Well, you can't Watch them if they blocked you, but you can still Unwatch them.

Maybe they just don't want to acknowledge your existence. I mean looking at it in a cold hearted way.

Except the only way to discover what someone has favourited is by actively looking through their favourites. Which at that point, your harassing them.

I get a notification [1F] in my status bar, It tells me who faved which picture and when they did it. I don't need to look through anybodys profile to see if they faved a picture that I posted.

That's not quite true; if you own a piece you can click on the number beside the Favorites area and see who has favorited that item. Mind, only the uploader can really do that as far as I know.

:( I hate when I block someone it doesn't immediately have them unwatch me and it is just really creepy, one person that was severely harassing didn't unwatch until 9 or 10 months later...

fapfelipe blocked me for stating an opinion on pink belly buttons...which, he's stopped doing since btw.

sorry to hear that man that's kinda unfair on his part I think

go look at his art and look at the belly buttons!

I mean whats unfair is him blocking your for stating your opinion.

to be fair, it didn't need to be said, i could say far worse things...but those butts he draws! they're amazing!

Is this related to that tweet about being blocked by another artist?

Pretty much, now I can't admire their content because they dislike us for some reason.

Well it's their loss because you guys are awesome.

^this

Well, you know much more on why they're like that and of what they've said about disliking the community :)

Maybe they consider that a form of harassment like rharassing someone in the comments maybe

Give me an example of how favouriting art could be a form of harassment.

Idk maybe they don't want any connection to the person its more like a restraining order than a block

Then it makes no sense to allow users to continue watching and viewing their art.

True true than idk

Anna:

I think it's better you can still see their works, otherwise blocking could be abused by some users to hide some nasty stuff like eg. some misusage of your characters (including offensive/hate contents) or whatever (you may not care but some people do, including me^^).

Still, I also can't see why it should be impossible to fav their stuff. Or to +watch if you're not auto-removed from watching.

Someone could say that fav flooding is harassment but in fact... that sounds silly to me:P unless someone would +fav just to unfav and harass the blocking party with 'favourite has been removed by the user' and you could only guess who's doing that and why (sometimes mass unfaving could be meaningful if it's done by not blocked peple). But I think that the system could simply allow faving but block notifications(so the blocking party wouldn't have to see particular nicknames there;)). Everyone happy I believe. But who in FA staff would come up with that and introduce it?:P

Have to agree, just make all activity by that user invisible rather then limiting their access to the website.

Belligerent users sometimes favorite, and un-favorite artwork repeatedly, causing spam notifications to build up in the harassed user's inbox. It's childish, but I've seen it happen.

That could be prevented by simply giving a timer. Like you can only fav and unfav once per 24 hours or something.

smartest answer among them all imo. *thumbups*

Well, when faved you get a notification. Maybe it's to stop people hammering the fave button and sending them constant '[name] likes your- Wait, no they- Like- Nope- Love- Hate- Love!- Hate-' notifications?

I'm assuming, mostly just a theory right now, just going off how people can on-off twitter followers or likes on facebook (which also spam notifications as a result). Mild annoyance at most unless loads of people do it.

Because Triggered

I wish I was joking, but there's a looooot of people in the fandom with thinner skin than a dry onion

b-but onions have layers , so sayeth Shrek. lol :)

This shit. Right here. I was just starting to enjoy the fact that the Fandom seemed to be wishing up and joining in on the lulz; having enough selfawareness to realize and accept that you look like a weirdo from the outside and being able to laugh at that.

But now I'm noticing a growing trend of SJW bull shit in the fandom. Where you can't say shit because feels and any disagreement is seen as harassment and what ever xphobia word is popular.

S'truth. Really is, sadly. Too many people with the feels stick firmly jammed up their ass.

Me, I can laugh at just about anything, including myself. Sometimes especially myself. :D

I was hoping it wouldn't reach this fandom but it was bound to happen eventually. It's not like furries have ever been known for being wise and emotionally mature..

Thankfully there are liberals in positions of power who realize this whole SJW thing is completely toxic and total bullshit and needs to stop. Hopefully as mainstream society pushes back against it, THAT will become the new norm. I'm tired of rich white kids fighting for people who never asked for it because they feel guilty over getting dealt a great hand.

Yeah no I'm not rolling political ideologies into this because they're both massively fucked up. I lost all trust in the "liberal" side when Emma Sulkowicz was paraded around the Presidential Address like some kind of hero. They don't care about you, just your vote.

Pretty much. XD Though I meant it more in that when people among the proponents of a stance or ideology complain about the very thing they supported until recently, it's clearly a problem that needs to be dealt with. I'd love to see some middle ground on this, but the golden rule (a.k.a. "don't be a dick"/"treat others as you would like to be treated") doesn't rally support easily or make headlines..

