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How is nintedo a viable company?
12 years ago
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I mean seriously... the nintendo staple titles are rehashes of the same thing they were when they were first created.
Super Mario:
OH NO! THE PRINCESS HAS BEEN CAPTURED BY BOWSER.... again...
Seriously? I think she has a bondage fetish, as much as she has been captured in the 27 some odd Mario titles... Collect the coins, get the mushrooms and save the princess.... *Yawn* It the same rehashed shit from 1983, just graphically updated. Why can't mario take a lesson from Marcus Pheonix and curb stomp some bowser face? Crack some skulls in half? That way the princess can't find anywhere to get her bondage fill and commits suicide and we get to see some sweet mario and luigi incest? Seriously....
Zelda:
The princess has been... Wait.... Why can't the lead character give their bitches some strange and fuck their brains out so they don't do stupid shit anymore? It seems like princesses and bondage are some sort of subliminal meaning. Instead of coins, it's roofies, and you have to collect your gear, which seems to dematerialize after you give Gannondorf the old Disney send off, so he may return for ANOTHER TRI-FORCE SEEKING SEQUEL....
Pokemon:
THe first and second gens were good, and original. But like a dry cow they have now have run out of steam and are using real life things to make new pokemon. Just change a few vowels or add constiants, NEW POKEMON, CHER, Its a four legged wooden seating device. NEW POKEMON, COOP, its a cylindrical type pokemon that you can store water in. WHEN WILL IT END?? Also, are you to tell me that 10000000 new pokemon have eluded sight until recently? That there are undiscovered, yet fully civilized settlements on new lands, or do houses come in pill form now. Shitting out entire villages in the time it takes to have an effective bowel movement? The cow udders are bleeding and our disbelief can only be suspended so far.
With the big titles for Nintendo just re-hashes of the previous games, I cannot see them sticking around any longer. The Wee consoles are meant for younger kids, admit it. There hasn't been anything ground breaking on the nintedo consoles for years. They just eat the shit that is mario/zelda and wait for it to come out the other end to publish it.
Nintedo, here's some news, 3-d was tried before, it didn't catch on and the headaches from it are not helping.
How to revitalize Nintendo Wii on U? Come out with playboy, and a custom fleshlight holder for the controllers. The fans will come to your console then...
Otherwise, nintedo, you are moot and disposable illegitimate console for the pre-pubescent... I will enjoy watching your company sink into the sea you Titanic mistake
Super Mario:
OH NO! THE PRINCESS HAS BEEN CAPTURED BY BOWSER.... again...
Seriously? I think she has a bondage fetish, as much as she has been captured in the 27 some odd Mario titles... Collect the coins, get the mushrooms and save the princess.... *Yawn* It the same rehashed shit from 1983, just graphically updated. Why can't mario take a lesson from Marcus Pheonix and curb stomp some bowser face? Crack some skulls in half? That way the princess can't find anywhere to get her bondage fill and commits suicide and we get to see some sweet mario and luigi incest? Seriously....
Zelda:
The princess has been... Wait.... Why can't the lead character give their bitches some strange and fuck their brains out so they don't do stupid shit anymore? It seems like princesses and bondage are some sort of subliminal meaning. Instead of coins, it's roofies, and you have to collect your gear, which seems to dematerialize after you give Gannondorf the old Disney send off, so he may return for ANOTHER TRI-FORCE SEEKING SEQUEL....
Pokemon:
THe first and second gens were good, and original. But like a dry cow they have now have run out of steam and are using real life things to make new pokemon. Just change a few vowels or add constiants, NEW POKEMON, CHER, Its a four legged wooden seating device. NEW POKEMON, COOP, its a cylindrical type pokemon that you can store water in. WHEN WILL IT END?? Also, are you to tell me that 10000000 new pokemon have eluded sight until recently? That there are undiscovered, yet fully civilized settlements on new lands, or do houses come in pill form now. Shitting out entire villages in the time it takes to have an effective bowel movement? The cow udders are bleeding and our disbelief can only be suspended so far.
