ZOOTOPIA: afterthoughts [SPOILERS]
9 years ago
So me, the mate and a bunch of friends watched Zootopia last night.
Worth all the wait and every cent.
I agree with what a lot of guys have said by now; never has the message of this movie been more relevant for the world than now and Disney truly has outdone themselves once again.
People have mentioned all the different influences and multi-facetted topics it adresses and the wonderful thing is, it does so without hammering you in the face with them. They're just there and part of the story, woven in so well you can't tell the story or the message apart from eachother.
All the puns are either backdrop or flow so well with the characters you couldn't have imagined them 'not' pulling that one at that particular instance, same as the entire world built around Zootropolis. While it's never addressed in detail, the city and it's habitats are constructed really well and it's done well enough that you don't want to or even need to question any part of it.
I'll admit that there's some obvious cues and I feel they really could have done with a few less clip releases, but there's far more than enough material left in the movie to laugh at and enjoy, even if you have been spoiled on a corner or two.
A word on the characters;
Judy Hopps has managed to assert herself as the most solid, likable and believable female role model out in fiction today. Her motivation and character are real and tangible and it makes her struggles, failures and success that much sweeter and emotional, both on the level of the characters and as an audience watching her.
One nitpick I do have to make is that one big screw-up she makes, which I really just accredit to having to have the story progress. To be fair, she realizes almost immediately how badly she messed up on that particular instance, not only because she alienates her only 'real' friend in the city on a vry personal level, but I think the other characters are a little too oblivious about it/see it a little too lightly (again, story advancement and a little bit of young audience pandering).
Having said all that; as much of a gender identity as Judy might be, she stays well away from an actually sexual character and I think that is actually one of the movies biggest accomplishments. It handles the topic of gender equality so delicately within itself you almost don't notice it's there and yet it's probably one of the most central points of the movie.
Her relationship with Nick (see it as you will) is so well balanced it feels natural, exactly the way it's supposed to be. Neither one ever really has the upper hand in a way that would suggest their gender has anything to do with it and not one of them calls the other out on any of it either (at least on that particular topic ;b there's more than enough character jokes between 'carrots' and the 'sly fox').
To those of you who'd hoped I'd start doing some r34 fan arts, I'm afraid you're going to have to look elsewhere, because I have far too much respect for the wonderful specks of light characters that are Judy Hopps and Nicholas P. Wilde to ever go there now. That is not to say I wont be drawing fan art of them when I feel like it, cutesy couple ot otherwise, but don't expect any kind of actual porn from me. There's enough artists out there who are more than willing and capable to do that, several of them have already, but I feel this is a line I wont be crossing.
I will be watching the movie again with another set of friends next week (the dubbed version unfortunately) and potentially times after that aswell, but let it be said that this is the first movie in literally years I'm actually going to buy the DVD of and that's saying something.
To everyone who read this and has seen the movie, fire away your discussions.
To everyone who read this and has yet to see the movie; get your asses out of your chairs and into a cinema, double time.
Be well.
Worth all the wait and every cent.
I agree with what a lot of guys have said by now; never has the message of this movie been more relevant for the world than now and Disney truly has outdone themselves once again.
People have mentioned all the different influences and multi-facetted topics it adresses and the wonderful thing is, it does so without hammering you in the face with them. They're just there and part of the story, woven in so well you can't tell the story or the message apart from eachother.
All the puns are either backdrop or flow so well with the characters you couldn't have imagined them 'not' pulling that one at that particular instance, same as the entire world built around Zootropolis. While it's never addressed in detail, the city and it's habitats are constructed really well and it's done well enough that you don't want to or even need to question any part of it.
I'll admit that there's some obvious cues and I feel they really could have done with a few less clip releases, but there's far more than enough material left in the movie to laugh at and enjoy, even if you have been spoiled on a corner or two.
A word on the characters;
Judy Hopps has managed to assert herself as the most solid, likable and believable female role model out in fiction today. Her motivation and character are real and tangible and it makes her struggles, failures and success that much sweeter and emotional, both on the level of the characters and as an audience watching her.
One nitpick I do have to make is that one big screw-up she makes, which I really just accredit to having to have the story progress. To be fair, she realizes almost immediately how badly she messed up on that particular instance, not only because she alienates her only 'real' friend in the city on a vry personal level, but I think the other characters are a little too oblivious about it/see it a little too lightly (again, story advancement and a little bit of young audience pandering).
