Gay marriage, homosexuality
10 years ago
Yesterday the Supreme Court ruled that Obamacare be upheld. Given how it became "law" this is nothing short of corruption.
When the highest court of the land refuses to be just, you know things are getting are getting worse.
Now, comes a ruling that says that, despite the vast majority of Americans opposing it, every state must recognize homosexual marriage.
In my opinion these two rulings wreak of the same lawlessness.
Now comes the difficult part for me to admit. I am not some person repulsed by homosexuality who does not and cannot understand what it's like to be attracted to someone of my own sex more than I want to live life.
On the contrary, this far in my life I have only ever slept with men. The last time I had full on sex with another man was 17 years ago. I screwed up with my best friend not long ago but it did not get too far. That is the closest I've been to someone sexually in almost twenty years.
I've not so much as seen a woman naked in real life. The only time I've ever been french kissed was by a married woman who was trying to hit on me.
Some of you may know this about me, the reason I have remained aloof from the opposite sex is due to trauma in my childhood. Women have the ultimate power over men. We are physically stronger, but a woman can destroy a man.
I am living proof of that.
I never got over what was done to me, and what was said to make me feel so far away from the idea of being close to a woman. My male peers molested me at the same time, the transition was easy.
I am simply too damaged.
So... When I say what I say, it is not as a casual observer, it is as someone who has lived that lifestyle. Who struggles... Every second, every minute, every hour of every day for a week... or more, sometimes. I shake and sweat enduring the temptations sometimes. Dealing death to my flesh, to what I want more than anything, even life and God.
I often hang only by a thread.
This case of legalizing homosexual marriage is a shot across the bow. This is a warning...
I know many of you are practicing homosexuals. Many... This website seems to flaunt homosexuality.
I see pictures of anthropomorphic animals engaged in various forms of sodomy... It is so unrealistic. Smiles are had, usually just the slightest amount of discomfort is noted... The contrast of reality is enough to make one sick.
My first time I almost passed out from the agony of it. It was horrible. I thought it was what I wanted... As in my childhood I was exposed to, and taught that I needed to be with someone of the same sex. I remember molestation at the hands of my peers, and little else, except for flashbacks of abuse. God only knows what happened when my mind was blanking out and I was losing years of life. I do want to know. I do want to understand what happened to me when I was a child. It is a need. I need to know. Or I cannot progress.
Yet, strangely, after I recovered, I wanted more. It got riskier and riskier. Because each new experience never seemed to live up to the temptation. Yet, I craved intimacy the only way I knew how. The easiest way of all: A horny young man seeking sex from horny, older men. Yeah, like that's NOT going to happen.
At the time I was also selling and doing drugs. It only boosted my libido.
"There's nothing wrong with that"
According to the CDC, Gay men comprise of just 2% of the population, yet they are responsible for 3/4 of all new HIV infections. For people to ignore this statistic shows a major logic block in the mind.
Why do people turn their heads at what gay men are suffering? Why do well meaning people with zero experience with the gay lifestyle continue to say, "There's nothing wrong with that"?
In my opinion, because ditching my biological purpose as a man, and seeking to circumvent that by chasing other men, I am denying Gods purpose for my life. Which is to find, woo, and marry a woman. That is in celibacy. Sex destroys marriages if it is done before marriage, in my opinion.
There aren't too many people who cringe at what the Bible says more than I do. It doesn't sit right with me, and to be honest, I am disgusted some of what is said there. But that doesn't make it untrue.
Gods laws are tough, but they are there for a reason. 75% of all new cases of HIV and AIDS are proof of the dangerous, lawless, godless lifestyle most homosexuals live.
Gays are at risk for suicide. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art.....es/PMC3662085/
It's not because of persecution, although feeling isolated or hated is certainly depressing. I've been called a faggot, been picked on, slandered, even by men who were gay. In fact I had to quit a job I loved because I was being harassed by a gay man who wouldn't leave me alone.
But in my opinion, the root cause of depression isn't people not accepting them. Since when does your life happiness depend on what other people think? That is very weak.
If love was real, pure, and true, it wouldn't matter what anyone thought. It wouldn't matter if the entire world was chasing you and your mate down with pitchforks and torches, you would cling to her twice as tightly then.
No, again. Turning your back on God, and on obvious physiological functioning of your mind, heart, body and soul will always result in depression.
Gods way is harder to follow for some than others. For someone who has had their soul twisted to desire someone of the same sex for all of their sexual satisfaction, Gods ways are very difficult.
It is because Satan is real, very real, and yes, despite what ministers have said, he knows not only your thoughts, but also, and much worse, he knows what you are feeling. Satan is the master manipulator... Which is why God says manipulation of people is witchcraft. For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you as king” (1 Samuel 23)
http://bibleresources.org/witchcraft/
I recall from an early age how I hated God, and how I became bitter towards Him. How I had strange impulses and desires that consumed me, tormented me until I satisfied them. Things that were perverse, ungodly. Seeking forms of sexual satisfaction that had nothing to do with nature.
I began to see myself spiral out of control, and I knew I was heading for disaster. I had two drug overdoses. I would sleep with men anywhere, any time. In parks... It was getting worse. I knew if I didn't stop it I would end up with HIV. I took a HIV test and was pronounced negative, and I fled from the lifestyle.
Romans 1:25-27 25For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.…
Since anal sex is all I have ever known, I have seen my fair share of porn. Straight and gay. Seeing the reaction of a woman who is being sodomized for the first time is truly awful. What is being done to her body, her soul, her mind, and her heart, by a man who says he loves her, when she is baring her body to him, for him to injure her like that is absolutely detestable. It is dirty and degrading for her. It is leaving the natural use of her body, and I believe, is a damnable sin if not repented of and stopped.
I am getting off track... I wanted to say that today was a dark day for this country. They are attempting to legitimize and legislate what is dirty, filthy, immoral. One- sided in pleasure. No male soul was designed to come as close sexually with another male soul- this is why men and women are different. Born different. In nearly every way.
True love can exist between men, even stronger love than can be had for a woman, as in the case of David and Jonathan.
But that love never progressed sexually. I can say that had me and my best friend engaged in full on sex we would not be friends any more today. It is a mistake. There is no such thing as friends with benefits. If it ever happens, I can no longer so much as talk to him. My soul is simply too precious to risk.
I know that as much as God loves me, if I return to the homosexual lifestyle, God will not have mercy on me. If I die in my sins I will face judgment. I almost went here, if it were not for the mercy of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXkBBIaiVc
Hell is very real. Those people in that video are awaiting Gods judgment, to be sent into the lake of fire where they will writhe and burn in horrifically indescribable agony not for a year, not for a hundred years, not for a thousand years, or even a million- but for forever. For eternity. It will never end for them. They will not get used to it. Revelation says this about those who end up in Hell because they took the mark of the Beast. I imagine everyone who ends up in the lake of fire will suffer similarly: "
And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name."
It's not torment like your brother torments you with a doll or insect. It is torment like being submerged in rock that is so hot it is liquid- and never being fully consumed, always burning.
How the ministers of today have utterly failed the American church. No one teaches on substance, they want to stick to the love of Jesus... and nothing else. No minister wants to cast demons out of people, though the majority of people are infected with them.
The thought that because Jesus died for our sins, homosexuality is now no longer an abomination is unbiblical. It is still leaving the natural use of your body. It is still the forsaking of your purpose on earth.
