I've been wondering that too. Paladins in D2 were amazing, but perhaps Blizzard's holding out on us until the expansion hits us?

I enjoy playing as a wizard, but I know I'm a walking pile of glass the further I go in this game.

Im playing a DH, and my issue with it so far is simply that I cannot stand up to enemies at all. I gotta kill, or run. Kite. But I cant really, truly, engage the enemies per se, and I definitely cant just rush forwards. I wanna play the game to mangle, slaughter and rape demons, but I gotta be methodical and take my time... ;v;

Yeah, I feel ya. Usually I have to smack them with a constant Frost Ray from afar, and if I get ganged up, use the defensive spell and move back to a safer distance. I love using wizards, because they're really powerful when done right, but I hate the constant need to kite and having to always stick my pinky on the Q key in case of trouble.

Onxy has the hots for demons, you heard it here first. :D

I think I mis-spoke...

No you didn't >:3 You know you want some o' dat ass :P

I've a friend running a DH to Inferno Diablo now, and he has similar complaints, that even with 40k hp, everything, and I do mean everything one-shots him.

See, we witch doctors get a very cheap passive skill due to how squishy we are.
Every two minutes, instead of dying when taking life damage, you go in to a spirit walk for two seconds and gain 10% health back. =p That and with a plethora of health-returning skills makes it so much more convenient. I should die several times each time I play yet I only end up doing so maybe once or twice.

Oh right and a couple spirit-based skills have two seconds shaved off their cooldown time.

You will be forced to tank in D3 as Barb, im farming act 3 and 4 myself as one so i know what im talking about.

Zerk spec is ok...But your VERY limited to what you can actually do.

thats exactly what Ive heard, and it irks me. Barbs should be wielding 2 1handers, or one GIANT weapon, to smash faces. Not hiding behind shields. THats for the knights and templar and paladins and whatnot

Barbs are supposed to be the raw armor and HP tank and monks are the self-healing evasion tanks... Until you hit Hell. Bosses aren't too bad but when it comes to Elite groups, I entirely agree. They rape you, even more so when specific situations come up. Do you know how impossible it is for a monk to survive Fast/Fire Chains/Health Link Scavengers that are in the crypts that have the crown in act 1? Seriously, don't tell me knockback either. The Fast ability makes that null and void... And the fact there is no place to move makes the Fire Chains impossible to deal with.

Another enchant that is impossible to deal with as Barbs or Monks? Plagued Frozen Invulnerable Minion Rares. Seriously, melee needs a big survival buff, because getting 1-2 shotted in Hell makes me start regretting there even is any sort of melee class in the game. A melee character should not have to kite elites for 30-45 minutes to kill them. I'm starting to find a lot more fun in my Witch doctor because of this.

"A melee character should not have to kite elites for 30-45 minutes to kill them"

THAT is exactly what Im getting at. This is my biggest complaint, I think, with the game right now. You want to feel powerful, you want to go into combat and lop off heads and smash faces and crush skulls and whatnot... not tiptoe into combat and run as soon as someone tries poking you. Thats not the way it should be!

the monk is pretty much a tanking class. with all the healing and shielding abilities it works...up until hell/inferno mode >..>;

this is like saying a rogue is a tanking class in WoW because it has high evasion and escapability...
Its not supposed to work like that, I say! KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR, WHERE ARE YOU?!

A rogue isn't, but a Druid and Death Knight are, and those two tanks are either evasion tanks or self-healing tanks.

Even to some degree, Monk tanking starts to fail at late act3/early act4 nightmare... At least that's what I found. Then again, I couldn't find any vitality gear to save my feathered ass.

tanking stopped working for me at the end of act 3 in hell mode :P otherwise it was just bang bang pow heal, flash boom~!

I just wished I'd get Monk drops when I was actually playing my Monk. Every character I've played so far, it's all "Here's some Demon Hunter gear!"

For the MOST part, I've been doing pretty well as a tanky monk, but then again my dps output is also fairly anemic compared to the friend's demon hunter that I've been playing with. Battles become more attrition-based than anything else, but for the most part I've found it pretty fun dashing around the field, debuffing monsters and wearing them down. I just finished Hell mode at 59 last night, we'll see today how much that changes in Inferno.

That's with something like 60% to all elemental resists, 82% physical damage reduction, and around 45% dodge. It's enough to handle most groups, but admittedly something like a spiderling pack with freeze, molten, and fire-chains will still kick my ass due to them being so inherently fast with that tendency to circle you. But at the same time, no one character is supposed to be able to handle everything!

Why cant a single character handle everything? :P Should there really be a time in the game where you have to basically quit the game, restart, and hope the RNG is kinder to you?
Sure, theres multiplayer, but thats a whole other area to complain about, considering you NEED to be online in order to play the game even by yourself.


And I dunno if the enrage timers are in Hell diff or not, but by the sounds of it youre pretty much doomed to be stuck on bosses unless you party up, because without enough DPS... well, sure, you can survive until the enrage timer happens, but you'll still get wiped by the boss when that timer is up. Which irritates me plenty, because there is NO need to restrict that tanky style of gameplay by putting in such a mechanic. Its ridiculous, really.

It's obviously not a single player game :P

It's a multiplayer game with a singleplayer mode.

Enemies in this game just have so much alpha damage. You can't reasonably tank without a major health regeneration pool going, usually 5-10% per second