Yay drawing till spleens melt.. you need to get some of those THINGS out you know :D

Yes ... especially a certain white, STRETCHY thing.

*hums innocently* Why.. as a matter of fact... :D

UPS is fun. I once had a package go about 4 states over from mine, sit there for 7 days, and then it came back. Point of origin was about a 3 hour drive from my home. Wheeeeeeee.

Could go either way, it could. I'm still waiting for a book Yasasno sent me along with money for the tablet I already purchased. Said book was purchased about 3 weeks ago...

Ah, UPS...why the fuck are you standard...?

Also, you do need to draw more. for everyone. Everyone I tells ya!

This is actually the first time I've ever had any trouble. Usually they'd pull some miracle and ship something from Texas in the afternoon and have it arrive in Washington state the next morning.

Oh, man o_o Where did he get those pictures, and where did you get that link..? <.<

And, yeah.... I've heard some nightmare stories about UPS :/

I think I followed a link on Digg.com that had some old magazine scans for an early Super Famicom. Had some strange shots of Super Mario World on it, so I did some Googling. Unfortunately, that's all I found. Only a few websites with any info at all, and all with those same screenshots. I'd LOVE to know more about it. Maybe someday someone will find a prototype cart and dump a ROM. We can only hope.

... That said, it occurs to me that I know nothing about betas for ANY of the Mario games. Sonic seems to get all the glory in that regard.

I'd heard about unused rooms and features in the commercial SMW and Mario 3 roms, but that's the closest I'd heard to anything on the subject, until now...

Yeah, I've seen the SMB3 patch that unlocks all of the unfinished levels, but I don't think I've heard anything about unused SMW stuff. Please elaborate!

Anything I could say on the subject would just be a paraphrase of this: http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/games/smw

which I might as well mention, I found here:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3146222

OH YEAH! Man, I knew that. My brain sucks.

Hey, I notice the minus zone is there. That reminds, I heard awhile back that the minus zone is actually a glitched dungeon level or something, and the reason it goes on forever is that you're not taking the correct path. If you take the right path, the level eventually ends, then goes to a flooded version of 1-2, or something ... ah, here it is. http://forums.cheatcc.com/forums/17...../ShowPost.aspx
He's kinda vague, though, and that could easily be a hacked ROM, so I wouldn't put too much faith in it being true.

Yeah, I rreeeaaally wouldn't put any stock in that... Nintendo have pretty much confirmed that it was a bug (after all, it takes a bug to even reach the 'minus world'), so it's pretty unlikely that there would suddenly be a bunch of features that don't exist in the normal game ("swim over this platform and under that one, and get all the coins!!!")... forget it even being a hacked ROM, I'm pretty sure it's just photoshop; the NES only has one map layer, made up of 8x8 tiles, but this guy's "underwater castle" has the water waves passing behind the top of the castle, even though the leftmost and rightmost edges are only 4 pixels wide... someone at Nintendo would have had to specifically draw that "castle with water behind it" tile, and I doubt they did. (If we wanted to get really picky, we could probably get someone to look through the ROM for that, or even just for the maps in question....) In the north-american release, the Minus World is just a chunk of world 2-2, with the wrong number in memory for the "where does this screen lead to" variable, unfortunately sending it back on itself...

The japanese version of the game has a GREAT minus world, though ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_RN.....rW9Y&eurl=
and in fact, one that disproves a couple of things he mentions in his post ("mario swims into the castle instead of walking!")... heck, http://www.trsrockin.com/smb_glitches.html has some gamegenie codes that show what happens when you beat a castle set as an underwater level (there's no Toad at all, not a green Toad).

Besides I forced the game to go into level -2 -3 and -4. Can be said that one of thoose levels is plain garbage, and all of them are underwater levels for some reason. I don't recall them looking like his screenshots at all though... but even if they were real, they're nothing special really.

And minus world is really world 26 or something, due to the way SMB handles numbers. Charcther 26 is blank.

I spent nearly an hour looking at stuff on that site... o.o

-Ombre

With regard to that beta/unseen site, I noticed they mentioned Star Fox 2 but don't really have much on it.

You can get the Star Fox 2 beta here in ROM format for an emulator: http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=5054

And over here you can find a translation patch for it: http://agtp.romhack.net/starfox2.html

There's two versions of the patch, one is just translation and the other includes removing debug stuff and fixing certain things to make it more like a retail release.

Does it fix the flicker? I've lost track of where to get the ZSNES build that fixes that...

I remember that build, but trust me use SNES9X... even that build of ZSNES randomly crashes with Starfox 2. Snes9X runs Starfox 2 stable (and belive me, it's the only game I use it for xD)

Huh, duly noted! >.>

Don't hurt yourself, but yes... more drawing=GOOOOOOODD!!

...especially more ZC drawing. I likes those! ^-^

What kinda ideas are ya floatin' about....do they involve floaters???

*SNIRK* Aw man, I just blew granola out my nose.

Granola??? Is that any way to live man???

Seriously I jus' pulled that out m'arse.....just fer you!!

I'm eatin' a peanut butter sandwich and washing it down with a Blue Demon...that's how t'live m'friend!

Eh, some of them aren't bad for a grab-and-go kinda thing if you're rushing to a class in the morning, and just need something to hold you over until you get back. Nature Valley are pretty good, actually, and I'm not some vegetarian tree-hugging hippy, either. And ZombieCat, if ya gotta take a break, so be it, better that than your spleen melting (if that happened, how could you get your extra turns each day on Kingdom of Loathing? (turn-based rpg, in addition to eating and drinking, there are other items that give you extra turns, but they hurt your spleen, so you can only use so many in a day)).

jesus, man, 20000? Why is it that the first thing that came to mind is that it's probably a select few fanatics constantly refreshing your userpage hoping for another badger taking a poop on a hermaphrodite's chest? Nothing like a boston steamer to attract visitors

Man, I know!! What the hell! They need to, like, go bother Gideon or Winger or something! My stuff is, quite literally, crap!

I was hoping for a more colorful euphemism :V

Holy buttfuck, Batman!

Yeah, I don't know.

Well it wasn't ME- I'm into inflatable watersports on circumcised female taurs!

I know how you feel thar. I think I should try that too, the drawing untill my splein melts.

I was a Nintendo fanboy when I was a kid. I'm not even sure why. I've always had a thing for furries, so you'd think I'd be drawn to the company with the anthropomorphic mascot, but ... hmm.

Mario as a animal is something I wanted to do for awhile now.

Don't ask. :)

If you have questions about beta's and whatever. Just ask me.

*shrug*

I'm a admin over a ROM hacking forum after all... so we tend to find alot of this unseen stuff and get prototype leaks early on. :)

Yeah, I've been meaning to ask what you know about it, but I haven't been on MSN much.

And even when you are, I'm probably asleep in my bed... I should get up a early morning and catch you I guess.

Wait, I hadn't seen some of thoose SMW screenshots before. I only seen the last four... Hmm.

People in the emulation community consider a SMW beta and Super mario 3D as the holy grail of prototypes. :)

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG IS THAT SOME RACCON MARIO ON SNES!?!?!?!?! MAN WTF!??!? They shoulda stuck with that.