Years upon years of breeding, both sanctioned and illegal, have led to the slow development of full-animal and half-animal crossbreeds, depending on the parents + the child's unique makeup of genes. Obviously some of the first true half-human/animal hybrids came from Human x Animal mating, perhaps first stemming from man-tamed animals as their cohabitation over time slowly adapted genes/DNA to the point where they could ALSO interbreed (similar to different dog breeds still being able to successfully procreate).

IE a human and a full-animal will TYPICALLY result in a half-animal, but it may lean 60/40 or 70/30 in either direction due to RNG. In general, if both parents exhibit more animal or human pieces then the offspring will inherit more of that as well. Someone who was the result of mostly-human parents with some animal traits may come off looking more like a neko-boy/girl; someone who had mostly animal parents may end up looking more like a bipedal wolf. Finally, enough breeding with one specific species will eventually phase out the traits of the other; if a family line began ONLY mating with humans then eventually their offspring would just stop exhibiting animal traits altogether.

Similar to how magic/muggles works in the Harry Potter Universe. It would also provide a source of tension between human/animal races as many people know the 'dirty truth' behind how the hybridization even started, but few are comfortable talking about it. ("You filthy animal-breeder!" "You're the mistaken child of a philanderer.")

So bestiality essentially? I feel that would alienate a lot of possible players. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable playing a game with that background.

Bestiality may have been the genesis, but it sounds like this game would take place many many many years after the fact. No one practices it NOW, but they have to acknowledge that it's how it BEGAN (and it would be why some/many people despise the resulting offspring).

Plus, your main audience is the furry fandom. We literally just sat through a comic about dogfucking that had mountains of praise heaped onto it.

I still feel like that's a sort of squicky idea, and if the main directive is to join the clans together, it would feel kind of strange to me. That kind of origin story can lend to a lack of a desire to want to associate with those clans; racism based off of bestiality, I feel, would be a little harder to "get over" than racism based off genetic manipulation.
Sure, but not all of the furry fandom is here for that. I avoided that comic, as others did too.

I'm confused, isn't the whole furry thing a bestiality thing, not trying to start a fight, but its odd when people pretending to fuck another animal is suddenly not okay with the idea of an actual animal being fucked in artwork on a furry website :/

Again, not trying to start anything here, just curious

Oh, well, I don't think the entire fandom exists because of an attraction to anthropomorphic animals. I'm personally here because I've always liked drawing cartoon animals. Sure, some people are only there for that, but I think it's such a big fandom that it would be unfair to generalize it as that.

I'm not into animals either, was just always curious, its like prison having standards in regards to a pedophile, even though everyone there is in the same boat as that guy, the pedophile is the worst thing in there sort of thing.

I love the art on here, porn or otherwise because people are very creative ^^

Sounds like an awesome idea! Would love to it expanded on

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you're off to a great start, keep at it!

I think it's a fantastic idea. Reminds me of Warhammer 40k and Shadowrun a little bit.

A furry game set in a post apocalyptic/cyberpunk world would be super cool c:

I'm getting some "Inspired by Undertale" vibes here. I say eliminate the "moral choice paths" entirely and go for the "Autobots building The Ark" route.

The moral choice thing is basically just a A B option at the end of the game. The rest of the game would just be on-rails building up relationships between characters. There won't be any sparing characters or talking out of battles.

A moral choice of only A or B? I hope this is on par with Bastion on the impact that choice will have and the difficulty you'll have in deciding between them.

Or the ending of Deus Ex Human Revolution, where it's literally just three buttons and a fourth, hidden one.

I personally found the ending in Deus Ex HR to be very artificial, while the rest of the game and its narrative was pretty great. I feel they could have done a much better job here. Not so much in the way how the ending played out, more with the presentation in the game. They should have tried to make it similar to Deus Ex 1.

I absolutely LOVE Fire Emblem, I would be so psyched for this (I've already pre-ordered Fates and am waiting for the SMTxFE crossover to get a release date for the US)

I'll try and see what I can think of, but If I may suggest a focus on the 2-D Sprite Fire Emblems like Blazing Sword (released as Fire Emblem in the US) and Sacred Stones. that would be a LOT easier to manage artwork and animation-wise, only requiring full busts for dialogue scenes and the animation on those tend to be pretty bare-bones in the 2D FEs. but the Sprite work in the 2D Fire Emblem games is AMAZING, especially with the Combat and those Criticals man... GOT to love those Crit animations...

