WTF is wrong with people?
10 years ago
Getting banned from a stream simply for my screen name (I won't get into who did it specifically to spare you the drama) got me to thinking: is it worth it at this point to just fucking change everything because morons out there have no idea to function when a certain word comes up? Like Nazi?
See, I grew up with Hogan's Heroes and I find Nazis to be funny in a Cobra Commander misguided evil sort of way. Maybe that's letting them off the hook with a lot, but then when I consider it critically, not really. They're still laugh-worthy.
Other folks don't get it, and go all kneejerk in their mental retardation against the mere mention of the word. "Why would you want to use the name Nazi? It's so hateful!"
It reminds me of a time back in my animation days when I had started collecting and archiving some of the old WWII propaganda stuff from Disney, and had some of it pasted in my cubicle. Donald Duck and Goofy with armbands. The overly evil-ized Disney Nazi. A little sketch of our Alpha Bits "A" dressed up like Adolf Hitler with his pushbroom moustache and his hand up in the salute. One of the Jewish workers there saw it one day and threw a shit fit. They made me take it all down and apologize to her. I thought it was dumb.
I think the same shit is dumb now.
Why?
Ah, here's the part nobody ever bothered or bothers to fucking ask, because they just assume something and run with it.
I'm part Jewish. A good portion of my family tree was chainsawed off in Krakow and then more in Dachau.
But... but...
Oh, the irony! What will you slack-jawed retard fucks say now?
Yeah, I didn't think so. Stop bombing the people you propose to stand up for in your Social Justice War.
See, I grew up with Hogan's Heroes and I find Nazis to be funny in a Cobra Commander misguided evil sort of way. Maybe that's letting them off the hook with a lot, but then when I consider it critically, not really. They're still laugh-worthy.
Other folks don't get it, and go all kneejerk in their mental retardation against the mere mention of the word. "Why would you want to use the name Nazi? It's so hateful!"
It reminds me of a time back in my animation days when I had started collecting and archiving some of the old WWII propaganda stuff from Disney, and had some of it pasted in my cubicle. Donald Duck and Goofy with armbands. The overly evil-ized Disney Nazi. A little sketch of our Alpha Bits "A" dressed up like Adolf Hitler with his pushbroom moustache and his hand up in the salute. One of the Jewish workers there saw it one day and threw a shit fit. They made me take it all down and apologize to her. I thought it was dumb.
I think the same shit is dumb now.
Why?
Ah, here's the part nobody ever bothered or bothers to fucking ask, because they just assume something and run with it.
I'm part Jewish. A good portion of my family tree was chainsawed off in Krakow and then more in Dachau.
But... but...
Oh, the irony! What will you slack-jawed retard fucks say now?
Yeah, I didn't think so. Stop bombing the people you propose to stand up for in your Social Justice War.
Stream host: "Sure I can draw a request for you. What is your character?"
I: "A shark, it's on my FA."
Stream user: "Can I see your FA page?"
I: "Sure" *sends link*
User: "What is wehrmacht_furs?" he asked.
Host: "What?"
User: "Sounds nazi."
Host: "Sorry, goodbye. Banned. I will do the same to any and all folks bringing religion in here."
User: "That guy sure killed the mood."
Although I am just German.
But that's sufficient.
My example:
Playing "World of Tanks", using a Russian KV-2.
I encounter an enemy KV-2, and nuke the hell out of him.
Enemy KV-2:
"Fuck you Russian bastard"
Me:
"I'm not Russian."
Enemy KV-2:
"Why the fuck are you then using a russian Tank?"
The exchange went on some more, but already at this stage it had reached 100% hilarity:
a) I have to assume that his opinion is that every player using russian tanks has to be a russian
b) he thinks all russians are idiots.
c) adding A and B results in himself assumign himself to be a total idiot. As such, he is clearly entitled to whatever opinion he states, and his quixotic behaviour makes complete sense.
I still wonder why he didn't just type "I'm an idiot" - because that was how he appeared to me, ignoring me driving leisurely past him to aim at his rear.
KV-2's really are slow, approaching him took me almost 20 seconds, but his turret was looking totally into the wrong direction, scanning the area for i-dont-know-what, so my speed was good enough to close the distance and get into range for an one-shot-kill.
When I mentioned I'm german he switched over to call me "Nazi".
With my conclusions drawn from his initial talk, I told him that I was muchly for "Heil Kräuter" ( "medical herbs" ).
