I'm glad to hear the movie wasn't a bomb, the talk of a "Warcraft" movie has been around for over a decade at this point as it's nice to know it hasn't fallen flat when people have been waiting so long for one.

Also glad to hear the story is presented well, because quite a few people like myself aren't very familiar with the original games which this is based on >>

Just treat it as a good solid fantasy movie then with a name that's vaguely familar :)

The movie is just to promote the new expansion, I dont like it honestly :T Warcraft is dead at this point, and their milking it dry. Especially now Blizz has turned into a bunch of asshats that took down Nostolgous.

Ahh you're one of 'those' :p I played in vanilla, loved it, but the game has advanced and the mechanics made it better.

Yes we loved the community, but I still twitch when people say Blackrock Depths, as I remember spending months there getting my 300 FR gear made up for my warrior to tank :p

Do you remember the "Well done Blacksmith, now you need to make the Phantom sword to MAYBE level up your skill by a point. The materials are from Silithus and northern Feralas."

"But..but i'm level 33..."
"Tough shit, crack on."

Also yes they took down Nostolgous, how dare blizzard have to defend its intellectual property am I rite?

And the movie is not about the new expansion in any way shape or form, its basically Warcraft 1.

I didnt say the movie was about the new expansion, I said it's purpose was about PROMOTING it.

Also dont know what you mean by I'm one of "those".

I didnt play on Nostolgous, but I do respect that having private severs with no intent on gaining profit is Fair Use, just like how Molten-Wow did.

Mostolgous actually has rights to Fair Use, just like Molten-Wow did and won multiple court cases against their French Lawyers.

And no I dont know what you mean by your blacksmith quote.

fair use
noun
(in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder.

So they didn't have rights to fair use and they made a profit off donations. They shot themselves in the foot legally and paid for it, that is the end of that story.

They did have fair use rights as mentioned Molten-Wow had won multiple court cases regarding the issue.

The judge saw no harm in Molten-Wow using the game for purposes other then gaining personal profit and other malicious intent, and has been up and about since.

And now, it's the end of the story.

Got any sources for these multiple court cases? Because I can not find one from a google search, just lots of rumours and people claiming it happened while others not.

Blizz does, possibly warmane. If you want them, your going to have to contact Blizz them through email asking for the records, if they let the public view them. They arent so public anymore after being attacked about they're subscriber lies during BlizzCon.

Or you can ask nicely for the records from Warmane, but dont expect getting it for free.

Hm, okay. Really not convinced but no use discussing it if there is no information readily available as I don't like discussing without facts readily available.

That said, Nostalgias or w/e it was called proved what the most up to date legal opinion on it is. Hopefully whatever server you are playing on now is smart enough not to make money out of it.

I more like everyone else, I dont play Wow anymore due to the Devs becoming malicious and a bunch of flakes.

You do realise how silly it is to say "They took nostralius down!!! But yeah I never played Vanilla..." right? Its like me going

"THOSE CORPERATE BASTARDS! THEY STOPPED MAKING PURPLE KETCHUP! IT WAS MY FAVE!!!"

"Really?"

"I dunno, never tried it in my life."

PS I did have it, it was vile. And how are they malicious? For having to defend their legal property from folks who were making a profit off their work? That's like..not malicious. That's common legal sense.

As I said, I Sympathize and respect private servers for the rights of Fair Use. That's why I respect Nostolgous, and those among they're ranks, fans, and sympathizers. Nothing wrong with sympathizing to someone's rights. It has nothing to do with me playing on a vanilla server, nothing.

It's like how I sympathize with Anonymous, but am not apart of the group.

Most private servers are small with a handful of people on them Nostalgius made the error of 'taking donations' to help maintain their servers and the like. And again, its not fair use, its not even close to fair use.

in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder.

It wasn't used for news, reporting, teaching or research, it was stolen property that they were running. Blizzard usually don't bother with private servers but Nostralius took the piss. BUT, the bright side is we know the two are talking, we don't know what might happen, or not.

No matter what you say, it's fair use. If that was the case, there would be court shutdowns of these sites, which I am sorry Molten-Wow has been up for years and years, still standing strong at https://www.warmane.com/ with a huge community even after switching to new hardware hosts. And yes, they have been taking donations for years.

US law can say one thing, but in a court hearing with juries, Juries can overrule if it seems innocent enough. Which they've won, and is still alive today.

So yeah, sorry bud. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They're existence is proof enough, they cant touch Molten. And they still cant today.

For now. It would not surprise me that if Blizzard did make some kind of Classic servers or what ever, they would go after the rest of the big fan run ones.

Another 1-Up for Guild Wars 2, cause you have the option to go back to Vanilla Guild Wars, and they've done that since the very beginning.

If Wow doesnt evolve with the times, they will continue to lose people and eventually poof out.

I meant as in malicious, cause during Cataclysm - Warlords they refused to listen to they're fana to fix gameplay, class specs, and balances. Instead 2.1.(x) they nerfed a lot of class skills and people weren't having it. Lots of people left, and they're subscribers continue to plummet to this day due to poor relationships to they're fans, and they're wants and needs.

As fans call warcraft now, it's just facebook.

If they listened to the fans wants and needs the game would be a schitzophrenic mess. And have you met the WoW community? The mmochamp one would hate anyhing Blizzard does on principle.