For every effeminate, overly sensitive gay male out there, there is a woman, who, had he of stood up, fought his desires, sought God and deliverance, turned from his ways, who would have made him the happiest man on Earth. Instead, he is pursuing fleeting, almost nonexistent pleasure.
It is the same for lesbian women. This world is brutal, and sick, and many men are selfish, cruel, and evil. Giving up on the hope of someone loving you is not the answer. Succumbing to the false idea that all men are evil, or selfish, or only want sex will keep you in a lifestyle that will prove ultimately empty, as like I once did, you are turning from your role in life. Anger, bitterness, fights, violence may result.
nobody can ever fully run from the desires God has put in them.
God is Love, yes, but His love is not like our love. Nobody considers that despite Gods Love, most people are going to Hell:
Matthew 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Few ministers want to tackle the fact that God loved most of the people who are going to suffer for eternity, never to end.
Matthew 7:22,23 22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
That goes for Christians who support homosexuality. "There's nothing wrong with that!" There's plenty wrong. Although i disagree that same sex frottage is okay, "The anus is not a vagina" web page has detailed explanations on why anal sex is a slow death. The lining of the intestine has only one cell thickness before it hits highly vascular (Meaning lots of blood) tissue.
The colon has one goal, and that is to keep feces, which are 80% bad bacteria) from getting into the blood stream, and to absorb as much useable nutrients and liquid from it as possible. It was never designed to be penetrated, as the anus was never designed to have anything enter it, which is why your instinct is to clench when something tries to go in.
This is not some ancient, cryptical knowledge to be dug out of cave drawing of the ancients, this is simply fact.
The anus and colon were never designed to be safely penetrated. It is a risky behavior. Artificial lubricant is needed every single time, in almost every case of sodomy. It is painful, demeaning, and humiliating for one party (Most homosexual get used to it. Or they learn to enjoy it) and pleasurable for the other.
God designed sex to the the height of closeness, of bonding two human beings can achieve. Not something to be endured, or suffered, or gotten used to, or enjoying the way someone demeans and subjugates you as an object. That is not love.
The Supreme Court has attempted to legitimize what is perverted. The mixing of semen, blood, and feces as sacred enough to warrant a marriage vow. The shirking of our biological design. Ditching the long, difficult, painful path of self improvement for the quick, easy satisfaction that takes little to no effort in my experience.
I am thirty five years old and have been alone for almost twenty years. If you think it is painful, you are correct. God has given me desires that have become curses because of my twisted desires. There is much pain and self denial.
For the Christians:
You cannot support homosexuality, or glorify it. It was an abomination to God in the OT and it still is today.
1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
God made provision for two men to love one another. But it was never to get sexual. Today homosexuality has ruined much of what could be considered close friendship between two men. It is lawlessness. Those who partake in it seek ever more destructive things in a futile attempt to find the fulfillment they are desperate for.
I have never loved a man like I love my best friend. I love him so much I do not know what to do. But sex is the fastest way to utterly destroy what we have. Corrupt, taint, and ruin it with filth. I do not have a vagina and neither does he.
Do not look up gay porn, do not favorite it. 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
Flirting with gay porn and not realizing what it is doing to your soul to view it is not fleeing immorality. It is embracing it.
If you struggle with homosexuality as a Christian I will help you the best I can. but ultimately you must make the changes, you are responsible for purifying your heart and drawing near to God. I cannot be your crutch. You must stand on your own, but I will try and be there for you.
Finally, deliverance. If you want to flee from sexual immorality, there is always a curse or demons associated with it. They are Satans tool for twisting good people and making them perverted. They are manipulators... And they will never tell you the truth: They want to kill you, and bring you down to Hell with them by any means necessary.
Here is one of the best videos I have seen on deliverance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPYH_Sg5lY
Watch it, watch it, watch it. Watch his other videos. There are demons behind most mental illness and addiction you cannot kick. Especially sexual vices and addictions, even masturbation. It will empower you, and might be the missing link your pastor has no idea exists.
This is something I need to do. To write this out for anyone who might be asking, "Is it hopeless? Must I always live this way?"
I went from a misogynistic homosexual to someone who cries out over the way women are treated today. I want to gather up women who are hurting and show them the purest love I possibly can... Show them they are so valuable. More valuable than all the treasures in the world.
My only hope for anything resembling fulfillment is to fulfill my biological identity as a man. And more than that, to love her, and to be loved by her. That is the goal. Nobody can ever fully repress what God has put in them. A desire to be loved. A desire for affection. With all this sexual deviancy going on, we are seeing the result of that:
http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/untold-d.....ransgenderism/
Stick to the narrow, difficult path. Soften your heart to God and realize that you will receive milk, and not meat, from most churches in America. Which is the reason for the ruling we saw today.
Again, watch this video, and do not be afraid. I have been attacked by demons, brought to lust, all sorts of things. They tremble before God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPYH_Sg5lY
Right now God is calling you to turn from your sin, and to believe that Jesus Christ is your only hope. Say it with your mouth, and believe it in your heart.
Romans 10: 8-10 8But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART "-- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.…
It is a difficult road. But the reward is worth it. I do not want to have your blood on my hands because I never said anything about how wrong homosexuality is.
Ezekial 3:18 18"When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19"Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself.…
Hell is filling up with people who went their own way and turned their back on God. Don't be one of those people. It'll be the most difficult thing you'll ever do. Not too many preachers will tell you that. Some times we go through Hell on Earth so we do not end up there after we die.
When the highest court of the land refuses to be just, you know things are getting are getting worse.
Now, comes a ruling that says that, despite the vast majority of Americans opposing it, every state must recognize homosexual marriage.
In my opinion these two rulings wreak of the same lawlessness.
Now comes the difficult part for me to admit. I am not some person repulsed by homosexuality who does not and cannot understand what it's like to be attracted to someone of my own sex more than I want to live life.
On the contrary, this far in my life I have only ever slept with men. The last time I had full on sex with another man was 17 years ago. I screwed up with my best friend not long ago but it did not get too far. That is the closest I've been to someone sexually in almost twenty years.
I've not so much as seen a woman naked in real life. The only time I've ever been french kissed was by a married woman who was trying to hit on me.
Some of you may know this about me, the reason I have remained aloof from the opposite sex is due to trauma in my childhood. Women have the ultimate power over men. We are physically stronger, but a woman can destroy a man.
I am living proof of that.
I never got over what was done to me, and what was said to make me feel so far away from the idea of being close to a woman. My male peers molested me at the same time, the transition was easy.
I am simply too damaged.
So... When I say what I say, it is not as a casual observer, it is as someone who has lived that lifestyle. Who struggles... Every second, every minute, every hour of every day for a week... or more, sometimes. I shake and sweat enduring the temptations sometimes. Dealing death to my flesh, to what I want more than anything, even life and God.
I often hang only by a thread.
This case of legalizing homosexual marriage is a shot across the bow. This is a warning...
I know many of you are practicing homosexuals. Many... This website seems to flaunt homosexuality.
I see pictures of anthropomorphic animals engaged in various forms of sodomy... It is so unrealistic. Smiles are had, usually just the slightest amount of discomfort is noted... The contrast of reality is enough to make one sick.
