"A bull's penis similar to this one, intended for use as a cattle whip, was given to the museum's founder when he was a boy and sparked a lasting interest in penises."
I know. I have no idea why they call it the "wall of vaginas", since it is literally a wall of vulva... but eh, for some reason people have picked up calling it that.
But in either case, the whole package can be interesting for the female. (especially if going with fantasy/"furry" vulva's) Sadly a majority of artist never have that cross their mind though. But I mean like, just for totally random: Prehensile labia. Or corkscrew/ridged vagina xP (always always get disappoint on people's dragon characters, as almost always their males got "draconic" penises. And as a whole dissapoint that most go with that only males are allowed to have animal penises, that that's "just how it is", but females have to have the porn vulva, because it's the norm.)
Trailing off here a bit, but yeah... it's rather sad how narrow minded many are in regards to the female endowment. Heck, as said, many only think they "porn vulva" exists, that that's the only "normal" model. While only around 5 % have it, naturally that is. Sadly many circumcise today to get it. And trailing off again. But was neat to see that link, wasn't aware of it actually. Would be neat imo if more variation as a whole was the norm. See far too many axe wounds/magic marker vulva for females, and disproportionate/oversized penis for males. That, and few flaccid ones... speaking of which, few seem to be aware that girls also get a hard-on. And erf, derailed once more, sorry xP
It's because sex ed is pro-male. :p I don't know about you, but I never learned about the vulva in sex ed.
Actually, I'm doing a study of the reproductive system of my fursona! I try to be really realistic, as well as mix my own anatomy, so her uterus has "horns" like a rat's. So I see your point.
Haha, I totally relate! Penises and vulvas can be interesting in their own right and flaccid as well! (I think it'd be a little hard to illustrate a female erection, though, no pun intended. ;P)
Well, most things are kinda pro-male per say. And I basically learnt that it's where guys are supposed to stick their penises into, and ejaculate in. And that it's where spawns come from xD
Tbh, there's a ton that'd need to be taught in sex ed. Like the large variation of genital looks. How to masturbate, how to avoid infections, (like, some think it's okay to go anal to vaginal... mostly since they don't end up with the yeast infection I think tbh... otherwise they'd care more.) maybe even about the female ejaculation, sexual orientation and the like. Just actual useful shits and giggles.
And that's really neat tbh. I've sorta done the same with mine. Cept I took the fantasy route... because I couldn't find shizz about pink fairy armadillo's vulva's, or what they contained x3 So, she just got a more "draconic"-ish vulva. Kept it basic though. But like said, one can really throw in quite a number of anatomical things in the mix. Like a dolphins prehensile vagina xD Also, didn't know a rat's uterus has horns heh. Personally get "fff-" everytime I see someone mismatch equine genitals. Especially with all the ponies around. I mean come on: It can't be that hard to make them match. Especially not as they literally are craving a equine vulva with how they "want it". Smooth, slim and compact. That LITERALLY IS what a equine vulva looks like, if they go with the most "smooth" type, which they could... but yeah, especially with how a huge majority I've seen say it'd look retarded with a human penis on a pony, yet don't seem to grasp the concept of double moral. Or what to call it. Same goes for the lack of mottling. Had one artist that had a huge hardon for it on the males, then threw a hissy fit over when asked if they planned to do it on their females, and how they were gross and whatnot. And trailed off a bit here, heh. But actually working (once I can get my collab partner...) on a thing that will deal with all those as a sort of "prod" to the whole deal. Oh, and a last thing about genital designs: Find it really "bleh" when someone don't include a vulva ref in a characters ref sheet (only if they did for their male chars), especially if combined with the "everyone knows how it looks like" or "It's a normal one". Or if it's a herm. As then it kinda confuses if it's a shemale or herm. Oh, and people that put a length of their characters penis, but no height on them xD Because that does much. Or when they don't put a depth on the vag, or length of the lips. Since like, otherwise it's mostly pointless to have a penis size.
