NEED ADVICE- ALL LAPTOP USERS OUT THERE
11 years ago
Heya lollipops! S'up? =D
I need money and I thought: ''HEY, maybe I will buy a laptop, grab my tablet and open commissions when I am at the base and earn money when I am away from home?!!!!!@#??"
So...I know nothing in computers. I don't know what counts as an awesome laptop and what sucks //never had a laptop.
What I need now is models of laptops which are 'powerful' / 'strong' / 'fast' / etc. enough to support Photoshop CS or Elements and SAI altogether (Not anything by Apple though...too expensive.)
Please help me out? C:
I need money and I thought: ''HEY, maybe I will buy a laptop, grab my tablet and open commissions when I am at the base and earn money when I am away from home?!!!!!@#??"
So...I know nothing in computers. I don't know what counts as an awesome laptop and what sucks //never had a laptop.
What I need now is models of laptops which are 'powerful' / 'strong' / 'fast' / etc. enough to support Photoshop CS or Elements and SAI altogether (Not anything by Apple though...too expensive.)
Please help me out? C:
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Personally, Lenovo laptops suck. Mine lasted a good 3 months with all the expensive spyware on it before it died.
I've had an ASUS for a year now and it's the best thing next to some crazy $2,00 Apple laptop.
Do you use Photoshop or other heavy programs on your laptop?
Before that I had a HP entertainment laptop, again could run those programmes smoothly, I had that one for five years before I upgraded to the lenovo to suit my needs and because the HP had over heating problems in its 5th year, allvin all though that was a great laptop with 8GB of memory and a 2-3 hour battery life.
I highly reccomend both HP and Lenovo, but again, it depends which laptop you get from them ^^
At work we use to be a big fan of Toshibas. Their business models are still good, but expensive, their "home" ones not so good. Work changed to Dells, which I find "meh" nothing too good or bad about them. We did have a bundle of Acer laptops, don't touch those. Asus seems to be hit and miss, I have some friends who think they're the best things ever and others who run screaming from them.
While I've never owned a toshiba it's used quite a lot in schools and other work environments, so i'd say they're ok for small works, i agree with you on the dells, asus and acer's :)
Here if you feel like reading a really long a tech detailed review of the notebook in question: http://goo.gl/IKqaE2
"This 9-year-old Cisco router I'm using has been perfectly fine for my 486 computer, and you have no right to tell me that the problem isn't coming from that newfangled Le... luh...Luveenoh?
Hell, I never even heard of them before. WHy can't I get an IBM and be done with it?"
"Sir, Lenovo *is* IBM."
"Why the hell don't they just call themselves IBM?"
"Because it's not 1986 anymore, SIr."
What's your budget anyway? Last time I checked, a strong laptop was about 3000 shekel.
My highest option is about 2000~
Adobe recommends 1GB or VRAM. The laptops that DO have a discrete card like that will run around $800-900.
As far as actually picking out a specific one, I'm not too good at that. I'm currently running the high-end version of the Lenovo U530 touch, though the display seems a bit off to me. Might be an issue for art stuff.
Good luck! Let us know if you need more help.
and thank you for the help! O:
Good luck to you in your search.
As a general thing, if you're wanting a laptop that will run Photoshop, focus on getting an Intel processor, and lots of memory. At work, I use an Asus N56V<something> (like one of these) which is an i5 with 16GB ram, and it's pretty good at the job it does. There's a 2GB nVidia 630 graphics card in there too, which Photoshop loves, and it has a full HD screen.
If I remember right, Photoshop CS and SAI are single threaded programs. A quad core i7 would be a waste of your money, since 3 CPUs will idle while only 1 does any work. A dual core i5 would definitely seem the best value for your specific use case. Don't be afraid to buy a memory upgrade for whichever laptop you choose however; nearly all have a little access hatch on the bottom and it doesn't void your warranty to fit it yourself.
Top of my manufacturer list would be Asus, then Lenovo. I'd put Dell somewhere down near the bottom, to be honest; I don't like their build quality at all (big, clunky, plastic beasts), and they don't seem to get the best out of the hardware.