With the big titles for Nintendo just re-hashes of the previous games, I cannot see them sticking around any longer. The Wee consoles are meant for younger kids, admit it. There hasn't been anything ground breaking on the nintedo consoles for years. They just eat the shit that is mario/zelda and wait for it to come out the other end to publish it.
Nintedo, here's some news, 3-d was tried before, it didn't catch on and the headaches from it are not helping.
How to revitalize Nintendo Wii on U? Come out with playboy, and a custom fleshlight holder for the controllers. The fans will come to your console then...
Otherwise, nintedo, you are moot and disposable illegitimate console for the pre-pubescent... I will enjoy watching your company sink into the sea you Titanic mistake
Business model.
Let's view it from a different angle:
Yes, repetitive story.
Gameplay? Hardly repetitive on most accounts.
Yes, they have a formula, yes they have repeating themes, but do they always have a new gimmick that makes these games fun?
Usually yes. And for that, they sell and are fun.
It may be due to Nintendo never trying for more than the niche market. It's a place they have done amazingly well at.
Frankly its not just Nintendo that does it, take a look at any of the AAA gaming developers/producers. They do not die quiet deaths, they die much the same way a beached whale does, where the body has to be removed using industrial explosives.
I would have to say Nintendo is a viable company, at least from a profit perspective.
Pokemon yes one and two were good and in my opinion 2 was my fave! It was a true sequel, not this Black and white 2 crap....
But I have to agree, Mario and Zelda have gotten stale.... Why not just have your gear ready and kill Ganon the first time around. Then Just go with me on this, several years later he revives then you gather your shit and kill him.... again with mario why not have Bowser being kidnapped, no bad guy no fun anymore....
And the 3D thing, its doing good so far, just use it less and less. but the virtual boy, okay that was sucky, but I gotta admit it was awesome hardware i just never tried it, just at a Toys R us that no longer exists anymore... T^T Only time I remember of the VB was also during a Link to the past OP with the triforce setting and the sword goes through....
but I kinda agree but they are not stopping anytime soon.
I mean, to be fair, the games do tend to be pretty good. But people seem to want a lack of variety in the iconic characters and franchises that they worship. Zelda seems to have only gotten more popular as it has become less interesting with each new title. And it doesn't help that when Nintendo do try something a little more adventurous with a franchise (Metroid: Other M) they tend to screw it up royally.
That would show them.
Theyr problem is not about the games but about the way they make games, they don't care about theyr fans because they only want to make stuff THEY like rather than stuff THEYR COSTUMERS would like.
I wonder if you follow the blog of "Sean Malstorm", he writes a lot about the issues of the Nintendo buisness model but i can resume with the quote above: They (or better, Iwata, the company CEO) are like a playground/enterteinment park for game developers, they only do what they would like and try to shove it down the gamers throats.
Besides, Nintenerds (that's how i call Nintendo fanboys) are among the most stupid life forms on Earth, lesser than Sonic fanboys but pretty close to those, no matter how crappy a game is but as long as "nintendo" is branded on the cover they're gonna buy it and play it saying "It's cool".
I love my 3DS for the stand alone games. I don't buy the "Nintendo" games for it. Several of the stand alone games are really rather good. I like them more than the crap they made for the PSP
I do not like "the Wii is for kids" idea. It's certainly the best console for kids these days, but the games are just for fun. Mario still gets obscenely hard near the final boss. Pokémon still has the whole strength/weakness strategy and "collect them all" and hacks and cracks and other stuff that keeps people who are not me playing it. It's Nintendo's MMO, without needing other players.
They're as viable as Sony "let's get all the dickheaded fanboys who think hardware is all that matters while EA generates us money" PS3 and Microsoft "let's try something new that everyone will hate, then take away things people wanted Television" XBOne (seriously, not needing to insert disks would be a big plus for XB1, but without the DRM it's not happening. And you know EA is gonna pull that crap with PS3. Sony games won't have it, everyone else's will).
