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TL;DR. I GOT SUSPENDED FOR A STORY I WROTE TEN YEARS AGO. TRIED TO APPEAL. ADMINS DIDN’T RESPOND. SERIOUSLY CONTEMPLATING MY FUTURE OF STAYING ON THIS WEBSITE. IF YOU WANT THE FULL STORY, KEEP READING.
EDIT: UPDATE HERE: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9425208/
Hey everybody. I guess I’m back now.
So long story short, I got suspended. Whoo. And no, it wasn’t because of something I said about the admins, or something I did recently, or because I harassed anyone, or whatever. I was banned for writing “Diaper Trashed” roughly ten years ago. Now, according to the admins, this story contains “a child soiling a diaper for sexual purposes.” This absolute did not happen. What occurred in the story was that an otter turned into a diaper—not because transforming was sexy to him, or because he got hard at the thought of being a cub’s dirty diaper. He was transformed basically because his friend was fuckin’ around and wanted to use him as a guinea pig. And after he turned into a diaper, the otter was worn by his friend’s baby brother, who is a cub. Now yes, the cub soils the diaper. Yes, the diaper is happy that he is being used. Yes, the scene involving the diaper soiling is explicitly described in detail. But there was no sexual content or context involved. Nobody in the story masturbates. Nobody has sex with the child. Nobody exposes their genitals to the child. Nobody touches the child's privates. Nobody gets an erection watching the child soil his diaper. There is a sequence where a character turns into a diaper and feels joy over it, yes. But there is nothing sexual here; the diaper is simply happy, nothing more, nothing less.
“This doesn’t mean the commissioner and everyone who read the story didn’t masturbate to it.”
Mm. Yes. That is indeed a valid point. And perhaps that is the reason why I was suspended to begin with. But I personally do not care what people masturbate to. If you’re into rape or castration or transformation or scat or vore or cubs—whatever, I don’t care. So long as it’s fiction, I really don’t care what you fap to. Now I’m going to show you all a series of images—all of which are rated “General,” and I want you to tell me if they’re a bit “explicit” or not, or if they’re any different from what I wrote.
Here are two images depicting cubs messily soiling their diapers:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/10212859/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/23857509/
Here are three images of children engaging in omorashi, which is "a form of fetish subculture originating and predominately recognized in Japan, in which participants experience arousal from having a full bladder or wetting themselves, or from seeing someone else experiencing a full bladder or wetting themselves."
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15644615/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/31050264/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34989148/
By definition, these children are allegedly engaging in a fetish designed to create arousal amongst themselves or others. Now here is a picture involving diaper transformation where a child wears said diaper after said transformation, most notably here:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15089775/
”This doesn’t change the fact that you basically wrote something that someone could find arousing.”
Mm, yes. You have a valid point. Now then, on that note, when I first joined this website, I wrote this series called “How to Raise a Dragon.” The story was rated “General,” but for the sake of argument, I deleted it. Why? Because Part 3 contains a scene where a feral adolescent dragon shits his diaper. And unlike “Diaper Trashed,” it was nowhere near as explicit or graphic. It was just very gross toilet humor.
Somebody masturbated to this story. I shall not reveal their name, but this person shamelessly said they were gonna beat off to it. They came back later with an update saying they did indeed masturbate to it.
There are many artists on this website who have written and/or drawn content that doesn’t contain sexual images of cubs, but contains underage characters messily soiling/wetting their diapers to the point of almost being a fetish that someone would use for masturbation.
Catmonkshiro’s examples:
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/32718665/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/35079181/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26319684/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34773527/
DJ-Poopypants’ examples:
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17295546/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17149279/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17168866/
Friar's examples:
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/7548429/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/6865971/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/5796296/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/9899839/
Now before anyone says anything, no. I have nothing against any of these artists. I have no problem with their art. I have no problem with what they draw. Catmonkshiro in particular has a very lovely art style; I like how toony it is and how all the characters he draws stand out in all his images. Still though,
“To be fair, it just sounds like you’re trying to pass off the blame to other people who draw diaper content. Unlike your story, people can see that nothing sexual is happening.”
Mm. Yes. Perhaps you are right. Perhaps the admins were right to ban me. Perhaps the fault was mine entirely. But if this story was such a huge problem then…why did it take so long for the admins to do anything about it? This story was finished back in 2010. It was literally a decade ago. This story was not recent at all. But apparently someone read the story, was uncomfortable with it, reported it, and then the admins immediately suspended me, took down the story, and threw up an excuse to pulling the story.
”Jake, why are you even complaining about this in a journal? This isn’t our fault; shouldn’t you be taking this to the admins?”
Oh, I did. I sent them an email. I tried to get my suspension removed through an appeal. The first time I sent an email, they replied in about thirty-six hours telling me they couldn’t verify my account because I used the wrong email. Which to be fair, that was entirely my fault. So I resent the email under a different account. I sent the new email Wednesday morning.
It is currently Sunday.
They have not said a word to me since then.
”Tcyk89, it was only a week. The admins banned you for submitting content that was very divisive and made some users uncomfortable. There’s nothing wrong with what the admins did.”
Mm, yes. This is true. Maybe the suspension was warranted. Perhaps you are right. Explain to me then why
NoteYote was suspended for using the word “cub” in a story. Before anyone says anything, his story had no underage characters and involved adult orcs engaged in sexual content. However the word “cub” was used as a nickname for someone, so he got suspended. His story got taken down. You can actually read more about it right here.
“Okay, so maybe the admins made a mistake. Maybe they rightfully suspended your account.”