I agree that Blizzard has made a fair few mistakes and WoD has been quite the dogs egg (save its questing experience), but Cata wasn't a good expansion, good idea, poor execution, WoD wasn't great either, good raiding and good questing but everything else fell flat.

But its not malice, not in the true sense. What it is, is dumb design decisions. But then again, they did improve some stuff.

I was a kitty druid in Wrath, I needed an extra hand and the use of my face to do a successful rotation, now its not so insane and "Hey you missed that proc..NO DPS FOR YOU FOR EVER IN THE FIGHT NOW!" of Wrath and Cata. For one.

Guild Wars 2 has more people then Warcraft even today, and they listen to they're fans all the time, day and night.

So yeah, another lose for the Blizz department ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If someone had defeated Blizz in a legal battle over a private server it would be common public knowledge. To quote XKCD Citation needed.

It is common knowledge. It's just those who are not interested, dont know or dont care.

So again, citation please other than 'I heard on the internet that..' because again this would be a HUGE legal thing. I'm guessing you was a Nostralius player right? If so it says a lot about your animosity to Blizzard, I mean how dare they make you pay for something they made, own,designed and worked on.

One of 'those' = Vanialla nostalgia lovers.

The movie does not tie in with the expansion, it does not go "Hey these are from the burning LEGION!!!!" whilst looking directly at you and there's not an orc holding a box with LEGION written on it in some weird product placement. The Movie is about basically re-telling WC1 with actual lore beyond "Orcs are demons from hell, destroy them with the Holy Light of Almighty God." But then again it was the 90's and story wasn't really needed back then. Also if it was promoting the game, you'd expect them to release them both at the same time, Legion's still 2 months off.

And the quote about the blacksmithing was basically me saying the game had some very bad questing and profession design choices. I remember farming Arathi Highland raptors for their hearts, took 3 hours, or the obnoxious shaman water totem quest. "Go here, here here here, there, here, here and here. Then here, there, here again, back over there and finally here. Oh by the way, most of these zones are way higher level than you, you're doing it on foot and have fun with the Son's of Arugal..." Professions were terrible and the questing experience basically stopped at around level 55.

If you wasn't in a big raiding guild then tough shit, enjoy doing LBRS and BRD and MAYBE getting into a raid for Strath/Scholo if your class is needed.

Class design was terrible by todays standards.

"I'mma be a warrior and use my two handed axe!"
"Lel no you're a tank."
"I don't want to be a tank."
"Tough shit, no one will take you unless you tank."

"Paladin, hope you like buffing 40 people one click at a time, each buff lasts 3 minutes, by the time you get to player 38, player 1's buff is running out. No you can't do anything else, oh okay stop crying we might let you off off heal."

Druids were healers, priests were healers or mana batteries, enhancement shamans were bloodlust bitches etc etc.

We remember the good days, we remember the first time we saw Ragnaros and the first time we killed him, we remember the instances and the RP.

What we don't remember, or willingly forget is getting kicked in the teeth by the quest design, the game design and choices. Vanilla was not this golden land of milk and honey. It had its superb moments, and for many of us was the first game of its type we played, its where we met and became friends with people we are still friends with today for some of us. And that's what I miss, the community. Not the entitled asshats of todays online gaming communities. If you was a cunt to people in Vanilla, people knew very quickly and it forced you to behave.

I just said dude -_- It's promoting, we know it doesnt tie. It's like when Mountain Dew comes out with the gamer fuel for Call of Duty session, even though COD has nothing to do with soda.

I never played vanilla, so 90% of what your saying is going way past my head. I started on LK, and went from there.

Am sad they didnt put the most sexy race in the movie the beef cakes Taurens (never watch it yet but, orc would be the real reason to watch it hehe)

If (and I think its a rather big if) the movie does well enough, we might see the Tauren in the future :) But I dunno how you could put Warcraft 3 into a single movie, its a trilogy in itself. If there's a second one we'll probably see more Elfs and Trolls.

I hear that indeed.

did you get some movie promo swag?

Nah there's no swag over here :(

So.. Any Pandaren in it?

Nope, this is basically a re-telling of Warcraft 1, Orcs and humans only, but you do see High Elfs and Dwarfs for a brief bit of time. Oh and some Draienaiaiaianeieaie.

What's a Draienaiaiaianeieaie? (wow that's a mouthful )

I think those are the ones where the males have Hentai tentacles for beards.

Ah, bet the animu girls go crazy for them :o

I'm a bit unsure of this movie. It does look nice, but I'm nervous that the live-action actors will clash with the CGI characters, a common problem now because we have become saturated with CGI. Its one of those films which I feel could have been all animated, after all Blizzard did make some amazing intros for their games. But then I guess it couldn't really find a market then, since apparently all animation is for kids in the eyes of the public :V

Not only that but a purely animated movie of this type would be unearthly expensive and a very risky proposition. But the humans don't clash with them at all, when there's interaction going on between them (most of it violence) its very very well done and they feel like they are there and are not waving swords at thin air.

I saw it too and was so in love with the orcs. But as the movie went on I came to feel they were not everything I was hoping they would be. Mainly how they reacted toward their leader what kind of leader he really was and was to scare of him to do anything about it.