Having said all that; as much of a gender identity as Judy might be, she stays well away from an actually sexual character and I think that is actually one of the movies biggest accomplishments. It handles the topic of gender equality so delicately within itself you almost don't notice it's there and yet it's probably one of the most central points of the movie.
Her relationship with Nick (see it as you will) is so well balanced it feels natural, exactly the way it's supposed to be. Neither one ever really has the upper hand in a way that would suggest their gender has anything to do with it and not one of them calls the other out on any of it either (at least on that particular topic ;b there's more than enough character jokes between 'carrots' and the 'sly fox').
To those of you who'd hoped I'd start doing some r34 fan arts, I'm afraid you're going to have to look elsewhere, because I have far too much respect for the wonderful specks of light characters that are Judy Hopps and Nicholas P. Wilde to ever go there now. That is not to say I wont be drawing fan art of them when I feel like it, cutesy couple ot otherwise, but don't expect any kind of actual porn from me. There's enough artists out there who are more than willing and capable to do that, several of them have already, but I feel this is a line I wont be crossing.
I will be watching the movie again with another set of friends next week (the dubbed version unfortunately) and potentially times after that aswell, but let it be said that this is the first movie in literally years I'm actually going to buy the DVD of and that's saying something.
To everyone who read this and has seen the movie, fire away your discussions.
To everyone who read this and has yet to see the movie; get your asses out of your chairs and into a cinema, double time.
Be well.
FA+

I'd say character chemistry. You don't see a whole lot of characters that interact and compliment eachother as well as Nick and Judy do, both in terms of smarts and actions. Both of them are very relatable on a personal level and their actions/reactions and the things the do with/to eachother feel very natural and just ... right.
It's not just between them though, also just the things they do outside of eachothers' sphere's of influence. The actions and the way they behave in situations makes them stand out, both in animation and in film in general. There's one particular scene I wont talk to you about until you've seen the movie, which just highlights how well the characters are developed and portrayed, not as characters in a movie, but as natural persons who live ... if that makes any sense.
I feel a personal level connection to both of them, but probably more with Nick. His history is something I can relate to on a certain level and the way he developed as a character as a result has made me question and realize a lot of things about myself... figure that.
And well the only female character that I found R34able was Gazelle, rest of the ones that you see go too much into too cartoonish territory for my tastes. I do expect there will be M/M arts with some of the male characters, but that's not my cup of tea.
I think that's a perfect illustration of Big bad pressing press of the press. The political balls of group preyhunting live with awkward questions, that no prepared person (speaking of villager idealist...) could've handle.
So no nitpicks for me, it's been a well fed sceene, and it got the result it was going to. In a matter of two days, who cares, anyway
-...as much of a gender identity as Judy might be, she stays well away from an actually sexual character and I think that is actually one of the movies biggest accomplishments.
WHAT??! Whada'bout the whole "It's called the hustle, sweetheart <3" ???
Lol, right. that IS movie's accomplishment, but still, she gave me rather "teenager" impression: not something you'd wanna touch with rule 34 (yeah right,.. uhuh...)(well, at least not every day at the week)(keep trying) but terrrrrrrrifically hot
-...but let it be said that this is the first movie in literally years I'm actually going to buy the DVD of and that's saying something.
sooooo much THIS. (moslty cause i hate dubbed versions, even tho they learned how to dub actually...) Soooooo gonna buy one.
PPPPS:
Also, to that Robin reference that's been popin up online, gotta say, Nick made it. (Not without Judy's help, of course)
and so on.
True, it is the big bad pressing the buttons, but considering Chief Bogo was tip-toeing so bad about Judy being on the force, he really should have stepped in in that instance. He was also far too approving of the situation after the fact, I would have expected some kind of verbal reprimand or at least his disapproval of Judy being asked to be a figurehead. I just feel it would have made him feel more sensible than like the (well-intentioned) pseudo-jerk they tried to portray him as.
WHAT??! Whada'bout the whole "It's called the hustle, sweetheart <3" ???
What about it? That's a bit of character and tension play between Nick and Judy and they eventually expanded it to others together, showing just how far they've gotten together as characters (and potentially more), but that's it ^^
Also, to that Robin reference that's been popin up online, gotta say, Nick made it. (Not without Judy's help, of course)
Neither one of them would have made it anywhere without the other. That's probably one of the best parts of the movie, looking back. Judy had been headstrong and courageous up until the point where she actually gets to do the job she'd been hoping and training to do, but- when she then finally gets to be a cop, all she gets is hostility and stones in the way, both from her peers, superiors and the populace ... let her do that for a couple' years, I'm pretty sure Judy would have ended up just like Nick.
