FA+
Shop
Undertale Theory (spoilers)
10 years ago
Bahhh, I just have an idea in my head how to Save Asriel, without giving him Frisk's soul (which may not even work).
First a list of known facts.
1: A part of Asriel's consciousness was transferred to the Golden Flower once he turned to dust.
2: A part of Chara's (the Fallen Child) was transferred back into his body after Asriel turned to dust. This is not exactly a fact, since it's never truly been confirmed (in my understanding) what happen to Chara's body. The story told by the monsters is that Asriel left it with the humans, but we seemingly have a coffin for him in the monster world. I myself believe that it Toriel did indeed take the body and it is infact, buried underneath the flowers Frisk lands on during the intro.
3: Frisk somehow inherits a piece of Chara that can become stronger the more monsters he kills. I tie this to Frisk potentially DYING in the intro from the fall and his own determination connecting with the remnants of Chara's to keep him alive.
4: Determination is a product of the SOUL. As seen when Alphys extracted it from the human Souls that Asgore already collected.
My theory: My theory is based around there being another component to ones being. One I like to call your SPIRIT. SOUL is essentially your life force and emotions, but SPIRIT encompasses you as an actual individual. It is tied closely with the soul, but independent of it in many respects. Asriel's SPIRIT is what inhabited the Flower, and Chara's his old body. But this was not a seamless transition. Since these two share d a body, it created a distinct connection between their SPIRITs. Such that, when the two inhabited their chosen vessels, their SPIRITs were fragmented. A fragmented SPIRIT means that they cannot hold onto a SOUL. In the final fight with Asriel, as well as with Flowey, you are able to form a connection with the SOUL's he has absorbed, and even pull them partially free from his hold. When you meet Asriel back in the Ruins, he tells you that he will soon return to being a Flower, and therefore Soulless soon. But he does have enough Soul inside him at that moment to hold his original from.
Chara was able to get around his Fragmented Spirit by preying on the player's own, which weakened every time he chose to kill instead of Spare. I believe that Asriel is, subconsciously, hanging around Chara's grave because Chara has the portions needed to make him complete again. Separating Chara's Spirit from Frisk, and allowing it to fuse with Asriel would allow them both to be mended.....even if that means releasing the Sociopath again.
First a list of known facts.
1: A part of Asriel's consciousness was transferred to the Golden Flower once he turned to dust.
2: A part of Chara's (the Fallen Child) was transferred back into his body after Asriel turned to dust. This is not exactly a fact, since it's never truly been confirmed (in my understanding) what happen to Chara's body. The story told by the monsters is that Asriel left it with the humans, but we seemingly have a coffin for him in the monster world. I myself believe that it Toriel did indeed take the body and it is infact, buried underneath the flowers Frisk lands on during the intro.
3: Frisk somehow inherits a piece of Chara that can become stronger the more monsters he kills. I tie this to Frisk potentially DYING in the intro from the fall and his own determination connecting with the remnants of Chara's to keep him alive.
4: Determination is a product of the SOUL. As seen when Alphys extracted it from the human Souls that Asgore already collected.
My theory: My theory is based around there being another component to ones being. One I like to call your SPIRIT. SOUL is essentially your life force and emotions, but SPIRIT encompasses you as an actual individual. It is tied closely with the soul, but independent of it in many respects. Asriel's SPIRIT is what inhabited the Flower, and Chara's his old body. But this was not a seamless transition. Since these two share d a body, it created a distinct connection between their SPIRITs. Such that, when the two inhabited their chosen vessels, their SPIRITs were fragmented. A fragmented SPIRIT means that they cannot hold onto a SOUL. In the final fight with Asriel, as well as with Flowey, you are able to form a connection with the SOUL's he has absorbed, and even pull them partially free from his hold. When you meet Asriel back in the Ruins, he tells you that he will soon return to being a Flower, and therefore Soulless soon. But he does have enough Soul inside him at that moment to hold his original from.
Chara was able to get around his Fragmented Spirit by preying on the player's own, which weakened every time he chose to kill instead of Spare. I believe that Asriel is, subconsciously, hanging around Chara's grave because Chara has the portions needed to make him complete again. Separating Chara's Spirit from Frisk, and allowing it to fuse with Asriel would allow them both to be mended.....even if that means releasing the Sociopath again.