If they insta fave every pic in your gallery, they'd be spamming you with notifications, therefore kinda harassing. Might be because of that. I know many people seeing it way on dA, they feel spammed with faves

Playing devil's advocate here.
A random individual makes lots of sexual creeper comments to an artist who openly eschews RP and has a partner.
Artist asks the individual to stop. Individual continues unsolicited sexual advances.
This is FA, so administrative policing is always hit or miss. Artist is thin-skinned and upset by the encounters, blocks the individual, who proceeds to regularly favorite and un-favorite things in the artist's gallery as a continued form of interaction.

It's a stretch, but I've seen dumber things.

There's a troll both here and on Eka's Portal who (on EP at least) had a folder in his favorites gallery for "Stuff I Can't Stand". He was later forced to delete the folder, but he was using it as a way to mark stories and artwork that he personally disliked for various reasons, using it to harass the artists and writers by citing them as "bad examples" and "terrible work" and "morally reprehensible."

So there's one way that favoriting can be used as harassment. *shrug*

Sometimes is very annoying

Can't you just get that person removed from this site? Or is it impossible?

Being blocked means you cannot contact that person in any fashion.

O. Well all in all you're still a good artist

I tried to bid on an artists YCH the other day to find I was blocked.

Never met this artist before.
Never commented on their work
Never even spoken to them.
I was just watching them cause I liked their art.

So I was like, buh wuh?

lol

I know that feel

On Weasyl, I was browsing the main site's main uploads, and came across an artist with /fantastic/ artwork. I thought, "holy wow, this guy's stuff is great!" and went to favorite his material... only to be met with the message, "Whoops! Sorry! It appears you can't do that since this user has blocked you! : D" and I'm like, "Whoa wait what??" I've never met this guy, never talked to him, never even knew of his existence, yet he apparently knows of me enough to block me??

I decided to browse his profile to see if anyone else were perhaps getting through to messaging on his shout board... only to see that on his profile, first thing in his BIO... he says, "Sorry if you find that I've blocked you. I block those who have disgusting artwork. I'd rather browse this beautiful site without being uncomfortable."

and I was like, "???Rude???" It didn't bother me on a personal level? XD I get that my art wouldn't appeal to everyone, but??? Excuse me?

I dunno, man. Some people are ridiculous.

I think I know the person that you're referring to. I don't know if he blocked me yet or not though.

Some people are melodramatic, self righteous and stupid.
There's a good filter plugin for Chrome that accomplishes the task without making me seem like a cock.
That way I don't have to see a flood of 20 crayon drawings of Simpsons characters in stereotypical cartoon distress positions every week or so, but in such a way as not to isolate people who might want to see my stuff or communicate.

^ ^ ^

the world needs more individuals such as yourself

I have things I'd rather not see myself, personally. But damn... to outright block an entire someone without notification or for valid reason is just... beyond me. XD

I was never really given a choice whether or not to fit perfectly into a BDSM submissive/bottom archetype. It's probably not my fault that I have a hardon for cybernetics and tentacles. If you ask me why I'm into forcible slavery as a sexual fantasy, I honestly couldn't give you an answer. More to the point, I like other men.

Do I have any right to judge someone for getting off to, for example, inflation? No.
It's outside my comfort zone. Way outside it. But my interests aren't exactly vanilla.
And if one of those people likes my work? Shit, that's awesome. Enjoy. Hell, tell me what part of the drawing you were looking at when you came.
Fave and save, baby!

If I can avoid the content that squicks me without stepping on anyone else's toes, I'm gonna do exactly that. Otherwise, I'm a big boy, I'll suck it up.

I actually understand that on a bit of a petty level. Originally, I was weary of you too, just because of the company you kept. Several of your friends (one in particular) I really didn't like so I never commented on anything. However with time it seems that you're not AS close to that person and thus I did start commenting and discovered that you're actually pretty cool, even though that one friend of yours is a douche-nozzel. Now I'm all over everything you do. I think I bought stuff from you on a few occasions. I'm your biggest fan now...*Unblinking Eyes*

Daw!
I'm glad that you were able to see past my friend-ships and I totally understand, a lot of the time "Birds of a feather flock together"
However, thats usually not the case for me, I keep all kinds of company and I know sometimes my friends can be dicks but not me!

I'm just a silly fluff-butt. :T

Also which friend or ex-friend are you referring to out of curiosity XD You can note me, and I won't let them know either. I'm just genuinely curious.

Something like that happened to me, too. But I was like "I'm a nobody. I barely even comment; why would someone block me?" o_O

I'm sure it had something to do with maybe them not liking my art or something, because I've literally never spoken to them or had a conversation with them before.

XD

People are crazy (and come up with their own drama whether or not they've even talked to a person). >_>

Anyone who's put-off by your gallery has problems.

I thought mine was super tame, but yours is vanilla by comparison. Not that's a bad thing, I have a thing for underpants. A big thing. ANd your gallery is full of them.

Not... to be weird or anything...

