It looks cute! I loved the first two. The whole.... uh... “warlord is hunting all the dragons” thing seems kinda redundant, but otherwise the movie looks fun and the Lightfury is adorable.

Like it, a bit standerd fair perhaps.
But clichie dont mean its bad by default.
I kind of like for instance that Hiccup seem to encourage it, and wont be all bro jelly.

Toothless act around the light fury was funny

ill be honest, im super excited to see Toothless and this Lightfury get together....seeing him be a fool while trying to court her just makes me laugh. Also I hear that she is somewhat more of a water dweller, hence why her ridge down her back is like a fin/sail rather then spines....and i think thats awesome!

Gives her sleeker, more "feminine" appearance more of a realistic feel to it. This is going to be super emotional for everyone and im super excited

To be honest, I didn't notice, that there was a second movie. I knew about the series, but not this. I thought a second movie was NOW about to come out. xD

Ulooks very good. I know it's going to break me. Happy, love, crying, sad.

Also...I saw a bearded hiccup...so maybe no breaking up?


How would you lot feel of they did a digimon season 3? Like say the dragons hanvr to go away or something...and they cut years later, and hiccup finds them?

Pay attention to the trailer dialog from Hiccup:

"We all have to disappear! Completely off the map!"

Considering the Berk vikings seem to be the only humans to really get on with dragons, combined with Toothless pretty much NEEDING Hiccup for his continued survival... I gets the feeling that wherever the dragons end up, the Berk vikings are going with.

I am sooooo much hoping that's how it ends... because if it's just the whole "Hiccup has to learn to live without dragons now" bit it's going to destroy me.

Hyped....sooooo flocking hyped

I second the motion. Loved the first two films when they were released and this upcoming one is making me want to see it just as badly. Wish it would come out sooner so it can put me out of my misery.

Looks amazing, and the Lightfury is so adorable! and Toothless trying to impress her is going to no less than cute, and amusing all in one go, I can't wait to see it!

It's another series that needs to die at this point.

didn't like the poster, but the trailer gives me hope

my god I can't get over Toothless' mating dances...
https://i.imgur.com/gNTvjET.gifv

This is the best thing ever. If I had a man so devoted to me as Toothless is, I'd be happy XD

Gotta agree about the poster, imho it looks a bit 'cheap'. Those bright blue lights.... meh they don't blend well together xD They could've done a better job

Dreamworks always gets points for impressive visuals and charming animation. Maybe the trailer's content is meant to tease a more open-ended conclusion.

I wish they would of informed me that I would be in the movie >_>

Personally I didn't like the second movie's villain - I didn't like the concept of an "alpha," or that dragon mind control was a thing. I feel like it could have been done better, and this villain seems like he might do it better...but it's essentially looking like the same plot point. "We're here to take your dragons." Okay, I guess if it's well-executed it could be good? It does seem like "Hiccup knows a secret and has to protect that secret from a bad guy" is kind of the series' main staple, so I hope it actually evolves beyond Hiccup having to protect the secret dragon world from the big bad dragon hunter.

My real concern is that...well, my least favorite plot point in any fantasy series is "The magic has to go away." I understand that in a lot of fantasy works it's a metaphor for growing up. It's about leaving behind the world of make-believe and all that, but this is a fantasy movie about dragons. Dragons are awesome. They don't need to pull some kind of "And then the dragons have to go away forever" plot out to be poignant and meaningful.

Puff the Magic Dragon is a sad song because it beats on the very human element of growing up and everything magical going away. Good movies and good stories don't need this to be emotional and heartfelt, it's just senseless exploitation.

well the alpha mind control thing was also in the first movie it was how that one they fight at end controlled the other dragons

So happy. Been waiting for this!

My opinion stays about the same. I don't think it would be terrible at all, but i'm still skeptical.

So far by itself, it seems to have a nice bit of humor, action, conflict, romance and probably a good story.
While w/ the others, both good, it might have the same good pacing and the right amount of immersive feeling to draw us into a good experience to, as it said, 'conclude' a well done 3 part tale.