Nick in turn would have just been ... alright ... doing what he does, because that's what he'd decided he'd do, since nobody bothered to back him up with anything else. The two meeting up and the adventure they go on sow them together and give both of them the opportunity to shine in their very own way.
Nah, she's just sexy, that's all.
-Neither one of them would have made it anywhere without the other.
Okay, i wasn't meaning that as a point of who saved who's ass, (we're all know they're both are great) "Nick made it to be next Disney Fox" was my way of sayin "they've made the movie that touched me deep again".
Alright, I wont disagree with that. Judy getting sassy is pretty cute that way X3
"Nick made it to be next Disney Fox" was my way of sayin "they've made the movie that touched me deep again".
Again, no argument on that point. Nicholas is definitely the new Disney Fox ^^
I enjoyed it, but I rather wish they had gone with the first idea the writers had: maybe not the shock collars, but a story line more along the lines of, "What do we do when we're all different?" as opposed to "we're all the same."
But now I want Zootopia Fight Club: Chief Bogo telling Nick, "I want you to hit me as hard as you can."
Pixar is definitely something special. Here's hoping they keep going.
I feel had we seen this together we'd have been up late into the night discussing the films merits. I loved how unMary sue Judy was. She had flaws of the kind most people don't even realize they have. When she dropped an "articulate " line my ears immediately went up and I was like "I see what you did there Disney. Very clever. Especially when it came to a head towards the end.
I definitely think the ship of them as a couple is there at the end with a single line between the to and the movie's over all message of going against expected type and to try everything. I would have so loved a "meet the parents" moment.
I still saw it twice in a row, though, so it's not like that was a big deal to me. ;)
There will be sequels, it's inevitable. I think that's where the relationship will really develop, and you may yet get your "meet the parents" moment, which I'm sure will be most entertaining. :)
Still, a lot lighter touch than "I love you", so perhaps they meant "love" in a substantially platonic sense, and I'm just reading too much into the choice of words. The movie doesn't really go into inter-species romance at all, so it's unclear to me if they meant it to seem like Nick and Judy were REALLY progressive in their feelings, or if the expression was assumed by both to be purely platonic.
Honestly, I would've tried breaking it down more in my head, though I do lean it a bit more to 'platonic' despite being a bit of a shipper, but I got distracted by what almost happened after the light turned green.
Lets back up,
Two of Disney and Pixars most recent releases have spotlighted Disney princesses not being involved in romantic relationships.
Half of Brave was all about Merida not wanting to and not getting married off.
One of Frozen's biggest jokes was about how shallow the "love at first song/sight" trope is.
Judy is the third.
2). Frozen's story weakens if you remove the romantic overtones from the two male co-stars (one wanting to marry her, and courting her ... The other a grudging bachelor pushed into having interest by the stupid rock trolls). Frozen was definitely a story told in the context of love interest .. The "twist" at the end of true love being that between sisters loses punch without the implication (and assumption of the audience) of it being between her and one of the guys. That makes the romance threads critical to the story.
3). Indeed, the thread of Brave swung the "don't want marriage" bat quite heavily. Which made the story far more about marriage than Zootopia.
Until the last 60 seconds of the movie, nothing about Zootopia's story has anything to do with Judy's desire of, or opposition to, romance with another character. It's all about how she loves her career, and how she overcomes obstacles ... And not about how she embraces or rejects romance. That made it awesome, that made it stand out amongst the sea of Disney Princesses, so throwing a token love cookie in at the end, even if with the lightest touch (and a cute call back to the Public Speaking 101 lesson), was unnecessary to the story. I also found it a bit jarring really, but perhaps I place more significance on the word "love" than contemporary stories intend me to.
Thats a bold claim seeing as the focus of the story was the rekindling of two sisters. There were hardly any true romantic overtones (we're not counting the ones to used as the butt of a joke, which could include the rock trolls part as it was more of the old "when are you gonna get married" gag.) I mean the WHOLE movie was about Ana trying to reconnect with Elsa and the both of them trying to reconnect with the world in their own ways, from start to finish. In fact, from what you're saying - Zootopia mirrors Frozen in that any romance is just tacked on at the end as "Oh yeah and they lived happily ever after." Which we both share an opinion on - shits outta place.