Probably because they can just spam favorite all of your art otherwise /;

well if they do spam favorite all your art that would just mean people would see it in their fav's and thus bring more recognition to the art, this wouldn't be a bad thing xD

it would spam your inbox tho :0

yeah, but its extremely easy to get rid of those notices, just hit the select all fav notifications and get rid of them, and if their doing it a lot just wait it out and ignore it then clear it after its all said and done cause they basically are like "I hate you so much I'm gonna freely advertise ALL your art so everyone will see how GOOD you are" xD

true xD

Someone actually blocked me because of that

Anna:

since when having your art faved and featured is spam? heh :P
Still, I think the easiest sollution would be to just have the fav notifications from blocked users turned off:) So you don't have to see their username/s in your meassages but they can still fav and advertise your works:D Sometimes you may hate the person but adore the art:) And there are some people who can approach those 2 independently.

I tried to like a persons picture and I found out i was blocked.

Idk who you piss off? If you dont mind me asking, and why bother trying look at they're art if this is the case, im sorry if im missing somthing here maybe this/it's a whole missunderstanding? I dont know..........

It's retarded that you can't watch someone, or even fav their work.

I get this.

I believe that once you block someone as well, that person should lose access to view your page. It just comes up blank for them. Can't see your art, journals, or even go to your profile. However blocking should work for both sides. What angers me about the system now is that if someone's harrassing you, they can block you to prevent you from responding back as the spam you with hate comment after hate comment, unless you block them back.

Ultimately, unless people stop using the block button as a weapon and against it's intended use, I feel like it will always be imperfect.

Well, probably you can't do anything that creates a message for them (including watching and faving)

That's probably what it is. I'm sure they could make it so your activity doesn't display, without curating FA.

I imagine it's mainly for people who are blocking users who have history of harassment. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who have blocked a user because they don't even want to see their username, but said person is still following them and still favoriting all their works they just get an uneasy feeling about it. In their mind they're just feeling really uncomfortable about the fact that person is still watching their works and getting random notifications of favorites from that user is just a reminder that that person is still watching them.

Frankly I imagine they could potentially get around this idea by making it so the user can favorite their works, but the submissioner doesn't get a notification about it, but I doubt FA is willing to implement a feature like that.

Because faving can be used as blocked harassment by faving/unfaving and flooding their notifications.

It'd be nice if we had an option to turn on/off fave notifications. I don't really care for them.

I agree. Any other activity can be either positive or negative. But a Favourite or a Like, those can be NOTHING BUT POSITIVE. It means they like your art. There's no reason to block positive activity.

For some people, these things go deeper than skin-deep. The very prospect that someone you've blocked is still looking at your stuff, and favouriting it, and sending you notifications through that can really un-nerve/unsettle some people.

very much this :/ when I block someone I don't want to see them at all, especially if they've caused me great harm. It makes me feel like they are getting what they want, like they might critique what I post or share it or make fun of it... I guess that thinking is a little paranoid but when you are treated like shit for 7 years I think you lose your cool...

Still have a situation when that happened. I got death threats from a watcher about someone that is featured quite often in my commissions I buy from artists. They were harassing artists and the person(who could soon be my significant other) we were both receiving death threats from said person. Wrote up a trouble ticket asking for admins to take action. No one responded for six months during this time I had blocked them but they kept favouriting art and leaving hateful journals about me. Admins never took any action so I just closed the ticket. Was rather annoyed at the admins for failure to act on DEATH THREATS!

The pathetic admins of this site still have tickets from 6+ years ago open. Opening a "ticket" on this ad infested shithole; you might as well take a trip to the next galaxy before it gets looked at; let alone fixed.

Sorry to hear about the threats though. Tis never pleasant when you have a stalker.

Look, but staythefuckawayfrommekthnxbye.

...seriously?

That one time I found out someone had blocked me when I tried to favorite something in their gallery. It was someone I had never even talked to :V That was weird.

i've had two people block me on deviantart. one i have theory on why. i am a fan of shota, i openly admit that....cuz i have a super weak spot for cute things >> and friggin kids are adorabloe....it's almsot a fact XD 90% of the people i know agree kids are adorable. the other 10% are indifferent -shrug-

the other was jsut out of nowhere, no reason or anything and was actually a good friend who had gotten close to me to the point i felt comfortable enough to turn to them and actually ask for help emotionally. i'm weird with that. well i felt fully betrayed >> still no idea. to make worse. from both dem people i had comished stuff and had to wed around to find the stuff cuz i dont always save images.

the ways found out was couldn't locate the images in favs then couldnt fav. so yeah. i was actually friends with both, but the second one was jsut. idk. it boggles me.....booggles >> must say some words weirdly. idk. jsut me. -shrug-

this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user
this favorite has been removed by the user

...maybe that's why

Ohgod.

I -hate- that shit.

Getting a favorite.. then having it removed in like 30 sec. :/

I second this

Here's a simple answer: If you have someone blocked, they can fav your work, but you don't see the messages.