Ever since, as people using the term "Nazi" seem to have no idea what it is, I casually mention that I love "Heil Kräuter" - I really do, lot's of teas in my cabinet.
This reassures these mentally infirms, as persuading them from anything else, or trying to explain the meaning of the term they used, is normally pointless.
However, in the last year I switched over to use the ignore-function of games much more aggressively, as this type of chitchat is slowly becoming exhausting - it is very repetitive, after all.
Pretty sure sometime a long time ago we had a cool discussion on Rommel on a tank piece I did and we got into the differences between the Wehrmacht and Nazis and where they even clashed on occasion about practices in war.
either way, other peoples opinions are no reason to have to change your own. the "having to apologize at work" thing while kind of dumb, was probably more to get whomever it was to shut up than anything.
Don't ever change, evil_art_nazi. Draw more SS Sasha just to compensate.
It used to be the liberals who were about reals and the conservatives who were about feels. Now the liberals are the ones who practice Truthiness.
Yeah, you're offended? You want a fucking medal for it?
People have grown so over-sensitive that parody and satire is no longer allowed. The problem is, no one has the balls to go to that person who complained and go, "Calm down. You're taking it a little far." Instead, they are coddled and pat on the back.
Once your set the precedence, you can never go back. Once you allow one person to be offended and let them have their way. Then others want the same treatment. In due time, people and companies develop entire departments for the sole purpose of making sure they do not offend anyone. Then the populace just grows into a bunch of whining children that any small thing will get them up and arms.
It's like people still losing their minds over the swastika. Everyone forgets that for millennia before the 1930s, it was a symbol of peace. Used commonly in many cultures and religions even to this day. But as soon as someone sees a swastika, they instantly think of Nazism and lose their little minds.
Just how the world is these days Jeremy...
Because I know that conservatism always loses in the end. I just never thought I'd be a conservative simply because I'm against hypersensitivity and prejudice against white males.
Like a lot of people don't realize I'm a feminist due to the fact that I'm against hating men.
Even if we were to take it to the notes. We can banter back and forth for days and days and just get more and more pissed off at each other until we resort to hurtful comments.
You're never going to change my mind on how I see the world and I'm not going to change yours. So, arguing about it is not going to accomplish anything.
While the word Nazi brings up a hell of a lot of negative images it's all about how you use the word, not the word itself. Nazi is generally used these days to describe someone's attitude toward a particular topic, especially if they have a very strong stance toward it.
I have a friend who is a cop and is very focused on road policing. He takes a very hard line approach to traffic offences and is regularly called a traffic nazi by myself and others. So while he may be a "Nazi" he's not a homicidal nut, hell bent on world domination.
There's nothing wrong with the word, just the people who have thin skins and no understanding of context.
*end rant*
I think that's where this name stems from. At least, that's how I translated it. You're a guy protecting your assets I guess. People go "you're an asshole because you got me yelled at!" No, you're just forcing them to play by the rules, because they were cheating you.
We live in a country where social grace has descended into a rampant snake pit of "I DON'T LIKE THAT MAKE IT GO AWAY!"
I bartend for a living. If you're an asshole bartender who never has fun, you're a "bar nazi." If you can't stand the people who don't know the difference between "there, their, and they're," you're a "grammar nazi." If you ban people from your stream for what is ultimately a poke at an influential, albeit tragic time in history, you're a "controlling-prick-who-can't-let-it-go...nazi." *Ahem*
It's just a word. We spend far too much time nitpicking the semantics that we lose sight of what's important. You, this time, were the unfortunate recipient of someone who doesn't appreciate satire, sarcasm, or, in fact, a healthy dose of irony.
My respect to both you, as well as your ancestry, Jeremy. I think you, unfortunately, just discovered another cog in the machine who's knickers got a little too twisted about something far too trivial.
But I was implying on his rapping music vid "Be or not to be" with black leather wearing Nazis :P
However the movie is so fucking great hilarious, especially concerning the - all-too-valid fact - that a small, black-haired guy wanted to make a master race of great healthy athletic blondes, supported by a cripple ( who happened to love communism ) and a fat morphine-junkie ( who loved american black peoples jazz music ).