Do be aware however that laptops are always slower than a desktop of the "same" spec. (Examples: desktop i5 CPUs are quad core, whereas laptop i5s are dual core. An nVidia 760 mobile graphics card has 768 graphics cores - the desktop version has 1152. "Same" hardware label, different spec underneath.) That's not to say all laptops are slow and horrible, because depending on what you want them to do, you can still get one faster than you need - I have my i5 laptop for work, and a little light i3 that I carry round to write stories with when on the go, and both are perfect for the jobs they do. As long as the task you have in mind isn't super-heavy on performance (Photoshop isn't really) then you'll be fine.
Final word of warning for a first time buyer; laptops in general have a high failure and return rate. Buy from a respectable retailer with plenty of stock, so that if yours is dead on arrival, you'll get an immediate replacement from their shelves, rather than waiting weeks for the manufacturer to send back the original.
Good luck - hope you find something you're happy with :)
Firstly, like many of my fellow commenters have also suggested, any laptop which runs an Intel core i5 processor will probably more than suitable, and something with an Intel i7 is even better, but you'll want something with at -least- 8GB of RAM to be able to fully utilize its speed.
[My buddy who builds computers would be annoyed with me for saying this, as nowadays, he recommends something with at -least- 16GB of RAM, bare minimum; me, I'm still on an ancient old desktop with 4GB of system memory, which in itself has never given me any troubles, but then again, I don't use Photoshop, and I don't tend to multitask, like so many of us do. :P]
So, in other words, 8GB+ RAM is ideal, but 16GB+ RAM is optimal, particularly if you like multitasking. :D
You'll likely also want something with dedicated graphics as opposed to integrated, especially if you enjoy the occasional gaming in addition to Photoshop. (i.e. look for something that has "AMD Radeon HD" or "nVidia GTX" graphics, rather than something that says nothing at all about the graphics, which more than likely means they are integrated) It will also do you some good to Google the information on the graphics themselves, as fellow users will often let you know what is good and what isn't.
As a final point, I would -not- recommend Windows 8 or 8.1. Despite my own dislike of it - which in disclosure, is generally superficial compared to the folks who actually use it - pretty much every single friend I've known who's had Windows 8 or 8.1 has strongly disliked it, and would have preferred to get Windows 7 instead.
If there's any chance you can build your own laptop, such as at http://www.cyperpowerpc.com/ or otherwise, I would suggest steering clear of Windows 8 and trying to opt for a Windows 7 Professional or Windows 7 Ultimate laptop, in lieu of all of the crazy new touchscreen/two-in-one (tablets that can be attached to keyboards)/all-in-ones they offer nowadays, almost all of which come with Windows 8 or 8.1 as standard.
[Not knocking on Microsoft or Windows in general - I would just prefer to use Windows 7 instead of 8, by my own personal preference in addition to everything else I've heard! XD]
So, in short! I would go with at least an Intel i5 processor, or if you prefer AMD processors, at least one of their six-core configurations. For me, Windows 7 is a must. Also keep in mind that, although a GPU/video card can be "dedicated," it may still be "integrated," i.e. built into the motherboard, which will take away from system memory.
Hope this at least -slightly- helps; again, I don't know nearly as much about modern builds/system configurations as my peers, but I still know a thing or two about designing/building a system. :P Please feel free to give me a shout/note if you're still confused; I will do my best to help.
Good luck!
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-Cab
There aren't any legitimate retail sources that sell WIndows 7 on a new computer anymore, as of about February last year, so you won't find a WIn7 machine with any modern parts in it. If you're building a tower, WIn7 is a cost-saving measure, but ultimately, it doesn't run nearly as well on anything less than about 8gb of memory because despite being very powerful and easy to tune, at the back end it is everything that Mac users hate about WIndows.
I don't count this as bad though, as WIn8 is much more efficient, bordering on being as kernel-efficient and streamlined as OSX. YOu can install what's called the Classic Shell which gives you the efficiency and awesome backwards-compatibility of 8.1 with an interface that makes sense on a machine without a touchscreen.
I have seen more Dell and HP laptops come back for repairs each than everything else put together, and only about half of those are from user error or mistreatment.
