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What's your favourite Trek movie?
13 years ago
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It's time for another happy little poll here at TrekFurs!
A while back, you may recall, we asked what your favourite Star Trek series was. And while our favourite space epic has a long and rich history on the small screen, it'd be remiss of us to forget the silver-screen entries into the saga, the cinematic adventures that bridged the gap between TOS and TNG, and continue to keep the tale going after ENT.
So! Which of the eleven movies gets your vote as the best of the lot? Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, First Contact? Do you hold to the belief of the odd-numbers curse, or do you reject Tim Bisley's philosophy in that regard? Do you favour J. J. Abrams' recent reboot, or do you belong to the old guard of classic Trek? Heck, we'll even take votes for Galaxy Quest if you're that way inclined!
Tally
1. The Motion Picture: 5
2. Wrath of Khan: 25
3. Search For Spock: 4
4. Voyage Home: 6
5. Final Frontier: 1
6. Undiscovered Country: 9
7. Generations: 5
8. First Contact: 18
9. Insurrection: 4
10. Nemesis: 2
11. Star Trek: 9
12. Into Darkness: 2
Galaxy Quest: 3
A while back, you may recall, we asked what your favourite Star Trek series was. And while our favourite space epic has a long and rich history on the small screen, it'd be remiss of us to forget the silver-screen entries into the saga, the cinematic adventures that bridged the gap between TOS and TNG, and continue to keep the tale going after ENT.
So! Which of the eleven movies gets your vote as the best of the lot? Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, First Contact? Do you hold to the belief of the odd-numbers curse, or do you reject Tim Bisley's philosophy in that regard? Do you favour J. J. Abrams' recent reboot, or do you belong to the old guard of classic Trek? Heck, we'll even take votes for Galaxy Quest if you're that way inclined!
Tally
1. The Motion Picture: 5
2. Wrath of Khan: 25
3. Search For Spock: 4
4. Voyage Home: 6
5. Final Frontier: 1
6. Undiscovered Country: 9
7. Generations: 5
8. First Contact: 18
9. Insurrection: 4
10. Nemesis: 2
11. Star Trek: 9
12. Into Darkness: 2
Galaxy Quest: 3
2,6 and the reboot are good and not all for the same reason.
I would go with the Motion Picture perhaps for its overall magnitude and because of that blaster beam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODGGuknvb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9xaO55LipQ
I'll also go with First Contact because the intensity of Picard's inner fight is well portrayed by Stewart.
"Assimilate this!"
I love the older movies, but I seriously believe the new one is the best one. It's not just a good Star Trek movie, it's a good movie in general and def one of the better sci-fi movies ever made.
My second is: The Voyage Home. Just cuz yes, whales.
It's... good but also boring... I mean, drawn out...
I really think 2001 is a lot more hype than it actually is a "great" movie. I felt that way about Clockwork Orange too...
I suppose it depends on what you want to take away from a film...
Star Trek was fun, paid homage to the old fans, had appeal for the new fans, had comedy, plenty of action, watchable...
For real: http://www.theonion.com/video/trekk.....tchable,14333/
I love Galaxy Quest; it's very funny, and a delicious send-up of Trekdom X3
Insurrection
Undiscovered Country
Generations (weird i cried in cinema when the enterprise was blown up)
Voyage Hoime
The Motion Picture
First Contact
Final Frontier
Wrath of Kahn
Nemesis
The Search of Spock
i normaly like them all, when i watch them then all 10
Star Trek IV
Star Trek First Contact
Star Trek 2009. I have to admit I didn't think I would like this one.
Live long and prosper \\//,
I've always though the older ones to be a bitt dull, like episodes stretched out to far.
Btw, this is highly recomended: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vi.....motion-picture
Least favourites... by far Insurrection and 2009
Prolly Insurrection though.
Nemesis makes me cry too much.
All the ♥'s for Data :'<
"Never saw the sun, shining so bright...never saw things going so right" AUGH DATA
ALL of those cutted out scenes would make the movie way better and give it way more sense...
I saw it when I was 8, maybe my parents thought it would be like The Motion Picture. Let's just way it made a big impression. Then I watched it again as an adult, and it was better than I remembered.
Haven't seen any Trek movies fully yet.
I have several issues with V, the most egregious being Spock's birth. Vulcans are a technical, logical people. Having a woman - even a human woman - deliver a baby in a torchlit cave without a hint of modern (for the time) medical equipment in evidence and only a midwife and the father in attendance seems to violate not only logic but Surak's philosophies regarding the preservation of life.
