And this is why I normally don't read journals. 'Cause there goes most of my respect for you right out of the window.

Same lol

Honestly this just screams of "I don't understand it and it scares me." And it's okay not to understand something. I don't understand it either.

But... yikes.

Haw, and there's my own reminder that furries are unable to accept ANY dissenting opinion. Your offense is noted but I'm not really torn up about it, I've been vocal about things I dislike on my own page for many years now. Besides I've never drawn vore so if that's something you like, what are you even doing here?

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/28811341/

I'm going to hazard a guess that you were banned from e621 for constantly posting about how you dislike certain things, ex. vore, when you could've just blacklisted it - or refrained from sharing your opinion in a place where no one asked for it.

Lol yea, and they proved my point by doing it. I just made a new name and came back anyway, all my stuff is still there, Lucas is quite popular on e6.

Either way suppressing me in such a manner only validated my point that furries can't take any dissenting opinion, even if it's just an idea and not directed at them at all, its like the Islam of internet groups.

You can't stop people from expressing ideas, even if it's in a vacuum. Fine they didn't want me to say I hate vore on their page? I'll do it on my own. Stop me, I dare ya.

Okay, so here's my take here, and I'm going to try to help both sides of this understand where the other is coming from.
Yes, it's okay to dislike something, yes, it's okay to express your opinions. However, with regards to the E621 issue it just leads to flamewars and nothing productive which is why the moderators discourage it and highly encourage the blacklist. If you don't like something, you do not need to subject yourself to seeing it.
Now, inherently people are going to take an adversarial stance if you enter into their communities and begin talking about how much you dislike them. Try to put yourself in their own shoes and think about if somebody randomly showed up and started complaining about Pokemon and how it's bestiality and wrong. You'd be inclined to fire back. E621 isn't a place for discussion, at least on images, and logically if they disliked something it would have been better for them to simply avoid it.

Sadly, Furaffinity has no filtering, so it's more understandable to be irritated and feel subjected to it here. I dislike loading the main page myself due to all the scat and vore, but that's an issue with the site, please, don't take it out on the users who like something, they can't control if you're exposed to it or not on here any more than you yourself can.

On the end of Jeff here, yeah, furries can be a bit touchy in general, and they tend to get grumpy at the drop of a hat. That sucks, but you gotta do what you gotta do to deal with the more sensitive folks. It can get frustrating at times to feel muffled, unable to do or say what you want without uproar and outrage, but eventually you'll figure out a middleground between freely expressing ideas, diplomatically stating things, and just generally keeping things worded in such a way that, while by no means "PC" (dear god, I detest that idea so much) convey the point in a mature and less flame-prone manner. That's a difficult balancing act, though, and it'll take a long time to master.

Fair enough, but posting this here on my own personal page was an active choice on my part to state an opinion without berating others. So basically people are coming to me to tell me that I'M wrong and disrespectful, kinda just proves my point about censorship.

I avoid staying around e6 for too long, I dont understand the point of comments and ratings if the mods will not do a thing about mass downvotes or somethin, I can understand wanting to avoid flame wars, but then again why have comment sections anyway?

Furries to me are not always very civil, prone to anger, touchy and I wouldn't be surprised if they made attempts to shut me down.

Then again thats why this is on my own page, and not anybody elses, if they want to "lose respect" for me over a weird and (in my opinion) dumb fetish, that's on them. I didn't need that sort of flighty person on my page anyway.

Besides what do you care? You don't even draw your own work, so you have no idea what struggling against weird fetish art is even like.

Of course I can, I know that people are going to disagree, its not a big deal. And tbh it may seem odd to you but if you check my journals I've been very vocal about my likes and dislikes for years. It's why I avoid furry chatrooms because they HATE it when I start criticizing fetishes because they all take it so personally.

Yea I like some fetishes, but I really dislike some others, a lot, and since my phone doesn't have an ad block I have to see some of it...but rather than go around berating other people I'd rather just keep it on my own page in my own little zone, cuz that's what its for. I don't have to like everything that furries like, and if they "lose all respect" for me well thats on them, I'm not broken up about it, just as many people if not more agree with me anyway.

