Well I'm a gay, and I like males, but hey if your audience is mostly into females then that's what it is. Do what makes you happy. :D HUG

Aww, I like your male stuff... No worries, either way I still enjoy it

Think of it as having two audiences: One that has a preference for male stuff while another one for female stuff. You have been working out on having an audience that likes female stuff so far, but not so much for the male stuff. If you'd want to have more comments on those kind of pictures, you have to build an audience for it.

I hope that makes sense.

Aww come on, you look at the art on this site like 60 percent of the people here are gay or bi. It's not like I've only just started drawing male cars, my first one dates back to the beginnings of my account.

I don't mind if there's something about my male art people don't like, I just want to know what it is that's all so I can stop doing whatever it is.

You've had male car art in the past that's done really well, haven't you? It's personally my favorite subject matter with what you do by a country mile.

I can't speak exactly to why your audience would respond more to one thing over another, but you're definitely not the first artist I see running into this frustration. There's any number of factors beyond the sex of the subjects that could have impacted it. Sorry your hard work wasn't validated the way you like. :(

Yeah the Disgustang one did pretty good.. I mean I guess the male art seems to trend lower then the famale art on average but still.. not to this extent.

Yeah, thanks. I mean it's not like Im asking for paragraph long feedback even just a simple "man that's hot a shit" would be fine. Just when it gets nothing at all it makes me think people don't like it or something..

I am complete ass at figuring out what generates feedback for the things I post on my account. Same situation with high effort gets passed over where a hastier one gets way more. I'm more at a point where I take what I get and just try and be happy knowing that I'm at least content with what I've done. Because I'd go crazy and back to lurking silently otherwise. :(

As for your own work and me, other than being away for a few weeks until just this past Wednesday, I've been bad about commenting in general lately. I don't always have anything to say on pinups when I can't really cling to some additional weird kink or idea. But I do really appreciate the lore work you dabbled in!

Well thanks Kabby, I was holding out that maybe people were abroad for Christmas but.. yeah.

I'm not trying to force your feedback I just wanted to honestly know if I did something wrong.

I certainly don't think you did anything wrong at all! I always think an artist should either stick to what makes them happy or at least work to find a middle-ground between that and what they feel their audience (usually paying) wants from them. But I'd be bummed if your conclusion ever wound up being that your male cars weren't worth pursuing for whatever reason! ;w; <3

I left that as a factor Foxy, I figured "well maybe people are just out of state for Christmas or something else related to Christmas." but then I uploaded two pictures since then that have done great, and I just re-uploaded the Blake picture thinking.. I dunno maybe it passed under people's radar somehow or maybe people didn't think I drew it since looks so different then my other stuff with the writing on it and stuff. But then it got nothing either.

I know some people are able to be independent of their comments but I'm not and never have.. comments are my ultimate reward for drawing what I draw, its the feedback that gives me joy in what I'm doing. Hearing that maybe it's caused someone to see that cars are actually kinda sexy, or hearing that it got them off, or maybe even a spontaneous RP forming about the picture.. it's all great.

Now I'm not attacking you with this question I just want you to be honest. If you like my male art, and you weren't too busy to comment here, then why didn't you comment on the picture? Please, I just want to know what I'm doing wrong. : (

It's NEVER too late.. lol

Draw whatever you want
Don't let the amount of comments or favs you get dictate what you draw more or less of.

Also, think of those who like your male drawings

It wasn't because he's male, it's because there were humans in it.

I put a version of him by himself in scraps. : /

I agree with Sleeves here. Humans in art-when used as fetish tools as the "reindeer" were-tend to drive people off. There are a few scenarios where it works (macros using them as prey, for example, or using them as "supporting" characters) but...most of the time it's a flop.

Also, look at the content of the comments. Four of the 20 comments on the female pic are actually constructive. The others are either you replying, or people roleplaying in the comments. The male pic has two constructive comments and no roleplaying.

Your "Reindeer Games" pic has earned more favorites and views than the other, as well.

You understand the lore of the picture right? You know Blake is a porn-star for people who are into cars in-universe right? If anyone in those videos is used as a fetish-tool its him, the girls in costume were just to fit the Christmas theme. I know this is a furry website but you can't seriously tell me that humans are ANTI-attractive to you can you? Not to mention Blake takes up like %80 of the picture, you can't ignore the girls in the scene? I don't know if you watch my scraps but I told Sleeves I uploaded Blake there by himself too just in case this was the case.

It doesn't matter to me if the feedback is constructive or not, just that something is said at all. I enjoy hearing what people think, or participating in those random RPs that spring up, or discussing the lore, or hearing that people are seeing my stuff for the first time and never thought they'd see a car as sexy till now.. that makes me feel good.

