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Man of Steel? ShYeah right
12 years ago
So I watched Man of Steel this week and I gotta say, Superman2 was better.
I watched Superman and Superman2 the night before to amp myself up for The Man of Steel. That it did! Then I watched MoS and well I really liked it, but over the course of the passed few days more and more nagging issues keep cropping up. To the point where I genuinely feel like they ought to have asked Terrence Stamp back for Zod. Because believe me, you will NEVER forget that man's performance, and God help me I never want to.
Okay to those who haven't seen Man Of Steel BEWARE MU-FUCKING SPOILERS!!!!!!!
Superman2 has it's fair share of problems I certainly recognise. But by far it is a better film than Man of Steel. That's right I said it!!
Not that I'm dissing Man Of Steel, I'm not but from a story point of view there was a lot of glaring problems.
2 scenes dealing with the exact same exposition. TMNT(2007) had the same problem the
opening scene explained who Zod was, what he did, the fall of Krypton and so on.
Then we get it again from Jor-El when he lectures Clark. Just intercut the intro scene with
Jor-el's lecture and save us the agony!
-Why did Zod want to destroy Earth again? When he pitches up Clark goes with him without a
fight. If he wanted to save Krypton there was a planet called Mars not too far away. Strike a
deal with Supes, colonise Mars and walk away. As far as him being bitter towards the house
of EL..Eh..it didn't really feel like that was the driving force behind his actions. He keeps
talking about how he is the protector of Krypton. Nothing really about getting even with Supes
in the beginning of the film.
-How do Kryptonian's powers work exactly? They said it was mostly to do with the
atmosphere..so why in fuck's name would you Terraform the planet and become weaker
beings? Also how long does it take for a Kryptonian to lose his powers? I certainly don't buy
that one breath of Krypton's air could make you as weak as a human.
-Superman was never fleshed out. Oh sure Clark was fully explored, but Superman, not so
much. See I understand why Clark had to keep his identity secret. I understand the he's
burdened with his powers. Multidimensional that Clark Kent. But Superman? I don't know
who he was. This Superman doesn't feel like a guy who will take time out to rescue a cat out
of a tree. He barely rescued anyone directly while in the suit. Do a body count. Clark saved
more lives as a working hobo than he did in the last half hour as a superhero. He had a
charm to him, but he wasn't charming.
-The killing of Zod. Now this is somewhat connected with the above statement. How can I be
angry with Zod's death when he helped kill the last dozen or so Kryptonians on that
ship(including that one hot looking soldier who escorts Lios to the ship's 'cabin'-no it wasnt
Faora-she had a ponytail)? Simple they were part of the massive disaster movie scale
collateral damage. No, no. This was different. He snaps Zod's neck because he was going to
kill some family. You know what I thought was going to happen? Something like Clark would
put his hands over Zods eyes and take off into the stratosphere. Maybe Zod would keep trying
to burn through his hands and end up blinding himself. Because you know what? Clark lived
his whole life on earth, goddammit, he should be like 10 times stronger than Zod, because his
cells 'drank in the radiation' of earth's sun, so his hands wouldn't be burnt through! That
was just lazy.
-Kiss me Clark, no, move your head to the left, no your other left, wait, have you done
this before? The most awkward in movie history. You could cut the awkwardness with a
..a..bazooka. That thick! At this point in the story Lois and Clark are good friends. They
understand and trust each other. They never even gave each other loving glances. It
was badly written.
-The Justice League movie? Nope. They blew their load with this one. Superman is the most
powerful being in the DCU, that doesn't mean he's an SSJ4!! If Akira Toriyama Start
Dragon Ball with Goku at SSJ3 and then said he's going to team up with 7 characters all of
whom are weaker, would you care? The bar has been raised to the point that when A Justice
League movie comes out the fight scenes will be so intense pregnant women 3 cinemas
away will give birth, children will grow into full adults and comic fans everywhere will cover
the cinema screens with so much jizz that it would end super hero comics forever! And not
because no one would be able to capture the same magic, because the cleaning of that
much jizz will be enough to drive anyone insane...just ask yo momma!!! Boooyah!!!
