Oh nice linking something on the big roo's page, and as blooming artist myself I do agree with you, this piece is by far the best at showing the emotions one would feel during climax. Meesh did a a wonderful job on it :3

I think it's just a weird thing that tends to exist in this fandom, to be honest I think a lot of it is just based around fantasy rather than ignorance of sexuality (although in a fandom where like, there's a high density of virgins, there's a bit of that as well.) Another part of it is probably because artists simply like how the image looks in the way they draw it. I think in the end it just comes down to what the artists find sexy or what the artist thinks looks good. 'Cause let's be honest, a face in an intense orgasm is ridiculously difficult to draw, and sometimes just doesn't look good to whoever is commissioning the picture, or whichever artist is drawing it whether it's for themselves or for others.

This actually irks me a lot, especially when a character is having a hyper orgasm with enough cum to fill a swimming pool. It's like, they have this look on their face like their watching a football game instead of actually throwing their heads back, their eyes snapped shut, making the O face, and crying out with erotic pleasure! If you're gonna have a character cum, then FUCKING SELL IT!! *storms off and slams the door behind him*

I actually like this a lot, as well as casual nudity, casual sex, and a lot of other such things. This probably is an exention of both my love for the bizarre and the fact that I'm a voyeur at heart, but even as unrealistic as these scenes actually are, they can be quite nice for me.

I can see that ^^.

Out of interest, does it have something to do with the orgasm being so frequent it becomes somewhat mundane? As if they have cum ten times already today, and will again soon enough?

It's not a direct co-relation, but I do love the idea of having such a sex crazed and sex-open world. Basically a place where Id runs rampant, so both tend to be elements of such.

Heh really glad you like it, Meesh is a very VERY talented artist and friend, so giving him this powerful orgasm idea for a commission was perfect, the back and forth to portray a real toe curling body sapping orgasm was fun and I could not imagine anyone but Meesh to pull it off.

Ah, thanks for sharing the behind the scenes development of that piece XD. Its interesting to hear how there was so much back and forth to get it right, and that it didn't just happen that way (not that anything in art ever does; but you know XD)

But yes, it is probably one of my all time favourite furry smut pieces ^^

Heh glad it inspires the blood to flow. XP

I think your explanation works for a lot of them, but I personally think there's also another factor at work; being in control. These characters are often power fantasies, and showing such a character momentarily not be 100% in control of themselves would work against that particular appeal. Just a thought.

it seems you are correct man, the self control element does seem to be a big factor in it ^^. Personally, I can think of a few qways to show an intense orgasms while still being in control, but I guess that is missing the point for some tastes.

So few artists capture any real sense of an actual orgasm in general. I get that some want to capture the dominating factor, but it seems to just apply to almost any situation. A character writhing in pleasure as they orgasm is surprisingly rare indeed.

it i rare to be writing so much; but even simple tension poses can work well IMO. For example, I found this one in my inbox yesterday, and while its certainly a lot more muted than the example I showed above, I still think that it sells the moment and feeling very well ^^:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/23321660/

Though I personally would have curled his fingers too, get some white knuckles going. Though I personally wouldn't have drawn anything a quarter as good.

Well said, buddy. Well said. I've seen that around a lot too. It was just the artist doing what they feel would be right. They really don't need to have pleased expressions or have their backs arched when they're cumming. It's artwork, and it's the way the artist wants to make it. But I do agree with you, they need to add at least some kind of reaction to their orgasms.

That's an intrusting point you get here!

Personally I try not to do am orgasm in my art, but I never thought of it this way.

Some people are just not good at depicting it, and other people let fantasy get in the way too much to properly depict it.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13734071/

I'll just leave this here for those who want examples of the faces of O.

Uhh??

...this doesn't reallly seem like something confusing, does it?

If I understood right, CSG is ok with growing characters with genitalia, but not with hypers or cumming or somethin'

It's more about how CSG isn't a fan of characters who don't seem to be enjoying their orgasms very much.
Actual climaxes are pretty debilitating, in a good way.
But many artists like to portray an orgasm as if it's really not something to take note of. The physical effects of the climax, the spooge, etc are all there, but there's no interest, as if this was something that was just no big deal.
"Ok, now I'm paying taxes, now I'm cleaning the countertop, now I'm having an orgasm... " This sort of lack of attention to how intense sex really is is surprisingly common. CSG is asking, if you're going to show a character cumming, show him -really- enjoying it, not being disinterested or posing weirdly.

