way too many times, but that doesn't mean it's not something worth to talk about :3

I dont do commissions, so my comment here is irrelevant! :D

It's not so irrelevant if you have ever been a commissioner or a customer :D !!

well I've certainly been a customer! c:

See? ;D Told ya!

it is a very very fine line artists walk between being underpaid and being just out of reach cost wise for the average commissioner. You also have to keep in mind that you want a steady flow of people wanting to commission you as well.

Yeah, the more you raise the costs, the better you get paid... but less times. The lower you set the prices, the more work you do for the same money, but you get more customers...

I do free free comminssions because I want to meet people; yeah you've red correctly FREE, because so far I've got to develop in draw and payment would be problematic for the distances (live in Italy).
Times are a bit long for many reasons (sometimes school , others just some lazy ...) anyway if I know that the com. is urgent I take less than a week, in other cases 1 or 2.

Some day I'll make something for you Skifi!!!

Hahaha, I live in Spain, so we're quite close ;D I have seen for example the pics you did for Tani and Foshu, I think you have an interesting and nice style to develop ^^

Hey, and it would be interesting to see skifi in your style, hahaha. Someday! :)

I do free free comminssions because I want to meet people; yeah you've red correctly FREE, because so far I've got to develop in draw and payment would be problematic for the distances (live in Italy).
Times are a bit long for many reasons (sometimes school , others just some lazy ...) anyway if I know that the com. is urgent I take less than a week, in other cases 1 or 2.

Some day I'll make something for you Skifi!!!

if you start commissions... *begging kitty eyes*
Can i have a spot, please? =3

Hahaha, I think you would be the only one asking to pay me for a pic xD;;;

oh, i won't be the only one; fear not ;)

Yo hago commissions cuando tengo tiempo libre; es una buena forma de dibujar cosas que normalmente no harías y llevándote algo a cambio.

El dinero que pido por los dibujos y el tiempo que invierto van proporcionales al esfuerzo que requiere la commissions, me lleva más tiempo y salen más caros los dibujos coloreados que los que son sólo a lapiz, y aquellos que llevan un fondo elaborado, etc...
Y también invierto más tiempo si el tema del dibujo o el personaje me resulta interesante, pero eso es normal, ¿no?

Yo hay veces que si el tema del dibujo me resulta interesante, incluso cobro menos, o doy un acabado mejor sin cobrar extras porque quiero ver cómo queda totalmente coloreado :) Es que hay personajes que me llaman poderosamente la atención y no puedo resistirme a dibujarlos x)

I take comissions. Sometimes I take from several hours to several WEEKS x_x on them because life/stress/silliness gets in the way... and then I charge just whatever thhe person thinks the art is worth. I don't feel like I can charge a set price when there are so many other artists better than me. XDD If someone wants to pay $3 for a full color pic, well... for me half the pay is just having brought a new piece of art into the world really, and that's something many commissioners may not realize. Of course I'd LIKE to be paid more than $3 or so, but... :p :) XD

Hahaha, I get your point xD;;; After all, if you were not commissioned, you would be drawing pics anyway, and they would be for free, so at least this way you get some bucks in return ;) Besides, every pic you get paid to draw is a little challenge, and I bet it helps you to not only practice but improve too :)

eh. los precios de mis commissions son, relativamente justos, para mi estilo.
ahora mismo tengo cerradas casi todas pero. tengo una lista [con precios en USD]

$6 simple sketches, osea, sketches hechos a lapiz que no tienen sombreado ni nada, con estos cobro $5 extra por cada personaje extra en una pic.

