Ugh tell me about it.
One guy who seems to have backed off now used to add things like *kiss* onto the end of every sentence.
Never mind that I've never met this person in my life, or that I'm with someone.

That's when you have to bitch them out until they get the message and those that never do, you block.

B'aww more? :/ Its just letter dude, its not gonna hurt you unless he like, rapes you.

hahahaha that's great

"Hey you don't like these people you barely know being creepy towards you? Suck it up unless they rape you"

you goddamn furry, shut up.

Now I know why they called FA a dramapit, Guys like you 5 ;/ I voice MY oppinion, and you all B'aww with him. Yeesh

Dude how is it drama for someone to just be annoyed by retarded text RPing?

And oh boy you accused us of "baww" ing. What other cutting edge 4chan slang are you going to throw now?

I'm done with this subject, please dont reply and further spam up my messages or I shall consider it harassment and treat it as such.

Wait so now you can comment in another person's journal and then tell people there to not reply to your posts when you can't come back with a rational argument?

I'll stop replying if Aer asks me to. It's her journal, not yours.

So what all does this involve, this "treating it as [harassment]"? You make gryphons curious. *pokes harassingly*

Oh , I ignore harassment, lmao. Plus, This was posted like, 3 days ago D:, slow griffy ish slow.

Oh God forbid somebody voice their annoyance at something that IS universally stupid and annoying.

*licks gropes touches fondles adds annoying asterisks on everything and sexual implications onto fucking everything I say to you ever for no reason*
MURRY PURRY

Yes, it's true. Every opinion you disagree with is whining. How foolish of that person you don't share your opinions with. Their complaints are so petty and yours are so relevant.

Are you mad cause furries don't wanna yiffz u anymoar?

It's still sexual harassment btw.

fff. >_> so fucking annoying.

furries have serious boundary issues sometimes.

I know, furries seem to think that just because you're a furry it means you're instant fuck buddies or something.

bleh. :[

Amen amen!!

Agreed! :/

I hate that shit. I hate it more than anything. I'm just painfully blunt and ask the person to stop talking to me that way or I'll block them. Usually they get the hint.

I just don't even respond unless it's actual conversation.

"o.o", for example, is not a conversation starter.

I only accept that if it's from friends 'cause I know they're just doing it to be stupid. But from random people? WHAT THE FUCK?! So ... you're just staring at me creepily like you're a fucking pervert who's undressing me with your eyes and you expect me to initiate conversation?

HELL NO.

whats a vag? ;)

I think its an abbreviation for Vagabond...

I occasionally put *Shrug* or *Yawn* sometimes, but rarely anything like *Gropes* because even though I'm a furry myself, and I write yiff as a hobby, it doesn't define the fandom, or me.

Ugh, it's even worse on Second Life. D:<
I'm glad sometimes that I'm not a very good artist so random furs don't talk to me.

Always a chance to hurt someone!

I made a similar journal like this awhile back telling people to stop e-raping me and it offended a friend of mine who didn't even do it, other than the occasional *hug* but the e-murrs continue. D: So I ended up losing something rather than gaining. fff

Oh, yeah, and *YIFF YIP LICK MURR GROPE*

IMO if people are dumb enough to assume I am talking about them when I am clearly only complaining about gross sexual advances, then they're a bit conceited for my taste. One doesn't need to have an overabundance of confidence to believe the world revolves around them -- Sometimes it takes a severe lack of it to think that way. People who believe the world revolves around them tend to be a waste of time -- Either being enormous dicks, or whining that it's their fault there's no air in space. Both are annoying. :D

I got over it a few minutes later, of course, but I was mostly surprised because he is actually very, very nice. :x Not conceited at all. Or maybe he is since he was upset, I don't know.

He clearly has confidence issues, though, to just assume ZOMG UR BITCHIN ABOWT ME WTF GRR. I hope you made up with him!