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(actually know an artist that threw a huge whining fit about that, they had canine penis on their male char, and stated it was a natural/normal penis. And she didn't speak of the female one, when a person that was doing a trade for it, they had to ask around 7 times as they hummed and hawed with "it's clear as day" and whatnot, but finally was squeezed out that "it's normal/natural", and said artist having been given the male ref, that stated that the characters "normal/natural" penis, was a canine penis, what conclusion would you take? If you took the same as me, it'd be a canine vulva, yes? Well, apparently that was a grave mistake, and the artist that owned the character flipped tables, ranting and complaining about how they could draw something as disgusting as that, along with how they "dared to accuse them of being a zoophile", because that apparently only counts with female animals... actually seen several people make that conclusion. Oh, and also know one popfur that stated that "the female genital has nothing to do with female anatomy or female character design", and all her followers blindly agreed like the sheep they were... she also thought the female genital was too unimportant, and gross to ever mention, so even typing them out in a ref should was obscene, anyone that was going to draw her character had to look through her entire gallery for her 1 picture of it... said character was also an alien species which males had a unique penis that required a unique vagina to even work, but no, to her, none cared about vulva, only penises mattered... speaking of which, once got blocked by an artist because I didn't praise penis for how amazing it is, and for how I dared to even speak about the female genital.)
Yeah. Personally get a bit sick off the constant "the same" looks most go with. All guys need to be erect 24/7, and none can have a smaller penis than 50 % above the average. And all girls have to have the 5 % juvenile model. Porn would be a ton better with the norms or stereotypes. And as for female erections, they are not that hard tbh (pun intended xP), literally, a bit, but not technically when it comes to drawing. It's somewhat simply signs if you know what to aim for. Wikipedia shows a quite good example of it. but yes, it's more subtle than the male. And welp, trailed off quite a bit, sorry about that ^=^'
... I love you. ;_; I've been saying this sort of thing for years. xD
It kinda makes me feel like I'm not unique, though, because my vulva does rather look like they typical pornstar's (short labia minora and whatnot)... but I guess it is statistically, eh? XD It's part of the reason I did my reproductive study, in case someone decided to draw my fursona's vulva.
Haha, thanks xD I've been doing the same actually.
Technically all vulva's (and penises) are unique :3 and the typical "normal" porn star got a "perfectly" smooth/juvenile, less than 0,5 cm labia and fully symmetric shape. And to what I know, it's statistically. It differs here and there from country to country. And tbh, I can't recall why I started mine delving into vag myself haha. I think it was partly due to feeling "left out" when there was pretty much not a single porn made for females. Like, where was our first person oral flashes and whatnot? x3 And I personally made my own characters vulva based off mine, with some fantasy elements added. Because hey: if guys can do it. Plus, I see no reason why I should assimilate to the norm just to please someone else. It just helps enforce the negative stereotype, and in that: depression and whatnot. (and in addition, I do have to be a bit bias and say that I actually prefer a bit more endowed women, more can be done with longer lips :3 But that said, I don't mind any size or shape, (excluding circumcised and "infected", later applies to penises too) and that bias is mainly due to that I got big ones, and am used to them. Hope I didn't trail off heh.) But yeah, a vulva ref is imo nice. Since like said; not everyone got the generic porn one.
I based my fursona's off my own and rat, just like the rest of her. :3 I personally don't like it when people throw stuff on the penis just because. Not every species has a knot. >:C
Same here... cept I had to go (or well, wanted to to not have a human one, and to increase the unique vulva amount) with fantasy as there was nothing on armadillo vag x3
And yeah, I find it stupid personally. I mean, it's there to co-op with the vulva, and make sense with it. "Inexplicable horse penis" is a common thing tbh. And personally get ticked when someone goes "They're antrho, they can have either or a mix" as an excuse to flip-flop/mismatch. Yes, they could have ex: Canine or human, but BOTH genders ought to have the same, otherwise it doesn't really do shit, and the genitals aren't even built for each other, nor "matches/works". A knot for example has nowhere to "dock" too as the "hook" triangle isn't there. Imo, if you want the cake, you have to eat it too don't be freaking half assed... tbh, always found that expression odd. What else would you do with a cake than eat it?
