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Second Life - um WTF!? Why is this game so n00b unfreindly?
15 years ago
So I met alot of neat people when I was up in Canada and then off to AC and a few of these peeps play Second Life. I figured I might install it and play to keep up with them. So I install the client with help from one via MSN, and learn how to navigate and start doing basic things. After a few days I figure out how to fly/run/teleport and start buying things and using them. (I got real frustrated when I couldn't since I didn't know I had to go to certain areas to unpackage them......)
Wanting to fit in, I figure lets get an Avatar made of the scalesona. So I arranged it with an artist here on FA. We met in game and chatted about particulars, and we worked out an agreement.
So all this going well, I'm getting the hang of things, and figure lets buy something fun. So I hit a few area's where there are lots of things for sell and I find this gun shop. I picked up a hand gun (6 shooter revolver)that had a taunt setting and this suicide option which is actually rather funny to watch. So I go through a couple areas and show people my new cool taunts. Everything's going really well and people laugh when I do the suicide option so I figure lets upgrade. I found another area to buy the bigger badder looking toys.
I pick up a set of M14A1 Carbines that I can't get to work right, so one of my friends log in, and they wind up getting one of his friends to log in we get this bad boy working. So after playing with it on dummy targets they log off and I start running around playing with it.
So I'm shooting having a blast, there's like no one on anymore and all of a sudden I get some weird IM from some guy standing off further away "lose the guns or leave, this is the nice warning" So I figure I must have shot in his direction and he was mad for some reason, so I stopped shooting and started walking away. So like 10 minutes later I get a message from the client saying I'm being teleported. I'm like huh?
After I was teleported I got the "You are banned message" for Dragon. Shocked I minimized the window and started googling bans in Second Life. My jaw literally dropped when I saw all the crap that came up. Seriously, you get banned in this game for farting in a crowd! To confuse matters there are apparently 3 different area types general, mature and adult. And things you can do in general can't be done in the other two and vice verse. Then there are apparently additional restrictions on each independent area based on who owns it.... Back to the point. SO like after I'm done googling I PM the guy that helped me get the gun working and he logs on and I teleport him to me. Apparently the guy that sent the one line demand/warning was the same one that did the ban and my friend talked with him for a bit, he admitted to warning me in an assish fashion and told me friend to teach me to play the game.
I got a "you are banned from this area" for Dystopia when I tried to teleport back there today to wait for the artist that was designing my avatar. I'm like totally going WTF at this point.
So in a nutshell I was banned from Furnation - Dragon even though I complied to a demand by a complete stranger when it was given. Apparently the ban also hit the neighboring area Dystopia even though I wasn't shooting there. And now I'm an asshole for having bought a firearm and running around playing with it. I got one singular line of text from one person telling me to lose the guns or leave and wham, I'm banned from two areas not just one..... for compliance! I got banned and I haven't even been playing more than a week at this point.......
So I sent a PM to the artist who was offline, telling them that some arse banned me and I can't meet them at their area anymore. When she logs in she tells me I was correct and that the deal was off. So seriously, I'm in here learning the ropes and now I'm not just banned from two areas over something ridiculously trivial, now the artist is backing out of the avatar commission over it too, and treating me like I'm a 9 year SL veteran and knew better. Is this honestly how you expect to get new people to play and be part of the community? I'm not saying I didn't do something wrong, I'm saying I didn't know and a bit more consideration toward my side here would be freaking awesome.
Summary, new player buys freely available items at markets and plays with them then gets banned for it..... ?????? There were no warnings when I bought the guns that they couldn't or shouldn't be used. The area I was in didn't warn me about it, and when I got the PM I stopped and walked away as directed. If this is how this game is, then I'm actually glad the commission is canceled because I don't want to waste any money on it. I thought this was a sim to have fun, not ostracize n00bs learning the game.
Name of artist and banner withheld because this isn't supposed to be a drama post, more of a WTF is going on can I get some more information post!
Wanting to fit in, I figure lets get an Avatar made of the scalesona. So I arranged it with an artist here on FA. We met in game and chatted about particulars, and we worked out an agreement.