3). Indeed, the thread of Brave swung the "don't want marriage" bat quite heavily. Which made the story far more about marriage than Zootopia.
I feel like you think just because a subject shows up in a movie that it takes a significant role in the story. The whole of Brave was a story about the beating a the relationship of a mother and daughter can endure during adolescence and how it can come out stronger in the end even if journey there is catastrophic. Merida being married off was just another passage of conveyance, had the movie taken place in another different setting that probably wouldn't have been there.
As for Brave -- I kinda am saying that, yeah. It's not a knee-jerk thing, tho .. It's deeper than that. Animated movies have 90-120 minutes to tell a story. Every single line of the story has weight and context, it's there by intent. It all provides strong context. Just look at deleted scenes of any movie you can imagine, and oftentimes, the deletion changes the context a fair amount. This is the reason why novel-to-movie conversions usually suck, because the movie has to remove a shitload of flavor and atmosphere and context to get down to the core of the story. Thus, if they chose to keep the marriage/love chatter in the movie, even if it's not the main focus of the movie, it has significance to the context. Ana & Elsa's sister-love-not-romance would not have surprised or impressed us nearly as much if the entire movie was about that, and had no mention of prince/princess romance, or princess/street-rat romance (q.v., Aladdin). Would it still have been good? Probably. Would it have had a different setting/premise? Yep, probably. But that's not what it was.
IMO, Frozen .. Like Maleficent .. Like a few others before Zootopia .. were all baby-steps on the road to a romance-free movie like Zootopia being as successful as it looks to become.
If you're saying Zootopia wasn't a break-out movie in this regard, I simply disagree.
If you're saying that Zootopia was just as much about romance as the other Disney Princess movies (the original premise of my comment), then I simply disagree.
If you're saying that Zootopia is awesome regardless of all these nuances, on this I wholeheartedly agree. ^_^
Bottom line: I don't think her screw-up at the podium was out of character for her. And ... Just as you don't think the romantic angles between Ana and her suitors was important for the Frozen story ... I don't think Judy's love-confession for Nick at the end of Zootopia was necessary for the story
That final line leaves things to interpretation, but I'm pretty convinced it's a nod for everyone and if you ask me, it's got potential for a sequel in it, right there. so maybe meet the parents will happen ... maybe I'll beat Disney to it ... who knows ;3
But yeah, I want to do a meet the parents moment 8D
Thank you for that! It takes a rare degree of responsibility and respect to take that stance, and it is appreciated. The movie needs room to breathe before r34 pics become so much the norm the studio decides to drop it. So many would just do it anyway "'cause everyone else is", but that's largely only because everyone else has the same assumption. ;) But in truth, every artist has a vote in this.
they wouldn't have dropped it after the first trailer -- production is practically done by that point. By drop it, I mean, not bother with sequels because of too much "beast porn".
Also, the very idea of a porn singularity cracked me up
Considering who these other characters are and what their agenda is at this point, I felt the whole scene flowing very well. No one is really innocent here. (details withheld for spoilers)
Considering who these other characters are and what their agenda is at this point, I felt the whole scene flowing very well. No one is really innocent here. (details withheld for spoilers)
^ this. Judy's not perfect. She's never spoken to a crowd before, much less the press. It's unlikely they trained much for this in the academy, so she stumbled in a predictable way a newbie to PCs might - by sticking to the facts, presenting them as they were presented to her, inadvertently perpetuating an institutional bias except with a megaphone. As you say, the story had her make this mistake so she could grow, but I didn't find it contrived.
She also had to make this mistake so that the catchy song would make more sense:
I messed up tonight
I lost another fight
I still mess up but I'll just start again
I keep falling down
I keep on hitting the ground
I always get up now to see what's next
....
I'll keep on making those new mistakes
I'll keep on making them every day
Those new mistakes
Again, I have to disagree with certain points. It's true that she had no prior training talking to the press, but exactly for this reason, she should never have tried to answer those questions to begin with. She wasn't qualified, neither on a rhethorical or scientific level and it was mostly speculation on her part. Considering how smart she was about a couple' other things, I'm surprised she didn't see the avalanche she was gonna kick lose coming but, as I mentioned, it's relevant to the advancement of the story and Judy needed to slip up there to grow as a person :3
When overwhelmed by the press, she only fell back into repeating what she had heard from the doc before. Which turned out to be speculative at best, and wrong in the end, but it was the only thing that came to her... as a country bunny, she had no press experience and did not see when to shut the eff up.
