i like this

yes, now i dont mind people using a character that looks nothing like them as long as they clearly state "hey this looks nothing like me"

i made my character based in every way off myself... same body type as me... wears the same clothes i would, the hairstyle i had a few months ago tattoos i wanna get someday... and it's not like that's his NATURAL hair colour...

See You are trying to base your character on yourself, and if you werent [as long as you let people know its nothing like you] i wouldnt mind either im just tired of all the liars and the stingy fuckers with the "i created THIS fox and you can not use it or i will send a whole hoard of my furry friends on your ass to troll on you because im sooooo original its fucking oozing from my skin!"

god i hate most furries now.

but let me also be clear if someone HAS a good reason, i will obviously not give them a hard time about it.

well i also don't claim originality with my character... my character himself is unique and original to me yes... but his design i could really care less about... if somebody wants to use my character then fine! free arts for me! i won't bitch

My male 'sona is in no way the representation of myself, it is the representation of my personality

and my females are pretty much just characters I wanna see drawn in an artistic fashion or just feel whoring out to get fucked

as long as you admit your sona doesnt resemble you i dont really care that much. its just the people that are like "oh yeah im ripped and sexy just like my character"

and mainly the people that trace, steal, and or claim is original when it CLEARLY isnt

pffft i'd give my left nut to resemble my character >_> i'm a fat lazy bastard

i'm fine with tracing when their just doing it for fun but if their making a profit off it then its fucked up

exactly. thats what im trying to say. i dont mind chubby people AT ALL most of my family is chubby my fiancee was chubby but hes got a wicked fast metabolism. its just those who are lying... i hate it.

>_> i wanna fast metabolismmmmmmmmm </3 no fair

meh their just portraying what they wish they were. Or just something they want to exploit for sexual images to fap to

......why do i fail at hitting the reply button >_>"

lol i think we all do that sometimes

fapping and not hitting the reply button lol

some more than others o xo

I think i'd like to make my own comment as well. You could say that as an individual, I am unique, there's no other 'me' cloned out there. Or, you could say, by merit of my birth as a human being, I am in no way original, and I can't claim to personally own any of my features because they are shared.

Originality and species aren't really one in the same. Keep in mind though, with the 'original character, don't use without permission' comments I've seen, it was really about direct association with them. I.e. Snowflake the panda is a regular looking panda girl, draws clean art, and doesn't want people saying 'check out this tentacle rape porn, now with 20% more 'feces pieces candy' style scat porn, the character snowflake is property of (account) and look what an e-slut she is.'

That makes sense, but it's the people that hint, hedge and outright claim that their fursona represents them that are truly being deceptive. It's the 'my character is a lot like me in some ways...' when they mean that they both love chocolate, or the type that goes 'not everyone in the fandom is ugly' in defending what they really look like. That one gets me twice over, first of all, large body types do not equate to ugliness in my book. Second of all, those statements don't say how you look, they just try to imply it on your profile page in hopes you'll ASSUME they're similar to their fursona.

People don't actually have furry bodies and tails (unless they have interesting medical conditions), therefore by your 'body type' standard, they aren't being honest. I'm a teensy dragon, am i more original than some (though still not the first) but lying even more than others because I am most certainly not six inches tall with scales and wings? I get being upset with the facade people put up, the pretenders and the complainers, by the way. I will say this much though. I just don't see fursona as being an indicator of actual body type. As such I just...I can't dislike 99% of furries on basis of their fursona, so many of the furries I've met don't claim this.

In conclusion, so I can write you into a story where TigraFrostbite falls into a nest of pocket dragons and get pounded in every hole by dozens of pocket dragon tails?!?

Hawt +1.

U giv mi mindgasm. Kthx hai gud 2 miicha!

ok you are a writer... and you just made me feel really stupid... im not sure if you are arguing with me or agreeing with me. and i dont mind if you put me in a story. put me in any story you want :) if you were serious ummm id much rather it be a story where tigra doesnt get pounded in every hole >.>

Hehe, I was making my own comment on the matter, but I was disagreeing about furries all being full of shit 99% of the time. If it's about fursona's not being accurate, I don't expect fursona's to be a portrayal of their body.

With everything else, it's just my comment, such as when "original character: don't use in your art" means "don't put me into your own art without permission" makes sense, but trying to lay claim to a type of body, species or marking, is just dumb. Similarly, like I said though I don't mind people having a fursona nothing like they're body type, I find it to be quite off-putting when they misrepresent themselves or try to imply they are different, such as putting in their profile "not every furry doesn't look like their fursona." when in actuality they don't, etc.