Nope. :x He unwatched me and sent me a PM about being offended, and I replied apologizing and explaining that it wasn't directed at him. No reply, no IMs, no comments, no rewatch, nothing. It's been a few months. He must've really been hurt. He IMed me almost every other day, so yeah. It's all good though. o-o

I attract people like that, it seems. They suck. D:

I even had a guy pretend to want to commission me to get in a conversation with me. He then promptly started trying to RP with me, and when I didn't pay attention? Sent me links to some online webcam of his and asking me what my bra size was because he likes "well-endowed women."

I don't understand that "well-endowed woman" bit. So you want a woman who needs a special harness to hold her breasts up because they're so big she has back problems and gets winded walking up stairs? (I have a friend who has breasts this large, poor gal.) Good to know these people want their women in peak physical condition.

wow, I've been lucky enough to avoid that. but then again, im not an artist.

what the crap? do people not have any social skills at all in life? they only way they know how to talk to others is with the pretense of sexual fetishes? run run run away!

Oh I couldn't agree more. I've never understood it. I don't really get the people who leave "I came" comments either. I mean, do we *really* need to know that?

It's a wonder anyone ever admits to being female online, as soon as they do all the creeps start circling like wolves. I can't imagine ever talking to a woman the way I see people do online. It upsets me and I'm not even the one they're talking to. =/

"I came" is a meme

lurk moar

That doesn't make it any less tasteless.

It isn't something like they seriously wanked and came to an image. I know when I say it, I'm jokin around, and I would think it would be the same for other people.

And you expect taste on a furry site? Really? r u srs?

Er, isn't having a little bit of taste on a furry site what this journal is about? I'll save you the trouble of scrolling up and reading it again:
"Just because I draw anthro art and I have a vag doesn't mean I want to know all about what you wish to do in the bedroom, you know?"

Doesn't this apply, joke or not? Oh, and here's another quote you might find relevant:
"Why is it that when random furries try to contact me, a lot of them use RP and babytalk?"

I'll help you out. It should be "Are you serious?" not "r u srs?"

LOL WOAH

BUTTHURT UNFOLDING

I know you think you're being funny, but all I see is you avoiding the questions I asked.

FA isn't the only place where people can contact artists. There's MSN, AIM, Yahoo, etc.

Also, joking around and using memes has nothing to do with taste, it's for humor. If you're gonna take that shit serious, you need to reevaluate your life.

Now before you argue and say "well then RPing like that shouldn't be taken seriously either", you're wrong. It's sexual harassment. What if you meet these people at a con and they try that shit? Alot of furries don't understand that not everyone wants fuck buddies and to play like that

Look, I'll laugh at memes as much as the next guy but just because something is a meme doesn't mean it's appropriate for every situation. If it isn't appropriate to do or say something to someone in real life why should it suddenly be online? Personally I don't really feel that "I came" is appropriate or funny, ever. Obviously you feel differently. We'll just have to agree to disagree there.

Out of respect for Aer I'm not going to continue this conversation, so if you want the last word you are welcome to it. If you would like to continue feel free to drop me a note. But I don't think it does anyone any good to keep mucking up Aer's journal with our back and forth.

....lol okay

in after butthurt

Hmm, I often do say "I came" to some people's art in real life. It's something entirely non-sexual and meant as a gesture saying that your art was so amazing it caused an orgasm without even being porn - but not really.

I don't mean to start an argument, I'm sorry it was an obvious B-tard who tried to explain the joke before, it''s just a case where you were offended, and someone else wasn't. :3

hell, I am a man, and I get that shit all the fucking time. its the furry fandom, that behaviour is not limited to only females.

Hell, even my friends will do it, and I tell them I dont do RP shit like that, yet they continue. fucking pathetic.

(please bear with me, the following buttons do not work on my keyboard - m (I use ctrl+v to put the letter), apostrophe, colon, delete)

Oh I totally know, the behaviour is not at all gender exclusive. It happens to guys, too! In fact the dude who is the biggest perpetrator of this kind of faggotry thinks I am a guy -- I'm under an alias that is male whenever he talks to me. So it's just kind of... Frustrating for all of us!