Ah, I see

For at least some hyper art, the casual nature of it is definitely intentional. Some of us enjoy the idea of a a hyper-sexual world or scene where pumping out dozens of gallons of spunk is hardly worth mentioning ("you should see me when I REALLY get going" etc). Or where sex itself is as common as a handshake.

the problem though with that is that once sex becomes 'unimportant' or not something special is that it gains a sort of boring aspect to it. Yes, being able to have sex whenever you want to would be nice wouldn't it? But to use your example, imagine HAVING to have sex every time you meet someone new as a sort of courtesy, and not only that, but the pleasure and hoped for peak of excitement being reduced to the same pleasure and peak of excitement that you get from shaking someone's hand. To me that kinda kills the whole concept of an orgasm... not to mention now you're left with a huge mess to clean up.

Yeah I feel this ^^.

If someone is cumming so often that they have become used to it and its lost all its intensity, then a big part of the experiance has been lost and the whole tging seems kind of pointless.

Of course others can and do see it differently, but thats just my personal take on such situations ^^

I was going to add my own comment along Koril and even Pulsar's lines, about how for some, the "casual orgasm" is a real kink. It's about being horny enough to make a character and a world -so- sexual that a climax is no big deal, IE, it's like a casual greeting, you have no problems casually jacking off a total stranger in the town square, no one things that's weird, etcetc.

Now, that's a 180 from what I'm actually into, but I'm friends with enough people who are into it that I understand where they're coming from and why it's arousing to them. It's just not what floats my boat, but I've been doing this for so long, that I don't need peoples' appreciation or acceptance of my kinks anymore, now that I've seen such a variety and know how many people actually are out there who share my interests. Yes, this sort of thing actually can come with age. :biggrin:

I agree with your love of that piece from Meesh. That's the sort of intensity I love seeing from characters in art. I've gotten a few dozen commissions over the years, but none had an expression like that... mostly because for some reason I've always asked to have characters portrayed nude but not aroused, or at least, not climaxing. Oh well, some day. The first picture I thought of when you mentioned this was the female in http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17790126/ . I love that sort of thing.

Fair enough, and to an extent I get this. The idea that sex can be fantasised as being so frequent and mundane is kind of hot, and ive had many fantasies revolving around that. But having the orgasm itself be so mundane to me kind of ruins it as it devalues the payoff some.

Of course others can and do disagree; I can only speak for myself ^^

I've no doubt that many times it is indeed as you mentioned. Someone's already drawn a pinup and then they add the cum later because porn, I guess. Similarly, there are a lot of commissions done that I doubt the artist really cared about, so they draw the character as asked, have them dribble out some cum, and that's that.

But what I suspect most is the reason for the "I guess I'm cumming now" phenomenon, is directly related to power dynamics. You see this happen on a lot of herm and dickgirl characters as well. Muscled characters, characters with huge dicks, and large, powerful characters in general. These are the ones I happen to see it on most, and it's, I surmise, because sex and/or having sex to cum isn't what's hot to the artist or commissioner. It's the act of being the one in power that gets them off.

Similar to the act of rape in real life. It's not about getting off most of the time. It's about having power over someone. It feels good to them, like any activity they enjoy. You'll often time hear it as the reason vore is hot to some people. People eat that shit it up. (HAW.) Me, I don't get it, and that's why I'm primary proprietor of the 'orgasm_face' tag on e621.

Preach brother preach this has bugged me for so long

Well, I think the idea is that it's a fantasy world. Often times they likely want their character to be presented as such an in control dominant person that something like this wouldn't faze them or whatever.


I'm not a huge fan of them either, but I wouldn't say it's that bad of a thing.

Nah its not that bad a thing lol, as I said it was a light hearted rant. And while for me it detracts from the image, for a lot of others, they will see it differently.

However i think you can portay a character in control cumming with intensity; i know a lot of people have brough up the control/power portayal, but personally dont think thats tge best way to show it.