I sadly must say what I had to say about the trailer:

Well, I'm worried. It blatantly says "used to be dragons", which implies the same sort of ending that happened to "A Flight of Dragons" where dragons are thrown into an alternate dimension/universe where there are no humans. This is compounded with the various humans showing up, both in the second movie and now the third, who seek to exterminate dragons for control or for sport.

I can't say I'm hyped about it at all.

It really infuriates me when a wonderful, pleasing world is made like this and then it's just dashed to the ground as a sort of "oh yeah ,that's fantasy, you can't have that".

... Why can't I have that? It's the whole reason I joined the adventure in the first place.

I'm afraid about that too, sadly :/ but I dunno, it would make a unique ending. Not the usual "They lived happily ever after" type.

It's not all that unique. Stories about dinosaurs and dragons generally always go "and then they all died/were never heard from again". I don't need booster shots to remind me that my reality lacks these aspects.

^this. That's whta I discussed with Narse yesterday, always the same thing with movies involving dragons: they are seen as murderer, slaughtering, violent creatures etc etc, and the movie always finish with the dragon(s) being killed, disappeared etc etc . HTTYD broke that code with the 1st, so why doing it with the 3rd? Dean Deblois and Bonnie Arnold are going to make a serious mess, and except with a sudden and unexpected plot twist, the end will hurt, and a lot.

Except the movies are based off of the books, and in the end of the books the dragons DO all disappear, whether for their own safety or not.

as you said, the movies "are based on", but they are not following them. I mean, the characters may have the same name, locations may have the same name, BUT everything is different from the books. As I said in Narse's previous journal, why wanting to create a universe "based on the book, but different", if it is to melt the thing in the end? That's a total non sense, and that's the thing that irritates me with the 3rd movie. But we'll see, a sudden unexpected plot twist can happen, it's something dreamworks sometimes do.

The one hope we have is that Hiccup is seen as a MAN WITH TOOTHLESS. This could be the smoking gun that dragons had to be gone "for a while" but now, talking to HIS kid, he can take them to the land of dragons.

He also is notorious for speaking of events that didn't happen or in ways that they don't happen.

let's hope then x3

Eh, movies don't have to follow the books. Look at Eragon. The book as amazing. The movie butchered the book in so many ways I don't know where to start.

Yes, and it's all to pull for no reason other than being bankrupt on ideas.

Is this new villian is related to Drago? They each have a ship with the same banner. Are those night fury eggs?!! Looks kinda like a night fury. Has similar ears and nose but I've read that NF eggs need to rest on the peaks of mountains. I got really excited near the end because we see Toohless getting wrapped up.in lighting.

Really liked the trailer and the concept. What disappointed me a little was that the villain seems awfully similar to the one from the previous movie. Wish they would've found a more poignant theme for the antagonist other than "hurr durr I love slaying/enslaving/torturing/whatever cruel and villainous thing you can think of" villains.

Generally humans are just like that and I think part of the aspect is that Berk is the ONLY place that lived WITH dragons, all other areas either conquered the dragons or were conquered by the dragons. I mean, look at how stubborn the entire cast is in the first film of accepting something different. Had Stoic succeeded in wiping out the "nest" and the other youths not helping save everyone from the green death, he likely never would have changed his views.

Hickup has a nice beard game going.

I read the books a LONG time ago. (highly recommended if you're looking for good reads for the summer.) I wonder how close to the books this one will be.

I'd watch it.

I do have mixed feelings for this; it has plenty going on for it, with silly moments and plot progression with an otherwise chill villain. It looks typical, yet underneath it, it's not.

It didn't change my mind about what we discussed yesterday Narse. However, there is a a small scene, that caught my attention, and could lead to another path for the ending. Will go to see for sure, even in preview if I can find a theater that shows it, but I know in the end, I won't go out of the theater unharmed, at least, psychologically ^^"

The trailer is so cute. I friggen love Toothless' mating dances. The villain bears a strong resemblance to the last one, however I think I see a slight difference. Draggo wanted to enslave dragons and make them weapons of war, wereas this new guy seems to be like a big game hunter.