So all this going well, I'm getting the hang of things, and figure lets buy something fun. So I hit a few area's where there are lots of things for sell and I find this gun shop. I picked up a hand gun (6 shooter revolver)that had a taunt setting and this suicide option which is actually rather funny to watch. So I go through a couple areas and show people my new cool taunts. Everything's going really well and people laugh when I do the suicide option so I figure lets upgrade. I found another area to buy the bigger badder looking toys.
I pick up a set of M14A1 Carbines that I can't get to work right, so one of my friends log in, and they wind up getting one of his friends to log in we get this bad boy working. So after playing with it on dummy targets they log off and I start running around playing with it.
So I'm shooting having a blast, there's like no one on anymore and all of a sudden I get some weird IM from some guy standing off further away "lose the guns or leave, this is the nice warning" So I figure I must have shot in his direction and he was mad for some reason, so I stopped shooting and started walking away. So like 10 minutes later I get a message from the client saying I'm being teleported. I'm like huh?
After I was teleported I got the "You are banned message" for Dragon. Shocked I minimized the window and started googling bans in Second Life. My jaw literally dropped when I saw all the crap that came up. Seriously, you get banned in this game for farting in a crowd! To confuse matters there are apparently 3 different area types general, mature and adult. And things you can do in general can't be done in the other two and vice verse. Then there are apparently additional restrictions on each independent area based on who owns it.... Back to the point. SO like after I'm done googling I PM the guy that helped me get the gun working and he logs on and I teleport him to me. Apparently the guy that sent the one line demand/warning was the same one that did the ban and my friend talked with him for a bit, he admitted to warning me in an assish fashion and told me friend to teach me to play the game.
I got a "you are banned from this area" for Dystopia when I tried to teleport back there today to wait for the artist that was designing my avatar. I'm like totally going WTF at this point.
So in a nutshell I was banned from Furnation - Dragon even though I complied to a demand by a complete stranger when it was given. Apparently the ban also hit the neighboring area Dystopia even though I wasn't shooting there. And now I'm an asshole for having bought a firearm and running around playing with it. I got one singular line of text from one person telling me to lose the guns or leave and wham, I'm banned from two areas not just one..... for compliance! I got banned and I haven't even been playing more than a week at this point.......
So I sent a PM to the artist who was offline, telling them that some arse banned me and I can't meet them at their area anymore. When she logs in she tells me I was correct and that the deal was off. So seriously, I'm in here learning the ropes and now I'm not just banned from two areas over something ridiculously trivial, now the artist is backing out of the avatar commission over it too, and treating me like I'm a 9 year SL veteran and knew better. Is this honestly how you expect to get new people to play and be part of the community? I'm not saying I didn't do something wrong, I'm saying I didn't know and a bit more consideration toward my side here would be freaking awesome.
Summary, new player buys freely available items at markets and plays with them then gets banned for it..... ?????? There were no warnings when I bought the guns that they couldn't or shouldn't be used. The area I was in didn't warn me about it, and when I got the PM I stopped and walked away as directed. If this is how this game is, then I'm actually glad the commission is canceled because I don't want to waste any money on it. I thought this was a sim to have fun, not ostracize n00bs learning the game.
Name of artist and banner withheld because this isn't supposed to be a drama post, more of a WTF is going on can I get some more information post!
Best bet is to wait a few days and contact the sim's owner or one of their sim adims. Explain the situation to them. Be respectful and cool headed. People hate griefers on SL and those that spam clubs or sims with laggy or annoying sound bites or animations they get banned quickly. If you enter a new area check the about land button and read if there are any rules on the sims, most likely firing guns, or using laggy scripts or animations isn't allowed or discouraged. Best always to ask the sim owner if its ok. Do remain respectful if they say no. Sim owners run many of these places as a business and pay around couple hundred dollars to a couple thousand a month depending on how many sims they operate maintain these places.
yet its stupid that the artist cancled just cause of a stupid ban like that. but when say lose the guns it means take them off or remove them from avi.
My sympathies for you bud, I can suggest Club FLEX or Draconian Yiff Fantasy Club if you want other places to go to. They are a bit more lax over there.
Never played anymore because of it's newbie unfriendly interface and stuff as well. =<
People assume that because THEY'RE experienced, anyone they talk to is also experienced and knows the rules.
It can be rediculous, Ssvanti. I'm sorry things worked out like that for you.
The ban is gone, btw. I generally don't keep permanent bans.