$10 sketches, son sketches mas detallados, terminados con lapiceros de punta de bola [de esos papermate o bic, etc] y cada personaje extra es $8

$13 sketches, aun mas detallados, estos tienen un sombreado faber castell HB 2 y pasados con algodón [o tela[ para que se vea mas suave. personajes extra son $10.

en todos los casos, ningunto tiene fondo. y los objetos extra son $4[ ya sea un monton de dulces, un gavetero, una mesa, etc]

Lineart: $18. con lineas digitales, no hay mucho que decir. persojanes extra son $13 y objetos, $8

Flat color: $25. unnpersonaje, no bg, no importa que tan complicado sea el personaje, lo puedo dibujar. personajes extra son $15 y objetos, $13

Full color and shading. $30-35. en estos cobro mas o lo normal dependiendo de que tan complicado sea el personaje, o la pose, o el contenido. en este caso, personaje extra es $20, objetos son a $15, YIFF/MATURE, es $5 extra. [si, en este caso cobro extra si es mature o no]

en cuanto el tiempo que tardo, eso depende de como este mi vida real, pero en el mejor de los casos, para un full digital, tardo como 2-3 dias en terminarlas, suponiendo que trabajaria al menos 4 horas al dia, y si estoy bien libre.

fetishs? todos los hago, menos scat/watersports. en el caso de los digital works [de lineart en adelante] cobro $20 extra para esos dos ultimos fetiches que mencione [scat/watersports]

espero que te sirva de ayuda ^^

ah si... los precios varian dependiendo de la popularidad del artista. olvide decir eso.
yo creo que podrias hacer un buen dinerito con tus commish, podrian ser mucho mucho mas caras que las mias XD tu estilo es genial y de alguna manera tiene el "toque" que a los commissioners les gusta ver y comprar.

Hey, tu estilo es bueno también, al menos lo que se puede ver en tu galería de FA está genial :) En cuanto a los precios, jejeje, lo tienes todo calculado, así es mejor para el cliente porque lo tiene claro a la hora de pedir, y me parece muy bien que haya pocas diferencias entre las categorías porque así se animan a tener un dibujo mejor sólo por un pequeño suplemento ;)

La verdad es que sí que te agradezco que me hayas detallado tanto lo que sueles cobrar, porque me va a ayudar a definir un poco lo que tengo que hacer con las mías. No sé si los precios son justos o no, yo creo que siempre va a depender de lo que tú consideres que merece la pena. Y me queda una duda: ¿le pides al cliente que te deje publicar el encargo en tu galería, o en otras partes, o cobras algún suplemento si el cliente te pide que el dibujo sea sólo para él y nadie más lo pueda ver o utilizar? :) ¿Y envías por correo postal los originales si te los piden? ^^

Por cierto, no sé si los precios varían realmente dependiendo de la popularidad, sino que más bien la popularidad hace que tengas más o menos encargos, y el que tiene tantos encargos puede cobrar más porque siempre hay alguien entre esos tantos dispuesto a pagar tanto xD;;; Gracias por tus cumplidos, pero me has dejado con curiosidad acerca del "toque" que mencionas ;3

jeje. pues lo de el distribuir mis dibujos, esta bien ^^ no me importa, mientras me lo digan claro. siempre dire que si, pero seria excelente que me lo preguntasen antes de postear, y mientras no digan que fue hecho por la persona que los distribuyen, en cuanto lo del correo postal, desafortunadamentte no. el servicio postal de la republica dominicana es pesimo, y no me gusta,por lo tanto no proveo de ese servicio, pero si lo hiciese entonces cobraria $5 por shipping.


en cuanto el toque xD sencillo, te pongo un ejemplo. la gente que les gusta mis dibujos dicen que mis dibujos valen tener mas watches de los que tengo [y hablo de 3000+ watchers]. lamentablemente eso no ocurre porque mi estilo no es lo que gran cantidad de gente gente busca ver o comprar. por eso no tengo mas de 1200 XD.

igualmente agradezco que te guste lo que posteo tambien ^^

I have yet to open for commissions, myself, because I'm such a squirrel when it comes to drawing anything. With my own art, it's a rare piece that I can sit down and draw a completed piece, all in one sitting. Heck, right now, I have half a dozen drawings in various stages of completion. Desperate times, however, have made me decide to hold my first ladder auction. I'll post it in my journal, as soon as that's ready to go. *sighs*