VI was awkward in a couple of places, but my only real issue with the movie is the fact that none of the starships involved in combat used energy weapons at all. No phasers, no disruptors, just torpedoes.
Generations felt like an outsized episode of TNG - for good and for ill.
Insurrection was ok, but the use of a Gravis Thunderbird joystick to control a Sovereign-class starship seems a bit dubious, at best.
As for New Trek, it was a good movie, but the New Kirk seems to be even more of a d-bag than the original; I've never made a secret of the fact that I prefer Picard.
Just a wuff's $.02 (not adjusted for inflation).
“He tasks me and I will have him.
In Sci-Fi, the hero and villain often work out their dramatic “relationship” between two distant spaceships. Not odd for us here back in the 21st Century where we nightly converse with our “friends” across the Internet while being separated perhaps by the width of an entire planet.
May we never become so blasé as to consider that fact less than miraculous.
My thoughts on the others.
ST TMP: waaaaaaaay to slow, and too much focus on effects. I remember watching this for the first time as a kid and being excited that this was going to be an awesome movie... and then it went on and on. One of my friend's told me we should do something else but I insisted on watching to the end because I thought something big HAD to happen after so much build up of how freaking huge V'ger is. I was in for a disappointment. The movie is pretty to look at though. I find it funny that James Doohan admits in his autobiography that he nearly fell asleep at this movie's premiere.
ST III TSfS: Ok for what it is, bringing Spock back. The scene of the Enterprise being stolen is probably the best part, and Kirk reluctantly setting the Enterprise to self destruct.
ST IV TVH: Funny as hell. Plus I live in the Bay Area and it's neat to visit places where the film was shot. Oh yeah, "Double dumbass on you!"
ST V TFF: sigh... if you must watch this, put on the Red Letter Media commentary along with it. http://redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/ It's kind of sad reading Shatner's behind the scenes books and seeing that he had some cool ideas, but it was all turned to shit in the end.
ST VI TUC: probably my second favorite of the first six movies. Lots of action and drama, it's a great finale to the original series movies.
ST Generations: I think this was the first Star Trek movie I saw in theaters, when I was 5. Well at that age I was just like OMG IT'S STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION AS A MOVIE! But as an adult it's just... meh. I don't really like it, but I don't hate it either. It just feels too much like an extended episode of the show. I still own some of the movie tie-in toys my parents got me as a kid, so I can't forget this movie completely.
ST First Contact: The best ST:TNG movie in my opinion. A fun action movie through and through and it's neat to time travel and see Zefram Cochrane.
ST Insurrection: At first I liked this one and the whole moral dilemma it had, but thinking about it more deeply it just comes off as pretty weak. I've been reading Michael Pillar's unpublished book Fade In about the making of the movie, and it just feels like Star Trek V all over again. There were some neat ideas initially but then it just got screwed over. The philosophy of the Baku that "We believe that when you create a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from the man" (this "something" is never explained) is just asinine and pretentious.
ST Nemesis: This movie is... ok I guess. It has some interesting ideas but it just doesn't have the weight or themes Star Trek II had. When I watched The Dark Knight Rises and heard Bane's "I was born in darkness..." speech, I just found it funny that he had almost the same backstory as Shinzon. And Tom Hardy plays both characters!
Star Trek 2009: Soft on plot? Yeah. But fun as hell! Really refreshing compared to Nemesis. I'm really awaiting Star Trek Into Darkness, especially since some scenes were filmed at the Livermore National Lab. I'm interested in finding out what they were doing.
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Note the two joysticks at image left…
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I work on those occasionally at my job at Motorola.
As for overall fave: KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! With the luxurious Corinthian leather!