The one person who should have stopped Judy is Chief Bogo, but the guy has his own agenda... maybe he wanted Judy to screw up (let's remember that he spent most of the movie to this point hating her) and just underestimated the impact, or he is biased against predators as well (except his own ZPD boys)?
You're right though, it was very much of a set up. However I'll return to my argument about who should have stepped in at that point, because even if Judy didn't have the sense or experience, HE surely did, considering his position and should theoretically have seen the set up happen. Ah well X3
While I think the "he" you're talking about is Nick.
In her defense, even Presidents have Press Secretaries, and The Mayor should have had a PR furson there ready to pounce and interrupt if they detected Judy putting her foot in her mouth. The closest one for that role was Bellweather, and we already covered why she might have been perfectly happy not interrupting her.
Worth noting -- Judy instantly recognized the damage she did to Nick, but it took more time for her to recognize what she did to Zootopia. To her credit, she took personal responsibility for it and did the right thing, the hard thing. She has all my respect for that. Kids today need more role models like her.
i could go on and on about why i liked it and whatnot but i wont. there's too much to like about it i'd be here all day,
that being said though....
i will be making some rule 34 of it myself...i got a really twisted wicked transformation/macro story idea that popped into my head on the way home from the theatre last night and i feel compelled to write it... i am lazy but i probably will write it soon.... maybe.. might come up with something else instead...
Consider Nick's worth somewhere around three quarters of a million (if Judy is right and Nick wasn't lying about what he makes a day ;b), I'm sure they can afford to have a nice day or two off ... asuming they'd want to. Somehow, they both strike me as the kind of "employees" who enjoy doing their job enough to have to be forced into a vacation ... yes, even Nick :b
Honestly, I'm very happy with how they have turned out, I'll admit. The emotion I put in is largely based on the emotion I get out. Zoot has so much potential and lovely detail, so many things to consider and tangents for my head to run off on ~
You can still respect a character while drawing/enjoying sexual representations of that character. Characters can feel more complete by acknowledging the character's sexual nature. It's not disrespectful to sexualize the character; it's disrespectful to objectify the character. As long as the R34 in question is in the spirit of the former while avoiding the latter, I don't see it as being disrespectful to the character . . . .
Perhaps disrespectful to the creator, but they're no more worthy of avoiding the R34ing of their property than anyone else. XD
There'll likely be more cuddly pictures of them in the future, or some suggestive references here and there (like Payback's a bitch).
Everything about it just felt so fluid and natural, especially when it came to the characters' back-and-forths on several occasions. I also appreciated the careful attention to details like Judy with her nose twitching to show nervousness.
As far as R34 goes, I'm glad to hear you'll be avoiding doing that, your stuff with them is pretty top-tier without it already in my opinion, though if do something with slight suggestiveness in nature I wouldn't ding ya for it. I grew up later finding out a lot of cartoons I watched and enjoyed had some...suggestive nature at certain points (typically through play on words or some visual cues that I only realized after hearing it from someone who noticed it after seeing it for the n-th time) so I tend to find that kind of stuff funny in some instances. As far as searching it though, I'm not sure I'll be avoiding in totality, by this point I've kind of accepted that gonna be a bit hard to do, especially on FA, and it's gonna end up finding some whether I want to or not.
Oh there's enough R34 out there to suit anyone's need, which is another reason why I don't feel I need to be going there. There's quite a bit of good work out there too, depending on what you like, but as I said; I'll be limiting myself to character art and interactions =^-^=
IT was just too good to quit.
I loved your work of the two before the movie even came out, and I totally agree with your desire to keep that pure. Fuck R34 man.
Oh and the entire time I was watching the movie I was thinking 'man Ipoke is gunna fucking LOVE this!' I think it even tackled racism
REALLY well. Also have you noticed the movie's Highest point of suspense at the end was similar to the highest point of suspense at
your comic's beginning? When Nick was pretending to go feral to trick the antagonist was incredibly similar to how Tobur tricked our
dear queen wolf in the beginning with Nele. They even got the scream in there. Its incredible! I got to say Poke. I love your work. I found
you way back when you were making those porno comics and they were pretty damn cool sure, but your recent works with the comic have
become masterful. Please keep up the good work.