To be fair, World War II was one of my favorite subjects and covers my favorite era of History. The Germans of the time had some exceptional technological innovations. I'll agree with the person above. I recall a time when you and a bunch of other artists had to deal with bullshit and often many of them were called evil art nazis over the whole ordeal. I've been called at least 50 different types of nazi so far, so it doesn't help that the word has no meaning to me beyond this: A cheap insult that is easily referenced since a dumb fuck has nothing else.
Captured this screenie while watching a movie on netflix.... xD
Immediately I imagined some SJW demanding Neflix be condemned and removed from the internet.
Basically, if they get offended then it's their problem, not yours. One person doesn't like the word 'nazi'? Okay, they don't like it, that's no-one's problem but theirs. The stupidity of being banned for having a word in an artistic alias is pretty big, and it shouldn't have happened.
Alas, you cannot reason with, or argue with these people. They live in their own insulated bubbles where dissent among the ranks is not tolerated and they alone are the sole deciding authority on what is acceptable in it and what is not. Asking them to change their worldview or presenting them with the correct version of events usually results in strings of ad hominem attacks leveled at your character and failing that threats and physical violence. I find no point in associating with them and would seek no furthered contact with the artist in question or their clientele, since all they have to go on are bully tactics and over something as innocuous as your name to boot.
And seeing as how a stream is, in fact, a personal space, isn't using the term 'politically correct' is a bit of a big stick to swing. Not speaking to you, per say, but the people trying to make it a point like getting band from a stream is an assault on your person by a whole nation.
I mean, were you assaulted? Were you even asked to defend yourself? to which you could say "It's ok, I'm
blackJewish, so I can say those things"?Do I think you should change? Well, that depends on if the change is in you. If it isn't, no one can make you, etc, etc. If it is, then you see something in yourself that maybe you don't want to see any more, and I think it would be healthier to shed something toxic then to hold on out of spite and pride.
Do I think you should be beyond reproach if you don't change? ... nnn. I don't have a problem with it, but we can both see where some people get their crazy ideas from.
Your username makes me think more of the Soup Nazi on Seinfeld.
Easily offended people have ruined this world.
Believe me, I'm not stranger to what happens when an idiot with a narrow mind has a banhammer slung over their should and is ready to swing it the second someone even so much as hints at something they don't like or don't want to hear.
I don't get the joke behind your name. But nor do I see it and think anything other than "oh, that's Bernal". It's a name, just like nazi is a word. Same as nigga, fuck, and a nearly endless list of other supposedly offensive words. A lot of people can't seem to comprehend that a word is just that, a word; a collection of letters thrown together to form a more complex sound by the mouth and throat. Not a rock, or a sword, or a bomb, or anything other than the movement of air that can barely even be felt. The ludicrous number of simpletons on this planet can't seem to fathom how to simply move on with their day upon encountering these "offensive" words; it's as if they think that by uttering them reality will somehow be torn asunder and hordes of demons will spew forth to rip them apart by the limbs.
Someone said or wrote a word. So what. The planet is still revolving and people are still going on with their day as before. What has changed? Nothing. Yet the masses can't figure this out and so they let a word get under their skin and then flip out over it as if it's a sign the apocalypse is coming. Sadly, there is no cure for stupid. You have only two real options. Let them continue to be ignorant and move on, or constantly try to adjust yourself so that you don't accidentally offend every single random person you come across. Personally, I say choose the first option. If they want to live in their closed off vision of reality, then let them sit in the dark. In this day and age, we may be few in the light that stand in the light of a world not burdened by such trivialities as racism or "offensive" words, but we get to enjoy the higher intellectual levels of a mind open and willing to hear and see reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs
he sums it up so well
/zen-lets-all-get-along-rant
untill people start being asshats, i wont ban someone over a name.
even if it irks me.
I not only grew up with Hogans' heroes, ( was born in 66, so yes, I did see reruns, but I didn't care..I still LOVED the show)
but my father served from 41 to 45 on the USS Louisaina in WW2... so as far as I'm concerned, I LOVE your definition of the Nazi nametag you took being "funny in a hogan's heroes / cobra commander goofy sort of way"
YAY FOR YOU!!
"Yeah, you fun-Nazi."
What was once dubbed "the mantra of the 90's" seems to have only gained strength: "I am offended." Ah, political correctness (aka Thought Control).
Meanwhile Stalin's atrocities get overlooked all of the time...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/706.....say-i-m-rather
just because you have the word Nazi on your account. I hope FA doesn't do the same thing.