It's not about you having a diffrent opinion. I don't care whether you like or hate a certain fetish. But telling people that their fetish qualifies them for being mentally ill while having some niche fetish yourself is either a really poor choice of words or simply hypocritical.
And for the record, I was watching you because I like your art.

There's healthy fetishes, and then there are unhealthy ones. Ya wanna tell ppl into scat that wallowing in piss and shit is perfectly healthy and safe? Go for it.

Wanna know what else is unhealthy? Spending so much time looking at fetish porn when you could be developing a healthy sexuality based on reality and a real healthy sexual relationship. I already know for a fact spending so much time online has fucked up my mind cuz I can see the results of it all in myself.

And thanks for the watch! But no thank you for never actively commending or providing real feedback on my work that I slave over.

hehe "slave over" yeah okay buddy. your head so far up your ass its incredible. there is a difference between being an ass hole and stating your opinion like a normal person. wouldnt expect any thing else from a truck driver who thinks his jobs the "hardest" in the world.
you know with how much you complained about stuff like this you would actually try and do something about it instead of just crying about it all the time. instead of saying shit and acting surprised when people say stuff like this in the comment section. I really hope you get help dude

Pppft, okay...and what exactly would I do about it? Why would I do anything about it? What you saying I should go on a rampage to ban vore? That's suppression of free speech and free thought, I'm not about that.

And yea, I do put a lot of effort into my job, and my art, thanks for noticing Mr Non-Artist. Why are you here again? Don't you have some weird transformation porn to go jerk off to? The fact you're getting mad at a post I've made on my own page, just proves my point about furries being unable to take any criticism.

Don't fuckin go at my throat just because you are butthurt, unlike you I have talent and a good grip on reality.

oooo touched a nerve did I? :3

9000% Agreed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nnun8y7r8_U

LOL Yea basically that sums it up nicely.

And i see a lion dude ad and its cringy

I mean, I don't like it either, but it's just fiction to me. Everyone has some weird kink, just the way brains are wired up, I don't view it as being worth anything more than a "Different strokes for different folks" on my end so long as they keep it to fantasy.
Now, somebody actually tries to eat somebody, or actually tries to fuck a horse, that's when I think even folks into the fantasy end of things can agree that something is genuinely, severely wrong.

Dunno, maybe I'm just too apathetic toward things I find unpleasant.

Well said.

I try to make an effort to be articulate and well-spoken. Doesn't always work out well, though.
I'm just used to the whole "stop having wrongbadfun" attitude, so it does always pluck a nerve with me if I don't know where it's coming from. An example would be the war on violent videogames, D&D, and rock and roll where because something is disliked or contains fictional content one might find objectionable, it is used to label and mark those who enjoy it.
I try to fall into the group of "if it don't hurt nobody, ain't my right to care".

I can understand your apathy, but I get a lot of weird requests from people. As an artist it infuriates me when dumb fetish shit out does the real work some of us put into our pieces. Maybe it's an artist thing? Who knows.

Ahh, I see the problem. You're tired of it because you keep getting people bothering you for it, right? I know a few artists who get nailed with constant vore buyers even though they hate the stuff. Best I can recommend is to put a big ol' "Not Doing This" list up of things you won't draw.
As for fetish stuff outdoing more mundane art, living creatures are inherently sexual by nature. While aesthetic is nice, keep in mind that at the end of the day we are kinda programmed to seek out sex. Most of us, anyway.

Well see I rarely if ever take commissions at all and ppl will ask anyway so eh.

Oh I'm aware of the sexual nature of things, I'm also aware that it's the only way to ever be seen in this fandom, I'm grateful for what I have but I'm not willing to sacrifice my integrity to get seen...regardless I'll still voice concerns and opinions on my page since, that's what it's for.

How dare you
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That's offensive to cannibals.

LOL I guess I better watch out huh

Yea it would probably help if I put "No Anatomically Imposssible shit allowed here" wouldn't it?

Same

My man

Its all so tiresome

You mean all the weird shit? I often wonder if these ppl ever do anything constructive with their lives besides furry shit.