I know that I for one, If prices don't get crazy-inflated like the last option (no hate just, wow... that got up there fast) I would personally love getting thrown in even as a minor character, and I'm sure a LOT of furs would feel similar. and Fire Emblem themselves are rather known for giving you SCORES of characters to work with it could be a fairly good way to fund the game.

I'll try and see what I can think of to brainstorm/suggest/spark ideas of your own, but that's just my 2 cents for now.

We are going to avoid any self-insert opportunities and instead opt for a completely original cast.

Understandable and can't say I'm surprised given the salt thrown around from your last auction

Even so, standalone pieces of that animation variety (Idle, Dodge, Attack, Critical) would be amazing to have even on their own. I've seen fan-made characters in that regard on the Fire Emblem Modding community, but a standalone piece that's just an homage to it (Even better if said animations are completely usable IN a (GBA) Fire Emblem Mod/Hack) would be bloody awesome and I'd drop money on that in a heartbeat

Original as in new designs made for the purpose of this game with no prior history in other mediums.

yea, those were the best...like LYNDIS, hehe..my fave.

Multiverse theory: every single possibility exists in different reality and due to unknown events a rift is torn between our world and a world that is inhabited by anthropomorphic animals. Their world is like ours, just with fur and scales. And they also think that anything different, is dangerous. Curiosity led to accidents, accident led to a war. The war between worlds raged for a good ten years before a treaty was formed. That treaty involved creating a symbolic city of the alliance of worlds, the city Amicitia. Of course not everyone agrees to the alliance and hatecrimes are conducted even today, hence the united nations of both worlds created I.S.A Interspecies safety agency that polices specifically these kind of incidents and crimes. The agency deploys pairs one anthro, one human, for pr and balance. Agents Vergence and and Lynn Redford are deployed on a possible hostile situation against a feline family in human neighbourhood, use of force is approved.

c.c... so.. yea

Love the concept, it might seem generic at first glance but with great presentation it can really stand on its own. I see also lots of room in there for social commentary. It depends on how serious you want to take the story though. :)

Why not study up on Japanese anime a little and get your ideas from there? *et-choo!* *sniffle*

i like the avatar 2.0 option, anything to replace creepy blue nature moneys in my head with cuddly sexy furrys sounds good to me. An option to pick weather you are a human encountering the aliens or an alien encountering the humans would be kinda neat but, I assume, ALOT of extra work, also would this game have character creation kinda like Amorous?

We're avoiding character creation. The main character is likely to be covered in an outfit that leaves their appearance up to interpretation.

Ah Master Chief style, its a valid tactic, me likey. How about Outfit color & customization? Also I assume this game is 18+ due to your portfolio, would genital size & customization be a thing?

No porn for this one. Minor colour customisation is certainly possible!

Interesting, I look forward to seeing what you guys produce. Will Kabier be the artist?

Maybe a disease like lycanthropy started plaguing the human population in the future (or on a colony planet), and they just learned to live with it?

Sounds ok so far, but why would the beginning of the scenario where EVERYONE is fine with genetic altered Humans end in a racist war?
It seems like everyone has the same chances for all genetic modification, and becomming a Furry is more a choice of physical appearance then everything else.

So how about if only the upper-class was able to get genetic modification, or used genetic modification to create a new kind of working class/Slaves?
It's easier to explain why this "Utopian World" failed if you split Humanity at the beginning of your story.

Another way to explain the racism if something with the genetic modifications went wrong, and it became some kind of "Virus", randomly mutating Humans at the beginning giving some Humans traits of animals who a considered as "strong" or "beautiful" who began to treat Humans bad, who where immune to the "Virus" or got traits of animals who a considered as "weak" or "to ugly.

Just a suggestion. ^-^

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Damn I'm posting far to slow today, when I wrote this only Kilbey & PommyN64 had postet before me. Ö_Ö

These are also valid catalysts for a catastrophe. Thanks for the suggestions! My one was more along a Nazi vibe where their particular flavour of genetics are superior to others.

The majority of the game up until the final mission will be very linear. There aren't any plans to diverge from the plot or branch it out.