I actually never really thought or noticed it before I read this journal. You definitely got a point though now that I notice it. Luckily I got a commission coming from an artist that I think has a nice facial expression to go with the orgasm.

Mmph that picture, god yes

Also I always try to make my characters look like they're enjoying their climax :3

Yeah right!! Hehe. Your characters orgasms are usually unwilling!! (I’m kidding by the way, the unwilling aspect is insanely hot and makes it 10000% better for me as a watcher of yours! Controversial opinion but Unwilling orgasms >>> willing hehe)

Yup, thank you very much

also the 'growl face' gets me. people who are having sex, but look as if they're angry, or inflicting some sort of torture on their deserving target. this often also gets applied to orgasm images, so the person looks as if they upset that they're cumming.

perhaps, it depends on the context I guess. I personally think that it can be a good way to display power/dominance, without being sadistic about it.

though in many cases you are of course right.

Only in the furry fandom will you see a journal about "realistic" orgasm reactions in art.

Hey, orgasms are serious buisiness

I suppose so. It's probably more arousing to some viewers to see art mirroring a real sensation well rather than half baked. I'll admit I find the expressions on your art is a lot more erectifying than the bulk of NSFW work on FA.

tehehehe thanks

I do spend a lot of time trying to sell the face, so I get all giddy when people mention it.

I think you're overanalyzing it. Have you considered people draw it that way because they find it hot? I draw it a lot because I like it.

You're dangerously close to being this guy: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11347361/

Shots fired :o

But leaving aside the preface that the intended tone is light-hearted, its not like I am going doorknocking this opinion on others pages or submissions. I'm well aware that the world doesnt need to live up to my personal tastes, and that artists can and will draw whatever they like. And thats to be celebrated and encouraged.

But If a jornal on my own page is not an apropriate forum to share my personal opinion/taste on what I see, then what is?

You know, I gotta call you out on this too. Because it's totally not cool.

If you start a sentence with "I'm not a racist, but..." and then say something racist, you are indeed a racist.

If you punch someone in the face and say "it's just a prank, bro! Lol. Lighten up." You still punched somebody in the face.

You don't get to say "I'll preface this as being a light hearted rant" and then go and kink-shame a bunch of people, and then say "but it was intended to be light hearted!" That's the same insincere frat-bro douchebaggery that has pervaded every aspect of our culture, and it is Not. Acceptable.

I think this journal area is a perfectly appropriate forum to share your personal opinions. It also allows me to share my thoughts back, so I'll do that.

When you say things like, "I don't know why so many furry characters have such shitty orgasms." Does that not come across as the slightest bit presumptuous to you? Can you honestly say to me that's a lighthearted statement? I draw the things I draw for fun, and rather than just move on and not look at the art you don't like, you post a 700 word essay about how I'm drawing shitty orgasms? And then when I respond with something other than agreement, you complain your own page isn't a safe space where you can post your personal opinions.

Come on, man.

Did he like target you or something? Ahhh, debates that often cum from these sort of journals are always interesting. One person states their mind and someone gets hyper triggered. The human mind seems to always becum psychologically challenged when another's thoughts and opinions.

More on this when "Debating Orgasms" returns...

Gonna wade in here with my own insignificant opinion, but I hate to see two of my favourite artists coming to loggerheads.

I think this kind of stems from a lack of understanding on the part of Acheroth, who seems to think that "casual" orgams are either due to laziness, lack of skill on the part of the artist or a poor understanding of biology, which is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is actually a fetish. People not reacting significantly to their orgasm is an intentional thing, a fetish, so yes some people won't like it but like any other kink, people can like what they like and the rest of us can move on.

At the same time, the converse exists, with characters that are completely addled and out of their minds from a single orgasm. Admitedlly, that can happen in real life, but that's a pretty damn rare occurence but that is at least respected as a fetish and left alone. So I guess just try to understand that the passive orgasm thing is intentional and a fetish, and not hate on it as an artistic choice?

If the pair of you read this, thanks for doing so and know that you're both still excellent artists and I respect you both and enjoy your work immensely!

lol no such thing as an insignificant opinion! ^^

Truth be told I didn't know that the casual orgasm was a fetish! It does help explain why I see so many popping up around here. And with comments like yours I can understand it, even if I still don't personally get it ^^.