Hey, never underestimate yourself, you may be surprise with the feedback you get from that auction once you set it ;3

Besides, it's not so bad to take a few days to complete a pic, that way you can notice mistakes or improve stuff you didn't see in the first sketch, and take some breaks to come back refreshed. That usually helps to improve the final product, I think :3

I take them. The reader's digest of my prices is pretty much:

15-20$ for a sketch I spend a fair amount of time on.
35-50$ for a badge depending on size (fullbody vs. bust) and if I have to print it myself
70$-100$ for an up to two character simple background image or a single character reference
Full Background character images go from 150-250$ depending on what gets done. These are usually done on an auction basis though and my auctions average at about 200$. Any character beyond two interacting will equal half the price of the commission (example: 200$ commission for two characters, a third character added would be 100$)

For a no-rights sold image a fair price in the real world would be 500$ for a cheap piece or logo. In the world of anthro art I think 200$ for a two character + background commission is an extremely reasonable price from someone who is obviously far beyond stick figures. 10-20$ for a sketch is cheap. I was once told someone would do a doodle on a napkin for no less than 100$ from a professional standpoint. Furry is not professional unfortunately, it's the Average Joe customer. Your prices on art need to reflect a Wal-mart low almost.


I try to get paid 20$ and hour if I can help it. For a freelancer doing art for a life-business you should probably be making 3 times that much. For badges I tend to spend about 3 hours each on average (busts take less time, full body takes more etc) The average price of my badges is about 40$. 40$ for three hours is about 13$ an hour. About what I'd be making on a Co-Op but without the added benefits. On large commissions I tend to spend about 3 days on a drawing on an off if I totaled my hours together. I want to make a quality product for all my customers :)

Since years ago, I know you not only as an evolving artist, but also as a (good) person, and I think I can't agree more with you. Not only your words are reasonable but also full of truth. And also I'm glad to see how your skills have skyrocketed the same than your professionalism :)

Even if somebody could think your prices are too high for the average artist in FA, I think it's even the opposite. Your works are worth that cost, if not more, but we need to live in the actual market, and our environment is actually a low-cost brother of fine arts... I have been one of your happy customers a few times, and I have always been happy and grateful for the work I got in return for my bucks, so I know you try your best everytime, and not only in your commissions. If you get to think how much you get paid per hour, yeah, it's not worthy, but at least it's something. And not bad in our actual environment.

I don't think it's because of your popularity (something you got only because of your good quality art and your skills, and not for non-artistic reasons), but because people see how much you work with your drawings, and how they're luring enough to hire you. Besides, I bet you have not a lack of customers, and, hey, if you did, you can still devote more time for the art you're working with and it will be worth later :)

Besides, we all would work anyway, to practise, to draw gifts, to improve.... and a commission is a way to also get some money in return, not just to do it for a living. And every commission is also a little challenge, because they may lead you to draw something you would have not in mind if not paid for, or a character or species you never tried before, right? :)

Thanks for taking the time to reply, AC ;3 Glad to talk to you again!

Did you know that in order to even be 'similar' to a real job with befinits in America the average freelance artist should be charging about 100$ an hour just to live? Looking at the prices in the professional world should really make people appreciate what a discount they get here :)

I do when I hire somebody to do a commission. I have been your customer a few times and I know what I got was something great if you compare it with the money I paid. That should promote the average furry artist, this kind of art is actually quite cheap when compared with other styles, and you can get a really professional artwork for not too many bucks :) I hope your actual customers think alike!

I opened free comissions once for a couple of days, people generally asked for a refund.

ROFLMAO! xD;;

But what a pity I missed that, I would have ordered one ;D *giggles*

Mine usually average $20-$30. Time depends on whether its colored or not. I don't know the exact amount of hours, but black and white can be done in a day, color maybe two or three.