Dude, your argument is that once people say "I don't want you looking at my stuff" that they'll start growing more power hungry over their content. This is the silliest shit I've ever heard. If someone didn't want you reading their diary, shouldn't they have a right to put a lock on it? So why not their portfolio of art? Its the exact same situation, its an expression of emotion and imagination, and it doesn't belong to anyone but the content creator. I'll agree with you once you can convince Prince to open his vault and release all of his private albums and music videos to the public.

but see that's the thing though isn't it? putting a block on someone doesn't actually block anything except the ability to hit the fav button. you can still view all their art. you can still save it to your computer if you like it enough and heck you know it doesn't do much good in the long run anyway because it's free and easy to just make a new acct and get around the block that way. oh sure if you get caught doing that you get in trouble but unless you make it obvious you have more than 1 acct or that you had a previous acct that was blocked than nobody would ever know anyway.


blocking doesn't really solve anything. it's currently a half-assed attempt to give some people piece of mind when they are being bothered by someone they dont like for whatever reason. a block should be exactly that an ACTUAL BLOCK that prevents said user from accessing your art. but instead it's like having a chain link fence set up in front of you. you can see everything but you cant get close enough to say hi or i like your art. and one the one hand that means that the oerson who blocked you can ignore your existence but on the other hand what did you really accomplish by blocking that person? and can you be sure that it did any good in the long run?

Its the internet. Peace of Mind is all you really have once you begin to use websites and putting yourself out there.

The struggle of having to work to jerk off.

Oh god, right? I have to actually allocate hard drive space to look at porn I've seen before...

I once got blocked by someone because he took immense offense to me putting in a request into a free request journal on another user's fa page. Said that it was the most offensive thing I could have ever done to him and how dare I not take his feelings into account before doing so and as such: goodbye forever. Don't you dare try and talk to me about it 'cause you should have known better.

Recently saw some people promoting a kick starter for him so he could set up to take pictures at AC and I thought: No... no... he's far too crazy to have a position around people like that... he's not getting any of my money.

A bit irrelevant to the question at hand but a story worth laughing at nonetheless =3

I think it's even weirder that they can still message you.

I've been blocked because someone wanted to get the last word in a discussion, and they were allowed to message me afterwards. I mean, I can block them as well, but a block should work both ways, not just one.

Simple: someone can harass you by faving/unfaving images repeatedly to clutter up your notifications.

Blocking in itself is easy to use for malicious purposes. Then again, malicious comments are the entire point behind blocking... what a mucking fess.

What do you expect? This is FA. It's crumbling to pieces, and it's only held together with duct tape. Cheap, weak duct tape.

cause some folks don't want to acknowledge you
There are also times folks have used faving to harrass the person (no they were not liking the art they were faving and unfaving repeatively)
There was a plan to update the block feature to automatically also not inform the person of updates from the artist or actually force the person to unwatch.

Probably because you looking at their art in no way affects them. But if you gave it, they get notified. If they block you and want you out of their life or done want to think about you in general a notification wouldn't allow that. Why does it matter though? Since you can in fact still see their stuff why do you have to favorite to admire it? Just look at it and move on. The blocking isn't for the person who is blocked, it's for the person who chose to block you, so they don't have to worry about you liking, commenting, or anything else that would notify them. I'm not sure why you not being able to fave is a big deal or how it'll make people power hungry? Doesn't seem like that big of a deal..

I like to keep a history of the things I've enjoyed. it helps a tonne when we are seeking inspiration. All you need to do is tap the fav button and it's neatly sorted for you, rather then having to save everything to a disc and then giving it maintenance to have the easy access to information and similar art that your favourites provides.

If blocking extends to not just faving but blocking them from being able to view the art, FA will become very cliquey with private galleries, discouraged criticism and content creators essentially being personal moderators. Users are forced to go off FA just to see artwork people are withholding from them.

Imagine if Youtube channels could block people from watching their videos unless you donate.

Except you act like people don't want others to see their art? If da had its blocking like that would you use it that way? Most people who do commissions like ych have it open to everyone not just their watchers. We're artists, we make art for ourselves, others, and everything in between. Especially people who do it for a living, aren't going to only let some see their art. There's no 'cliqu' consent with blocking. With the way you describe it, you're describing how we watch people. By your description we're creating a 'clique' of those who we would like to see their work, as in get notifications. You make it seem like there should be no blocking system at all which would allow harassment and other things to happen. As for using your favorites to organize it's kinda the same thing? If you like how someone's style looks it could be easier to look back only a page or two in their gallery rather than much more pages in your favorites that contain so many other people's works. But again blocking is for the person who blocked someone, not the person who is blocked. It's for their comfort/wellbeing/happiness. You're basically denying the fact that favoriting things is in anyway harassment, when its welcome it's not but again if you're blocked it's obviously unwanted and you wanting to ignore the fact that you're blocked and still harass them is sort of rude.