Wrath of Khan is my second favorite though! It would be my first, but I love how First Contact is a far cry from Gene Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek. I mean, seriously, so much humor, drunkenness, and cynicism in that movie. It's all so very amusing. Gene Roddenberry would never have considered it! Don't get me wrong, he's still an amazing man. But his vision is like the grandpa of Star Trek. TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise are like the more lax parents and the latest reboot of Star Trek is still in it's infancy in terms of how they reflect upon the generation of today. Seriously, Into Darkness was more about relationships on Earth than it was exploring the galaxy. Just like comparing Star Trek TNG (and the rest of the TV series that followed) to Star Trek TOS, you can compare the many aspects of the latest movie reboot of the series to the TV series before it. You'll come to realize the things that were in the reboot that were unthinkable in the series of Star Trek shows before it, like a movie that focused on relationships over space exploration. DS9 kind of did that with the relationships the crew had with one another, but they were allowed to get away with it considering the show was meant to be more of a space sitcom than an action/adventure series. We fans expected that when we first heard news of Into Darkness and the possibility that the main villain was either Khan or maybe just maybe Gary Mitchell (Though that may add a bit too much fantasy over sci-fi which may upset some fans). So we were all rooting for him to be Khan. And as you know, none of The Wrath of Khan took place on Earth. It was all in space or on alien worlds. If the enemy was to be Khan, ultimately the fans wanted to see more of space and more alien worlds. Granted, they did a fantastic opening scene (With the exception of the ENTERPRISE FUNCTIONING UNDERWATER! This is unprecidented, because the closest we've ever had to an episode where ships went underwater is in the Voyager episode 30 Days, in which the Delta Flyer was capable of operating underwater. But that wasn't scoffed at because we considered it's futuristic design as a versatile ship. But seeing a Starship function underwater in Into Darkness was violently expanding the cannon in a way that makes us die hard fans uncomfortable. I won't nitpick at any other aspect of that movie aside from those two things. 1. That it focused on relationships over exploration. 2. That the Enterprise functioned underwater.
/rant
That scene with the parasites going into Chekov's ear still give me the willies and I first saw that like 28 years ago!!!
Now, assuming anyone actually is going to read down to here, also assuming there's any interest after the survey has been up for three years ........
I love and watch all of the original cast movies with an option to skate over The Final Frontier, maybe the only Star Trek original cast movie to outright embarrass The Teeming Millions of Trekkies/ers. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be The Undiscovered Country with Wrath of Khan a seriously close second, both movies were incredibly well done.
Ask me my least favorite movies and that list tops off with Nemesis , worst-Trek-movie-EVER!!. Insurrection ranks second-worst.
Galaxy Quest wasn't Star Trek but rather a parody of the original series actors and the fame they garnered whether they wanted it or not. But damn, it was a funny as hell movie.
Least:Hmm that's hard
Just kidding its that damn galaxy quest Star Trek ripoff thing WHY IS THAT EVEN LISTED HERE?
as for Star Wars, fav is the first half of Revenge of the Sith
my least fav Star Wars movie is the second half of Revenge of the Sith
As much as I loved Star Trek- the series, the movies were always a mixed bag at best. TNG has always fought it out in my heart for top-spot in the series contest but the movies, all of them, always felt like such a betrayal of the shows. Everything was darker and felt dumbed down, more or less. I know Johnathan Frakes stated that he "knew that the fans wanted to see them turned into action movies"... though I know I never wanted to see that. The characters all felt like they were acting very out of character from the series and continuity errors were rampant in them.
AUGH! ... but this is just bitching and avoiding the real point... Okay...
Favourite- I'll be an odd duck out here and go with "Five-The Final Frontier". I liked the development of the Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship into what it was. They really felt like old buddies who understood each other on a deeper level. They also knew they were getting older and the rules of life and the world were changing. The introduction of Sybok seemed a bit out of left field but I enjoyed his character nonetheless. Also, I know that Roddenberry always intended Trek to be showing the proof of an atheist Utopia in which scientific progress had eliminated most want and strife on Earth so religious tensions faded into obscurity but in ST5 we see that religion still exists and to some degree "belief" still gets in the way of "fact" and causes difficulty across multiple cultures, planets, species, even.
Least Favourite- I have to cop-out on this one and say it's a tie between "Star Trek- The Motion Picture" and "First Contact". TMP was just... boring... boring, boring, boring, boring, boring... so deathly boring... egads. There were so many scenes in that movie which could've/should've been cut down or just removed completely. It was very stylistic, sure but that style was dry, dull and devoid of substance. First Contact on the other hand was a total betrayal of what made TNG so very awesome. Picard, the enlightened thinker was reduced to a revenge-story action-man. Plot holes were all over that movie which tore holes in the continuity of the series you could drive a weinermobile through. Everything was so dark and overdone with that "trying too hard" aesthetic... just one big dumb action movie re-telling of a series built on strong characters, challenging ideas and creative storytelling.