I'll be sure to keep up my working, don't worry. I'm heavily invested in Tobur and Nele's story continuing ^^
Calvin and Hobbes - Hobbes eating Calvin is an obvious vore thing to draw, and it's been drawn in newspaper comics, AND Hobbes apparently ate a kid and half swallowed Calvin. Nevertheless I won't draw it because C&H is just too good to taint with fetish art.
Ernest and Celestine - much the same as above. Ditto Animalympics - Kit eating Rene is an obvious idea but I like the movie too much to do that.
Lastly, Poppy O'possum. Good comic, likeable characters, and I respect the amount of work it takes to produce it too much to draw fetish art of it.
While I do have an idea for 'chain vore' picture from Zootopia, it remains to be seen whether I will draw it. Perhaps I'll decide after a second viewing.
1. The end, even if it's more in a joking manner, makes me believe that Nick and Judy are actually a couple. That's just my thought and... Well, that's it.
2. I was wondering about the whole food thing. If all live in peace together, how would the carnivores eat? They can't be herbivores since they are still considered carnivores afterall.
Sure, many if not all of the carnivores turned in fact into omnivores, seeing how they eat cake and donuts and the likes.
But what about the meat? I was wondering, how do the carnivores get their meet while keeping the global peace and the like?
Well, i couldn't see coffins or cementaries at all. That does not necesarily imply that there aren't any, but with a population of 90% herbivores, the remaining 10% carnivore could feed of the meat coming from those dying by accident and old age already....
That was my only theory how it could work out and the carnivores would still be carnivores...
Love the movie by the way~
2. I haven't read it anywhere myself, but according to official sources, carnivores eat primarily fish and insects to keep their hungers at bay. I wouldn't jump to conclusions about not seeing a cemetary or coffins, since this is still essentially a Disney Universe, though I had thought about making a Soilent Green joke XD not sure if they'd appreciate that one at Disney though.
And waited a pair of days to wrote back in your journal xd
To be honest I think you're a bit right concerning rule34, usually I don't mind and sometimes I find them quite cool if for example they're pretty much canon (for ex. SimbaXNala) and done in proper style.
Or generally just ignore them...
I guess I will go on the same path for Zootopia, but for some weeks could be fine just avoid fanarts and keep the meaning of the movie for some time...
However concerning the style of characters... I think I would enjoy some fanarts like the hinting one you already did (plus... who know... sequels? spin-off? maybe more material for fans).
Well... now I can fully comment-back what I wrote about your correct prevision xD
In the last dialogue in the police-station there is a team sent for swat mission, so your Judy's picture in swat style was perfectly right Xd
Additionally also the picture "... not all Hopps and robbers" was correct in some way (the news report of the bear having attacked a moose, who is shown as badly injuried and carried away)
While the world of Zootopia is great, it's a little odd that it's perfect enough for there apparently not to be 'any' trouble whatsoever between predators and prey until the big bad starts messing with that particular issue. Makes me wonder what else happens in the city o.o
http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html - Wild times, prison escape, mob relations, bunny burrow, climate zones explained. They even get a hotel room! >:3~
The final product was good from beginning to end anyways and glad it turned out how it did and there was even a Breaking Baa-aa-aa-aad moment that was a huge bonus for me. To say I was looking forward to smut of them from you was an understatement given the quality but I can respect your decision. ...dangit. XD
I shall practice the characters thoroughly when the video release happens before starting to draws them as I am not too good right now and believe in accuracy.
My journal about this: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7433863
You're review was a good read, thx!
I'm still waiting on my copy of the art book, but Imma have to go through that gallery you linked and save every damn piece in there XD
Spoilers for non-viewers
To be honest, the original Zootopia would probably have been a little too dark and sunken, if you ask me. However, I think they cranked it a little too far into the positive, as far as the general city is concerned. It's just a little 'too' perfect, considering that species related crimes apparently didn't exist at all (or far too rarely to be a problem) before Mary's little lamb starts going on a raid.
I still loved every bit of it though. Honestly, the feels in that movie go so very deep and personal and they feel so real with how the characters interact
Even if a group is marginalized, you should not go overboard and then hate the non-marginalized group. Etc.
Good thoughts, though. And hey, thanks for sharing your art here in general, i really like it !
The EU part i disagree with.
the movie happened and i watched in amazement and wonder as the magic of these two characters made more story arch character fanart than anything r34. The majority of the art out there for them is very calm and loving. Disney did something i never thought was possible and i agree with your position on art too.
Just amazing.