Now I'm not saying you harassed them I'm only staying that now that you have been blocked, any sort of visual attention from you is unwelcomed and if you were to try to go around that just for your own personal gain is selfish.

I'm talking about a hypothetical if blocking also prevented the user from being able to view any of your uploads. Not the current penalties of mute + no favs. I think you've taken me out of context.

I'm aware of what you mean but still if someone didn't want you to see your art you should complain. That's like someone drawing in a sketch book and them telling you you're not allowed to look. What, are you supposed to still be able to just because you like their art? You should think of them and why they don't want you to see it, in this case them and why they blocked you. They don't want to acknowledge you and would probably prefer you to do the same with them.

If blocking extends to not just faving but blocking them from being able to view the art, FA will become very cliquey with private galleries, discouraged criticism and content creators essentially being personal moderators. Users are forced to go off FA just to see artwork people are withholding from them.

Be aware: You are making the slippery slope fallacy.

Those where just some examples of ways I could see it being abused. I can't really see good reasons to prevent users from seeing artwork.

The current reasoning from blocking favs could be solved by not displaying notifications from blocked users rather then disabling the feature.

If someone has been blocked my guess is that artist doesn't want that person looking at their art at all let alone favoriting it.

Okay, but... but blocking doesn't extend to that... And there's been no hint from anyone that that's ever going to happen... It just makes it so you can't interact with that account because they don't want to communicate with you...

What if blocking that person also gives that person a 3 day ban? What if blocking that person cuts off their internet? What if blocking that person kills a puppy?

I'm playfully going to suggest you're dipping into tinfoil hat territory here, Jason ^^; Just save the picture you like into your porn folder. You DO have a porn folder, don't you?

I think at this point it should be well established that FA might not be the most comfortable site to use. Thus, Firefox Addons like FurAffinity Downloader were born. If you dont know about that, maybe you should look into it, it really helps organize art you've viewed.

Well, I personally think that anyone with a brain would not even attempt to look at the art of those artists anymore, since they by then obviously showcased their mentality. If anything , forcing donations and/or approval through favs, which defeats the essential purpose of both, would doom them to their own fall rather then giving them a solid clique of watchers. Just look at Inkbunny, which is often regarded as the site with the better interface, where cliques are not too rare.

I don't think holding grudges and/or whining about it is gonna entice them to unblock you any time soon...

I have no grudge, I just want to favourite artwork like I've been doing since I joined FA.

Because OMG IT'S SO HORRIBLE, I CAN'T BEAR TO SEE THEIR NAME BECAUSE IT TRIGGERS ME EVERY TIME

DramaDramaDramaDramaDramaDramaDramaDramaDrama

*posts to Tumblr*

Actully I'm more asking : Why block someone like you ? o_o

I mean what would be the alternative? Separating into a "dedicated totally serious sever" and "only kind of sever" options?

Have blocking make that user invisible to you, without impeding their ability to use the website. You could even make it an option where they aren't even aware they are blocked, avoiding the backlash.

Its entirely because you can force yourself into that artist's view, spamming your name (whatever name you choose to send a message to them with, from your alt accounts if you take the effort for it)

Once we give content creators the power to curate who can and cannot view art, rather then merely muting their comments, we'll start seeing it be used for malicious reasons.

Such as?

Blocking haters

• Art theft by blocking a lesser known artist and uploading their art (the only way to report it's happening is via unblocked fans)
• Using characters without permission by blocking the owners (Especially easy if the characters are fairly unknown)
• Bully certain FA users by encouraging multiple artists to block them (Suspensions are far more fair)
• Curate certain watchers and instil a hugbox or else lose access to that content entirely.

• Art theft by blocking a lesser known artist and uploading their art (the only way to report it's happening is via unblocked fans)

How would this happen because you can't favorite their work? You can still see their gallery and report it. It's an artist's responsibility to maintain proof that they made their own work.

• Using characters without permission by blocking the owners (Especially easy if the characters are fairly unknown)

Again, not being able to fav causes this because...? Character owners should save all commission correspondence to prove their ownership of the work/contact the artist directly.

• Bully certain FA users by encouraging multiple artists to block them (Suspensions are far more fair)

If someone is getting blocked by multiple artists on FA, they probably did something to warrant it.

• Curate certain watchers and instil a hugbox or else lose access to that content entirely.

How is this necessarily a problem? We aren't entitled to access to another artist's work, especially when they just upload it for free on their own gallery.

You quoted 'Once we give content creators the power to curate who can and cannot view art, rather then merely muting their comments, we'll start seeing it be used for malicious reasons. '

'the power to curate who can and cannot view art'

As in if we could block people from viewing art all-together. I assumed you understood since you had the quote in your own comment :/

But in the beginning of this journal you're referring to the power for artist's to stop people from favoriting their work by blocking them. This makes it your central premise. Your final sentence was intended to act as a supporting statement of your central premise and an argument against the ability of artist's stop people from favoriting their work by blocking them. The "malicious reasons" you listed, however, are not related to your central premise, they are related to a different one. This is generally known as a "red herring."

