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12 years ago
www.picklejuice13.com
Keeping in mind that out of 10,000 people who see your work, you are expected to have about ONE person willing to buy something from you, and I'm trying to make a living at doing art, I have
3,280,000 views - transfur - 8,000 per image historically, more recently 5000 views per image - 7000 watchers (est)
730,000 views - youtube - maybe around 10,000 views per video. - 290 subscribers
570,000 views - deviantart ---- about 1000 views per image - 1490 watchers
170,000 views - FA - with 1000 submissions ---- 170 views per image - 2400 watchers
36,000 views - picklejucie13.com (estimated) ---- 1000 views per image - 1000 users
? views - VCL - There are no stats on VCL.
? views - The Office Bitch at comicgenesis - 7500 views per image (est 2009 data)
? views - Subject To Change on comicgenesis - 3500 views per image (est 2009 data)
Unique views - I'm going to say that youtube is my biggest source of unique views, and the biggest video THERE was "dragonwish" which I sang, sketched, and animated - I did NOT color it. I was in Choir back in High School, but ... well, you can decide for yourself if people watched it because they like TF, or if they watched it to laugh.
If you consider the "views per image" as the most accurate UNIQUE viewers of the picklejuice name, then we're down to around 10,000 people, most of which are from Transfur, people already sold on the idea of TF.
It's certain that many watchers on FA are out of the fandom by now, as it's the oldest account I have of the 6 other than Transfur which is still going strong at 7000 viewers (estimated). It's also certain that there are cross-site watchers, perhaps 50%.
What does this all mean?
transfur is furry TF. A speciality of mine. People who are already "sold" on the idea of furry TF go here. It has historically had very high standards for art, and doesn't go for any "freaky" stuff, but DOES allow SOME adult stuff (completely behind closed doors, unless you subscribe) It also does not accept ANY "fan art" of any sorts. (last I checked.) About half of my art can't be put up there because of the policy. Maybe they're on to something, as they have the most views for me.
Youtube is the public. A couple of my videos went viral-ish and were seen by a lot of random non-fur,non-tf fans. It's very strictly PG only. It also cracks down a lot on fan-art.
Deviantart is the public. it's PG (mostly). It accepts fan art.
Public viewers are probably 80% interested, 20% mocking on DA, reverse that on youtube. It's worthwhile to post to both to garner new fur / TF fans.
FA is furry, but not specificly TF unless you search for it, and it's where I put a lot of adult artwork, and where I put fan art that's adult.
picklejuice13 is for fans of ME. Someone who went through the trouble to sick with me lo these 3 years of downed site problems, email problems, and broken store problems. Those 1000 watchers are also already "sold" on the idea of furry TF, PLUS they consider my art to not suck completely and should be pursued to an extent.
VCL has a link to a warning page about adult content. Otherwise it's 100% open to the public. It has restrictions on how many pictures you can upload in a week, and it was once the biggest furry archive in the world. I keep my most disturbing images there.
So. If I post to:
* transfur, I have to abide by strict "no freaky stuff" "no fan art" and "no sketches.", but I get 7000 potential viewers all ready to consume TF art.
* youtube, I have to abide by even more strict PG/no fan art, but I can put up sketch animations, and I'll have at least 290 people view it, possibly more if it goes viral.
* DA, I have to abide by loose PG standards, I can put up sketches and fan art, and with 1400 public watchers I'm possibly roping in brand new people to the fandom/ scarring them for life on the fandom
* FA, I can post nearly anything, and I have 2400 watchers.
* picklejucie13, I can post whatever I want with NO restrictions, and I have 1000 watchers who are the most valuable ones of all.
* VCL, I can also post just about whatever I want, but I have to jump through hoops to put more than 15 images up, and I have NO IDEA how many people are viewing ANY of my images.
My fans are mostly seeing me from Transfur, DA, and FA, which are all both PG and adult.
If I split up picklejuice13.com 's content into PG, shunting all the adult stuff to offbitch.com, I'm eliminating most of the draw the "picklejuice" name would have. However, "picklejuice" would be more like the other "public" places where it's PG, potentially drawing in more people. I'd be able to put up google ads and earn the massive $24 a year that the webcomic "professionals" advise is somehow a good thing. I'd be able to show it to my family and potential employers when/if drawing becomes something I can't use to support myself with. I'd be able to put Subject To Change front and center on the first page, and shake off the yoke of comicgenesis.
Although... it seems to have generated a lot of traffic for my webcomics, according to the old 2009 data. Perhaps I should find some way of updating those pages easier than my current method of laborously downloading, manually changing, and re-uploading.