My first time I almost passed out from the agony of it. It was horrible. I thought it was what I wanted... As in my childhood I was exposed to, and taught that I needed to be with someone of the same sex. I remember molestation at the hands of my peers, and little else, except for flashbacks of abuse. God only knows what happened when my mind was blanking out and I was losing years of life. I do want to know. I do want to understand what happened to me when I was a child. It is a need. I need to know. Or I cannot progress.
Yet, strangely, after I recovered, I wanted more. It got riskier and riskier. Because each new experience never seemed to live up to the temptation. Yet, I craved intimacy the only way I knew how. The easiest way of all: A horny young man seeking sex from horny, older men. Yeah, like that's NOT going to happen.
At the time I was also selling and doing drugs. It only boosted my libido.
"There's nothing wrong with that"
According to the CDC, Gay men comprise of just 2% of the population, yet they are responsible for 3/4 of all new HIV infections. For people to ignore this statistic shows a major logic block in the mind.
Why do people turn their heads at what gay men are suffering? Why do well meaning people with zero experience with the gay lifestyle continue to say, "There's nothing wrong with that"?
In my opinion, because ditching my biological purpose as a man, and seeking to circumvent that by chasing other men, I am denying Gods purpose for my life. Which is to find, woo, and marry a woman. That is in celibacy. Sex destroys marriages if it is done before marriage, in my opinion.
There aren't too many people who cringe at what the Bible says more than I do. It doesn't sit right with me, and to be honest, I am disgusted some of what is said there. But that doesn't make it untrue.
Gods laws are tough, but they are there for a reason. 75% of all new cases of HIV and AIDS are proof of the dangerous, lawless, godless lifestyle most homosexuals live.
Gays are at risk for suicide. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art.....es/PMC3662085/
It's not because of persecution, although feeling isolated or hated is certainly depressing. I've been called a faggot, been picked on, slandered, even by men who were gay. In fact I had to quit a job I loved because I was being harassed by a gay man who wouldn't leave me alone.
But in my opinion, the root cause of depression isn't people not accepting them. Since when does your life happiness depend on what other people think? That is very weak.
If love was real, pure, and true, it wouldn't matter what anyone thought. It wouldn't matter if the entire world was chasing you and your mate down with pitchforks and torches, you would cling to her twice as tightly then.
No, again. Turning your back on God, and on obvious physiological functioning of your mind, heart, body and soul will always result in depression.
Gods way is harder to follow for some than others. For someone who has had their soul twisted to desire someone of the same sex for all of their sexual satisfaction, Gods ways are very difficult.
It is because Satan is real, very real, and yes, despite what ministers have said, he knows not only your thoughts, but also, and much worse, he knows what you are feeling. Satan is the master manipulator... Which is why God says manipulation of people is witchcraft. For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you as king” (1 Samuel 23)
http://bibleresources.org/witchcraft/
I recall from an early age how I hated God, and how I became bitter towards Him. How I had strange impulses and desires that consumed me, tormented me until I satisfied them. Things that were perverse, ungodly. Seeking forms of sexual satisfaction that had nothing to do with nature.
I began to see myself spiral out of control, and I knew I was heading for disaster. I had two drug overdoses. I would sleep with men anywhere, any time. In parks... It was getting worse. I knew if I didn't stop it I would end up with HIV. I took a HIV test and was pronounced negative, and I fled from the lifestyle.
Romans 1:25-27 25For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.…
Since anal sex is all I have ever known, I have seen my fair share of porn. Straight and gay. Seeing the reaction of a woman who is being sodomized for the first time is truly awful. What is being done to her body, her soul, her mind, and her heart, by a man who says he loves her, when she is baring her body to him, for him to injure her like that is absolutely detestable. It is dirty and degrading for her. It is leaving the natural use of her body, and I believe, is a damnable sin if not repented of and stopped.
I am getting off track... I wanted to say that today was a dark day for this country. They are attempting to legitimize and legislate what is dirty, filthy, immoral. One- sided in pleasure. No male soul was designed to come as close sexually with another male soul- this is why men and women are different. Born different. In nearly every way.
True love can exist between men, even stronger love than can be had for a woman, as in the case of David and Jonathan.
But that love never progressed sexually. I can say that had me and my best friend engaged in full on sex we would not be friends any more today. It is a mistake. There is no such thing as friends with benefits. If it ever happens, I can no longer so much as talk to him. My soul is simply too precious to risk.
I know that as much as God loves me, if I return to the homosexual lifestyle, God will not have mercy on me. If I die in my sins I will face judgment. I almost went here, if it were not for the mercy of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXkBBIaiVc
Hell is very real. Those people in that video are awaiting Gods judgment, to be sent into the lake of fire where they will writhe and burn in horrifically indescribable agony not for a year, not for a hundred years, not for a thousand years, or even a million- but for forever. For eternity. It will never end for them. They will not get used to it. Revelation says this about those who end up in Hell because they took the mark of the Beast. I imagine everyone who ends up in the lake of fire will suffer similarly: "
And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name."
It's not torment like your brother torments you with a doll or insect. It is torment like being submerged in rock that is so hot it is liquid- and never being fully consumed, always burning.
How the ministers of today have utterly failed the American church. No one teaches on substance, they want to stick to the love of Jesus... and nothing else. No minister wants to cast demons out of people, though the majority of people are infected with them.
The thought that because Jesus died for our sins, homosexuality is now no longer an abomination is unbiblical. It is still leaving the natural use of your body. It is still the forsaking of your purpose on earth.
For every effeminate, overly sensitive gay male out there, there is a woman, who, had he of stood up, fought his desires, sought God and deliverance, turned from his ways, who would have made him the happiest man on Earth. Instead, he is pursuing fleeting, almost nonexistent pleasure.
It is the same for lesbian women. This world is brutal, and sick, and many men are selfish, cruel, and evil. Giving up on the hope of someone loving you is not the answer. Succumbing to the false idea that all men are evil, or selfish, or only want sex will keep you in a lifestyle that will prove ultimately empty, as like I once did, you are turning from your role in life. Anger, bitterness, fights, violence may result.
nobody can ever fully run from the desires God has put in them.
God is Love, yes, but His love is not like our love. Nobody considers that despite Gods Love, most people are going to Hell:
Matthew 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Few ministers want to tackle the fact that God loved most of the people who are going to suffer for eternity, never to end.
Matthew 7:22,23 22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
That goes for Christians who support homosexuality. "There's nothing wrong with that!" There's plenty wrong. Although i disagree that same sex frottage is okay, "The anus is not a vagina" web page has detailed explanations on why anal sex is a slow death. The lining of the intestine has only one cell thickness before it hits highly vascular (Meaning lots of blood) tissue.
The colon has one goal, and that is to keep feces, which are 80% bad bacteria) from getting into the blood stream, and to absorb as much useable nutrients and liquid from it as possible. It was never designed to be penetrated, as the anus was never designed to have anything enter it, which is why your instinct is to clench when something tries to go in.
This is not some ancient, cryptical knowledge to be dug out of cave drawing of the ancients, this is simply fact.
The anus and colon were never designed to be safely penetrated. It is a risky behavior. Artificial lubricant is needed every single time, in almost every case of sodomy. It is painful, demeaning, and humiliating for one party (Most homosexual get used to it. Or they learn to enjoy it) and pleasurable for the other.
God designed sex to the the height of closeness, of bonding two human beings can achieve. Not something to be endured, or suffered, or gotten used to, or enjoying the way someone demeans and subjugates you as an object. That is not love.