Not being able to favorite work of an artist but still being able to see it in the same place doesn't equate to curating.

Taken out of context. Above that quote I make a point of how out of place the favourite thing was in comparison to everything else that is unaffected.

It leads into the message that it fits closer to limiting a users access to art and how it could be worse if taken a step further.

I don't think we're owed access to people's art. You seem to think otherwise.

You've ignorantly missed the point, and insist on going around in a silly circle. This is an informal journal, not an English Language essay.

YOU asked a question; using a quote from the journal.

Jason responded.

When you respond to that; you IGNORE your own question ENTIRELY and thus the quote you initially made; instead replacing said quote with the "central premise" (lolwhat? :|) and proceed to go off on a stupid ramble.

Kindly cease smoking whatever it is you're using.

Ha. You're only hurting Jason's case even more.

I have to ask; are you born this stupid, or is it learned behavior? (rhetorical question, in case you failed to notice)

There's little to no point in a civilised conversation with you; as you're blatantly too stupid to have a coherent conversation.

(oh so cute, you added me to your widdle bwock wist!)

Me too, thus proving exactly the kind of behavior Jason, myself and others are speaking out against. :D

Quite~ Rather ironic really. Now if only I could slap the person with a god darn fish- my life would be complete >:D

That's what I have TF2 for. xD

I don't know why they do this anyways

and I love your artwork and I'll never block you

Never

Yeah I see that a lot I got blocked from  sigmax for a month but still got joronels from him and art notifications

No idea how, but to add to this; you can't watch someone who's been suspended. So that's new. :p

Why is it that when a piece you've favorited gets taken down, it permanently stays in your favorites as a grey box?

I hate that. I have huge gaps in my favourites and there's no way of figuring out what it was or who it was by in hopes of saving it another way.

I don't always want to hardsave everything I like.

Yup. It'd be nice if they'd at least let you see which artist it belong to so you could go find them again for similar pieces. Or just remove them from your gallery. I sent in a ticket about it once, inquiring if it was just my stupidity. But no. It's a feature! :D

I went though all my faves and removed every single grey box...my faves went down by a couple hundred pages...

Still receiving art while blocked is an FA glitch, if you unwatch them and rewatch them you'll get a notification saying yu can't do that, but yeah I do agree with you.

Give artists the ability to force a user to dewatch.

:p

No

Have i made a mistake Jasonafex?!

it might be because you can fave and un-fave an artwork and every time it gets faved it'll show up in their notifications

Oh no, they'll have slightly more messages to scroll down before they can select "delete all"

As if they read those silly things anyway. :I right~? Besides, that's what the "end" key is for~!

Or they could press the delete all that's on the top of the list :p

But lets be honest, there's a satisfaction to pressing that big red nuke button, right? X3

...yush x3

There are honestly some people that even just seeing the name of the user can cause anxiety


If they can fave the stuff, you see the user's still around and attempting to bug you

i feel like the block system should make it so you cant see that persons page at all
at least that would make the most since instead of being werid like how youve mentioned

That would be much worse. It's already overly abused as it is.

Do you mean like...

I have blocked "this person". Now "this person" if forced to unwatch me and my account is completely non-existent to "this person". They can't see my art in searches, others' faves and so on. Comments outside my profile, maybe... but "this person" can't click to view my profile.
Kinda like that?

That's an interesting idea. o.o Or is that too far? Hm.

Nevermind then after reading Flynn's comment, yeah. That would likely be abused. .x.

With the number of people who block for purely vindictive or petty reasons, can you imagine how bad FA would get if they could block their galleries too? :/

Yeah, I see your point. :( Agh.

i dont see why that matters though? like its there own personal choice to do so? IF someone blocked me for a stupid petty reason i wouldnt want to see their stuff anymore anyway honestly

I feel like block systems should be effective for the people who actually have others who harass them or make them uncomfortable

no one is gonna die or suffer bc someone who is whiney blocked them over something stupid
i feel like the OH NO PEOPLE WILL ABUSE THE BLOCK SYSTEM is a unimportant, unless there is something i am overlooking?

I would argue it's actually of greater importance to our social future not to enable the oversensitive, over-entitled people any more than they already are. I mean, look how bad things have gotten already. We have whole major sites devoted to people whining about their feels and accusing random people of committing imaginary atrocities. People have had their lives ruined, businesses falling apart, literally over nothing.

We need less of that, not more.

i guess i can see where you are coming from (especially about people having lives ruined bc others dont like their point of view)
but idk im more inclined to care about the people who are being harassed or joked or etc than the people who want others to stop being so sensitive
(especially since ive been constantly told my emotions were wrong/i was too sensitive about things all the time in life growin up)

So i guess we can just agree to disagree!