So there's a lot to think about....
3,280,000 views - transfur - 8,000 per image historically, more recently 5000 views per image - 7000 watchers (est)
730,000 views - youtube - maybe around 10,000 views per video. - 290 subscribers
570,000 views - deviantart ---- about 1000 views per image - 1490 watchers
170,000 views - FA - with 1000 submissions ---- 170 views per image - 2400 watchers
36,000 views - picklejucie13.com (estimated) ---- 1000 views per image - 1000 users
? views - VCL - There are no stats on VCL.
? views - The Office Bitch at comicgenesis - 7500 views per image (est 2009 data)
? views - Subject To Change on comicgenesis - 3500 views per image (est 2009 data)
Unique views - I'm going to say that youtube is my biggest source of unique views, and the biggest video THERE was "dragonwish" which I sang, sketched, and animated - I did NOT color it. I was in Choir back in High School, but ... well, you can decide for yourself if people watched it because they like TF, or if they watched it to laugh.
If you consider the "views per image" as the most accurate UNIQUE viewers of the picklejuice name, then we're down to around 10,000 people, most of which are from Transfur, people already sold on the idea of TF.
It's certain that many watchers on FA are out of the fandom by now, as it's the oldest account I have of the 6 other than Transfur which is still going strong at 7000 viewers (estimated). It's also certain that there are cross-site watchers, perhaps 50%.
What does this all mean?
transfur is furry TF. A speciality of mine. People who are already "sold" on the idea of furry TF go here. It has historically had very high standards for art, and doesn't go for any "freaky" stuff, but DOES allow SOME adult stuff (completely behind closed doors, unless you subscribe) It also does not accept ANY "fan art" of any sorts. (last I checked.) About half of my art can't be put up there because of the policy. Maybe they're on to something, as they have the most views for me.
Youtube is the public. A couple of my videos went viral-ish and were seen by a lot of random non-fur,non-tf fans. It's very strictly PG only. It also cracks down a lot on fan-art.
Deviantart is the public. it's PG (mostly). It accepts fan art.
Public viewers are probably 80% interested, 20% mocking on DA, reverse that on youtube. It's worthwhile to post to both to garner new fur / TF fans.
FA is furry, but not specificly TF unless you search for it, and it's where I put a lot of adult artwork, and where I put fan art that's adult.
picklejuice13 is for fans of ME. Someone who went through the trouble to sick with me lo these 3 years of downed site problems, email problems, and broken store problems. Those 1000 watchers are also already "sold" on the idea of furry TF, PLUS they consider my art to not suck completely and should be pursued to an extent.
VCL has a link to a warning page about adult content. Otherwise it's 100% open to the public. It has restrictions on how many pictures you can upload in a week, and it was once the biggest furry archive in the world. I keep my most disturbing images there.
So. If I post to:
* transfur, I have to abide by strict "no freaky stuff" "no fan art" and "no sketches.", but I get 7000 potential viewers all ready to consume TF art.
* youtube, I have to abide by even more strict PG/no fan art, but I can put up sketch animations, and I'll have at least 290 people view it, possibly more if it goes viral.
* DA, I have to abide by loose PG standards, I can put up sketches and fan art, and with 1400 public watchers I'm possibly roping in brand new people to the fandom/ scarring them for life on the fandom
* FA, I can post nearly anything, and I have 2400 watchers.
* picklejucie13, I can post whatever I want with NO restrictions, and I have 1000 watchers who are the most valuable ones of all.
* VCL, I can also post just about whatever I want, but I have to jump through hoops to put more than 15 images up, and I have NO IDEA how many people are viewing ANY of my images.
My fans are mostly seeing me from Transfur, DA, and FA, which are all both PG and adult.
If I split up picklejuice13.com 's content into PG, shunting all the adult stuff to offbitch.com, I'm eliminating most of the draw the "picklejuice" name would have. However, "picklejuice" would be more like the other "public" places where it's PG, potentially drawing in more people. I'd be able to put up google ads and earn the massive $24 a year that the webcomic "professionals" advise is somehow a good thing. I'd be able to show it to my family and potential employers when/if drawing becomes something I can't use to support myself with. I'd be able to put Subject To Change front and center on the first page, and shake off the yoke of comicgenesis.
Although... it seems to have generated a lot of traffic for my webcomics, according to the old 2009 data. Perhaps I should find some way of updating those pages easier than my current method of laborously downloading, manually changing, and re-uploading.
So there's a lot to think about....
It's also good too, to learn all of the various mediums and have flexibility and can fully manage your image across all platforms. It can be fun and a source of pride too.
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