The Supreme Court has attempted to legitimize what is perverted. The mixing of semen, blood, and feces as sacred enough to warrant a marriage vow. The shirking of our biological design. Ditching the long, difficult, painful path of self improvement for the quick, easy satisfaction that takes little to no effort in my experience.
I am thirty five years old and have been alone for almost twenty years. If you think it is painful, you are correct. God has given me desires that have become curses because of my twisted desires. There is much pain and self denial.
For the Christians:
You cannot support homosexuality, or glorify it. It was an abomination to God in the OT and it still is today.
1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
God made provision for two men to love one another. But it was never to get sexual. Today homosexuality has ruined much of what could be considered close friendship between two men. It is lawlessness. Those who partake in it seek ever more destructive things in a futile attempt to find the fulfillment they are desperate for.
I have never loved a man like I love my best friend. I love him so much I do not know what to do. But sex is the fastest way to utterly destroy what we have. Corrupt, taint, and ruin it with filth. I do not have a vagina and neither does he.
Do not look up gay porn, do not favorite it. 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
Flirting with gay porn and not realizing what it is doing to your soul to view it is not fleeing immorality. It is embracing it.
If you struggle with homosexuality as a Christian I will help you the best I can. but ultimately you must make the changes, you are responsible for purifying your heart and drawing near to God. I cannot be your crutch. You must stand on your own, but I will try and be there for you.
Finally, deliverance. If you want to flee from sexual immorality, there is always a curse or demons associated with it. They are Satans tool for twisting good people and making them perverted. They are manipulators... And they will never tell you the truth: They want to kill you, and bring you down to Hell with them by any means necessary.
Here is one of the best videos I have seen on deliverance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPYH_Sg5lY
Watch it, watch it, watch it. Watch his other videos. There are demons behind most mental illness and addiction you cannot kick. Especially sexual vices and addictions, even masturbation. It will empower you, and might be the missing link your pastor has no idea exists.
This is something I need to do. To write this out for anyone who might be asking, "Is it hopeless? Must I always live this way?"
I went from a misogynistic homosexual to someone who cries out over the way women are treated today. I want to gather up women who are hurting and show them the purest love I possibly can... Show them they are so valuable. More valuable than all the treasures in the world.
My only hope for anything resembling fulfillment is to fulfill my biological identity as a man. And more than that, to love her, and to be loved by her. That is the goal. Nobody can ever fully repress what God has put in them. A desire to be loved. A desire for affection. With all this sexual deviancy going on, we are seeing the result of that:
http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/untold-d.....ransgenderism/
Stick to the narrow, difficult path. Soften your heart to God and realize that you will receive milk, and not meat, from most churches in America. Which is the reason for the ruling we saw today.
Again, watch this video, and do not be afraid. I have been attacked by demons, brought to lust, all sorts of things. They tremble before God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPYH_Sg5lY
Right now God is calling you to turn from your sin, and to believe that Jesus Christ is your only hope. Say it with your mouth, and believe it in your heart.
Romans 10: 8-10 8But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART "-- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.…
It is a difficult road. But the reward is worth it. I do not want to have your blood on my hands because I never said anything about how wrong homosexuality is.
Ezekial 3:18 18"When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19"Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself.…
Hell is filling up with people who went their own way and turned their back on God. Don't be one of those people. It'll be the most difficult thing you'll ever do. Not too many preachers will tell you that. Some times we go through Hell on Earth so we do not end up there after we die.
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I hope that one day you will overcome your struggle and either find peace in your decision to choose God over your sexuality, or find peace in accepting yourself, and others, for the way they are. If I were to believe in God, he would love you for being a good person, for accepting others and their lifestyles, and for being the best you that you can be. He wouldn't smite people for who they love or believe in. Fear should never be the heart of love. You should love your God because he cares for you and wants the best for you. He wouldn't want you to feel shame and disgust for who you are attracted to.
I don't have the emotional stamina to argue with you, so this will probably be my only comment here. I wish you the best in life, but I will be unwatching this account, as I don't think I could bear to see another journal like this one.
As a side-note, HIV is so prevalent among homosexuals because of improper sex education. Condoms prevent pregnancy, but they also prevent most STDs. Gay men don't have to worry about pregnancy, so they forget the condom. No condom + sensitive skin = high chance of infection. An unprotected heterosexual couple practicing anal sex runs the same risk. It has nothing to do with morality, and everything to do with people not realizing how important it is to understand safe, consensual and mutually satisfying sex.
But I disagree with the premise that what or who I am attracted to is immutable. Then a person who is sexually attracted to children has no hope aside from bitter celibacy. (Which doesn't work...) There can never be healing for them. Never be a righting of their emotional compass.
My hope is in God for the restoration of my soul and heart to the way He wished me to be before all that... crap happened.
These days I see so much beauty in women I never saw before. So many dark shadows in my heart have come alive. I see now how well a woman can complete me, when before it was as alien to me as outer space.
Please understand something. I didn't read statistics on gay hookup culture. I lived it.
Education has nothing to do with it. You could have said that in the sixties... but not today. Not by any stretch of the means. It has more to do with excitement, danger, and the desperate longing to be wanted, to be fulfilled, to be sexually satisfied. We can run from what is true, and real, but we can never fully get away from it, it will always catch up with us. That's been my experience.
For a gay man in the hookup scene, bareback sex is more fun and exciting than with a condom. You get to sleeping with enough guys and you stop caring about safety. You get coerced, cajoled, and believing that catching HIV is no big deal.
You lie to yourself.
You do riskier and riskier things to scratch that itch, to fuel the excitement of an ultimately empty and futile sexual exercise, and soon you are sick with an incurable disease. You quickly discover, once you begin showing symptoms, that it was NOT worth the few minutes of exciting sex, for the effective ending of your life as you know it. A brutal cutting short of your life.
There are gay men who find someone and fall in love, and stay that way. That is just fact. But for most... And this is just my opinion... The hookup scene is where they get their kicks.
Three quarters of all new HIV infections are from 2% of the population. There is something very wrong with that. And marriage isn't going to fix it.
Matthew 24:22 says: "If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened."
That is a scary verse. The violence that is coming is going to be so bad, if God did not shorten the days (meaning bring it to a close before man's will was fully carried out) literally nobody would be left alive. I care for you so I will tell you this... If you ever find yourself in such a terrible, fearful place, where you are surrounded and there's no way out, cry out to Jesus. I know he will hear you.
I still struggle with the temptations. But I love Jesus too much to give in. And it's not worth losing my soul for a small moment of self pleasure.
I also have some childhood memory block of when I went to a Catholic school when I was in the grades 3rd and below.
My mom said I used to wear shorts all the time but then for whatever reason I switched to and wore pants all the time. Even to bed.
I know what it sounds like but I have no idea if that even happened.
But I know that I need to.
I'm not looking to get into a relationship. because I've never seen a good relationship. Only fights and yelling. I'm afraid to because I don't want that for either her or me.
I've lived all the beginning of my life in fear, anxiety and depression.
Afraid to be around or get close to anybody because I didn't want to get hurt.
So I avoided everyone and lived a lonely life.
Anyways. I know what you're going through and I'm sorry that you to are getting tormented by this crap. It sucks. I hate it.
But I love and believe Jesus will set us free!