PEOPLE ARE FUCKING PUSSIES

1,000,000% Agreed

^THIS. If more people learned that a one-time disagreement doesn't make the other person reprehensibly evil, and that you're not entitled to have everyone agree with you when you speak, we'd probably see a lot less drama in this fandom..

Ugh I hate it, Especially cause in my situation I got blocked by two different people (different situations) all cause I corrected them, or they got made at me for some reason due to me correcting them when they said I just wanted to try and sell stuff to them... I never at any point said so -_-

I can give you an example of somebody who just randomly blocked me for no apparent reason which I view as a malicious reason.

I wouldn't mind hearing this story

Just visited this artist's stream and said I had to go meet up with my mentor and politely said good bye. After I came back I discovered I was blocked not only from entering his livestream but also his FA so I can no longer fave art, comment on it or any of his journals.

-__-

Yeah, but who cares about that primadonna anyway?

If block features didn't exist except for serious situations and people needed to learn how to co-exist with others who weren't a perfect match for them, that primadonna probably wouldn't BE one. Supporting a behaviour only reinforces it, and when you can block someone for any reason whenever you want with zero validation, guess what that does? We have admins to deal with harassment issues for a reason.

Precisely!

Don't see why anyone would want to block you guys in the first place, you're awesome <w>

Because to some people the very notion of

"Popufurs Name" has Favorited _________.

Is Triggering

Aah well....I'm actually one of those that wishes there was a system you could COMPLETELY block someone from viewing your page. I.E. an IP ban for artists so they can't just log out and see it.

This is because of major harassment problems and for the sake of peace of mind. I mean yeah it's really sucky when its done unjustly, but in the end it's the artist who has the right to dictate who can and can't look at/favorite their work. 'Unfair' or not.

I have a Deviantart favorites folder named "A Growing Pile of Shit Artwork". Whenever I add something to it, whoever submitted it gets a notification saying something along the lines of "Predicta has added 'VIDEOGAME420SWAGPICTURE' to A Growing Pile of Shit Artwork"

I want that as a Cards Against Humanity card now. :D

If they are blocking you, they likely do not want to see your presence, and favoriting them would up on their feed. Consider someone who maliciously favorites and unfavorites artwork just to annoy the user.

interesting thing that happened to me was one person i didn't watch or fav or comment on anything and they posted to the group account for the state with a link and went to their profile through the link to a journal and went to comment and it said i couldn't cause i was blocked. Which was interesting cause i don't recall ever going to their page or journals or submissions

Oh I've had that happen to me! I managed to get in touch and they said they go through their block list regularly and remove people. I'm the same way, and think everyone should do that.

Though I've had some doozies that top that I think. This one time, I'd been blocked (and rightly so) by one artist who then posted the reason they blocked me (without all the details, and generally out of context) somewhere else and incited others to harass me...apparently death threats aren't a big issue to the staff at Tumblr.

Another time, I was blocked for stating my opinion on a journal by an artist, a journal that asked for people's opinions, and when I asked why they called me arrogant, entitled, and so on...

Oh but the best has to be when I was blocked for adding some of an artists, art to my favourites...

People are a bit trigger happy with that block button...I think people need to calm down a bit. Half the stuff people block for on the internet they'd take on the chin or easily rub it off in real life. We're in the age where emotions run everything, and overrule common sense...

isn't this world amazing?

Can always just click the download button and download it. >w>

When I block someone I generally want nothing to do with them. I don't want to see them, talk to them, know they exist, I don't want them faving my shit, I generally want them far away from me as possible. If that pisses someone off, well, too bad. It's not like they're going to get sympathy from me. It's me controlling my online life. I can choose who I do and don't want to interact with. It's a good thing.

Best to just move on from that and let it go.

I've never been blocked on FA, so I can't give any valid criticisms on it.

Well, people like to use blocking as a way of totally exterminating someone from their page/channel. Like, it's SUPPOSED to do that, at least, but some sites suck at it. It seems here they like that route. It's better to leave someone alone if they block you, even if it's for a dumb reason :c

Tumbler recently got a new filter, which would be nice for FA as well
It, when somone is blocked prevents said person to find you, to contact you or to even few your galery, your posts
and even make it impossible to fave, share and comment on them

I got blocked by an artist for commenting that "although I dislike MLP, I love the story." Found out I got blocked after trying to comment on a different submission.

Hey, I may dislike certain things, but I can appreciate a good story and good art as much as the next guy :/

I don't.... what even...?

Who cares? Who honestly cares? How are there this many comments on the subject? They probably have certain activities accounts can do with each other flagged as "communication" and they just ticked "favoriting" as a form of communication somewhere else so when you're blocked, you can't "communicate" with that account.

How are there-... How are there SO MANY comments??

Because "Block Culture" is something a lot of people are genuinely sick of.