We already have a competent dialogue tree program designed for Amorous that we can re-use in a more primitive fashion for this game. Dialogue in these kinds of games in infrequent and sparse. You can go from acquaintances to love interest in only a few paragraphs of dialogue.

I've been carefully evaluating the various aspects of how the game will need to be developed and so far, things appear optimistic and plausible.

I think there is some promise behind the idea of making furry characters originate from humans as a form of genetical enhancement. After all, genetical modification is something that is already speculated about in the real world and might not be outside the realms of possibility some more decades down the line. Copying traits from already existing life forms would also probably be easier than trying to create genetical enhancements from scratch, so the idea of infusing humans with animal traits sounds plausible to me. Also, this might open up some possibilities for a class/race-system, if you decide to go for something like that.
Now, what I have my doubts about is the distinctly dystopian theme that is hinted at here. I think making the idea of having furry-humans around the cause of the end of the world/end of mankind might be a bit too much and would be putting too much attention on the gap between human and furry. I am not saying that there should not be a gap, far from it, I absolutely think there should be racism involved, but I don't think it should be the main focus of the story. Especially for us furries, I feel like distancing ourselves from humans is a way too common theme and we tend to take the differences between man and animal way too serious. So while I think that kind of racism should definitely be a part of the narrative, I think there are probably way more creative ideas to use as the main plot point.

Thanks for reading :) I really like the idea and I think it sounds promissing so far.

Placing furries in a negative light is just to provide some incentive for the start of the game. All your companions quickly prove to be likeable characters. Making the final decision to commit to the original motivation difficult for the player. The idea is to enter with a stigma and come out pleasantly surprised and satisfied over the furry theme.

I like the crossing dimensions thing I just find that cool in anything.

I've actually had a comic idea for years now that.. now that I think about, would be a pretty fantastic game if done right.

I'm not entirely sure if I should say it here or if you'd prefer a private conversation about it. I'd personally prefer a private conversation. Though I understand if you'd prefer not to crowd up things.

But I'd still be happy to explain here if you'd prefer.

Also. Your idea does sound intriguing. <3

I like this kind of history! How different species can become friend and all the stuff with!

How about a furry sexy gameshow! That's right! Step right up! Test your endurance, but if you climax before the time limit you lose ;) Have various games that a player randomly gets as a challenge to test their sexual endurance ;)

Interesting idea. I believe I'd need to play it in person to see how it'd play out before I could form an opinion on it, but I think it'd be quite fun (if your previous games are anything to go on).


Anyhow, you asked for ideas, so here's an idea.

What about a Fallout-like, isometric RPG (like the original Fallout games, by Interplay) that revolves around nuclear fallout causing varying (furry) mutations from minor ones (like cat ears, tails, etc) to full-bodied furry mutants?

Because it'd be an RPG, it'd be quite a lot of work to put together, but you'd be able to alot with it in regards to story, and the world itself.

It's ambitious - but I think it'd pay off.

I also forgot to add turn-based in there, somewhere.

Again, it be a lot of work, but like all things complicated; it's just a collection of many simple things.

Designing a detailed isometric world, interiors included, would be the most amount of work. Then, for the most part, it's just sprites (and their tilesets), story development, coding, and animating.

I feel it would be borrowing too many aesthetics from existing properties. Fallout began isometric and more recent indie games such as Wasteland 2 are also isometric.

I want the furry element to be the core theme that the plot is then built around. I want the world to feel beautiful rather then desolate, baron and depressing.

I can understand that. Still though, I think you shouldn't completely discount an isometric RPG.

I only referenced Fallout as an example, but it doesn't need to be post apocalyptic, or turn-based. I suggested the isometric RPG idea mainly because of how easily an isometric game could adopt different kinds of gameplay (and even merge different kinds of gameplay) exceptionally well.

Anyhow. Thanks for replying. It's fun to chat with new people.

I've also got a few more ideas in the works if you're interested, but I want to flush them out further before suggesting them, because (as of now) they're just a few cobbled-together, random thoughts that I've not had time to mull over yet.

Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. This means you can't, for example, insert "the genes for an elephant's trunk" into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There -are- no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation into a terran plant.