You don't gotta change everything because someone took it out of context,they can't handle a "bad word" then why are they on the internet? :D
Are you fucking kidding me? Do people need to be encased in plastic hamsterballs for the rest of their lives?
1 Never met a real "Nazi"
2 Don't know you very well
3 Never met a German soldier from that era
4 Are easily butthurt
5 Have other social issues that need therapy.
stay you, stay real
That is why I have more "haters" than fans.
Laugh at them and you take their power away.
Ridicule them and they become clowns, rather than boogeymen.
Not everyone understands that, or realizes why its important.
-Badger-
Some people have a family history with it or just find it disagreeable, and it's their stream their right to determine who gets to stay and who doesn't. Some people make assumptions about the kind of person who would want to go around calling themselves an evil Nazi (I get it but then I'm familiar with your art/posts here.
There are some people who call themselves such because they really do feel they are such-that doesn't mean people should assume it about you).
Maybe it's discriminatory or whatever-just take it as their way of telling you that they're not someone you'd get along with anyways and move on.
However, I guess it was a US chat, so I guess you ran into somebody just as sensitive, or, for US terms, overly sensitive.
I'd say you'd need to keep in mind that it is, for a number of people , a hot-spot, polarizing topic.
Like when somebody would have a name like "kill-all-americans", "fuck_republicans" or "fuck_democrats".
Because that is how some people will perceive anythign containing "Nazi", "german" or, for that matter "may contain nuts".
There is no need to change your name, unless you sincerely wish not to edge with such people, be it for specific purposes ( learning from another artists by peeping into his chat ) or for other reasons ( future employer ).
But, as you use a name that can , no, will be problematic for certain people, you should get yourself a somewhat thicker skin in regards to people overreacting or going nuts. That it's people that don't think about what your names actually means - well, they short-circuit at the single word, independant of everything else around it.
No chance there wit such people.
And I am aware that it's pretty difficult to avoid edging anywhere - besides, one gets as slippery as a wet piece of soap trying that.
And for Nazi stuff, remember playing on a WWII game U.S. server, a guy from Germany joined called Die Juden, which is German for "The Jew", but instantly banned him for a racial name for saying "death to jews" in his name, instead of asking to change name or question it.
As for being banned for your username, I'm surprised it was approved in the first place. I can tell you MMO's have serious name filters and anything like that wouldn't make the cut. I met a guy who tried to get around it by naming his character Aadolph and got a mod warning so he chose "Blackius" instead of "Hhitler" as he originally intended. I asked why he thought that was a good idea in the first place and he could only say "Because it's funny", so that rather revealed he just wanted to troll people.
There's far too often a group of people who seem to go out of their way to be offended, often offended on the behalf of others, trying to eagerly win gold in the misery olympics and let everyone else bask in how enlightened they feel that they are.
SJW's are absolute trash.
I always liked your work and sense of humor honestly, people are way too senselessly offended nowadays. Don't sweat it.
The fanatic blind fury of a nation incensed to a degree that no one could have ever predicted shows to a very high degree the ridiculousness that sanctioned bad behavior can reach if it's allowed. It's a dark reflection upon humanity and that was a very dark chapter and losses incurred on both sides are not trivial.. but the frenzy of the day is easily caricatured as they did quite effectively in Hogan's Heroes which you noted.
Anyone with even the slightest HINT of common sense can understand that it's this caricature of that fanaticism that you are using with your name. Anyone who knows you realizes that you don't fit well with the Nazi mentality itself. A quick look at your business partners would dispel that shit pretty quickly. But it's not the able-minded who tend to have these almost equally fanatic opinions and force their viewpoint over these few trigger point items on others. It's unfortunate that you were banned from a channel over something so... empty. They likely would have been fine with you in there if your name had been "Antagonist_Art_Pot" despite the obvious connotation THERE, but after so many replies already, it's kinda beating a dead horse. WE know what you meant.
It goes a long way to answer... "is there a point where a person becomes so stupid that they don't know when they are stupid"? Forgive them, Bernal. They didn't know. o.o They didn't know.
Reclassify the word, give it a new meaning, use it WITHOUT the Hate/Evil and it will no longer stand for that. Like my buddies and me who toss "Fag" around. It has nothing to do with gay, but in the way South Park portrayed it.
People don't want to think, man. They just want to go on kneejerk reaction, gut instinct, and be right. Arrogance and Ignorance.