ANY laptop you get for under about $450-$500 normally priced, is going to be built to considerably different standards than one above that line, and anyone who thinks that a $399.99 Lenovo is going to be of the same quality as a $750 Lenovo probably hasn't been shopping for their self for very long.
So avoid Dell and HP like the plague.
Acer/Gateway are the same company, much like Ford and Mercury, save that there's really no difference between the product lines of Acer and Gateway at all beyond the fact that Acers don't have that stupid cow print on the box.
Sony laptops are generally very well built and well furnished, but I've had a distressing number of people come back with Sony Vaio series machines suffering from hard drive failure.
Samsung is hit or miss. Their monitors are great, but their machines are all over the place for quality.
If you want the best bang for your buck, pick up an Asus. THis company is not well-advertised, but has acquired a Godlike reputation among gamers, builders, and geeks of all sorts for their incredible durability, attention t detail, their outstanding factory driver packages, and generally having the best level of value for the cost.
If you're doing heavy artwork and lots of layers, you will want at least an i5 processor to avoid frustration with response and speed. An i3 processor will be very marginal for handling the sorts of tasks you'll want to throw at it, and since you cannot upgrade the processor in a laptop, you will want to avoid an i3 or anything older (DEFINITELY avoid Pentium or Celeron, and never buy a laptop with an AMD processor in it unless you're content with having it plugged in and sitting on a cooling pad any time you're doing any heavy work. AMD is not bad, they're actually quite nice, but they generate a lot of extra heat and use a lot of extra power as compared to a similar-performing Intel processor, which makes them more ideal for low-budget performance desktop builds). Higher volumes of memory will improve the size of files you can actively work with, more layers, more resolution, more effects processing. You want at least six gigabytes of memory, preferably 8.
Hard disk space will always be a fight. YOu can start with something in the 500gb range, but depending on what else you use it for, you may fill that up quickly. Your laptop will always have USB ports, which you can use to expand your space and create backups ongoing.
Most modern laptops have an HDMI output on the side, which you can use to connect your computer to a television set. THis, I find to be particularly useful when I use my Q550 series machine for remote recording sessions at a friend's house; I generally use my desktop for recording while at home and my monitor is big enough not to worry about it.
FOr your needs, I believe an Asus Q301LA series, which offers a 4th-generation Core i5 processor (the most energy-efficient of the lot without going to an i7 right now), 6gb of RAM, a 500gb hard drive, and a 13.3" touchscreen, would be an ideal starting point, and if you were willing to step up by another $150 or so, the Q501LA would be the ideal machine for you. It has the same 4th-gen i5 processor, but it has 8gb of RAM, a 750gb hard drive, and a 15.6" touchscreen.
THe "premium" model would be the Q550 series, which come with a 4th-generation i7 processor, 8gb of RAM, and a 1tb hard disk (1,000 gb), as well as a dedicated Nvidia GeForce GTX745m graphics chip with 2gb of dedicated video memory THis extra bit really helps with image processing, graphics, renderingand smoothing-out video and game framerates, and is an important thing to have in any machine that you're using for visual arts. These are about $250 over the cost of the 501 series though, and significantly heavier and bulkier despite having the same screen size.
My advise would be to get something quad-core, and then load it up with memory (run a 64-bit Windows) and get an inexpensive SSD to really make it fly.
Other people (above) had some good suggestions for new laptops, but if you're not sure how this will play out and don't want to sink a bunch of money into the investment you should consider this option. If it doesn't work out, you can probably resell the laptop for about what you put into it (which wouldn't be true with a new machine).
Hope this helps!
You could get the highest tier original Pro 1 for around $600, and it can definitely handle Photoshop etc. (Plus it has Wacom pen input built in!)
Alternatively, there's also the Pro 2 & 3. The Pro 3's highest tier model will be released around September-ish and is JUST below $2000, but it has a larger screen, i7 core, 8 Gigs of RAM, and 512 Gigs on its' SSD.
The only down side is that it uses N-Trig rather than Wacom, but from what I've heard, it seems to work great still!
(Here's a link to the Surface Pro 3.)
Hope it helps somehow.! ...three months late! ^^;