Well, Drew, I have seen your pics, and they're quite good, so i guess you get commissioned often, people may like them too as much as I do. I do digital colors like you, so I know how time-consuming it is. I guess sometimes you feel like raising the fees to make it worth x3;

First, thank you for the compliment. I'd like to raise, but I feel its more important to get my name out there first.

I imagine you could charge a decent amount more than I can.

Usually I let the artist do his own thang. Even if I give an artist my idea. I usually commission them so they can surprise me with their own ideas. If I give the artist restrictions, the art is going to look whack.

If I ever do commission's. I will ask the commissioner to "shut up" and let me draw. After it is done, the only changes I will make are color, marking mistakes and or if I got the idea wrong.

If they get to picky and cranky, I will refund the money back... I will sell the unfinished commission to someone else for a cheaper price and change stuff here and there for the new commissioner...

I really dont like drama pretty much...

Is it worth it? I spent 4 hours yesterday on arts. How much do you get paid as a doctor an a hour? So no, its not worth... I draw because I love it. Its a hobby that I love! So if a commissioner gives me beef. I will sooooo end it. Not worth it if the commissioner gets all emotional...

Good luck man!

As a doctor, I get paid like... $10-15 per hour :) Public healthcare system doesn't allow you to get rich, hahaha. But yeah, it still pays better than commissions :3 But I'd still do them for fun, and to keep practising.

I agree a lot with you, I have commissioned many artists in the past, and I used to give them a lot of freedom :) The same than I would like for myself. If I pay somebody to get art done, it's because I like their style and ideas, then I don't want to pressure them, I also am never in a hurry, so they can take their time ^^ I think it's better that way, so I'm glad you think alike :3

yu should be millionair by now seeing as how many hours you work and how less free days you seem to have ;P x3
you could at least gimme some that money if I cant get anything else from you XD;

You don't want diamonds, soooo xD;;;

well I could transfer you my bank infos so you can show me your love by "filling" my account if you cant do it in a different way ;3 x3;;;;;;;;

Mi prima trabaja en un trabajo de inversión. Que tristeza me da que los americanos invierten dinero en hospitales para ganar dinero. Los doctores y las compañía de salud hacen billions en nuestra salud aquí.

Un ejemplo. Mi madre tiene epilepsia. Y necesita la medicina Dilantin para que no le de ataques de epilepsia. Un dia nuestra seguro de salud le hablo a mama que la compañía que hace Dilantin ya no existe, y que necesitan cambiar de medicina mas barata. Mi madre no puede vivir sin la medicina Dilantin. Y ya mero muria. En final la verdad salio que la medicina Dilantin todavía esta producida y todo era mentira... El seguro de salud de mama quería ahorrar unos "centavos" con la vida de mi madre....

Maybe its good and bad that your system does that. I would really love to become a doctor in your country. I cant stand to work with money hungry evil people. I cant stand to make a profit on peoples health and lives...


Thanks skifi.... I hope the best for you!!!!!!!!

Es por eso que admiro tanto el sistema de salud que tenemos aquí, con atención y medicinas gratuitas para todos :) Espero que tu madre no tenga más problemas de aquí en adelante ^^

Muchas gracias hombre.

Muchas gracias por hacer doctor Skfi. Yo creo que mucha gente lo hace aqui por el dinero. Y no siempre quieren hacer doctores para ayudar y aliviar la salud de los "clientes".

Me da tristeza que no ganes mucho dinero por tu profesión Skifi. Pero si me gustaría tener esa sistema aquí en los estados unidos. Porque? Para que la gente que deberás quiera ser doctor no nomas lo hagan por el dinero. Pero que deberás quieran ayudar.

Tengo mas cuentos de malos doctores aqui. Pero para que hablar de eso? No mas me voy a enojar.