Just hold on! I love you buddy
But more importantly, Jesus does indefinitely and unconditionally!
May God bless you!
It is only in the last year that I have begun to feel like a human being. Like I can exist in society, or even relate to other people. It's been a very big relief to finally begin to feel a connection with people as I was never able to establish such a thing when I was younger.
I know that God sent Jesus to save people, and in order for me to fulfill the great calling, I cannot remain aloof in my own little world and separate from my fellow man, I have to be able to love and care for people. That's always been difficult for me.
When I sold drugs I was a vicious man. It is hard to un learn the constant calculating I had to do to be ready sever friendships with people I cared about. Finding weaknesses. Not getting attached. Not loving, never loving. Only seeing angles on how to exploit people. That kind of evil doesn't just go away once you make the decision to try and live a godly life. It haunts me a lot and has haunted me.
My friend, God has healing for your heart. That includes special empathy and understanding for womankind as you relate to them. Most men have the instinct, which people like us may lack. But there is more to that, there is a very special, very tender art of your heart that must be awakened in order to treat and love a woman as she deserves to be loved.
And in turn she will make you the happiest man alive, it is in her DNA to do so. Treat her well and she will reciprocate. Do the minimum and you will get the minimum. Many men have lost sight of this... It's even in the Bible. Most translations improperly translated the verse where it speaks about the womans duties to a man... In some places those duties are subjunctive, meaning that in order for her to do those things, the man must first give her the Ephesians 5:25 love, which is the love Jesus has for the church.
Many Christian men would like to believe that a woman must fulfill those things automatically, but it is not true.
True love, adoration, and understanding of how valuable she is to you will bring you much fruit in your marriage. We were not designed to live alone, and a man who finds a wife finds favor with God.
Proverbs 18:22 22He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the LORD.
To be honest it sounds like you would benefit from watching some of David Middletons videos on deliverance. Please... if you have a moment give some of them a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plx-YzNSgag
Deliverance is a scary thing, but only because modern Christians want to avoid the subject, and there isn't much research available for it.
We would be better off if we understood Satans ways. Remember, Gods people perish for a lack of knowledge... (Hosea 4:6)
Your words mean much to me. Thank you for the encouragement. I give them right back to you! Hang in there! It is going to be okay! We must endure to the end.
If you ever want to talk I'm down whenever! I work a lot but I'll get back when I can
Ah man. I've received a lot of healing from Jesus in the relationship area.
It used to never cross my Mind to get close to anyone. But know im kind of starting to want to find someone.
But I'm in no hurry
God bless you buddy!
Definitely, let's chat.
One thing I know, and it's the most frustrating of all, is when I want a woman to share my life with the most, then I am the least ready to truly treat her with Ephesians 5:25 love.
God bless you too!
As someone who has done nasty, dirty things, and yes, in a way, still wants those things, for me to admit that I have been totally wrong in everything I have wanted is a very humiliating, painful thing. I cannot bear it. It is very difficult. To be held against the flame of the truth is a very revealing thing. There is much torment in getting right.
But the knowledge that has been revealed to me in my sufferings is beyond worldly value... I wouldn't trade it for every single thing of value in this world. It's simply too valuable. I would rather have a soft, tender, vulnerable heart than a bitter, angry, hateful one. There is safety in an angry heart... It won't ever get penetrated.
But it also will never be touched, either, and I have lived a hard hearted life. It's easy. Hate comes as easy fulfillment for me. It is enjoyable. In order for me to find fulfillment I have to be continually vulnerable, and that is very difficult, and scary.
Anyway... wish you the best. I would hug you tightly, and I thank you very much for your kind words, it means a lot to me.
I hope you find what your heart is truly looking for.
The issue here is that God tends to do the same thing with sin. If you are a practicing homosexual, that is leaving your body of it's natural use, forsaking what God has for you, and has terrible consequences, in this life and the next.
Yes, my experiences have been almost across the board bad. What little good there was was easily shadowed by the emotional emptiness and unfulfillment I experienced in trying to go my own way. I am trying to help people to understand the why's. I used to/ still do test the WHY's of things, even the Bible. I find it difficult to just accept things blindly. Why, God, is it so bad to sleep with someone of my same sex?
It turns out there's tons of consequences in this world. The aforementioned STDs, the heightened rates of mental illness, depression, suicide. I personally cannot think of too many gay couples that have been together for twenty weeks, let alone twenty years. I know there are long term monogamous gay couples out there. But they are the minority. In my opinion, there's a reason for that.... As I said, leaving our natural use creates a spiritual disconnect that leaves our souls open for all kinds of attacks from the enemy.
And even as I write these words I am tempted beyond temptation to sin.
Please. This is the most honest thing I've posted. I would ask you to be honest, too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tyler.....b_3478177.html
Where in that article did it give ANYTHING to back up it's statements? It made statements without providing references or links to supporting evidence. To make a statement without supporting evidence is an opinion, not fact.
There are parts of the article I do agree with, this quote in particular:
Monogamy is just like any other value in a relationship: It is up to you not to compromise it. But with monogamy, there are a host of other values that must be held equal to pleasure if it is to be maintained.
Homosexual marriage has only been around for 10 years, and that's if you include Canada. Of COURSE there's not going to be any record of homosexual marriages lasting for 20+ years or more. Homosexual couples lasting 20+ years seem to be in the minority also because homosexuals in general are the minority and it is therefore natural for one to not know as many long lasting homosexual couples as they know long lasting heterosexual couples.
I am not trying to pick apart anything, but just as you can't think of one homosexual couple that has never been together more than 20 weeks, let alone 20 years, I don't know any heterosexual couples who haven't been married and divorced at least 3 times or more because they rushed into it or married for convenience, money, or they got pregnant. The fact is that neither heterosexuals nor homosexuals have "perfected" the art of marriage. My upset isn't that people want to talk about how homosexuals can't or have trouble sustaining monogamous relationships, but that they want to say that and ignore that there are also heterosexuals who can't or have trouble sustaining monogamous relationships. I've seen too many court cases and been around too many heterosexual couples where one cheated on the other. In laymen terms those who preach about gays getting married being wrong want to "act like their crap doesn't stink".
ANY marriage requires WORK, no matter what type of marriage it is. It doesn't matter if it's a man and woman, man and man, woman and woman. It MATTERS on the two INDIVIDUALS. If EITHER individual enters into a committed relationship and is not willing to put forth the effort in maintaining that relationship, then it will fail. But if BOTH enter into a relationship out of love and are both willing to put in the effort to keep that love alive and maintain their relationship then it will flourish.
You are RIGHT in much of what you say. You are right in saying what marriage is to mean between two people and how they are to treat it. You are ABSOLUTLY right about how women should be treated. They should be cherished, respected, desired, adored, both in and outside of a relationship. You are right that one needs a connection with God in their life for He is who we owe our very being to. In all these things I agree. I even agree that, yes, gay marriage IS flawed. But I also believe that any and all marriages have their flaws. It's all about how the two in that relationship decide to handle those flaws. Whether to work on them and fix them, or to let them tear one another apart.
God is alive, He is real, and He has a way set up for us to do things.
Your penis was made for a reason. As was the vagina. The anus is part of the waste system, in no way can you make an argument otherwise. People enjoying it or not enjoying it means nothing.
