Small discussion and any left over apologies
16 years ago
A smaller discussion on the issue.
The reason the last post was so long was to clear the air and I wanted to be honest with anything I did. It is a right in that manner to keep that bridge of communications with anyone to be trusting. So that leaves it up to themselves as artists if they want to do buisness with me in the future. It also leaves any friends if they wish to keep speaking to me in the same manner.
One of my biggest fears of posting any art even by my hand is if it would be appreciated at all at any time when I put it up. I have been on here for two or so years and you can say that hindered me to draw at times over what could possibly happen.
It's another reason I stuck to what I knew in gifts for anyone, even one person in particular, you do what you know. I'm a writer at heart and dabble in drawing on occation.
My intentions are never to hurt the intended subject of the art and in many cases is more of dedication to whichever individuals involved. I'm not a pervert. I don't do yiff images all the time or think of getting them done. I've always loved stories better.
I removed any images of mine from the past that fit otherwise into that if someone would be offended by seeing them on my page.
The only thing I fear now is if I try to make more art will it be taken the same reception or if I try to get a commission piece from someone an artist, will they hesitate if they feel drama will be attached? Or if I have a piece commissioned at one point or draw something, will I have to again remove it later because of someone's disagreement further in time?
I'd rather not lose any trust and such with any artist or anyone I do get commissions from because they don't deserve that in any way. I support artists here fully in this is how they at times try to make their income. It's just a bonus that they take time from their days to work on whatever you give them. I'm very thankful for that. I don't want to shatter any bonds or drag their names through the mud on my behalf. Professionally it's embarassing and humiliating on all parties when that is never the intent.
This is one of the things that hurts most is when the time and effort these individuals put into things that are beautiful on result, they can never see the light of day and for the artists that's a terrible thing.
I do understand the sacredness of anyone's character, again which is why I always had second doubts on posting any art here. Or even so long it took to finally have some courage to do get commissions done. Even with so much red tape, I never wanted anything bad to come out of it. I also don't want it to reflect badly on anyone in their first time in getting commissions done.
The timeline thing in a much bigger perspective was not just going to be commissioned art, but of my hand too. I can write and I do draw, but explainations are never a strong suit to me. I wanted to detail the highlights of the past three years and not just of myself but those I've been around. Nothing short of tribute and to celebrate successes and maybe any failures along the way. No one would have been used negatively. The commissioned pieces were to fall into more special scenes and highlight and show more of importance and well show that extra mile of effort to who was involved. I was going to add my own poetry and showcase them in a specific order as if to tell a story. My way to showcase those that are important to me that I know and it was for the world here to get a better visual of that. If this ever gets done, I'll be much wiser on this.
I'll have more artists get information if they feel they need it.
If they can't do a particular piece they are always free to tell me so, that never changes.
If it seems questionable in the material, they can contact parties involved for their characters if they must.
Only something more questionable will fall on my shoulders, never someone else's, that won't happen again.
On another note I have read to an extent where this has been talked about and on a few things I do have to reply.
We all make mistakes and we all try to learn from them the best we can. It shouldn't matter where and how we meet someone, the fact is they have an impact on our lives. They could be that person you see on the bus everyday, or someone and somehow you bump pathes with on the way to work or out of nowhere. That same thing holds true. Taken how the internet has changed much of society, things adapt and shape themselves accordingly even to this. This culture here thrives on that in order to survive.
We all do different things that might seem crazy at times but have the same good intentions of those that we could see everyday. If it can somehow shape something better even from it's presentation it should be more welcome than feared. Again everything is a learning experience, there is much I would do differently but you have to take that step and walk in someone else's shoes before passing judgement on anyone. We're all that person who works at the fast food restaurant, or the one that was late to that meeting or forgot that birthday gift. How often do we find creativeness and ingenuity in order to set things right? In the right ways, that gift we try to show those we care or have obligations to are what makes the future brighter. That's why we have transportation and more modern conveniences like this and medicine. It's the overall well being of someone else is what brings them out, thinking other than yourself.
In a world driven more on negativity, it's only reasonable to always assume the worst on what a person might do and do next. In many cases now we see a darker future with the inability to work, have enough food or getting through each day. Who is there to say that an act of kindness and compassion to another is wrong? This is all I have tried to do for someone and anyone I come across. It's not normal to think of another but it shouldn't be rare to aid someone or share or go out of your way for someone no matter how much or little they hold for you. If more people got of their chairs and instead of complaining as they tend to do these days and criticize others in their actions, and really submerge themselves back to reality. They need to learn not to make this here their utopia but where they go after they leave the online world because that's what truely matters.
The reason the last post was so long was to clear the air and I wanted to be honest with anything I did. It is a right in that manner to keep that bridge of communications with anyone to be trusting. So that leaves it up to themselves as artists if they want to do buisness with me in the future. It also leaves any friends if they wish to keep speaking to me in the same manner.
One of my biggest fears of posting any art even by my hand is if it would be appreciated at all at any time when I put it up. I have been on here for two or so years and you can say that hindered me to draw at times over what could possibly happen.