Academician Prokhor Zakharov
"Nonlinear Genetics"

With this, I'm almost positive the game would rely on suspension of disbelief rather than full-on scientific fact. Anything with anthropomorphic animals will have to be based on fantasy, I think!

The genetic code does not, and cannot, specify the nature and position of every capillary in the body or every neuron in the brain. What it {can} do is describe the underlying fractal pattern which creates them.

Academician Prokhor Zakharov
"Nonlinear Genetics"

Hard-science will destroy any possibility for anthros. Some suspension of disbelief is necessary.

I would like to put some small amount of effort into a plot though. Some never elaborate the coexistence of humanoids.

Should go all the way with it then. Something like.

"My gift to industry is the genetically engineered worker, or Genejack. Specially designed for labor, the Genejack's muscles and nerves are ideal for his task, and the cerebral cortex has been atrophied so that he can desire nothing except to perform his duties. Tyranny, you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain? "

I really like what you have so far, honestly!

I would avoid the "race war" angle, seems to me its been done too much, you can still have a similar conflict whit groups of people that have certain genetic traits, ideological / philosophical views and or different approach at solving situations that others may not understand or approve etc. Considering the fire emblem angle would make sense. Seems more interesting that i hate you because you are X , at least to me anyways.

We'll get Cartman to monologue the start of the game

lol forgot about that episode, in that case go for the race war gonna need patient zero tho

Well you found your first easter egg you can put in the game

I think as far as characters go, not all of the furry characters could be specifically Pro Furry, there could be some that have heard of the "religion" that the main character followed, and lean towards Pro Human. I think that might add more of a reason to go for the "Full Renegade" end. On that note, would say ending A or ending B be slightly different based on character interaction? Also, using Fire Emblem as an example, would the main character be like the player in earlier Fire Emblems? (Where he was a character, but basically unplayable.) Or would it be like Awakening? (where the player character is his own unique class.)

Oh I would love an Avatar 2.0 in a Fire Emblem style, is there any thing special we should know about it too? Like do some characters when they bond they "bond" more in a sleeping bag?

Quand sortira la mise a jour pour amorous ou BBS ?

Oh my! You know Fire Emblem?! °.°
*Screams like a fangirl for you*
Sounds amazing! I really like how the idea is going ^w^
And the idea of an original cast sounds really good too uwu

I do agree that any justifications to include humans decreases the quality of the story. I just gathered that a human lead would help balance a game that otherwise is very alienating to the non-furry crowd.

Hopefully they find a couple of supporting characters interesting, and grow to like more from there. That is going to be difficult if they cannot project upon the lead protagonist.

Don't start with exposition. That would be my first bit of advice.

The final game will likely blend any narrative into the gameplay itself. It's chunked into a paragraph here because it's easier atm.

I agree that exposition isn't necessary, but I do feel a cohesive plot/goal for the protagonist is.

Fair enough. Well. I'll wade into the guts of the game, then.

1. What is the theme and tone of the game? What's the driving thrust?

With a game like Spec Ops: The Line, the message is very clear: War. Is. Bad. With Planescape: Torment, the crux of the game is distilled into a single question: What can change the nature of a man?

It isn't clear what this game is supposed to be about. Science gone awry? Xenophobia? War? Trans-humanism? There's a lot of stuff going on there all trying to peek out and say, "Me first!"

2. I would recommend against setting this game in a technologically advanced setting.

If technology has evolved to the point where manipulating genes is child's play, how is there war? Does this world not have nuclear weapons, or anything like it? Wouldn't nations just reduce each other to ash?

If there are no nuclear ( or chemical ) weapons, why not genetic? In a world where genetic engineering has advanced that far, biological weapons would be very viable, and incredibly deadly.

What is the world like? Is it all just sprawling cities? How advanced are other technologies? How does all of this affect the world and the life of the average citizen?

A more standard RPG setting like from Suikoden would probably be better, and here's a list of reasons why:

1. You'll be able to have a higher variety of locations than in a high technology world. You can have a coastal area for the otter / aquatic folk, desert for the cold-blooded types, tundra for the bears and wolves, horses on the plains, etc.

Each city or village or whatever could be different to reflect different cultures, and having the individual groups somewhat divided would provide a good reason for the player to travel around, and explain why the world is Balkanized.

