Gdi
14 years ago
Oh noes, an opinione! So there's been a couple of genuine suicides lately.
One thing that's annoyed me to no end -aside from the LOLFAKE shit- is the fact that people who commit suicide are branded as selfish or weak.
I'm sorry but no. It takes a fuckload of courage to kill yourself.
I can say so because I've been there, several times, but never had the backbone to go through with it. I've been in a place where it's felt like I was the problem and the only solution would be to remove myself from everything. That way I'd no longer be a concern. I wouldn't be another mouth to feed, a child to burden someone, a failure of a person.
The "they're weak" crowd pisses me off the most. Not everyone is able to crawl out of a depression rut. Not everyone is able to just shrug off feelings that return day after day after day. You try spending every day in tears for no reason, being too afraid to go tell your doctor because you'd become some sort of center of attention.
I don't condone it, but I don't slander the people either.
One thing that's annoyed me to no end -aside from the LOLFAKE shit- is the fact that people who commit suicide are branded as selfish or weak.
I'm sorry but no. It takes a fuckload of courage to kill yourself.
I can say so because I've been there, several times, but never had the backbone to go through with it. I've been in a place where it's felt like I was the problem and the only solution would be to remove myself from everything. That way I'd no longer be a concern. I wouldn't be another mouth to feed, a child to burden someone, a failure of a person.
The "they're weak" crowd pisses me off the most. Not everyone is able to crawl out of a depression rut. Not everyone is able to just shrug off feelings that return day after day after day. You try spending every day in tears for no reason, being too afraid to go tell your doctor because you'd become some sort of center of attention.
I don't condone it, but I don't slander the people either.
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When people phrase it a certain way, they end up coming off just as selfish as the people they brandish as such.
"Don't kill yourself; Think of all the people it will effect!"
Perhaps it's selfish not to consider the feelings of others, but when stated that way, it makes it seem like the concern is for the emotions of everyone but the one committing the act.
I think what people should focus on more is proving to the person they matter.
Not everyone is concerned about how many people love them. You can easily feel alone when surrounded by loved ones, after all. I've been there, done that.
A lot of the time it's a battle of self worth. Do they feel like they aren't talented enough, intelligent enough, work hard enough.. perhaps they're addicted to a substance that leads them to abuse. How do you show that person that they are worth the air they breath WITHOUT turning this into a guilt trip? "What would your mother think?"
How about..
"Do you know what amazing things you've done in life?"
Remind them that they are worth the air they breath. DO remind them that they are loved, but don't make everyone else's emotions be the only reason they should stay around.
A child might get left behind to raise themselves, or a mother/wife left to debt, a child and who knows what else.
And there's the guy who drove his car into traffic, which is indeed an act I frown upon, as he very well could have taken the life of another.
But that's not the point of what I said above as much as a clarification of my views.
There are so many different factors in why an individual commits suicide. And they vary from person to person. Mockery of the deceased, scorn and condemnation...indifference. Turning it into something "funny". Those are repugnant reactions. It is possible to understand "why" and show a bit of compassion without actually approving of the action. But that takes effort and it seems like most people want to just make their assumptions, throw about their hateful comments, and make the person's loved ones feel even worse about the situation.
You're right. It takes a lot of determination to actually go through with the act of suicide. The survival instinct is very strong and it takes great willpower to overcome it, even for someone who's in such a bad place mentally/emotionally they don't seem to have any strength left.
I still do, from time to time, now.
But the whole: "omg, that's so selfish. Think of everyone else."
I was thinking of 'everyone else'. I was thinking about how much of a burden I was on everyone around me. I was thinking about all the pain those 'everyone else's had put me through in my life.