I guess... I haven't seen the horrors of block culture, personally.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that FA probably just wasn't really designed that well in that aspect to go through and automatically remove the watch when blocking someone if they're already watching you. That's the simplest and easiest plaisible answer I can think of without having to perform too strenuous of mental gymnastics to try and rationalize why it is that way and if there is some motive behind the madness. There very well could be, but I doubt it.

I have the same problem, I have random people who seem to have me blocked, some have a reason, others don't. :P Some, I like the artwork they do/submit so.

im bothered by that too as i was blocked by 2 artists by mere misunderstanding my comment and taking it as offense

they unblocked me by now and so but it was still annoying

FA in its design its one of worst design that is , tickets still take forever to reply(tho no longer "ages")
Design is choppy
Lots things not make sense

I still want to move soon to other site , but amount of effort needed to "reupload everything" makes me keep delaying it till i am better on my mind/health

Blocking a user can also be used to stop art thieves gaining access to your art, so that could come into play too.

Blocking a user does not revoke access to a gallery.

Probably easier to prevent a blocked person from fav'ing or watching than to allow it and suppress the notifications to the artist.

Kind of broken in that being blocked doesn't allow someone to 'bookmark' an image or subscribe to an artist. FA isn't exactly on the forefront of features and functionality, so this is probably in error rather than intended as a "punishment". Inconveniences blocked users into having to manually check galleries for updates and save an image or bookmark in their browser.

Also, I think a blocked user can still have an artist on their watch list if they +Watch'd them before being blocked. Kind of defeats the purpose of disabling the feature.

I remember once, a while ago, someone blocked me because they asked me to do a favor for them and I said "yes". And no, their reaction didn't make sense back then either.

But back then, there was a loophole in the blocking mechanic, as I was able to reply to their comments previously made on my uploads. I gave them a quick "WTF? You need to explain yourself!", and they pestered the admins about it, and the loophole was patched a week later. I'm guessing during that patch they wanted to remove any sort of interaction you could have with a person who has blocked you, and faving art just got thrown in with the mix to be safe.

Honestly I could care less if the people I blocked couldn't fave my work. When you block a person you usually don't want to have to deal with them anymore, so I don't get why you'd want to see them faving your work too.

I think this is a feature implemented to give artist at least the power to strike back in any way, may it be just through disrupting the blocked persons organization of their personal fav collection.

I also think that being able to remove a slight bit of freedom on this site from someone is just unfair enough to be justifiable. I like to compare to it spraying a cat with water; Its just supposed to be annoying, no more, no less.

And I think this tiny bit of power is absolutely reasonable to give to any artist. If they'd try to moralize someone, they couldn't, since that is simply not possible on the internet. At least not without spending whole days on it.

I get that social and artistical interaction are supposed to be on different levels, but we're not all stone-cold beings and do want some irrational things sometimes. If that thirst for revenge (you know, because, drama furs) is being channelled through this tool, you wont see me complaining.

The best part is nine times out of ten its reuploaded by the commissioner or the other person if its two or more characters.

im glad blocked people can't watch me/favorite my stuff. you blocked them for a reason (although i dont actually have anyone on my blocklist anymore lol), you don't want them to be able to keep subtly poking you by favoritng your stuff. what if they did a mass favorite spam or unwatch-rewatch-unwatch thing? lol

Personally, I'd like the block feature to be even more restrictive.
I agree that right now it is sort of half-assed. Half limiting and half not limiting. I'd prefer it if it was a total block... sort of how twitter would do it. Auto-removes the watch, blocks notifications, prevents total access. Peace of mind for both ends that way!

Honestly, I don't understand why blocking limits so much, myself. If they don't want to let someone interact with an artist, then a block should be all-encompassing - no viewing anything tied to their userpage URL. That way, comments are viewable on others' pages, you just can't reply to them.

Quite frankly, I find the blocking feature to be stupid in the first place. If someone is being enough of an asshole/creep/threat to deserve a block, the admins should be involved and the user should be warned, suspended, or banned appropriately. And if they don't deserve any of that? Too bad.

The alternative would be making users require a justification for the block so at least you know WHY it happened. I've seen good friends blocked for no clear reason by someone they were getting along with, with the blocking party unwilling to even talk about the offense, so they had no idea why they were even being blocked. Such a requirement would also prevent abuse rather nicely.

I'm honestly too facetious to care either way ╮(─▽─)╭

Then again, it's always nice to witness all the juicy drama these things tend to cause from a safe distance.

Makes sense to me... when I block someone, I want to sever all communication. I don't want to see their name showing up at all, even if it's a notification that they "favorited" something. This site has bigger problems anyway, this is like requesting the landlord change the color of the curtains after he just set fire to the place "that's an ugly shade of charcoal black..."

This has always bothered me as well. I had a bad run-in with this one artist who's...a complete asshole, but nonethless, he does good work and I wanted to support with faving here and there. But, as he had me blocked, no dice.

It kind of throws me off, as I tend to check if I've viewed something cool before by seeing if I fav'd it or not. Can't do that with him and a couple other peeps.