I think the plot will be something along the lines of: The hunter is much more formidable than what the heroes originally thought, and begins wrecking the viking's shit. It becomes apparent that where ever Toothless is, this guy will follow. And that by staying with Hiccup, Toothless is going to keep drawing more and more danger to them. There's this two second shot where it looks like the village's buildings are being destroyed, which is where I get the 'OP bad guy' vibe. Thus, all these conflicts lead to a hard decision. For both dragons and vikings to have peace, Toothless and the other dragons have to flee to a hidden world inaccessible to the hunter.

Still looking forward to seeing it.

I love the bond between humans and dragons that has developed from these movies. The Light Fury is an interesting addition, though I can't help but wonder if Toothless will revert to his more natural instincts and leave Hiccup to do what comes naturally. Interesting to see how he will be able to fly on his own without his human.

Regardless, I've loved the movies and look forward to it. Always nice to see a dragon feature for both the youth and adults alike that isn't annoying.

First off its adorkable. Toothless is such a little derp and its the best. But hey if Hollywood has taught me anything its that the dork gets the girl in the end. Go get laid you adorable derg you! Also, my money is on them taking more of a compromise approach to the ending. Yes adults love these movies but so do kids, and they want to sell toys and stuff, so my guess is they will do something like have all of Burk end up going with the dragons. Sure i have nothing to back it up, but meh, i just put my chips on double zero and hoping for the best XD SPIN THAT WHEEL!

I cried. I don't want it to end. But by the sounds of it the whole village is going into hiding with the dragons so it sounds like Hiccup and Toothless won't be separated now. Like you I watched all the the TV Show and the movies and the bonus movies and I have so much toothless stuff. I Love him to death and will miss the series dearly.

I was really fearful of the idea, since it's far more cliche' than I'd like. But it looks like it may work...hopefully. I guess I'm more worried that I'm just going to be crying the whole time.

-pterodactyl screeching- AHHHHHHHHHH

LIGHTFURY IS SOOO CUTTEEEEE

This gave me hope. The fact that they opened up with "there used to be dragons" and then showed us adult Hickup with a beard standing next to Toothless leads me to believe that they are going to go the way of the book, with the dragons disappearing, but then end with a reunion and a sort of happily ever after. I think that's about as good as you can hope for, to be honest!

Maybe it ends with hickup and his tribe living in the hidden world with the dragons and noone ever saw any dragons anymore.

Well it looks like what I feared that the whole trilogy is going to end with them leaving and probably never coming back since the director said that the lesson for Hiccup in part 3 is learning to let go. Welp guess that does it then, I choose HTTYD 2's ending as the ending point and HTTYD 3 will won't exist in my canon unless it does something like they leave and then years later they come back.

I already went through that hell once reading the 'Where the dragons went' SCP and I refuse to do it again.

It looks fairly decent though I do see some repetition from the second movie with the hunter character and the traditional cliches of this kind of story. Though, it was awesome to see Toothless harness the power of Thor in that one clip. Yet, he seems to be such a klutzy dork around the ladies.

I'm not really hype for that.
The lightfury design is pretty lazy, the trailer doesn't give her any clues on her personality, so I'm kinda fearing a standard bland love interest forced in the film there.
A hidden place with dragons has already been done in the second film. Even the first one.
Another big battle against humans trying to capture dragons apparently, certainly another fight between the dragon lovers and the dragon haters.
Didn't really find anything original, and I feel it's going to be very predictable and not original like "most" of the animated film sequels.
I'm a bit picky but yeah, kinda fearing this one. Still have to admit I'm not a fan of the franchise, I just find that Toothless is freaking sexy. So at least it should bring another wave of rule34 =P

It dressed it up really nice, but I stand by what I said about it. I hate everything about this stupid plot and especially that bitch ass light fury.

White lady dragon has some kinda warp skill which will probably be a plot point and the place dragons disappear to, judging by the line about her "disappearing". Possibly Toothless learns it too and they end up pulling off Big Hero 6 with Toothless ejecting Hiccup somehow before going into that warp thing.

I mean that's what I feel will happen.

"it's you n me buddy, forever!"


This gives me hope that Toothless and Hiccup won't separate ;0;

Not enough information was revealed in the trailer to get excited about, sadly.