When you ignore these basic facts, there are consequences. Rampant STDs in the gay community. Suicide, depression, etc, as I said. You cannot build on something that is fundamentally flawed and expect it to work.
On heterosexual marriage, things do not work out because men and women fail to follow Gods guidelines. If you think I am saying this because it's easy, I assure you the opposite, doing it Gods way is the hardest of all.
But as in the law of sowing and reaping, you get what you pay for, so to speak.
God's Word tells us that fornication (Sex before marriage) is a sin. It tells us that the only reason divorce can happen is if someone was sexually disloyal. (And even then, if the other party is not penitent and refuses to repent, the spouse may have no choice but to divorce. Otherwise, wounds can be healed.)
Gods Word also tells us to be wise. Wisdom says,
"You are going to be spending the rest of your life on Earth, up to and over a hundred years, with this person. Do not cloud your mind, heart, soul and spirit with fornication. Do not do things that lead up to fornication. Instead, take the time to truly get to know this person. Without the color of sex. It can take years-yes years to know if this is the person who completes you. (Again, without sex. After having sex, two strangers can believe they "complete" one another. It didn't work for the baby boomers. It won't work for you, either.) When you are sure that you are sure that you are sure, this is the person you will suffer with, and because of, that you will deny yourself for, that you will suffer to include, that you will cherish above all other things in this world including your friends, when you are sure you would die for her should the situation require it, then you have a ceremony, and you solemnly pledge to God to and to man that you will forever belong to her, and she, to you."
How many people have no trouble getting to know someone of the opposite sex, and keep sex out of it? Strictly speaking, not too many people. Especially these days.
Everything of value and substance must be worked for. It must be waited for. There is no work, no waiting for the homosexual hookup culture. Just free, easy orgasms and empty, cold hearts.
Sorry, but in no way can you convince me that what is immoral to begin with some how retains honorable monogamy, when I know otherwise.
Yes, God is alive. He is real. And He does have a way set up for us to do things.
As for the proper use of ones anus, there are homosexual couples who do not engage in anal sex because neither like it, and lesbian couples who dang sure do not engage in it.
There are rampant STD's PERIOD, just to be clear. Heterosexuals are not immune to STD's and just as likely/capable of contracting STD's from the opposite sex. Suicide and depression is also common on both sides of the fence for an array of reasons. Every year 13% of teens attempt and/or commit suicide because of bullying for example.
I wouldn't say the ONLY way divorce can happen is if someone was sexually disloyal. If the husband is abusive, I would say the wife could divorce them then as well.
I don't see why you would say "the homosexual hookup culture" as if heterosexuals do not hook up just as often for sex as homosexuals do. BOTH sides now a days casually hookup. As I've mentioned before, I do no believe in one night stands or random hookups. It doesn't make sense to me for two people who just meet to have sex without having gotten to know anything about one another. It's supposed to be an intimate act, not an empty one.
I don't need to convince you that homosexuals can retain honorable monogamy. You said yourself that they can in a previous comment.
I know there are long term monogamous gay couples out there.
On any note, I wish and pray the best for you. God bless you in your pursuit of happiness and may you find the one whom you love and loves you equally in return.
I could write a lot more here but I'm pretty busy with life atm. I just wanted to write something here to show that I'm listening and I appreciate this journal, and I wish more people would read it with an open mind and open heart, without automatically hating what they read because it's religious or anti-homosexual. Religious people aren't bad. A lot of us are like me. We love gay people, of course we do, it's part of our religion in most cases, to love others, but that doesn't mean we have to love WHAT gay people participate in. I would protect my gay friends until the end though. Nothing could change a friendship, or love for another human being. A person is a person, and if we're friends, we're friends until the end, I don't really care what they believe in. It's not my place to push my beliefs on someone else, and I would never do that, as I've had too many people do that to me, and I'm not okay with it; therefore, I would never subject someone else to it. I just wish OTHER people would realize that, as well...
I love you bro.
This whole ordeal was more about the contrast between the rights heterosexual couples have versus the legal rights homosexual couples have. I am sure , as a fellow libertarian, that you'd argue equality on a governmental level. I'm for states rights, so ideally this would be a consensus reached nation-wide. In a sense, it already has been. Gay marriage or domestic couples have been legalized in over 23 states prior to this ruling. Plus 25 if active court cases are considered.
I know it might be alarming to you that I have fully accepted my bisexuality. I do not intend to do so to be rebellious or upsetting. I simply enjoy the close company of men and women.
But this is not a personal nor religious issue, it is political.
Much like civil rights in the south, the court decided that specific state decrees were not constitutional and therefore not legitimate. While I do not agree entirely with the decision on a constitutional level, I am glad that this has happened. This opens the floor in the election year for much more pressing issues that people have ignored for far too long. My GOP candidates can now put this behind them, and focus on what us Herero, homo, and bisexuals really care about. Debt. Defense. Gun rights. Spending. Healthcare. Trade. Economy.
God taught me to care about my fellow man, and their happiness. As well as my own. I never intended to have children from the start. Too many people do. I am here only to find my way to betterment. its better that us with a same sex attraction be legally bound to a form of dedication in a way that only heterosexuals enjoyed previously, than ambiguous revelry.
I am not a libertarian... They want and cry for utopia, while the world burns around them. No... Not me.
You are forgetting, that even in liberal California, prop 8 was struck down. In a very liberal, very blue state, if they cannot even find unanimous support for gay marriage, or even a majority support for it, how do you conclude that other states are for it, too? The fact is, they are not.
It's not alarming to me, man. I understand where you are at. You are your own person. You are responsible for you. Take notice of the verse at the bottom of my journal, it talks about telling people about their errant ways. I told you. I am telling you. What you choose to do with your life and your body is your own decision.
Ironically this Supreme Court ruling has the wording to give everyone reciprocity with every other state, as far as concealed weapons go. Something along the lines of... No state shall deprive anyone any rights..." or something.
Still. Not worth the spiritual blow this country took.
What Satan has blinded people to is the fact that America is still under God protection. But you cannot fathom what is going to happen when we finally turn away from God. God punishes sin, and His punishment is terrible. If you turn from your sin, you can be forgiven. But if you continue in it, there are dire consequences.
Legal status has little meaning when immorality is the foundation. Half of all heterosexual marriages end in divorce. It is because men and women and forsaking Gods call to purity, just the same as homosexuals.
As to your question:
What is okay with forbidding people marrying an animal, or even a small child? How, in any way, is this deviation from biological function (homosexuality) any more worthy of other forms of sexual deviancy?
In a word: CONSENT
A animal can not give consent to marriage, considering they have no concept of marriage and are of a different species of which case they are not genetically programed to be attracted to.
A child can not consent to marriage until the age of 16, and even then requires permission by the parents.
My first consensual time, I was literally 18. In my mind, I had seen the porn, read the stories, had the fantasies. Even read the how to guides.
"That sounds hot!"
Yeah... it could not prepare me for the reality of it. Some guy I did not know, the friend of a guy I was selling drugs to.
I literally was fighting going into shock.
Does that happen when I use my body for it's intended biological purpose?
It took a few weeks before I ended up actually wanting it again. Why... I did not know at the time.
But now I know. Satan had been at work on me since childhood... Bringing malevolent people into my life, shaping me, changing me from Gods design. Mental illness, depression, sadistic abuse I had to deal with all alone, from age 3 on.
So you are saying, because I was 18 years old, I could consent?