It felt like the movie wanted to make Kryptonians and their gear so credible that they left out the key ingredients to a Superman movie. Now, I may sound like this movie was the pits, but I like it. I'm sure my second viewing will be better. The fight scenes were amazing, a bit hard to follow, but amazing. My favourite bits were the flash back scenes. Very poignant, engrossing and tear-jerking. Kevin Costner..I want you to be my dad. The movie just concentrated on things that really weren't necessary. Honestly, why try to ground the movie in gritty realism? He's Superman, he should be a little tongue in cheek, cheesy and slightly(slightly, I say) camp. Because he's fighting for things that nowadays most people find fault with and laugh at because they're childish. It's great that he fights for truth, justice and the American way, because no one else is. These are indeed ideals for an ordinary person to strive for, albeit overly patriotic, but when that's said it comes from an innocent frame of mind. Where you make a choice to see nothing but the good in people and then fight for it. And who better to bring back hope and faith in these things than Superman.
ps Sorry for the long journal. It got away from me hehe
I watched Superman and Superman2 the night before to amp myself up for The Man of Steel. That it did! Then I watched MoS and well I really liked it, but over the course of the passed few days more and more nagging issues keep cropping up. To the point where I genuinely feel like they ought to have asked Terrence Stamp back for Zod. Because believe me, you will NEVER forget that man's performance, and God help me I never want to.
Okay to those who haven't seen Man Of Steel BEWARE MU-FUCKING SPOILERS!!!!!!!
Superman2 has it's fair share of problems I certainly recognise. But by far it is a better film than Man of Steel. That's right I said it!!
Not that I'm dissing Man Of Steel, I'm not but from a story point of view there was a lot of glaring problems.
2 scenes dealing with the exact same exposition. TMNT(2007) had the same problem the
opening scene explained who Zod was, what he did, the fall of Krypton and so on.
Then we get it again from Jor-El when he lectures Clark. Just intercut the intro scene with
Jor-el's lecture and save us the agony!
-Why did Zod want to destroy Earth again? When he pitches up Clark goes with him without a
fight. If he wanted to save Krypton there was a planet called Mars not too far away. Strike a
deal with Supes, colonise Mars and walk away. As far as him being bitter towards the house
of EL..Eh..it didn't really feel like that was the driving force behind his actions. He keeps
talking about how he is the protector of Krypton. Nothing really about getting even with Supes
in the beginning of the film.
-How do Kryptonian's powers work exactly? They said it was mostly to do with the
atmosphere..so why in fuck's name would you Terraform the planet and become weaker
beings? Also how long does it take for a Kryptonian to lose his powers? I certainly don't buy
that one breath of Krypton's air could make you as weak as a human.
-Superman was never fleshed out. Oh sure Clark was fully explored, but Superman, not so
much. See I understand why Clark had to keep his identity secret. I understand the he's
burdened with his powers. Multidimensional that Clark Kent. But Superman? I don't know
who he was. This Superman doesn't feel like a guy who will take time out to rescue a cat out
of a tree. He barely rescued anyone directly while in the suit. Do a body count. Clark saved
more lives as a working hobo than he did in the last half hour as a superhero. He had a
charm to him, but he wasn't charming.
-The killing of Zod. Now this is somewhat connected with the above statement. How can I be
angry with Zod's death when he helped kill the last dozen or so Kryptonians on that
ship(including that one hot looking soldier who escorts Lios to the ship's 'cabin'-no it wasnt
Faora-she had a ponytail)? Simple they were part of the massive disaster movie scale
collateral damage. No, no. This was different. He snaps Zod's neck because he was going to
kill some family. You know what I thought was going to happen? Something like Clark would
put his hands over Zods eyes and take off into the stratosphere. Maybe Zod would keep trying
to burn through his hands and end up blinding himself. Because you know what? Clark lived
his whole life on earth, goddammit, he should be like 10 times stronger than Zod, because his
cells 'drank in the radiation' of earth's sun, so his hands wouldn't be burnt through! That
was just lazy.