It's another reason I stuck to what I knew in gifts for anyone, even one person in particular, you do what you know. I'm a writer at heart and dabble in drawing on occation.
My intentions are never to hurt the intended subject of the art and in many cases is more of dedication to whichever individuals involved. I'm not a pervert. I don't do yiff images all the time or think of getting them done. I've always loved stories better.
I removed any images of mine from the past that fit otherwise into that if someone would be offended by seeing them on my page.
The only thing I fear now is if I try to make more art will it be taken the same reception or if I try to get a commission piece from someone an artist, will they hesitate if they feel drama will be attached? Or if I have a piece commissioned at one point or draw something, will I have to again remove it later because of someone's disagreement further in time?
I'd rather not lose any trust and such with any artist or anyone I do get commissions from because they don't deserve that in any way. I support artists here fully in this is how they at times try to make their income. It's just a bonus that they take time from their days to work on whatever you give them. I'm very thankful for that. I don't want to shatter any bonds or drag their names through the mud on my behalf. Professionally it's embarassing and humiliating on all parties when that is never the intent.
This is one of the things that hurts most is when the time and effort these individuals put into things that are beautiful on result, they can never see the light of day and for the artists that's a terrible thing.
I do understand the sacredness of anyone's character, again which is why I always had second doubts on posting any art here. Or even so long it took to finally have some courage to do get commissions done. Even with so much red tape, I never wanted anything bad to come out of it. I also don't want it to reflect badly on anyone in their first time in getting commissions done.
The timeline thing in a much bigger perspective was not just going to be commissioned art, but of my hand too. I can write and I do draw, but explainations are never a strong suit to me. I wanted to detail the highlights of the past three years and not just of myself but those I've been around. Nothing short of tribute and to celebrate successes and maybe any failures along the way. No one would have been used negatively. The commissioned pieces were to fall into more special scenes and highlight and show more of importance and well show that extra mile of effort to who was involved. I was going to add my own poetry and showcase them in a specific order as if to tell a story. My way to showcase those that are important to me that I know and it was for the world here to get a better visual of that. If this ever gets done, I'll be much wiser on this.
I'll have more artists get information if they feel they need it.
If they can't do a particular piece they are always free to tell me so, that never changes.
If it seems questionable in the material, they can contact parties involved for their characters if they must.
Only something more questionable will fall on my shoulders, never someone else's, that won't happen again.
On another note I have read to an extent where this has been talked about and on a few things I do have to reply.
We all make mistakes and we all try to learn from them the best we can. It shouldn't matter where and how we meet someone, the fact is they have an impact on our lives. They could be that person you see on the bus everyday, or someone and somehow you bump pathes with on the way to work or out of nowhere. That same thing holds true. Taken how the internet has changed much of society, things adapt and shape themselves accordingly even to this. This culture here thrives on that in order to survive.
We all do different things that might seem crazy at times but have the same good intentions of those that we could see everyday. If it can somehow shape something better even from it's presentation it should be more welcome than feared. Again everything is a learning experience, there is much I would do differently but you have to take that step and walk in someone else's shoes before passing judgement on anyone. We're all that person who works at the fast food restaurant, or the one that was late to that meeting or forgot that birthday gift. How often do we find creativeness and ingenuity in order to set things right? In the right ways, that gift we try to show those we care or have obligations to are what makes the future brighter. That's why we have transportation and more modern conveniences like this and medicine. It's the overall well being of someone else is what brings them out, thinking other than yourself.
In a world driven more on negativity, it's only reasonable to always assume the worst on what a person might do and do next. In many cases now we see a darker future with the inability to work, have enough food or getting through each day. Who is there to say that an act of kindness and compassion to another is wrong? This is all I have tried to do for someone and anyone I come across. It's not normal to think of another but it shouldn't be rare to aid someone or share or go out of your way for someone no matter how much or little they hold for you. If more people got of their chairs and instead of complaining as they tend to do these days and criticize others in their actions, and really submerge themselves back to reality. They need to learn not to make this here their utopia but where they go after they leave the online world because that's what truely matters.
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If she didn't want gifts from you, she shouldn't have accepted them.
If she doesn't want her character drawn with yours in provocative mannerisms, she shouldn't have RPed it out in the first place. T_T
You don't need to explain yourself.
Internet drama makes me lol.
Seriously, I don't know why she got all spastic in the first place. >.>;
Amen.
And to be honest, from what I hear, I just think it all boils down to her being jealous by not getting such 'gifts' from the one she really 'wishes' should and would. =P But that is just my opinion.
Just cheer up buck and learn to have fun. Don't let stuff like this, get ya down.
Internet is sad, to be honest. Besides that. You can't guarantee that the right story will always be told. But even if you make long journals explaining yourself, people won't take the time to read or comprehend them, so usually they do no good.
Your best bet is to just forget her, and everything that had to do with her. Move on, find new friends, and keep them close. ^-^
As for the artists, just don't worry about them! There will always be artists out there to draw for you, if you need them. But seriously. Listen to Heshana and meeee.