And for the record, I was never really hating on it. I sometimes go on ridiculous rants about silly things for fun; I've argued passionately on here in the past that dragons are mammals and american toilets are weird. I'm not meant to be taken seriously when I am talking about my taste in orgasm faces. I hope you weren't offended as that really was not my intention.

That's fair, I'm probably taking your journal a tad too seriously. But yeah, just like ahegao is a fetish for extreme orgasms, casual orgasms are their own fetish - usually used to reflect a highly sexualised world or sexually experienced character where the body is just so used to orgasming it doesn't go through the normal motions or prompt much of an emotional reaction.

And thanks for taking the time to read!

I'm talking about what faces and poses I like to see when furies orgasm. And I am doing so in a deliberately over the top manner for the sake of silliness. You are comparing it to racism and violence. Don't you think you are taking this way too seriously?

Yes, the quote you mentioned was a light-hearted remark. I was giggling when I wrote it. I prefaced the entire journal with the tone it was meant to be delivered in. You didn't find it funny. That's fine, a few people over the years have told me that I am not as funny as I think I am. That's life,

And I never mentioned anyone. I didn't link to a single piece or made a reference that would have targeted someone. You weren't even in my mind when I wrote any of this. I don't know why you've made this personal.

And your evocations of safe spaces is disingenuous. I engaged your argument, and never insinuated that your opinion was unwelcome, or that I didn't want to hear it. So again, I don't know why you have framed this as such.

You are kink-shaming.

At no point in the journal do you consider that this is a thing people enjoy and do intentionally. You don't even idly speculate that this could be the case. It doesn't even seem to cross your mind. You come right out with the following:

- Describing these pics as characters having "shitty orgasms" Because the characters aren't emoting the way you deem is appropriate and correct?

- You belittle furries as "more socially awkward and anxious than the average normie". Do you have a source for this? It's convenient when you can dismiss an entire kink on the grounds that it must only exist because people are broken.

- You even have the gall throw out, "So why do so many artists draw so many passive orgasms?" I don't know, did ask any. Did you even try?

I framed this with myself in the argument because it doesn't seem like you have humanized this issue whatsoever. You paint with such broad strokes and make such sweeping generalizations about the fandom and about the people who like this kink. I put myself into the sentence so it would patently obvious that there are actual individuals who enjoy this and who do it intentionally. I understand you didn't attack me directly, but you seem content to dismiss my interests wholesale.

Did you know this is a kink that some people enjoy and that many pictures are deliberately drawn this way? If you did, why would you be so dismissive of it?

Did you not know it was a thing? If you didn't know, why not ask around first, find out why people are doing it?

Furthermore, don't you recognize that this is at least a little bit hypocritical? You like macro art. You favorite art where things are being crushed, people's possessions are being destroyed and property is damaged. No one is writing a big screed on how you must be developmentally disabled and never got past the "knocking down blocks" stage as a kid. Destroying things is terrible—but it's also fantasy. Do I really need to explain to you that casual orgasming is a fantasy?

Am I taking it too seriously? May be. But from my side, all I see is a willfully ignorant journal. I see a kink I like being played for laughs. And when I defend it I get told I didn't get the joke. I guess I didn't.

The thing that really gets me about all of this is that we talked about it! When we met at MFF we stood there and had a conversation and a laugh about how people mischaracterize hyper and growth and "ha-ha, they just don't get that it's fantasy." But then as soon as you run into a kink that you don't get, you do exactly the same thing. I don't even know what to think about that, man.

wow.

I won't say you don't make some interesting points, but what's your goal in this?

You call this journal 'kink-shaming'. It seems more like an observational thing to me. And though he didn't go out and take a census on the subject matter, do you always do so before you write, draw or say anything? Give the guy a bit of a break for having an opinion of his own.