I knew you were who I thought you were

*LIK LIK LIK YIFF* HAY LET'S HAVE A ORGY K

OMG MURRY PURRY, UR SO SEXY UNFUNF LITZ GO PRZ, U MAEKIN ME SO HAWT

That is sad, I'm glad I don't have friends that do that to me X3

That stuff is exactly why I stopped interacting with furries using the name of my female character.
I love Ras for that reason, ugly bastard keeps the morons at bay. :D He's my social condom.

*gropes and barks softly coercing you into pleasure* Oh gawsh yus I wuv boo soo mutch. YIFF YIFF YIFF


Luckily I've only run into this problem like once... But it was actually pretty creepy >_>
But whatever, I totally understand how annoying it can be =\ Imean I'll type like *hug* or *yawn* or other little thins, but ONLY if those people are my best friends... If I meet someone for the first time 'd much rather have an intelligent conversation first.

god i dont get some people. fuck i hate it even when people do it to art in comment form. like theres this one person that i watch on DA that i know has a boyfriend with an FA account. everytime i see this guy, its him commenting on a dirty pic along something along the lines of: "this is a very very sexy peice, *kisses neck and makes his way to lick downstairs*"
i mean come on, not only is it a picture, but this guy has a mate already.

CAN HAS AER MURRYFURRYPURRYYIFFYSCRITCHES? I HAS TEH MASSIVE UBERWANG 4 YOUR VAG <3XINFINITY4EVA!!

I'd say it's because of how furry seems to take acceptance of everything too far but it goes beyond that. These are people who cannot separate fantasy and reality. They can't simply enjoy a particular art style or just have an online persona, they have to live it as though their over-sexualized, idealized internet self was real.

It ties into something that I've discussed with my friends before and that is the phenomenon of "Perpetual Children" that has come about in modern western society. Adult is more than simply a number, it's a state of mind. These are people who are in their 20s and 30s yet act as though they were still 14 and not just online either. I have a 32 year old co-worker who brags that his mom does his laundry for him. Yes, he still lives at home and plays MMORPGs.

We have become so affluent, so lacking in real want in our society that people no longer are forced to grow up and become mature. This is only exacerbated by parents who've utter failed in their part and continue to baby these adult children instead of giving them a kick in the ass and a toss out the door.

As for the murry purry business, I thank god that non of my friends do that to me unless it's the blatant, over the top usage displayed in your last pic and even then it's very rare. Sorry for the tldr, but this topic is one of concern for me as it's indicative of the collapse of western society.

*indicates the REAL LIFE collapse of modern urbanized cyberized western society through GROPES AND SCRITCHES AND YIFFS AH SO FUN THIS COLLAPSE IS XD ^.^ :3 >.>*

Ehem, I mean yes, and let me communicate with you and tl;dr you back!

I thought about this alot too and agree with the acceptance part. And I think the acceptance and lack of peer-pressure is the really important factor here. Individual people (probably) have had all kinds of personality problems and shortcomings at any given time before ("man is just a sick animal", Freud anyone?)(I know, Freud is outdated), but their environment did not tolerate these problems so individual people were always forced to deal with their problems one way or another. The people making up the environment also had problems, yes, but they were different each, and this heterogenity and natural distribution of fucked-upness was the thing that provided a sort of constant all-sided peer pressure to get yourself together and so didn't let people fall into extremes. If you look at it, a group of extremes will usually hate "normal people" too, it's quite obvious they're hating that peer pressure.
With the advent of the internet (and easy living, you are right) however, people can communicate with one another regardless of their distribution (more like regardless of their context), and form groups and snuggle-hug-<worse> their like-minded fellows, and break this natural distribution of fucked-upness and relieve the balancing pressure that comes with it. (ok, right, alot of good things can come out of people being able to talk with one another aswell, I'm not trying to say this is a bad thing, the rule of big numbers and time will decide whether this is a good thing or a bad thing)(come on, either way, we are living interesting times!)
And in that sense you're right, whole western society; this doesn't just work with furries, it works with teenage and emos and New Age and b+tards (though that is fun) and whatever.
However, I don't know however whether this is really something that is forming our society so strong or it is just something that appears so obviously on the internet on sites with given themes (where obviously people of that theme will conglomerate). And in the mean time, the natural distribution is still stronger and working enough, and there is still a normal ratio of sickness/m^2.
Also I might not know because I live in somewhere in Eastern-Europe and the internet hasn't been so trendy for as long as it has been in, say, the US, and there are still afterwinds of commie dictatures and there isn't as much liberalism in the air as in some other places. People will still try to resolve problems personally first before turning to higher authority, such as cops or laws or site moderators (badum-tish!). I do notice more "MMORPG-bums" and emos appearing though.