Consent to what, the total unnatural use of my body, and the demeaning, humiliating effects of it?
Consenting to this:
Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals over the past 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for longevity; the medium age of death of married men was 75, and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of them died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died old.
The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays who died of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42, and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44, and 20% died old.
Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently. They were 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit suicide; and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure were exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly shortened life-span.
From: http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron2.html
You are arguing minutia, I am telling you, this is the consequence for living a lifestyle that is an abomination to God. You remove Gods protection from your life, and these things happen.
Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex
Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual activity. 70%25 to 78%x,13 of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes, amoeba) ranged from 25%18 to 39%19 to 59%.20 As of 1992, 83% of U.S. AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.21 The Seattle sexual diary study3? reported that gays had, on a yearly average:
fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48;
exchanged saliva with 96;
experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and
ingested fecal material from 19.
No wonder 10% came down with hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A during the 6-month study.
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33. AIDS Prognosis, Washington Times, 2/13/93, C1.
There are people who will claim that because some of these studies were done ten, twenty years ago, that they are completely invalid.
They are not. Time does not change truth. Truth is truth and it remains truth, until the end of time.
I am not trying to badmouth gays. I am trying to expose lies I have heard over and over, as a guy struggling with SSA (Same sex attraction) who tried to find help within the community.
It is NOT the happy, proud lifestyle people want you to believe it is.
You were SEXUALLY ABUSED as a CHILD by the males around you that you SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRUST!
THAT is why you view homosexuality the way you do. THAT is why you do not see a difference between it and sexual deviants'.
You were NEVER really a homosexual. You're mind was warped by those who abused you into thinking it was what you wanted and what you desired. If those things had never happened to you those feelings of needing that sexual male contact would never have been. Or maybe they would have, but only if something in your genetic makeup steered you that way.
Look at me. I was never abused or mistreated like that. I was never told homosexuality was okay, just to hate the sin love the sinner. Didn't know what it was till I was 8 and meet two lesbians who were friends of the family, and then all I knew was that it meant when a woman likes a woman and man likes a man. Parents tried getting me into sports and hunting, but ended up liking art and reading. Hec, I was so afraid of doing anything that might be considered gay that growing up I didn't want to have ANY physical contact with guys. Even casually hugging another guy I knew was uncomfortable for me if they weren't related (still is uncomfortable to be honest). Everything about how I was raised was normal. Yet, here we are.
As for the research, the ones from the 80's most likely are invalid. The AIDS epidemic broke out in 1983 and so people infected with it did not live long until the late 1990's, when medical science advanced. During the 80's they were still trying to figure out where it came from. The answer being chimpansies in Africa, the brains and meat of which are a delicacy. However the ones from around 1997 to present are more reliable. In reference to the statistics of homosexual STDs, I see it offers no statistics of heterosexual STDs for comparison to see if one is higher or lower than the other. In any case the problem seems more so to be promiscuity, not homosexuality itself.
I face palm at where it says homosexuals are at higher risk of being murdered or committing suicide. Or course they're more likely to be murdered, most likely by those who gay bash or simply hate. And as for the suicide rates, again, not shocking considering many who do are in their teens and twenties and being bullied by peers, judged by those they don't know, threatened, etc..
Man..... Every time I think about the things you went though I tear up and want to hug you as tight as I can, like a brother. You should have never been put through the things you were forced to endure and I F'ing HATE the people who hurt you all those years ago. I really don't want to continue debating with you on this because the more I do the more I think about what all you went through as a kid. And it is because of what you went through why you feel the way you feel on certain matters, and nothing will change that because of how traumatic what you went through was. We can agree on some things, and disagree on others, and agree to disagree on everything else. I really do care about you man and I hope you don't think my temper on particular subjects affects that.
I am largely in agreement with you regarding homosexuality however.
http://www.gotquestions.org/bestiality.html
Deuteronomy 27:21 agrees, “Cursed is the man who has sexual relations with any animal.”
So what you are saying, by admitting you are a bisexual zoophile "Christian" is that Christ died, becoming a curse for us, so that you can have sex with animals?
As for taking advantage of the trust animals put in us, that's an absurd charge I can't take seriously at all. Are you telling me the millions of animals we slaughter, abuse, exploit, torture, and inflict all manner of cruelties on for the sake of human benefit is not a violation of this supposed trust in us? The Bible permits using animals in far more cruel ways for human benefit than having sex with them. If you think that having sex with an animal that has the capacity to enjoy such interaction is a greater cruelty than killing that animal for food or stealing it's children so that they can be sold or stimulate the mother to produce milk then you are an idiot. The Bible, at least as it is commonly interpreted, condones exploiting animals in many different ways. The only thing it ever forbids is one of the greatest and most mutually beneficial interactions between man and beast: sex. God commanded the Israelites in the Old Testament to deliberately commit acts of animal cruelty, for example, by cutting the hamstrings of the enemy's horses. That's sentencing a horse to a slow, painful death. Christianity has one of the worst historical records when it comes to the treatment of animals, sadly. I don't think it should be that way and I doubt, or at least hope, that God doesn't actually approve of animal cruelty.
It seems to me that your greater indignation towards zoophilia--the intimate and mutually beneficial pleasurable love shared between humans and animals--over killing animals or violent forms of animal cruelty (which the Bible does not forbid) is the real perversion here.
And as for your last statement, by calling myself a bisexual zoophile Christian I am simply stating a fact about my identity. I am sexually attracted to both genders in humans and to a select few animal species and I also believe in Christ as the son of God and as my intercessor and savior. These are not mutually exclusive things. My inner sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with my metaphysical worldview and what I choose to believe in. Maybe you're too stupid and dense to understand this distinction, but it exists, nevertheless.
it means you have nothing left of substance to say, although I would wager it has been emotional from the start, devoid of substance to begin with.
Sex is the epitome of bonding, achieving a closeness to the other person that cannot be had any other way.
People who abuse sex, people like you, end up destroying themselves.
You argue about how you believe a lower animal, a creature that is spiritually pure, but that does not hold a fraction of the mental capacity the majority of people do, can be equal to us on sexual relations.
maybe the mechanical aspect of it alone.
But the spiritual aspect, the part of sex that makes it special, is forever lost on an animal.
Any human being who deludes himself into believing an animal can consent to a practice that cannot possibly affect it the way it affects you, and is a waste, will ultimately end up miserable, alone, and destroyed inside.
To you, sex is for pleasure alone, it is a mechanical act.
To God, people who do it wrong are going to go to eternal punishment, it is THAT important.
As far as your final statement, you claim to love Christ, you claim to follow him, yet you have not read His Bible:
Leviticus 18:23 - Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it [is] confusion.
Exodus 22:19 - Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 20:15-16 - And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
Deuteronomy 27:21 - Cursed [be] he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.
1 Corinthians 6:9 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.…
Bottom line, you want to have sex with animals and men more than you want to pay attention to God and His word.
According to the Bible, you are likely headed to eternal punishment as you disregard what God has said in His word. I pity the woman God has for you, as you forsake your biological purpose and design.
Turn form your sin, fight what you believe is your identity, seek God for wisdom and revelation and healing.
It is your only hope.
permission for something to happen or agreement to do something.
In no way did I consent to what happened. As I said, I thought it was what I wanted. What I "got" and what I "wanted" were two very different things.