And to be fair, many other people who've read this feel the same way. I'm not *against* someone drawing whatever the fuck they want to or considering it a kink, but that doesn't mean if I see something I find odd, I'm not allowed to think (or say, or write) it's weird to me or even unpleasant, whether or not I understand it. Reading your comment gives the impression that you think anything weird someone draws needs to be... what? Treated with respect? Skirted around delicately and researched in depth just in case? No one is going to have a Big Book of Random Obscure Kinks in hand every time they start to write a journal or have a discussion, just in case someone gets offended over what they say or do. When looked at from the concept of 'this thing is a kink' BEFORE writing the journal, then I would take it as being passively hostile. But not when he didn't have the info of such being the case. And honestly? If we look at subject matter for journals like this, what CAN you talk about without it having a possibility of being someone's fetish? Isn't it the nature of fetishes that they can associate with pretty much anything?

I also had no idea this kind of drawing technique was a kink. A semi-common practice, yes. Do I like it? Not really. Does it bother me? ...a little. Am I gonna go write a journal or harrass other people over it? Nope; I'm not all that concerned over it.

There's is, and has been for decades, this concept that in furry and in art in general everything should be seen as perfectly fine no matter what it is without exception. Rape, murder (snuff), fuckin babies (cubporn), fuckin animals (beastiality) (remember those RL instructional journals some people were posting here a while back?). All of those are considered kinks, and therefore can't even be talked about negatively... even though they have been and in several cases resulted in certain topics being banned from the site. But no one can say anything negative about anything that gets drawn here, because someone else might get their feelings hurt or become insulted. If you already have a fetish, it's even worse because then just THINKING something else is weird puts you at fault somehow. Obviously if you like anything that is in and of itself strange, you have to like EVERYTHING strange, or at the very least refuse to speak up about the things you don't like or find odd. And it's never made sense to me. For example, I don't like cubporn, but I DO like soft vore. People into cubporn have told me I shouldn't talk, because I like something weird too. But I've met a few people who are into that stuff, and they get this creepy gleam in their eye and sound in their voice when talking about abusing and raping children, so... yeah. I dun like it, and I'll say so to anyone who asks.

The concept that no one can have any sort of negative opinion about something someone else *might* like is excessive and unrealistic at the least. And pointing out an artists percieved faults sometimes (if rarely; many artists either ignore criticism, or just shrugs it off as 'you not knowing what you're talking about' because their fanbase if egging them on and telling them to never change. Literally. Oh, and draw more art. Trying to improve just takes away from you drawing porn.) will sometimes result in said artist expanding their skills and increasing their abilities. If no one ever says anything about it though, then nothing happens. I find that sort of stagnation through acceptance to be repulsive.

I also find it odd that you're perfectly ok with doing all this in someone's journal, harshing on their writing practices, but it's not ok when someone does it refering to art. Maybe this is a kink of his!
...I'm joking. Tell me you know I'm joking. It's a kink of mine. Srs.

You say you find this to be a 'willfully ignorant journal'. How do you cure ignorance? Being quiet? 'Don't ask questions, it's better if you just don't know?' Only talk to your friends in private? By posting this, this artist is now aware of this kink... even though I think he has a point as well that some artists do it not because of it being a kink, but because they don't do faces so well, and it's a shortcut to completing an image as compared to working to draw that expressive 'O' face. By posting this journal, he gathered a bit of knowledge to himself and is now aware of what I will only say is a totally new kink to me; been around for a while and I would NEVER have thought a bland face while orgasming was a kink. I don't even... nevermind. You could knock me over with a feather, is all I'm saying.

In short (hopefully you took the time to read this) maybe it's not so much an attempt at kink-shaming... which to me always was the concept of going around trying to offend certain people by embarrassing them... but more an observation of a certain practice from a point of ignorance of it being 'a thing'. When looked at after reading your comment, he made a couple of assumptive statements, but nothing too harsh or furiously incorrect. For example the comment that 'furries are more socially awkward and anxious than the average normie' is by and large quite true, based on my years of conversations and observation, as well as simply being honest with myself. It's not unfair to say it, though I would have added a 'some' or 'most' to that phrase. There's nothing broken about being cautious or timid or reclusive, so you're just as guilty as he is for making THAT statement.

Anyway. Don't be too hard on each other, ok? It sounds like you know each other; Skype or Discord or what have you and talk it out; text is a faulty device for communicating feelings at best. Hopefully you get what I'm trying to say here clearly enough.