Anyway yes, I lost my momentum somewhere at this point now, I'll see what/if you'll respond.

I think the worst thing I've ever said was "lol sexy", but only as a joke. I think it's nasty to do something like that. People think they can get away with anything on the internet. Sadly, FA is a breeding ground for ultra pervs.

I explain to anyone who even remotely messages me with something seemingly sexual that I do have a b/f :| And he is a BIG man.


lol my b/f actually scared off one of my watchers who didn't really do anything sexual, but he was tired of seeing him asskiss so he sent him a note like "i see what she sees" and he got scared off lolololol

*sigh* murry furries...

Well, dude, there are "normal" people as well in the fandom. Just believe xD

I know one too many people who are like this IRL. It's lucky that I don't get to see them too often.

I'm still traumatized by one random guy I bumped into at a con who rather then saying 'hi' decided to scritch me. When I asked wtf he was doing his only explanation was "you're a fox"

inb4doublefisting

Foxes like that, right?

that makes me want to never go to a con.

i don't want to be scritched, i am not itchy.

i know how that feels omg, this one dude keeps trying to do that, git in my pants via internet rp shit so i played back a bit with a
" *punchs ur face to a bloody pulp* " and yelled at him. he currently doesnt talk to me any more lol

ill *hug* or w/e every now and then, but thats it.
sry people are dumb.

I totally agree with this. I had it happen to me on several occassions. D: At times I don't mind the occassional *hug* or *pets*, but when it starts getting freaking *murry-purry*, it just turns me away from the whole conversation, and I never want to see them again. :/

There is this one girl I know, who "*gropes*" me ALL. THE. TIME. At first, these sort of things were cute. But now, it's getting pathetic. There also was a babyfur who had a crush on me a while back after meeting me at a furmeet. He would say "hows yous?" and refer to himself as "cubby", like "cubby is in bed". I only use that asterisk crap for normal actions, like *shudders* or something. Usually I seem to use it for *shudders*. God damn furries.




And PS if you wanna HANG OUT WITH ME, do it in real life. Don't tell me to get on second life. That's just stupid. Plus my computers won't run that inefficient garbage without me booting into WINDOWS so fuck that.

THANK YOU.
FUCK SECOND LIFE. FUCK IT WITH A THOUSAND SWORDS.

Also I use asterisks for simple actions like that as well, but like for dumbass sexual roleplay shit it's lame.

Ugh, tell me about it. =_= I have had the fortune to not run into too many of this type, but...yeesh, what I've seen is enough to annoy me even if it's not directed at me. I myself use asterisks to denote actions, but not any of the creepy ones. =/ It's weird how on FA you'll see a lot of *gropes* and *kisses*...most of which seems to be exchanged between people who have never met before.

I'm grateful to have friends who don't do that to me. But there are people who are the popular definition of the furry fandom, people who fit the stereotype. And that's really sad and sometimes frustrating.

OH IVANS BB *GROPE*

You were asking for it.

Oh? Well, I'll...MURRY PURRY ON YOUR FURRY.

WHAT NOW?!

I HATE YOU.

I HATE YOU.

OH MY GOD I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE.

<3

*laughs so hard (for real)

all so true...

V.

Wow, that's got to be uncomfrotable and un nerving, hope everything calms down for ya.

I had an acquaintance who would do those kinds of things. Then he stopped talking to me when I told him it made me uncomfortable.