It's favorites that don't do crap for me.

I reckon you should draw whatever the hell you want to draw. I personally don't click the male pics, but as long as you and a niche audience like the male stuff, don't stop on the account of us boob loving knuckle draggers!

Clearly the internet wants more nose sex.

clearly lol

i think that is to be expected, i mean look at your gallery and profile, like 90% of your current content are females leaving the other 10% for males, i'm guessing people came here for the cars with the big tittys not the cars with the big balls,

i mean even your profile pic entices those that are drawn to breasts

also as for the quick sketch i think that the popularity of it is more due to the weirdness of it and possibly the story behind it

weird things are popular here

Damnit Red why are you always so smart? *smacks your 350Z ass*

"weird things are popular here" - I can't argue with that..

Draw what you want, I'll at least view every picture you post as I'm not very picky. But do what you think is right

1, I don't watch peoples scraps or look at sketches, usually.
2. You're not going to score a home run with every upload.
3. Car fucking is niche. Expect low turnouts.
4. You've got a lot more male fans because most of your art involving females involves demeaning stereotypes. Like the ditzy car or the slutty nympho daughter of a religious man. These are all cliche's used by some to paint women in a disrespectful light. Your art has a large focus on male power fantasy. Guys dig it. Women, not so much.

It doesn't make your art bad. Just understand that's why it has such a skewed audience.


TBH you really need to focus on doing what you want and saying fuck it to pleasing others.

Well fuck Zidders... you sure put me in my place... o__o *sits down*

I'm not trying to put you in any place but in a place where you can feel freer to explore your creativity without worrying about whether people are into what you do or not. You're not a commercial artist. If you were or were trying to be then yeah-you'd have to worry about views and catering to a mass audience which would mean abandoning most if not all of what you enjoy doing to do stuff that suits the mainstream. You don't want to do that, right? So don't worry about views. Yeah, it sucks not getting a ton of them. I know how much because I post mostly poetry. I get one guaranteed fav every poem because I have one watcher who fav's everything I post (which I'm very, very grateful for). Otherwise I'm lucky if I get two or three non-ardent fan fav's every nine or ten I post.

It can be demoralizing. Frustrating, depressing and make you want to quit but you've got these characters and stories inside you and they need to be told. You've got this passion that needs expressing. When you get years down the road and look back do you want to regret not giving them a chance at giving these characters a chance at life or do you want to be able to say, "I may not have gotten a ton of attention but at least I did something. At least I can look back and share a smile with all these awesome characters I've created and relive the stories I told with them."

I could be totally wrong here of course. Maybe my advice is bad. You're more than welcome to tell me to ease off and I'll respect that. In fact I apologize if I come off as lecturing you. I don't mean to do that at all. I just hate seeing someone who seems like a decent person and does amazing work get so frustrated to the point of feeling they need to stop creating.

As others have said, it probably just has to do with the sexual preferences of those who follow you... As you know, I quite love the way you do male cars and trucks! I understand the feeling of not getting the appreciation on certain artwork though, and it does suck, but it's no reason to stop drawing what you want to draw at all!

As someone who only recently discovered that I'm into cars (thanks to your art), I think I know the reason male cars often don't get as much attention. Those who are into females immediately have an easy way to love their car (tailpipe), whereas those of us who are more into receiving penetration don't always make the connection that it's even possible to love a car intimately. So, I think it makes sense that a lot of people who know they're into cars are into the female ones. If that makes sense.
I do really hope you're not discouraged from drawing male cars, I love seeing that art from you!

You can let him fuck you with his stick-shift or parking break handle...

To be honest the shifter on my car is way too thick so I never thought about that 😅 but yeah true, I think it's just less of an obvious thought for people sometimes. Idk, maybe my train of thought isn't accurate but it makes sense from my own experiences.

Lol I guess it depends on how much girth you're willing to try and take lol.

True. I do know my limits though my Volvo's big shifter is definitely too much for me!

His dick is too big. Well maybe you can jerk him off.

As a hyper I love your male pics! Although for the stuff I'm into I wouldn't mind seeing him pop anyone sometime, either~

lol.. pop?

Don't always let your followers control what you do! ;) You draw what you're in the mood for. If you're in the mood for guys then do it! You'll end up drawing females again afterwards and vice versa. :D drawing what you're in the mood for comes out better than stuff people want you to draw. (Unless you're in the mood for what they asked for. Lol)

Well I'm still waiting on comments on said picture... why don't you support male car porn and leave some feedback on Blake's pic? :P

You might be surprised..

and that poor drawing still only has two people who've ever said anything on it..