But about you not wanting to get pounded in every hole...but you SAAaaaiid...

"My sona is a female white tiger with my body type, my hair colour, and my style, and a name that I think is neat.
My character is not original. Use as you please."

See, you said I could use you as I please! I want you to be a bisexual cyborg sex ninja who has mastered the art of hump-fu, and whose power cells an only be recharged by giving blowjobs! What??

(I'm teasing :) And though I'm busy at the moment, let me know if you ever want to do an actual collaboration, artists and writers collaborating can lead to some interesting things after all. :) Great for getting the creative juices flowing)

that sounds like a good idea but it takes me forever to get my hand motions flowing properly

i totally agree with you, wish i could put something more elaborate but i just woke up xD;

lol

*snugs* leaving in two days, im getting excited

I used to have my "fursona" represent me as it was similar with hair length, color, and weight/body type. Eventually I gave up on that aspect, and when I did he kind of evolved on his own. This is fantasy, so I'm guessing they want them to look like what they truly feel inside. Some of those are quite scary and disgusting (that coming from someone who sits through horror movies and can laugh at them), but you just have to remember one thing. This is all PRETEND.

yeah i know it is... but im mainly mad at the liars, thats all. the characters being different isnt really whats getting me here, its people who trace and people who claim originality.

I'd like to think mine's original, but at least it's uncommon. :3

I've seen you on cam. You are "chubby", and low and behold, your fursona is not. Ya know what.. before you got on a rant, make sure you aren't doing what your ranting about. It just pisses off the people who watch you.

would you like to look at my sona again? and where have you seen me on cam? my gallery has pictures of me standing. my sona has giant tits like mine, and weighs the same as me. i draw her body the way mine looks. other people dont always draw it the way it really is.

her fursona is chubby and has huge boobs the same as her irl the and who the hell are u and why would u ever have been on cam with my girl

When she decided to show off to the world that she was eating a scorpion Popsicle thingy

my character has my body type, sir. look again. depending on where and how i am sitting, you could have gotten a false image of my body. im not trying to piss people off, this rant is about those who LIE... like saying they weigh 100 pounds when they dont. my characters body is maybe 10 pounds from my own at most. my weight has fluctuated alot and i tend to keep my character around my average body weight which is between 150 and 160. i weigh alot but i dont look it.

There are no "rules" to speak of in the furry community. Therefore, it's impossible to break them. Even the definition of "furry" is so fluid, to the point that it becomes so difficult to even use it as an umbrella term because it means so many different things to different individuals.

I don't see anything wrong with any of your concerns in any way.

this journal i approve of!

LOL i agree them kinda people piss me off too - 'artist' you draw a red fox with one marking.
you write just below the fucking picture "original character, do not steal"

This is win.

I cannot say how much respect I have towards this journal. Truly it is rare to see anyone with the boldness to say what you have.

One thing I see too often is something where a person uses the "sona" concept to seem to escape reality and attempt to be something they are not. Granted many people admit that it is for fun, similar to enjoy a role playing video game; you can play as a different person all you want but at the end of the day you have to accept that it is just another reality within the actuality, its fun but it shouldn't be taken so literally. Furthermore, some people i've seen go so far as to change their name so repeatedly in real life to reflect the character in question, for me, i've had different sonas for fun but i've never changed my own name to their name, i've gone by maybe one nickname and my real name for the past 3 years and will continue to do so.

Now as you said, if someone can say they dont resemble their sona thats great. but to act like that is who they are on every level in waking life, it just isn't healthy I mean so many people take it literally like "omg look at it, they're so hot" and get this false impression of someone online. I'd prefer something that actually looks like me and is original, I often make up new types of species for characters for myself and in stories but they all generally have my traits perhaps in different clothing styles or resembling different emotions while retaining an aspect that is clearly myself.

On another note, because of how lost half of the people in the fandom are mentally, they get into the habit of portraying themseves so falsely that it becomes an addiction like "Oh look how big and strong and sexy I am, I clearly must look like this in real life!" they get tons of fans, attention, etc. But at the end of the day they are just a person so distraught they can't even see how dumb they look lying to themself and others; being original shouldn't mean being dishonest.

Thank for bringing this up Tigra, we need more people like you around here.

thanks :) im glad you understood my point here

I just wanted to comment on the weight thing. I'm 200+ lbs but I never tell artists how to portray Darling in body type. So I have some art where she is skinny, some where she's young, some where she's a big fat balloon. :3 She represents the me inside, because inside I'm not just a fat girl.

But I do agree about the "original character" bullshit.

i dont always see things like above -facepalm- that was a rant.

I know. :3 Its ok.