I don't care that it's online, I wouldn't let someone I don't know walk up to me and do the same 'in real life,' so why should I let it slide here?
Unfortunately, punching someone in the gut is ineffective online.

So fucking glad I haven't had any contact with this personally yet. xD But I see it on so many of my favorite artists' submissions and it even pisses me off as a fellow watcher. :/

And in regards to the MSN/AIM stalkage, that's why I don't *think* I have it publicized. Better go check that after this... But seriously, the only people I do stuff like *hugs* with are a) close friends or b)artists I know actually do stuff like that back. And an e-hug is about the extent of it for me. I never understood this belief that the furry community is one big clusterfuck of horny people who either a) can't get any in real life or b) just want as much as they can get. I'm happily engaged, thank you, I don't need that shit from random people I don't know. Thab being said....


YIFFYIFFYIFF *gropes*

I once had a completely random furry contact me on AIM who didn't seem to know about my page (no idea how he got my contact info then) and in the middle of a conversation suddenly said: yifff? *rubs your crotch* and stuff like 'I can turn you into a ferret through hypnotism', very odd

You're my hero. This is one of the reasons I've been so shy entering into the furry community.

Sounds like a dragon I know XD...

I ain't namedroppin'

Never said you were :P. I'm just saying that there are a LOT of furs like that out there. Unless I've known them forever, I just tend to block them and move on. I still stay in contact via e-mail... sometimes...

Yeah no, I mean I'm just confirming that I won't namedrop to piss off anyone. :D
Yeah there sure are a lot out there. What he does makes me really uncomfortable though. Like REALLY uncomfortable. I'll be sitting there and trying to hold some kind of normal conversation about art or something and it's like

words words words *gropes and fondles*

No matter that I've been like 'Yeah I don't RP like that.' Ugh.

DURR HURR, I'M A MURRY PURRY FURRY AND HAVE NO E-ETIQUETTE WHATSOEVER. I wood SO yiff your char, want 2 get 2gethur sumtiem?!?!?


Yeah.. furries = socially inept. Both irl AND online. :P What gets me too are the one's that seem so AFRAID and unsure of what to do/say when approaching you. For instance at a con, ordering a badge.. and then the ones that carry it into EMAIL even. Hi, uhh.. *blushes and waves* I was directed to you by a friend, hope I'm not a bother. =^__^= *hides behind his tail* I mean, shit, how do you function in NORMAL life?!


Dude.. can I reference this post in my journal? Seriously. Furries need to quit this faggotry.

Yeah go for it. Also ADD ME ON LJ MAYBE PERHAPS IF YOU WANT lots more rants there. aerfox.livejournal.com hurr

Woot, yes.. can always use more awesome rants. XD I will add to daiwuff, the LJ I actually USE.

I've always, even before I found the fandom, assumed that conversations on teh intarwebz had an implied virtual space to them like the actual space that actual conversations happen in. I've never felt bad about using it, but I use it exactly the same way I use real space - or would use real space, were I actually a ginormous carnivorous beast (like, uh, rar, and stuff) - and I've always assumed that THE SAME RULES OF ETIQUETTE APPLIED. It's kinda RP-ish, I s'pose, but does gesture-y stuff count? Should I be butthurt that you don't like RP-ish chat? Determine my emotional state for me. I could be butthurt over it if you want. It looks like you might need moar drama in here.

Also, I somehow survived nearly nine years in the fandom before getting exposed to the sort of random groping you seem to be plagued with, and now I can't seem to get away from it. I dunno if I just had a knack for hanging around the Right Sort, or what. Either way, I think this is sort of a new addition to furry. You used to have to go look for it if you wanted to find it; now you have to step out of the way to avoid getting buried by it.

Anyway, speaking of the Right Sort, can I steal your LJ link and add you, too? You're like all cool and stuff.

Yeah go for it.
No like I've always used RP for GESTURES and things to notify my tone of voice or something like that. It's just the whole business of YIFF PLASE that irritates me so much.
Also LJ add away.

I never rp on the msn...

Imbeciles! The lot of em!
This is why I don't even remotely consider myself a furry. I'm just here for some toony fun and the like.