Don Bluth. He caused everything twisted in this fandom.

JK. I have no idea. But if I had to guess based on my own exploration of the net, became an accepted "interest" of some furies in like, the late to mid 90s I feel.

I've never considered that before but damn I love Don Bluth, so, fakey or not I love that theory.

I don't have anything to source but I think you can trace vore as a fetish back much further than just the late 70s

The Big-Gulp site supposedly was started in 1995, which I think was a big kickstarter for some of us oldies. VoreTex was created in 1999.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030416.....site_news.html

http://download.lavadomefive.com/me.....in/update.html

The fetish itself is probably age-old, and The Creeping Terror (1964 film) is basically a vore fetish film.

Much of ancient folklore talks about people being eaten whole and alive by something. Usually of course they fight out of it. Still, the concept of vore has probably been around since before human history. The modern understanding though, the last century.

ooh that movie...aka the one eye'd purple carpet peaope eater

Beat me to it. I remember Big Gulp back when Geocities was a thing. Doesn't predate furry but it's the earliest vore fetish collection I know of, and while it had furry content, most of it wasn't.

I highly doubt vore started with furries. It's certainly a fetish I had before I was ever a furry. In any event, I definitely remember the site Voretex that was mentioned. ^=^ I can't track it back further than that coz I'm only 20 after all... u.=.u I love vore tho. Also I don't know about sites, but Strega for one has a 1999 and prior folder on Eka's Portal. No doubt many really old vore images exist.

How old is yum chat? Were there earlier vore chats?

Heck, all those bad monster movies from the 40s and 50s featured the critters eating the extras and almost eating the leading lady, usually removing strategic portions of her clothing in the process. Furry fandom just put its own take on the old idea and bob's yer uncle.

Right! And other things besides! Literature seven mythology, to be sure!

When I was in grade school, well before furry fandom was being imagined, I had a teacher who taught us a module on myths and legends. Including a bunch of the original ones before they were sanitized for modern sensibilities. The one that stuck in my memory was Vagina Dentata. They were in american indian myth, and in european myth, independently. Creepy and scary concept indeed. Google the phrase, if you want the mental scars.

I've been a furry far too long to be scarred by anything... u.=.u

The concept of humans being eaten alive is basically as old as human history itself. It was one of those base, instinctual terrors of our species.

Oldest reference 'I' can recall w/o delving into the depths of da interwebz, would be 'Jonah and the Whale', from the contrived, *ahems*, story related in the Xtian Bible.

I'm certain there are older and more abundant stories/tales/fables, for anyone willing to do some searching.

I always blamed the muppets.

Oh, I don't know who 'started' it, but the first consolidated websites that were dedicated to vore that I found were Vor.com, The Big Gulp, the Big Gulp message board, and the Vortex. I think Sean's Big Gulp website had both furry and non furry content was probably the first. I found all of them I'm pretty sure in 1997 and there was a pretty dedicated core group that I ran into.

There was a Starvoice chatroom, but that was replaced by Mr. Yum's Yumchat sometime around 98 or 99. I heard there were some vore focused areas at both Tapestries and FurryMuck but I never used them so I don't know their particular history.

Most of the stories that people had when they found their way to those places were that they were just scouring the internet for related content and discovered a link or a reference and discovered a bunch of like minded folks. And it just grew from there. At first it was a pretty even mix of furries and non furries, but eventually the furries outnumbered the human/monster centered group.

Over the next few years somehow it grew from an interest that had to be kept quiet about to just another thing. I don't know exactly when that happened, but by 2004 it wasn't something you had to worry about mentioning anymore. At least among furries.

vore did not start with furries, its been around a long time but furries embraced it the most heartily i suspect because of a simple aspect of the furry mindset, stemming from our desire perhaps subconsciously, to be closer to the animals we idolize...a fox 'eats' a rabbit, this is nature, a snake 'eats' a rat this is natural...from this nature we adapt, alter and fetishize it we take this violent primal act and give it a passionate edge, make it not a [or not just a] violent life ending act in a cycle as old as time but an act of trust, of intimacy beyond the norm, or a way to give more of oneself to ones lover then is possible in any other way

thats just my theory.

Don't know if it count but ancient Greek, Kronos (that was destined to be overcome by his own sons) devoured all of his offsprings as soon as they were born to prevent the prophecy (Demeter, Hestia, Hera, Hades and Poseidon)

In that religion***

It's hard to take the stance that vore as a fetish didn't exist until the inception of furries (or some other arbitrary point); humans from centuries ago were just as imaginative as we are, if not more so. That said, I suspect the apparent explosion of both furry and vore coincides with the emergence of animated movies/shows and video games, and the addition of the internet later on has allowed them to grow and thrive as subcultures.

A related question that I continue to wrestle with is this: Would I still be into vore (or furry, for that matter) if I hadn't grown up on children's cartoons and video games? In a way, I feel my early interest in vore thwarted a more normal sexual development, as though I was somehow 'imprinted' years before I became an adolescent. In the absence of the many instances of vore within animated media -- which are particularly immersive compared with, say, writing or still pictures -- I wonder if my experience growing up would have been different.

I indepedently found the kink in the late 80's / 90's as I discovered sexuality... but I blame some kid's song of "oh no, the boa's eating my feet" or similar for nudging that idea in mind...

Oh man, that one story by Cinnamon? That's a pretty intense way to discover it. <3

The oldest vore stuff I know of that is specifically furry are the stories listed in Miavir's archive. That site was created in the 90s, and last updated in 2003, but still exists: http://furry.de/miavir/stories/key......rarephile.html

Looking over those stories, I see several by  Rogue (including Nex, for which I recently commissioned this awesome illustration) and one by Cinnamon (Having Some Friends Over For Dinner). I also see the now-defunct Big Gulp archive (which had okay fur stories but nothing special)

Certainly when I had regular net access from 1996 vore was a thing - and I've been contributing to it since around then. But there was a well-established community of vore artists that I joined in with at the time - folks like Lyon and Rogue, amongst others.

Earliest I remember is the early 90s with the aforementioned sites like Big Gulp, etc. Never was a fan so I didn't really pay attention to it though, it has to have been around for ages though, as with most fetishes. As an actual working historian (yes that job still exists!), I love questions like this, keep them coming! Really interested in the true origins of anything related to the fandom.

HEck, look at any animal documentary film even made. there is nearly always a scene where the featured critter is hunting/being hunted and eaten. Depending on the exact pred/prey combo, they may not show all the gory details. But even those crappy disney animal shows from the 60s showed things like snakes swallowing mice. Don't try and tell me that the filmmakers don't find those scenes exciting.

sorry I can not help you. I'm a furry since 2 years. would you tell me if you know more about it. greetings from lutz germany ........

I personally don't have much to add topic-wise (especially internet / fandom-wise), but I'll try mention few points while trying to not make this far too long-winded:

This thing / theme has always been around: "It just pretty much is there around everything and there's no point denying it"; some just are more enthusiastic about it for their own reasons.

People just have this obsession to categorize everything to the finest details, which necessarily isn't a bad thing but many seems to limit their liking-things or otherwise similar things trhough this process.


Also, anyone reading this might be interested in reading Dostojevski's (Finnish-spelling) "Crocodile": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crocodile_(short_story)
Here's a image of the Finnish-book cover (imagine 4th-grader myself finding this randomly on the shelves of school-library; still had a blast reading it even if I didn't understood all the political-things): https://twitter.com/PaveMentman/sta.....90330163257344


As I said, I could go on with this topic. But I believe this is enough for this reply, that is unless someone requests more opinions from me o this topic.