The only thing Nintendo is missing is hardware heavy requirements (super realistic brown graphics) and proper use of the WiiU tablet (the disk of minigames shipped with it were the best uses I've seen).
I would expect Microsoft's XBone to fail before WiiU.
"Why can't mario take a lesson from Marcus Pheonix and curb stomp some bowser face? Crack some skulls in half?"
-So that we can enjoy 54th 3rd person shooter with worthless storyline released this year?
'The Wee consoles are meant for younger kids, admit it. There hasn't been anything ground breaking on the nintedo consoles for years.'
-And has there been anything ground breaking on other consoles for years? ^^
I seriously don't know why all the hate towards N. Their games are really original, comparing to other companies. I see that you are not a hardcore player, so for you it might seem stupid to release Mario games all the time, but believe me- the games out there aren't really 'new'. There are few new ones, but most of the time, it's the same thing all over. You mentioned Gears of War. After finishing Max Payne 3, Deus Ex, S.T.A.L.K.E.R and 1000000000000 other shooters, I yawned and put GoW3 back to the shelf after 20 minutes. It's worth that much. Another example- Assassin's Creed. Give a man (who doesn't know these games) all of them one after another without saying which is which and he will never find out that it's not the same game.
For Link losing his stuff, you do realize it's usually a different guy named Link. The only games that share the same Links are the first two Zeldas, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass. Since nobody knows where or when the next Link will be born, they just put the stuff back rather than give it to the wrong ass in the wrong country, who winds up pawning the stuff.
Pokemon is Pokemon. It's Nintendo's Star Wars in that it will continue to sell long after its initial fad value has died off.
Nintendo still makes money. Rather than cater to the fad of the day, Nintendo makes the fad. Nobody asked for analog-stick controllers after the Atari 5200 disaster, but Nintendo still shoved those sticks down our throats. And when we tried to fight back, they forced the rumble pack onto us. A decade later, people were pissed when Sony decided to ditch the rumble and almost all console games require the use of the very analog sticks Nintendo told us we needed. And don't get me started on Nintendo's invention of the d-pad, cross-button design (as seen on the Super Nintendo, Wii U, Sony, and Microsoft controllers), and shoulder buttons.
Nintendo continues to make money. As long as Nintendo makes money making products enough people want to buy, Nintendo will survive. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at Activision. Killed off the music/rhythim genre via market oversaturation and makes a new Call of Duty game literally annually. Nintendo at least tries to make each new installment slightly different.
Let's take, say, Ratchet and Clank as a reasonable comparison. Most of the games follow a similar format- but Insomniac made sure that the characters and the universe of Ratchet Clank took things away from every successive game, so that things feel like they're in a progressive overarching plot, even if there isn't a grand conclusion.
You know, stuff like "Hey, my old swingshot and grindboots!" and hearing about Angela Croft on the radio in A Crack in Time (which really surprised the hell out of me, I thought she was a long gone character) just to show that it's a continuous story being played out.
I am a Playstation dude.
Had two amazing RPG element mario games and suddenly WHOOPS. We forgot we don't want Paper Mario to have an RPG element so now it'll be just another platformer mockery of Super Mario.
Fuck.
that said, nobody, and i mean nobody, buys a nintendo game for the story. they buy them for the gameplay, which is almost always very solid, and very fun; Metroid Prime had an... ok story, but that game shined on its gameplay, and its exploration aspects. that, and it's an absolutely beautiful game with an ambient soundtrack (and before people bitch about it being made by a western company, that western company is wholly owned by nintendo of japan). people didn't buy donkey kong because K.Rool or a tiki mask stole DK's banana horde, they bought it for platforming that was typically more fun and more challenging than a Mario game
and now that they have Monolith Soft under their sleeve, they're going to have great (NON-MENU BASED) RPGs coming out semi-consistently, something of the exact same caliber as Xenoblade, an absolutely beautiful game
at the end of the day though, i look at things like this; at least nobody's acting like Microsoft is right now. at least Nintendo and Sony have not lost sight of what a game is and don't make television and media the forefront of their system