Well, it's actually "You can't have your cake and eat it too," and here's its explanation. I think that it should be a mix, just like anthros are, and have more traits of which ever side of the anthro is more dominate.
Ah, okies. Now it makes more sense to me heh. And yeah, I personally am fond of hybrids. but like said, whenever I see an antrho (or ESPECIALLY feral) with like; fully anatomically accurate equine penis, then the female got some magic marker or axe wound... not even having a taint... that's just so... ugh... really want to slap them in the face or overall show them how the opposite would look. Think ones that draw herms annoy me the most (in those cases) because then the vulva suddenly is given a taint, despite that "it couldn't have it" before... it's still a magic marker, but honestly: why would they have different anuses to start with? Gah, I don't understand people that blindly follow the norm.
I think you'd appreciate tojo-the-thief's work, who does herms as females with penis-clitoruses (I'd never seen herms like that before, very realistic!) when she can choose to, and ecmajor's work, who just does stinkin GOOD vulvas! Mind you, most of it is clop these days, but I find I can get over that because of just how GOOD his art is!
Actually unfollowed them a while ago. Think it was either due to lack of variation of content, or due to lack of variation in vulva designs... not sure which. But they seem the 2 most common heh. I think I recall said herms though.
As for EC, I know of them and really love their work. Even if they at times do the vulva's a tad bit small... and monotone. (not to mention that they're sort of identical most of the time) And I can't recall them doing any clop, just borderline clop in terms of nudity. But yeah, it's really neat :3
She has a lot of penises, not so much vuvla (she's not comfortable with her ability to draw them and does mostly commission work)... but I have adult images blocked, so it works out in the end. XD
They are pretty much similar; the nudity is what I was referring to. :3 Check out my "favorite artists" journal, I have all my fav artists for their talent there.
That sorta goes with the porn norm actually, penis is more "common" per say. It's much harder for people to be willing to try drawing vulva's sadly. And welp, that works I guess hehe.
And I might :3 And I personally judge an artists "skill" based on their ability to draw something, and their counterpart. So, if someone draws HD, cellshaded cocks, but can't draw cunts for shit, I rate them both at the lowest artistic level. Know quite a few "complain" on that "method", but eh, tbh, it makes sense to me, and feels sorta fair. It's late, I might ramble some ^=^'
I meant that mainly in terms of as a whole. Personally would love to see more flaccid vulvae and penises. Part of why I like EC's stuff. They often have a more of a "yeah, it's there. It's anatomy." take to it. But in that regard as well, erect vulva's are really hard to come by. At least once that know that subtle, yet notable difference heh.
A very simple difference showing is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F.....al_arousal.JPG
But from what I can recall, the erectile tissue becomes engorged, so the clit goes stiff, pulling the hood back a bit, and the sides/mound of the vulva swells up a bit, along with the rest of the vulva, and darkens a bit a color due to the extra blood. It becomes more moist than normal, the vagina elongates and a bunch of other things happen. So, if you feel like noticing the sorta subtle things, just take some time when your package is limp/resting/flaccid, use a mirror or a acrobatic pose and get a good view of it, then get hard and watch the differences.
I thought I seen them all in regards to men and clearly hadn't (*blushes*)
But the women, I had NO idea of the variations amongst us
Learn something new everyday =3
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Thanks for that link...
I had no idea there was different names for different head types...
Learn something new everyday!
... guess "the wall of vagina" might technically count... but eh, I dunno x3
But in either case, the whole package can be interesting for the female. (especially if going with fantasy/"furry" vulva's) Sadly a majority of artist never have that cross their mind though. But I mean like, just for totally random: Prehensile labia. Or corkscrew/ridged vagina xP (always always get disappoint on people's dragon characters, as almost always their males got "draconic" penises. And as a whole dissapoint that most go with that only males are allowed to have animal penises, that that's "just how it is", but females have to have the porn vulva, because it's the norm.)