Well, I think it's just that cantstopgrowing didn't realize that a deadpan orgasm was a kink, a turn-on for some, actually quite a few people. Which is fine: we are all ignorant before we are educated.

Which is what I believe pulsar's intention was: to educate cantstopgrowing on a topic he demonstrated an ignorance of; maybe even to educate people like you. I think it is warranted that pulsar do like a PSA on this because I don't think the furry community at large is aware of this fetish. I have been because I've seen pulsar's work (and love it btw) and have seen pieces like this: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/6845385/ where I recognized the fetish being present.

That picture you posted? ...I don't think it counts. This is AFTER he's pretty much finished, was asleep during the onset of it, and his face has to some extent a sign that he's feeling what's happening. That expression isn't really 'deadpan'. This would be more like deadpan: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5222630/ ...though this is more like 'I don't really feel this' than 'deadpan'. The concept to me of a deadpan expression is one that could be put on someone walking down the street or gathered with friends on a street corner and it wouldn't look out of place. the one you posted he LOOKS like he just got done cummin', so it's not really the same to me.

As far as educating me? <shrugs> I've been 'learning' a lot about how sensitive people are to things in the past few years, so yeah. On a certain website, I was told by a mod that if I don't think art posted there is good (and by this, I mean giving criticism on the art I look at), I should 'do the adult thing' and not say so... basically telling me 'no negative comments or we'll ban you'. I have a lot of thoughts about the things I see in the fandom these days, but I know voicing them is more likely to get me ostracised from the 'accepting' fandom I joined so long ago than understood or debated with or even paid any attention to. So for the most part I feel I've learned enough in the direction of potentially offending people to last the rest of my life. Just don't talk to people online about your impressions of things too much; you'll get much further than you will by speaking your mind.

Even saying this much is almost guaranteed to get some people all triggered. :P

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Ohhhh I have definitely noticed this as well quite a bit. And yes it's bothersome to me as well for the same reasons you stated. It's as if their character has "gotten used to cumming like that." so they can play it off as just a normal thing. Even so I agree it makes it seem boring as hell, you put yourself in their position. If it felt so amazingly mind-numbingly good to unload a swimming pools worth of hot cum, you'd not just smile about it. The pull on those hefty balls the throbbing of that mighty shaft, the sensations rushing up through your entire body, it's nothing to just look "Ok" about. It is one of the best feelings that never gets old.

I don't have many of myself in climax apart from this one, but I did express how I'd want my expression to be and it's anything but casual: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/15291406/

Believe it or not, I am one of the few that actually loves teeth with my oral >:3 omnom

This is something that I have noticed in some art as well though. It's very surreal, witnessing an orgasm that has almost no effect on the one who is coming... One could argue that it could be a particular fetish though. The idea of someone casually spilling their splooge all over the place and giving 0 fucks about it does have a bit of appeal to it. Still strange, but I can see it.

Show by example then

Lol I've tried! Im certainly not the greatest 2D artist going around but ive always attempted to portay intensity whenever ive drawn the momemt ^^

Then make sure it shows In Your 3D

I have some ideas for when i finally do animate someone cumming ^^

Ok, I'll admit that in the Andre growth videos, especially the one with voice, I've long felt that the growth that he was feeling really felt somewhat orgasmic. It seemed like it felt too GOOD for him to grow for it not to be extremely pleasurable, even if not sexual at the start. I think the facial expressions that we see somewhat support it. ^_^

I look forwards to it then.....I wanna see what you've got

I don't know. Some artists and commissioners(Myself included) might very well prefer to have the freedom to choose their own expressions, rather than just have the typical O face :P

and of course you are XD. As I mentioned that was just a light-hearted rant, I'm not actually a hater, I favorite these things all the time. Besides, life would be boring if we all liked the same things.

Actually no it wouldn't as Im sure there would be billions of dollars currently invested in genetically engineering dragons that grew whenever they came >.> And pixar porn movies while we all waited. That sounds like a very interesting world to live in.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE LIKE ME DAMN IT

Why, of course they should! Big ass dragons and pixar porn for everyone! Seems like a much better world than if everyone shared my interests. Lets just say, we would all be dead within minutes :P

Anyways, I didn't really take your journal for anything but a light hearted rant. I guess I just wanted to leave my opinion, however limited or shitty it may be :P

I am one of those commissioners who will normally get one of these "passive orgasms" done.