-Kiss me Clark, no, move your head to the left, no your other left, wait, have you done
this before? The most awkward in movie history. You could cut the awkwardness with a
..a..bazooka. That thick! At this point in the story Lois and Clark are good friends. They
understand and trust each other. They never even gave each other loving glances. It
was badly written.
-The Justice League movie? Nope. They blew their load with this one. Superman is the most
powerful being in the DCU, that doesn't mean he's an SSJ4!! If Akira Toriyama Start
Dragon Ball with Goku at SSJ3 and then said he's going to team up with 7 characters all of
whom are weaker, would you care? The bar has been raised to the point that when A Justice
League movie comes out the fight scenes will be so intense pregnant women 3 cinemas
away will give birth, children will grow into full adults and comic fans everywhere will cover
the cinema screens with so much jizz that it would end super hero comics forever! And not
because no one would be able to capture the same magic, because the cleaning of that
much jizz will be enough to drive anyone insane...just ask yo momma!!! Boooyah!!!
It felt like the movie wanted to make Kryptonians and their gear so credible that they left out the key ingredients to a Superman movie. Now, I may sound like this movie was the pits, but I like it. I'm sure my second viewing will be better. The fight scenes were amazing, a bit hard to follow, but amazing. My favourite bits were the flash back scenes. Very poignant, engrossing and tear-jerking. Kevin Costner..I want you to be my dad. The movie just concentrated on things that really weren't necessary. Honestly, why try to ground the movie in gritty realism? He's Superman, he should be a little tongue in cheek, cheesy and slightly(slightly, I say) camp. Because he's fighting for things that nowadays most people find fault with and laugh at because they're childish. It's great that he fights for truth, justice and the American way, because no one else is. These are indeed ideals for an ordinary person to strive for, albeit overly patriotic, but when that's said it comes from an innocent frame of mind. Where you make a choice to see nothing but the good in people and then fight for it. And who better to bring back hope and faith in these things than Superman.
ps Sorry for the long journal. It got away from me hehe
I would say you should go see it. I went in for the action.
It was great stuff. Just those things burned into my mind-brain
When in truth? Those were the very *reasons* the remake sucked, and I prefer the Romero original.
Funny how a lot of the remakes are of films that the critics panned in the reviews of the original films, and now those same critics call them classics years later. :)
In the case of "Man of Steel"? Pfft. I think I'll wait for the home video version. I haven't seen it yet. I'm with Onyx...and wouldn't you know it? I have Donner's Superman...and the Donner cut of Superman II(which was SOOOO much better than the Richard Lester version that made it to theaters)...on Blu-Ray loan from Netflix. :)
Man, you just can't make 'em better than when Superman hit theaters the first time around, no? :)
What say you?
To give an example...
In Lester's Superman II, it opens with that nuclear bomb threat in Paris as a plot device to free Zod and his pals from the Phantom Zone.
Donner's version, however, has a much, MUCH tighter version. Remember the nuke Superman re-directs to outer space in the first Superman movie, before he zips over to the wreckage of Lois's car? THAT is the nuke that frees Team Zod from the Zone.
The means by which Lois figures out that Clark is Superman is also radically different from Lester's version.
See...Donner was initially tapped by producers Alex and Illya Salkind to do the sequel, but he was fired(unwisely) after shooting many key scenes which made it into the finished film. A lot of the silly sequences, plus the opening in France, were the by-product of replacement director Lester. Far too much unnecessary comedy(such as the guy speaking in the phone booth as Zod's trio uses super-breath on the people of Metropolis) was due to Lester's direction.
Be advised, though...the Donner cut uses several unfinished scenes, and some unpolished CGI is used to fill in the blanks Donner left when he was forced out.
But if you liked the first film, I think you'll enjoy the Donner cut. :)
I'll have to push to get it and watch it
They treated him like her was a normal guy. Which was really awesome.
I watched them before Man of Steel and yeah the the special effects feel a bit hokey but I really respect them more than the Man of Steel.