Trailing off here a bit, but yeah... it's rather sad how narrow minded many are in regards to the female endowment. Heck, as said, many only think they "porn vulva" exists, that that's the only "normal" model. While only around 5 % have it, naturally that is. Sadly many circumcise today to get it. And trailing off again. But was neat to see that link, wasn't aware of it actually. Would be neat imo if more variation as a whole was the norm. See far too many axe wounds/magic marker vulva for females, and disproportionate/oversized penis for males. That, and few flaccid ones... speaking of which, few seem to be aware that girls also get a hard-on. And erf, derailed once more, sorry xP
Actually, I'm doing a study of the reproductive system of my fursona! I try to be really realistic, as well as mix my own anatomy, so her uterus has "horns" like a rat's. So I see your point.
Haha, I totally relate! Penises and vulvas can be interesting in their own right and flaccid as well! (I think it'd be a little hard to illustrate a female erection, though, no pun intended. ;P)
Tbh, there's a ton that'd need to be taught in sex ed. Like the large variation of genital looks. How to masturbate, how to avoid infections, (like, some think it's okay to go anal to vaginal... mostly since they don't end up with the yeast infection I think tbh... otherwise they'd care more.) maybe even about the female ejaculation, sexual orientation and the like. Just actual useful shits and giggles.
And that's really neat tbh. I've sorta done the same with mine. Cept I took the fantasy route... because I couldn't find shizz about pink fairy armadillo's vulva's, or what they contained x3 So, she just got a more "draconic"-ish vulva. Kept it basic though. But like said, one can really throw in quite a number of anatomical things in the mix. Like a dolphins prehensile vagina xD Also, didn't know a rat's uterus has horns heh. Personally get "fff-" everytime I see someone mismatch equine genitals. Especially with all the ponies around. I mean come on: It can't be that hard to make them match. Especially not as they literally are craving a equine vulva with how they "want it". Smooth, slim and compact. That LITERALLY IS what a equine vulva looks like, if they go with the most "smooth" type, which they could... but yeah, especially with how a huge majority I've seen say it'd look retarded with a human penis on a pony, yet don't seem to grasp the concept of double moral. Or what to call it. Same goes for the lack of mottling. Had one artist that had a huge hardon for it on the males, then threw a hissy fit over when asked if they planned to do it on their females, and how they were gross and whatnot. And trailed off a bit here, heh. But actually working (once I can get my collab partner...) on a thing that will deal with all those as a sort of "prod" to the whole deal. Oh, and a last thing about genital designs: Find it really "bleh" when someone don't include a vulva ref in a characters ref sheet (only if they did for their male chars), especially if combined with the "everyone knows how it looks like" or "It's a normal one". Or if it's a herm. As then it kinda confuses if it's a shemale or herm. Oh, and people that put a length of their characters penis, but no height on them xD Because that does much. Or when they don't put a depth on the vag, or length of the lips. Since like, otherwise it's mostly pointless to have a penis size.
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(actually know an artist that threw a huge whining fit about that, they had canine penis on their male char, and stated it was a natural/normal penis. And she didn't speak of the female one, when a person that was doing a trade for it, they had to ask around 7 times as they hummed and hawed with "it's clear as day" and whatnot, but finally was squeezed out that "it's normal/natural", and said artist having been given the male ref, that stated that the characters "normal/natural" penis, was a canine penis, what conclusion would you take? If you took the same as me, it'd be a canine vulva, yes? Well, apparently that was a grave mistake, and the artist that owned the character flipped tables, ranting and complaining about how they could draw something as disgusting as that, along with how they "dared to accuse them of being a zoophile", because that apparently only counts with female animals... actually seen several people make that conclusion. Oh, and also know one popfur that stated that "the female genital has nothing to do with female anatomy or female character design", and all her followers blindly agreed like the sheep they were... she also thought the female genital was too unimportant, and gross to ever mention, so even typing them out in a ref should was obscene, anyone that was going to draw her character had to look through her entire gallery for her 1 picture of it... said character was also an alien species which males had a unique penis that required a unique vagina to even work, but no, to her, none cared about vulva, only penises mattered... speaking of which, once got blocked by an artist because I didn't praise penis for how amazing it is, and for how I dared to even speak about the female genital.)
