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Borris won the election, but he lost the Brexit proxi vote
6 years ago
Finally got the actual vote numbers
In the brexit corner:
Conservatives: 43.6%
Brexit party: 2.0%
Total: 45.6%
In the remain corner:
Labour: 32.1%
Lib Dem: 11.6%
SNP: 3.9%
Total: 47.6%
Much as the lying scum might claim to represent the will of the people, the people have made it very clear they do not support his keystone policy. Given the choice, the majority voted for parties opposed to Brexit.
And of course Brexit is still a terrible idea that will do terrible damage to the economy, and the young still hate it, and Brexit/Torry supporters are still dying of old age at a rate of 300k per year. And it remains to be seen how many will continue to support Brexit if it actually happens and thru get their face rubbed in how many 'campaign fear' predictions actually start affecting them. And Borris may still be aiming for a no-deal Brexit by sabotaging the future relationship negotiations that will start the moment the withdrawal agreement is signed.
Only hope at this point is that enough tories, especially the new ones, want to be re elected come the next election, and the one after that, and finally have an ohshit moment and realise that will never happen if they support Brexit.
Though given their supporters will kick them out anyway if they don't...
In the brexit corner:
Conservatives: 43.6%
Brexit party: 2.0%
Total: 45.6%
In the remain corner:
Labour: 32.1%
Lib Dem: 11.6%
SNP: 3.9%
Total: 47.6%
Much as the lying scum might claim to represent the will of the people, the people have made it very clear they do not support his keystone policy. Given the choice, the majority voted for parties opposed to Brexit.
And of course Brexit is still a terrible idea that will do terrible damage to the economy, and the young still hate it, and Brexit/Torry supporters are still dying of old age at a rate of 300k per year. And it remains to be seen how many will continue to support Brexit if it actually happens and thru get their face rubbed in how many 'campaign fear' predictions actually start affecting them. And Borris may still be aiming for a no-deal Brexit by sabotaging the future relationship negotiations that will start the moment the withdrawal agreement is signed.
Only hope at this point is that enough tories, especially the new ones, want to be re elected come the next election, and the one after that, and finally have an ohshit moment and realise that will never happen if they support Brexit.
Though given their supporters will kick them out anyway if they don't...
Both elections should have been re-do's since we know they were not valid.
That's right, all this news flimflam is to sell ads ...
Be interesting to see what it says when it comes out. Assuming it does...
Over here I'm laughing at the so-called impeachment crap. If they'd actually had anything on him they would have used it long ago. This is just to weaken his already low support in the hopes we don't have another four years of him. (sadly, I haven't seen anything on the other side that isn't as bad if not worse than orange boy ...)
Happy holidays and good luck to all of us!
Second hand knowledge, first hand knowledge, witnesses, a pile of evidence that pretty much screams high crimes and misdemeanors, a long list of examples of obstruction of justice, and a bunch of scholars saying that if what he did was not high crimes and misdemeanors, nothing is.
I'd say that the only thing they might not have is an actual recording of him doing a crime, but that already happened when he urged China to interfere in US domestic affairs directly on the White House lawn (Not to mention, the "Russia, if you're listening..." incident during the election).
Impeachment is a sure thing at this point. Conviction in the senate will never happen because Republican's would rather play the role of accessory to the crime because "party over country".
Anyone who says Democrats have nothing on Trump are either not paying attention or are willfully ignorant.
https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impea.....able-offenses/
Heh, and most of the same sources had some of the stuff Hillery was reported to have done should have had her not just in jail but under it. Yet somehow that didn't happen either.
"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed." -- Mark Twain
And by 'somehow' what you mean is that she was actually fully investigated, and the accusations either turned out to be complete fabrications or not rising to the level of criminal conduct. The only thing that could be pinned on her was poor email security, and we later found out that LOTS of politicians did the same thing, including the Trumps, so if they had found her guilty half the hill would have had to follow her into jail. Which is probably part of why she wasn't.
By contrast Trump has been investigated and there is a shedload of evidence he has done bad things, including a track record of exactly this kind of thing, and damning statements on TV by key players. The two situations really aren't comparable.
Sorry mate, but some of us do more than read the newspapers, and some of don't need the newspapers to tell us the sky is blue. He won't get removed by the senate, but that will just tarr the GOP senators as bad as he is.
And while all our news is on big bad bratty trump, his numbers are somehow getting better? Worse yet - you don't even hear which Dems are trying to run and why they'd be better - all the impeachment noise has drowned them out.
It's almost like the Dems want him in for another four ...
Labour – 32.2%
Liberal Democrats – 11.5%
Scottish National Party – 3.9%
A party that openly championed Brexit won by a landslide. :\
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/13/perc.....tion-11898913/
Come January 31st, Brexit is practically a sure thing: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/johns.....tion-1.5396633
If Remainers wanted to stop this, this was the second referendum they were hoping for. Unfortunately, they lost again. As far as I can tell, the country's fate is sealed now.
If you want to treat this as a proxi referendum, the you have to use the rules of a refendum, and remain got the most votes. And also, to be clear, won with a margin of victory perfectly in line with all the polls done on the subject since last spring.