From what I'm hearing, it seems that the humans and the dragons will have to go separate ways for some bullcrap reason. I'm getting a little tired of the cliché stories about a really awesome and interesting friendship coming to a close because of X or Y unavoidable circumstances. Sometimes nice things longer than just your early 20's.

It looks to be a bit cliche, but, I think it'll will be amazing regardless. I would like to bring up that they played this card too, with HTTYD 2, giving a plot point away, and a lot of folks thinking it would ruin the movie... but it did anything but!

I need it in and around my face at all times

I do like how the the trailer doesn't seem to be giving too much away. So far it's a bit cliche and Toothless is a silly biscuit. I think there's gonna be more to it.

Glad to see someone else who has read the Fletcher books ^^

Speaking of dragon books I wish to mention E. E. Knight's Age of Fire series..
As well Jane Yolen's Pit Dragon Chronicles...

Apologies for random comment..

I will see about looking into some of these.. thank you!

Also, sorry for late reply.

Am I the only one who doesn't like the portrayal of dragons as "cat-dog"-like?
I mean it's cute and all but it downplays that you have a dragon as mount/companion if it's just a glorified dog/cat.
I never liked HTTYD. The only upside this movie has is the resurfacing of more dragon porn.

She's growing on me more and more. :v

feels like they are sort of rehashing the second movie and try to make it on a bigger scale, we'll see how it turns out :3
Toothless is always

So, like, the fact that it didn't alleviate any of our fears - while not exactly outright supporting them - from your previous journal kinda made me a bit more anxious. That being said, I'm now even more super exited for it to come out!

The 'Lightfury' idea is a little lame... but it's interesting.

I also am kinda tired of the concept of the 'super powerful dragon slayer viking warlord with thousands of followers who wants to destroy all dragons' concept. They could have waited another year andd dug a bit deeper to come up with something a bit more original.

I honestly think that Dean knows how to direct this series, and I trust him to finish it up well. Even as an older man and with a beard, Hiccup still looks hot. :)

My one complaint is that we seemingly have another new villain. Drago was implicitly stated to still 'be out there' at the end of the second film, and unless the Netflix series shows what happens regarding him, I had expected him to be a returning threat. It's entirely possible that this new villain teams up with Drago, and its the combined threat we're seeing in this film.

Beyond that small irritation to my sense of 'continuation', I look forward to this and think it should be a pretty good ending to the series!

The lightfury is going to be a dude

Calling it

The trailer raised my hopes slightly, especially when I saw older Hiccup with Toothless. However, the AMA with Dean DeBlois quickly dashed my hopes again. He even referenced E.T., which in my opinion would be the worst possible outcome for Hiccup & Toothless.

Besides that, I still don't like the idea of a "Light Fury" as a mate for Toothless. I actually do kind of like the dragon itself; I just object to the way it's being used.

The visuals looked good, but then again it's 2018, so that's basically expected.

All in all... meh. There's not really enough here to make me want to see this.

I'm thinking the plot will be a bit of a rehash of the previous movie: bad guy coming to kill dragons instead of enslave them. Hidden world with new dragons (minus his long lost mom). Toothless finding out he has new powers he never knew about. I'm not knocking it, just pointing out what I'm seeing from that small trailer. I imagine if people liked the first, they'll like this one as well. I'm betting by the very end we'll see a nightfury egg to show hope for the species though most of these kids movies show them falling in love in one film and kids in the next film.

Okay so the, "when I was young there used to be dragons," makes me think the story is frames as a future Hiccup talking about how and why the dragons went away. While the, "we all need to disappear," mid way through the trailer makes me think they all vanish and hide together.

Obviously my hopes is for the latter. However, the Reddit post with the director where he says 10/10 scale you will cry and that he thinks it's a shame to hear that your films don't make people cry I suspect he will deliberately make it the former presumably to because he hates childhoods.

Now in order to use humor to mask real pain I will now espouse every vitriolic thought that crossed my mind while watching that.

Don't do it Toothless! That whore will never love you like Hiccup! Bros before Hoes! Band of Brothers!