But when I get them done there is normally two themes going on in the picture: hypersexed and/or transformation/growth.

For me, a "passive orgasm" for a hypersexed character means that they have become numb to the experience. Imagine working at a pizza parlor. Getting to eat pizza everyday would be fun in the beginning, but you'll soon be sick of it while still needing to go work with the food you no longer crave. This could be said for hypersexed characters. That dopamine high during orgasm gets less-and-less effective as they unload to the point where, hey they're just relieving pressure or trying to "chase the dragon." Its an everyday occurrence that no longer have as much meaning as it did in the beginning or they were born that way.

For Transformation/Growth "passive orgasms" to me its more or less is just the shock that their bodies have changed is overriding any pleasure their orgasm would produce.

Regular pinups...eh I could see where you are going, but hey "passive orgasms" is just a kink :)

Thank you for this. I love seeing other people point out -in a light-hearted manner- the illogical, discordant, inconsistent, and inexplicable things in furry art/porn.

Lol thanks XD. Theres plenty to point out of course! I mean the whole premise of the whole fandom is kind of silly; but silly is the textire that makes life worth experiancing IMO ^^

I wouldn't know am still a virgin here and even in bed my orgasms don't bother me enough to wake me from slumber and I certainly haven't done it into my palm here.

Oh really, you dont wake up? :o admittedly I havent had a lot of wet dreams, but when I have had them, they've certainly woken me up! (Annoyingly it tends to happen before the peak, which is wby i havent had a lot of them :()

Nope I generally dont find out I had a wet dream until I do wake up to go to the bathroom or just my alarm.

Actually there is something to be said for a guy who's shooting his load while going about his business

I know I shouldn't be, but I am a bit jealous of that woman who couldn't stop cumming that was reported a few years back. That would be a nice little superpower to be able to turn on and off, especially if you never ran dry ^^

Now there's a DC film I would be excited to see XD

Yes I must admit that's rather a sexy idea. Constant orgasming and cumming with stop but it's pretty normal from your perspective. I think there is a fetish within the fandom around that

The passive orgasm is actually a Fetish of mine. As Rekhit said, there's something to be said for the guy that has the self control to be unaffected by his orgasm. Expressions and spasms and writhing in bliss are wonderful, but the thought of a male being blasted with intense pleasure but only grinning at the bliss hits a special button in my brain. It's even better If there's body control involved and the individual wants to buck and groan and lose themselves, but whatever is controlling them won't allow for it.

I dunno, maybe I'm just weird S:

lol were all weird around here so don't spend too much time worrying about it XD And I can definitely see the appeal when you explain it, even though I don't personally share it.

Out of curiosity though, with your 'even better' scenario, would that include bondage and such, if you don't mind me asking?

Well, that's the appeal of body control for me. You don't need bondage, since the person's body isn't theirs to control. They can still think, they're still fully conscious and aware and able to feel everything happening to their bodies, but there's nothing they can do to control it. I suppose bondage could be involved if the person/thing/whatever wanted to see them tied up. Maybe to take pictures or film?

In my gallery, one example of orgasm comes to mind where the facial expression is particularly intense: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/18727929/

Then again, I'm a fan of how Korichi draws facial expressions overall.

That's a good one!

I can understand the idea of reducing the orgasm, currently one of the highest expressions of pleasure in mundane exsistance, to simple action can look odd, kinda like how others see being macro as selfish and boring, just being too big. each one has a lens you need to look through to see it.

Like, for me personally, I enjoy the idea of a casual orgasm not actually being an "orgasm", but rather the body being productive enough to force a strong ejaculation without all the pleasure associated with a full orgasm. Instead the person could still have the "immobilizing orgasm" by partaking in sex, which would then be a real orgasm. So that's why I enjoy the idea.

But I can understand you simply see it as turning what should be the goal of any sexual fantasy into a dull, bored thing that seems barely worth having. Like pleasure is just a minor time sink for the day.

Whenever I have an orgasm I just blankly stare at a wall or out a window and sigh heavily afterwards for up to several minutes.