2. Technology isn't advanced enough for one nation to lay waste to the other with the push of a button.

3. A world filled with wonderful technology is much harder to breakdown than one where people are just scraping by. Wars were common in more agrarian times because the world was so harsh and unstable.

You do make some valid points. We can't really have furry characters in tribal attire swinging spears and swords if it's in an age of genetic revolution. I mainly want to aim for large open landscapes rather then city-scapes. I might just have to go down the "That's just how it is" exposition, and instead focus the plot on events already taking place.

Sounds like a very nice twist to the scientific conflict in society today.How everyone's arguing about going into unborn children and changing their DNA so they don't have diseases.Go for it.I'm all in, J.

This NEEDS to be a thing

I'd say plop n' drop cuz you can't have any media without plot and I'm assuming by the time this game is even finished, Avatar 2 will probably be out in theaters

Actually the part about not being able to have low tech wars in high tech civilizations is not an entirely valid concept. Many scifi novels and movies have done it by adapting a unified pact or accord to never use high level technology for war due to either the outcome of everyone dies or being gun shy from prior tech used scarring the lands. Heck, Last Exile Anime was using steam punk tech and ships in a form of organized, chivalrous war games while high tech lords played referee over each battle. Hunger Games has done similar things by making semi-gladiator events to avoid full anhilating wars. Tech does not always equal the solution to all issues. Those that make, keep and run the tech are the ones that can let things go corrupt or nose dive into utter chaos. A case of "I or we have the power. Let's watch the primitives suffer for entertainment."

an additional note is that if genetic/mutation is part of the premise, not all anthros would have the right anatomy for holding some tech or the intelligence range to properly use it.

simple things are easy to fix and thicker skinned creatures may be bulletproof to some extent

seems strangely like this war of mine

Because I rarely pick humans in any style of rpg games(unless it's forced), I think the lead character should be choosable.

1.You are one of the last of a lineage of regular humans (taken from your summary, as there are people who enjoy playing as humans)

2.You're an anthro striving to uncover the truth, as to why furries, humans and other creatures, alienate themselves from one another.

3.Growing up as one of the more hated creatures in society, you decide it's in your best interest, to stop any more bloodshed and end the conflict once and for all.

4. Random (Let the game decide, based on your personality or something)

This would more or less give the player the ability to choose a different species, aside from only having human.

i think it sounds pretty good dude~

the genetic tempering story offers the opportunity to provide reasons for more decorated characters kind of like the BME community and can offer some story's relating to declining health of badly made splices

What about the other games?

They already have stories.

Yes but I mean, are they still in development? or why are you developing another one? o3o

Im just curious about it since I saw Bareback Streets and seemed like a nice concept

"There are no plans to produce the game until 2017 and after current projects are completed. This is just for fun!"

I include that information anytime I mention this project as users tend to jump to conclusions.

Oh yes, I overlooked that part then ^^U I was just wondering about those since there has been no updates in quite a long time.

You seem to have linked a cross-universe fighting game. We can't pull a plot that applies here from just that premise.

We need to establish just one world before making efforts to combine a bunch of them.

I think this general idea is a pretty good one, especially the premise of racism/classism associated with a furry/human world. Now, this next part is more a question, because I simply play the games and have absolutely no experience designing or executing them. It seems like something that would set this game apart is the final decision being more based on gameplay. Otherwise, even if the story is interesting, I doubt many people will really feel much conflict making a decision at the end when they can just play through again and see the one other ending. So, what I'm trying to ask is, how difficult is it to implement something like this, where there is more than two very much set in stone endings?

The ending idea is so you have the opportunity to have a strategic battle against all the companions you have been levelling up until that point. It's substantial enough of a change from the standard gameplay that it may encourage two playthroughs, which is certainly not a bad thing.

Sounds interesting and I really do like the idea (and some of the ideas you have commented on). I'd definitely play through :D

Obviously game mechanics, although I'm not really doing harm creating ideas before the game starts production.

RICE

I'm more thinking of the MC being a furry due to a curse that's branded on their chest, as the only few memories of they had. They remember they're name, a temple, a trap and was once was a human, as they were told that humans have become extinct. So they have a find a way to turn back into a human, or stay the person they are.

so is it kind of chose your race/type of furry or human and they all have different stories or?