Although I have no strong opinions on vore, seeing constant ads about it and it cropping up everywhere DOES leave a bad taste in ones' mouth about it... pun somewhat intended

LOL oh you

With an icon like mine I GOTTA be the comedian. :3

I'll never understand this unspoken rule among furries where expressing dislike of something is met with the most extreme prejudice.

Simple criticism will send you fucking remedial bitches into a fucking frenzy.

OP doesn't like Vore. OP doesn't HAVE to like vore. It's still there and you can still like it. It's OK if OP doesn't like vore. Get over yourselves immediately.

I swear so many of you are fuckin' bitch babies and it doesn't surprise me people outside of this community look at y'all like aliens.

Calm the fuck down.

Well said, my friend. Always good to see more self aware people actually exist.

It seems a little pretentious to be critical of people liking a fetish, when to the outside observer, enjoying furry-anthro creations can be construed as a fetish itself lol

I understand your points, but who cares? Let them be. I'm sure to some my ENF fetish is boring, impractical, and not liked for hiding the naughty bits with arms, hands, or conveniently censoring objects / legs.

You talk about developing a "healthy sexuality based on reality" but proceeds to draw sexually appealing furry characters lmao (which dont exist and probably never will).

The point is, while you're free to criticize it, I find it incredibly difficult and hypocritical to criticize anything in the furry community as it's based on fantasy itself.
I'm not defending the extreme fetishes, I just don't see the point?

I dont like scat, hyper, or diaper fetishes (among many others) myself, but I dont find any reason to call people out on it so long as they dont shove it in my face.

If you're having trouble with people asking you to draw vore art, a TOS never hurts, especially mentioning that the commissioner should be aware of what are you normally produce any way.

I like vore art ironically. It makes for some great maw, jaw, and mouth references. The Garfield memes are funny too! lol

Anyway, you know me irl and my mentality on things. Not trying to attack you on anything.
Cheers!

I get that mentality but thats generally why I keep it on my personal page these days, to avoid antagonizing people.

I guess I care so much because I find it so stupid and also just...ridiculous? I try to have a balanced life and I know you do too, I don't live breathe and endlessly consume furry media, I have other likes. I grow tired of seeing people so obsessed with escapism, they have no grip on reality and it'll show in the things they do.

Idk why I make it my problem tbh, I know far too many people who do nothing but complain or just spend all their time in chat rooms, and hell as people have stated above, they will get militant when their fantasies are threatened, it just shows how much they depend on this stuff to be happy.

Either way, I just got sick of seeing ads. I almost never take commissions and yet I still sometimes get requests, so it is what it is. But out of all the possible fetishes, vore to me is just the stupidest, I don't get it, and I never will, and I will actively avoid people into it. That's just me, I don't see everything in my life as a potential for sexualization like some people, there's a time and place so...maybe I just need an ad blocker.

I get you!
Believe me there's many times I want to speak my mind. However it's usually all for naught and doesn't lead to any positive resolutions aside from being blocked, blacklisted, or doxxed.
I've been doxxed before over sharing my views. It's not worth it. I just keep my mouth shut now and hope for the best.
I'd rather share my views through my art rather than actual words. At least art can be interpreted in, hopefully, different ways or perspectives.
It's sad, I don't disagree with you on that, and hopefully you don't silence yourself in the end. You have more courage than I in many ways.

Ya can't keep a good critic down! Besides if people reject me over the words of someone else trying to badmouth me, I didn't need those people in my life anyway, obviously its different for you given your position and career, so I sympathize. I just surround myself with more and more people who don't mind that I'm so outspoken, and besides, my watchlist hasn't really changed at all over this...if anything it's grown xD

ITT people who don't use adblock

Even with it off, they take up so little space I barely notice them. *shrug* Also, if you want to support the site, you kinda have to leave it off.

Would probably be nice if you could blacklist certain kinds of ads though.

On the other other hand though, I don't think I've even seen a boob in an ad, much less vore. So, JeffTheHusky here is angry at the actual word "vore"??? Besides the concept, I mean.