Nobody can chase things that God has literally destroyed societies for and find peace, happiness and fulfillment. At least not for long.
Your statistics regarding gay relationships and the slow of death of homosexual sex are problematic because they apply only to a particular pattern of sexual behavior that cannot be attributed to all same-sex relationships. It is true that anal sex is riskier than other forms of sex and it also true that gay men tend to be more promiscuous than straight men. However, in order for this argument to have the kind of force you want it to have, it would have to apply universally. You want to use non-universal evidence to support an absolutist, universal prohibition against homosexuality which is illogical. You must consider these facts which counter such a claim: 1) Not all gay men engage in anal intercourse. Many restrict themselves to oral sex or other forms of sex; 2) Not all gay men are promiscuous. Although they are in the minority, many gay couples are in committed relationships and stay faithful to their respective partners; 3) The risks involved in anal intercourse can be greatly minimized using certain precautions such as plenty of lubricant, good hygiene and cleaning preparation, wearing condoms, and not being promiscuous; 4) Anal intercourse is practiced by straight couples as well so it is unfair to associate it with gay sex.
Your arguments and the teleology of our anatomy are old and interesting arguments but I don't find them compelling. Although the anus wasn't biological designed to be penetrated, it seems to have the capability to work very well for that purpose. And just because anal sex is painful at first or to some people, does not mean that no one enjoys it. Many do in fact, especially after gaining some experience. You ought to know by now about the male "g-spot" which is the stimulation of the prostate gland that many men find intensely pleasurable and is a sensation that can only be achieved by anal penetration. Why would God make our bodies to find anal intercourse uniquely pleasurable if it were a sin to practice it? Moreover, some women and men are not designed well to fit together. Some men are too well endowed to penetrate a woman without hurting her while others are too small to stimulate their female partners properly. Even though the vagina was intended by nature to be penetrated, that doesn't mean that every the design is optimally suited to each individual. Sex is also often painful for females the first time they have it. But by your reasoning, that should be evidence that vaginal intercourse is "immoral" since, in some cases at least, it naturally involves pain.
You make many unsubstantiated claims that are not supportable by any kind of empirical evidence such as that the love between men is necessarily tainted and ruined by incorporated by sex. Why should anyone think that? Why think that gay sex is necessarily one-sided or that gay relationships cannot be fulfilling to the soul of man? There are clear cases that contradict these claims.
I'm familiar with all the scripture verses you cite but do not find them to be a compelling case for a universal, absolute prohibition on homosexual relationships. Those verses have important contextual and historical meaning that must be taken into consideration. Even if they are as you say, I do not believe that I am required as a Christian to believe in biblical inerrancy. Neither Jesus nor the Bible ever says that one must believe in every word of the English Bible we have today in order to be saved.
I also hope that you know that HIV is primarily spread by heterosexuals in Africa and other countries. It's only a North American phenomenon where HIV is more often spread by homosexuals.
Finally, I disagree with you in that, at least in some cases, sexual orientation is involuntary and immutable. And it seems to me really unjust and cruel of God to make so that people are predetermined to be a certain way and then condemn them for something they had no say in or no power to change.
All that being said, I actually agree with you about the Supreme Court decision but for different reasons.
I am sincerely sorry that you have struggled with such issues so fervently and for so long. I am doubtful that my thoughts and experience will convince you out of your convictions, but I would like to at least try and help you find a status of peace with yourself and with God. I would also like to talk to you about your experience with animals. The offer is open if you are interested.
"I am claiming to be a Christian, but I do not believe everything that is in the Bible."
You need to examine yourself. This is not a party favor, this is not a parlor trick. This is life and death and where you will spend ETERNITY.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passag.....tthew+25:31-46
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
It sounds to me like you are ignoring what God has said about sexual immorality.
1 Corinthians 6:9:
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
What do you think "Inherit the Kingdom of God" means?
If you do not inherit the Kingdom of God, by all means, what is it that is your inheritance?
It is wailing, and gnashing of teeth, because people are in so much pain.
There is a woman out there for you. But instead of softening your soul to her, and giving her ALL of you (Not just the part you want to give to her. Yes, the zoophile part, an the homosexual parts also belong to her. She deserves all of you, to be under God in importance, but all things are under her.) you are chasing easy lusts.
I am half expecting someone to say, "I am a Satanic Christian" in much the same way as you claim to be a "Bisexual zoophile Christian".
Those things cannot coxist.
I know your kind. You beat me to death with minutia, ignorance, and disingenuous talk. Your arguments are woefully inadequate, and faced with real statistics, you find little ways to make them invalid... in your own heart, rather than facing cold, hard reality.
One day you ARE going to face cold, hard reality.
You are engaging in sin and you are NOT repentant. Will you ignore what the Bible says about that until it's too late?
As I said, this is not a determination of what color clothes you wear in Heaven. This is a determination of whether you make it there at all.
Matthew 7:21-23
21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Is bestiality lawlessness? Is homosexuality? You seem to be proud to practice both, and both are described in the Bible as lawlessness.
The people in the above chapter were actually casting demons out of people.
They prophesied. But Jesus is rejecting them. They are going to spend an eternity in indescribably horrific agony and it will never end for them. They will not grow used to it, for the Bible says, their torment exists night and day, meaning there is never a cessation, never growing used to it. It is beyond our minds to comprehend, but for your sake, I suggest you try.
Our God is a God of love, but He does not love like we love.
He is also a terrible, wrathful God, who makes Satan and his demons tremble. To put it bluntly, Satan with all his hate and rage, is a p*ssy compared to our God.
And you will stand up, and bluntly declare your love of sin, and also claim to be a follower of Christ?
2 Peter 2:11-22
12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds[a] carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.[b]
18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped[c] from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,”[d] and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”
It infuriates me that you and many other Christians mistake this pain, which many attempt to flee through suicide, for genuine and rationally placed guilt when it is the product of hatred, bigotry, and persecution. This represents one of the greatest evils and failings of the Church in recent history and I believe that it is the message that you are supporting that comes from Satan. It is your message that destroys lives and souls.
I already covered this topic.
I won't cover it again.
You've shown me that you are 1) an uneducated, irrational fool who can't think for himself; 2) that you want to be miserable, 3) that you love to latch on to negative, condemnatory bible verses to beat others over the head with and conveniently ignoring the other verses that speak about hypocritical judgment and showing compassion to your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ which condemn the very nature and tone of all your responses to me. You want to believe that I'm a false Christian. I could easily say the same about you by the bad fruit you have produced as evidenced by your hateful responses. A godly response would involve speaking the truth in love. But you know, I don't make that kind of judgment because only God is in a position to do so. All I can say is that if you are a Christian, your self-righteousness and pseudo piety do not come from the Holy Spirit. I am as strongly convicted that your message of hate is evil and demonic as you are convinced that my message of "perverted" love is.
Have fun continuing on in the misery and self-deception you have chosen for yourself.
You have just enough truth to be dangerous to yourself, and to others.
The spirit of much of what I say is steeped in the misery of self denial, or crucifying my flesh, of dying to what I want. That is not untrue.
I highly recommend you ask God to remove the delusions He has given you over to, I did, and God honored that.
The stakes are too high, eternity is too long, and Hell is too terrible to pussyfoot around with.
I highly recommend you go here, and examine yourself, lest you say you stand, and end up falling:
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/gu.....aries/4605.htm