Usually when I orgasm, I just completely lose touch with reality and sit there with cock in hand and eyes wide, an empty shell of a husk, for what feels like eternity but is actually just a cheeky 9 hour stretch

I think it's a thing of showing strength and power and virility, as in 'I just came, ain't no thing, I can go a hundred times!'
But yea, I can totally get behind showing greater throes of orgasm. Especially when it comes to macro characters. Could imagine my orc, over a hundred feet tall, pounding a building til he cums, toes curling, his grip getting too rough on the building and breaking them, losing his balance...

Hmm, okay...where to begin in this ocean of paragraphs and thoughts? ...

Well, first I'll say that this was an interesting topic. One I don't think I've ever noticed before on this website so congrats for making the first one I've seen thus far.

Second, while I understand that emotion is a big driving point in art, as is the curvature of anatomy, tone, highlights/shadows, etc, Pulsar brought up a good point. Not all of us think with that emotion in mind when we make art work. I break art work down into two categories when I see it pertains to porn (feel free to disagree with me):

1) Erotic Art Work
2) Fetish Art Work

Erotic artwork then is focusing more on the inner beauty of the subject in an a-rated scenario or scene.

Fetish artwork is more aimed at, you guessed it, the stuff that we enjoy seeing that drives our imaginations WILD.

So back to my point. You say that art work that doesn't have their character feeling the emotion during orgasm should not be. Again, my argument here is that maybe that is just the way the artist intended it (as Pulsar points out). If that is true, then perhaps the artist chose to have the subject covered in cum in a post-orgasmic manner. There is little emotion because the moment has passed, leaving the subject covered in "baby batter", and that's just the way the artist wanted it.

Now, if I use my "Erotic Art work v Fetish Art work" hypothesis, then CSG, your argument holds more ground. I too believe that in this setting, the emotions and the beauty that is found in the eroticism of the art work is what really should speak. In that case, yes, a subject in the middle of an orgasm should have veiny balls, convulsions, a volcano/geyser of cum spurting out the top and we should really be able to read the subject's face to see the expressions clearly visible in not only the eyebrows but the eyes and mouth. In this scenario, I would say I agree and think that proper expressions should be more visible.

Now, to end this and tie it altogether, if we can think of porn in two categories: Fetish vs Erotic, then it becomes much easier to distinguish when said expressions would be more suitable or necessary. In Erotic art work, expressions as well as the compositional features of art play a much larger role than if it were fetish artwork, which only seeks to stir the fantasies of our deepest desires and fetishes. Fetish art work would then be more open to the interpretations set by the artist, not necessarily have to condone to expression on a real-world basis. I guess what I am trying to say, in my own hasty manner, is that while I agree with your arguments, CSG, I can also see Pulsar's point here. Art is, of course, subjective, and left open to the interpretation of the viewer. While sincere, genuine expressions can enhance an art work in a good way and bring more "life and depth" to it, at the same time, it may not be the true intention. We are free to create art the way we choose fits our interpretations best. If we wish to portray our characters mid orgasm without much care, we can certainly choose to do just that.

If you took your time to read this, I appreciate it. Sorry if I rambled on but I had a lot to say.

Orgasm driven growth is the best!

I have a few stories where someone grows bigger and bigger each time they cum... if anyone interested:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17699230/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10388963/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19886107/

As for pictures, the first came to my mind in my favorites:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/18226120/
He clearly enjoys himself.

I'm a virgin. But I've had CyberSex thousands of times. Let me think of it as... simple
Ideas we create together, for a sexual thing, just so we don't get some sexual disease, or maybe even you desire a gender that doesn't nautrally occor (PFFF I prefer Futanari, or Girls with Dicks)
My desires are for rediculous things that are unrealistic, and I know for a fact alot of you are, too, and it's cool that we share this. But yeah, I just shrug off the virginity because I kinda don't really like people in real life all too much. Furries? Scalies? Like the way people detour eachother from being NORMIES is ... Being Different!! XD hehe~
Anywho, I'm antisocial, and.. I'm on some social platform, and someone's going to see this one day, and I'm sure I'm going to think one day someone would want to have fun with me, but I just don't want to pro-create for the sake of my fantasies XD