The trailer in itself wasn't that great in my opinion, it shows a lot of things that could've been a surprise in the movie

But besides that it's alright, I'm not too fond of the Light Fury's design, but it's still How to train your Dragon so I like it :p
Toothless's still the best though!

<_< ... >_> ...how do the kids say it these days? Toothless...you don't got game. Thankfully, it looks like she's in to dorks. :p

Well, since you said to share my thoughts, here goes: The trailer gives the whole plot of the movie away.

The first two sentences say it all: "there were dragons when I was a boy. Where they went only a few know." Then comes, "our story changed the world forever." You see Hiccup with a beard and Toothless next to him. The rest of the trailer, Hiccup doesn't have a beard. So you already know almost the entire movie is going to be a flashback and the dragons are "gone" at the end.

The trailer sets up the situation: Hiccup thinks it's a dragon/viking utopia, with everyone getting along. But there's an overcrowding problem, Berk is too small, the dragons vastly outnumber the vikings, and the vikings are starting to become annoyed with them. A nameless bad guy shows up that hunts dragons and is apparently enough of a threat that you hear Hiccup give the lines, "we're no longer safe here. We all have to disappear completely off the map." They find a hidden world (the tagline of the movie) to move the dragons to, and that's it.

Oh and there's a side story about Toothless getting a girlfriend.

oh look, the dragon version of crusch lulu

I like her design, but hate it contextually. As for the courting bits, I was legit laughing when he mimicked the bird of paradise gif

Benefit of the doubt, for sure. The first two movies are amazing, so I have high hopes for this one. Though I have to agree with many previous posters that it seems like recycled plot elements are going to feature front-and-center.

In case you missed it: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27599517/

I can't deal. That movie is going to destroy my heart, and the score is going to hurt so good. Even that piano music of the theme at the beginning at that trailer is so perfect and beautiful and beyond sad.

I hadn't seen these journals previously (heck, I don't know why I wasn't even watching you despite following your art for years). Having read the last journal however.. I can relate with you as well.

This movie impacted me like no other. I was 11 when I saw the first film, and despite being uninterested due to the mediocre trailer, I was so hooked emotionally. I grew up with this franchise; I've met and made so many friends in the fandom, it helped me cope during hard times, and it's never waded off. 8 years later and nothing tops the level of emotional impact th movie has had on me. And I cannot get over Toothless at all, haha

The second movie... Was not that great in my opinion, and it took me a while to realize just how bad it is as a story (aside from the cringy, stereotypical villain and the terrible Deus ex machina/lazy final battle). So my expectations for the third film are very, very low. I'll still watch it; I might still enjoy it, it might make me cry. However...

Like, there's no reason at all story wise to end the same way as the books did. It's like half way through, Dean thought it would be a nice tribute to do so. But again, it's just.. ugh.
I read some of the comments about how this is following the heart-breaking trend where "the magic goes away" but why should it? Indeed, why must they undo everything that made the first movie special? The first film broke the trend of dragons being evil creatures or inferior pets. It gave them intelligence, reason, character. And despite it being 8 years old now,I feel like it's too soon for the story to end; for Hiccup and Toothless to part ways. Gah, I dunno. It's crushing at a very personal part of me, and I'd be okay with it only if it were well executed. Yet every bit of news that I've heard so far gets me even more nervous.

As for the light fury... It's like they introduced her JUST for the sake of giving Toothless a love interest, or as a plot device to give him a reason to return to the wild. We all hoped to see another night fury, yet here we learn that Toothless is the last one (while she isn't, of her kind at least). So she's not there to save the species as everyone had assumed. What purpose does she serve then? It just seems like they're going with the most cliche of reasons, still directing the movie for children alone and forgetting that most of their audience has already grown.

I have a lot of mixed and perhaps even negative feelings about this movie.. You've probably heard them all from a bunch of different people. I feel it will be a big success for the casual viewers, but leave those of us who were there from the beginning heartbroken. But I comfort myself with this thought: I'm glad that this franchise came to be, regardless of how it'll end. The first film is a masterpiece on it's own, and failure of any series/sequel will never overshadow the powerful emotion it has had over me after all these years.