Yeah. Personally get a bit sick off the constant "the same" looks most go with. All guys need to be erect 24/7, and none can have a smaller penis than 50 % above the average. And all girls have to have the 5 % juvenile model. Porn would be a ton better with the norms or stereotypes. And as for female erections, they are not that hard tbh (pun intended xP), literally, a bit, but not technically when it comes to drawing. It's somewhat simply signs if you know what to aim for. Wikipedia shows a quite good example of it. but yes, it's more subtle than the male. And welp, trailed off quite a bit, sorry about that ^=^'
It kinda makes me feel like I'm not unique, though, because my vulva does rather look like they typical pornstar's (short labia minora and whatnot)... but I guess it is statistically, eh? XD It's part of the reason I did my reproductive study, in case someone decided to draw my fursona's vulva.
Technically all vulva's (and penises) are unique :3 and the typical "normal" porn star got a "perfectly" smooth/juvenile, less than 0,5 cm labia and fully symmetric shape. And to what I know, it's statistically. It differs here and there from country to country. And tbh, I can't recall why I started mine delving into vag myself haha. I think it was partly due to feeling "left out" when there was pretty much not a single porn made for females. Like, where was our first person oral flashes and whatnot? x3 And I personally made my own characters vulva based off mine, with some fantasy elements added. Because hey: if guys can do it. Plus, I see no reason why I should assimilate to the norm just to please someone else. It just helps enforce the negative stereotype, and in that: depression and whatnot. (and in addition, I do have to be a bit bias and say that I actually prefer a bit more endowed women, more can be done with longer lips :3 But that said, I don't mind any size or shape, (excluding circumcised and "infected", later applies to penises too) and that bias is mainly due to that I got big ones, and am used to them. Hope I didn't trail off heh.) But yeah, a vulva ref is imo nice. Since like said; not everyone got the generic porn one.
And yeah, I find it stupid personally. I mean, it's there to co-op with the vulva, and make sense with it. "Inexplicable horse penis" is a common thing tbh. And personally get ticked when someone goes "They're antrho, they can have either or a mix" as an excuse to flip-flop/mismatch. Yes, they could have ex: Canine or human, but BOTH genders ought to have the same, otherwise it doesn't really do shit, and the genitals aren't even built for each other, nor "matches/works". A knot for example has nowhere to "dock" too as the "hook" triangle isn't there. Imo, if you want the cake, you have to eat it too don't be freaking half assed... tbh, always found that expression odd. What else would you do with a cake than eat it?
As for EC, I know of them and really love their work. Even if they at times do the vulva's a tad bit small... and monotone. (not to mention that they're sort of identical most of the time) And I can't recall them doing any clop, just borderline clop in terms of nudity. But yeah, it's really neat :3
They are pretty much similar; the nudity is what I was referring to. :3 Check out my "favorite artists" journal, I have all my fav artists for their talent there.
And I might :3 And I personally judge an artists "skill" based on their ability to draw something, and their counterpart. So, if someone draws HD, cellshaded cocks, but can't draw cunts for shit, I rate them both at the lowest artistic level. Know quite a few "complain" on that "method", but eh, tbh, it makes sense to me, and feels sorta fair. It's late, I might ramble some ^=^'
But from what I can recall, the erectile tissue becomes engorged, so the clit goes stiff, pulling the hood back a bit, and the sides/mound of the vulva swells up a bit, along with the rest of the vulva, and darkens a bit a color due to the extra blood. It becomes more moist than normal, the vagina elongates and a bunch of other things happen. So, if you feel like noticing the sorta subtle things, just take some time when your package is limp/resting/flaccid, use a mirror or a acrobatic pose and get a good view of it, then get hard and watch the differences.
Same with our orgasm, if you watch the vulva, you can clearly see the contractions even from the outside ;3
But the women, I had NO idea of the variations amongst us
Learn something new everyday =3