Mm, yes. Now then, I’m going to show you an image:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/13649279/
This image depicts Jake Long, the main character from American Dragon Jake Long. This image shows the character revealing his penis. This image is rated “Adult.”
“Okay. So what’s the problem?”
Jake Long is thirteen. In Season 2 of the show, he’s fourteen. Jake Long is a teenager. According to the AUP, minors are prohibited. The rules state:
“Submissions involving sexual situations cannot contain characters under 18 or adolescent animals. Minors cannot be around nudity or unless it’s a non-sexual depiction of birth or breastfeeding. Minors cannot have or be around detailed outlines of genitalia or hyper genitalia.”
I’m gonna show a list of images now:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34456807/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/27608246/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/20486467/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8266233/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15459290/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29929103/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8319329/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8188417/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/504092/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/31575676/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29967660/
All these images depict a character who is, in canon, stated to be a teenager in high school. None of these images make it clear that Jake Long is an adult. More importantly, if Jake Long was an adult, then why are there certain images on this website specifying that he turned 18, or that he’s an adult?
“He’s in dragon form in most of these images. They age in dragon form; that doesn’t count.”
Mm. Yes. Perhaps you’re right. Take a gander at these two images—both depicting Jake in dragon form.
This one specifies that all the characters are over 18.
This one does not.
So my question here is this: if Jake Long is 18 when he turns into a dragon, then why is the artist specifying he’s 18 when he shouldn’t have to? If Jake Long is not 18, then why is the second image still on FA along with the first one? Seems contradictory to me.
I mean…heh. Based on the logic of the rules that got me banned, I could flag every single image of Jake Long on FA that do not specify that he is 18. And according to the rules, every single one of these images should be taken down, and every single artist who drew this minor engaged in blatantly obvious sexual activity should be suspended. Yes. This includes
Narse and 
JustMeGabeNewell, and I thoroughly love their art. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut they broke the rules. So I guess they gotta be suspended, right?
”Jake, it’s porn for fuck’s sake! Why the fuck do you care?!”
I don’t care. If you find Jake Long sexy in his dragon form, fine. But he’s thirteen or fourteen years old. This is canon to the TV series. This is a fact. Nothing you say or do will get around that fact. And nothing the admins say or do will get around the fact that this website has thousands of images of him on it, despite it being prohibited.
Now lemme fill y’all in on something secret. I uploaded a story on my other account called Tails of Fame. In chapter 16, the main character broke into a family’s house, raped and murdered everyone inside, and had it all videotaped so he could sell the footage making snuff films. One character was a teenager. One was the teenager’s younger brother. Thing is, nothing was explicit. The actual rapes and murders? It all happened off-screen. We see the aftermath, but none of it actually happened gratuitously. This doesn’t change the fact that a teenager and another minor were raped.
No one said a thing.
In chapter 12, another main character commits a terrorist attack in an amusement park. He and his cohorts mowed down hundreds of innocent people. This includes children. Unlike the aforementioned rapes? This was shown. This was fully-detailed, fully written out. It’s made very clear that children were murdered. Onscreen.
No one said a thing.
Y’all wanna know how long Tails of Fame was on FA before I deleted it?
SEVEN MONTHS.
Yeah. …Yeah.
This whole situation, and the admins’ lack of really communicating anything to me during the suspension, and the fact that it’s so easy to get suspended here has seriously sullied my viewpoints of this website. Before anyone panics, no. I’m not leaving. But as of right now?
I HAVE ONE STRIKE LEFT.
If someone flags one of my stories for whatever reason, that’s it. I’m permanently banned. And I won’t be able to do anything about it. So in case that happens and you wanna contact me, I would highly implore that you jot down my contact information. Jot down my Twitter account. Jot down my SoFurry account—which I plan on blowing the dust off of soon enough after the shit that happened here. Jot down my Telegram, my Skype, and my Discord names. Because I could be banned as early as tomorrow for all I know.
I have deleted the “How to Raise Your Dragon” stories. I have deleted Tails of Fame. I still have both stories on my hard drive—along with “Diaper Trashed”—so if someone wants to read them, let me know. I will not be deleting any other stories from my gallery. I do not have time to look through them all. If the admins ban me for a story I wrote five or seven years ago, oh well. If they ban me for writing the commission that has many adults regressing so they have the minds of children, even though they are still clearly adults, oh well. If they ban me for making a story with dwarf alligators in diapers who pretend to be plushies, even though it is explicitly stated multiple times that they are adults who are dwarves, oh well.
I think the worst part about all this is that I reopened commissions because a lot of people were asking about them and were excited about them. And honestly I actually wanted to reopen them. I haven’t done anything on this account in several months and then when I finally do something, boom. This happens. And I’m at the point right now where if I get banned from this site, that’s just fine. That just gives me more of a reason to spend my free time writing stories that aren’t porn or fetish-based. That gives me more time to write these grandiose stories that are full of world building and interesting characters and gritty action and plot-driven narratives on top of sneaking in smelly, chubby, flatulent characters for my own personal pleasures.
…Maybe it’s a sign or some shit. Maybe it’s time to just move on to better and greater things. I dunno.
So.
It is past midnight.
I am very tired.
My head is hurting.
I am going to go to bed.
And hopefully when I wake up, I will still be able to log into my account.
EDIT: UPDATE HERE: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9425208/
Hey everybody. I guess I’m back now.
So long story short, I got suspended. Whoo. And no, it wasn’t because of something I said about the admins, or something I did recently, or because I harassed anyone, or whatever. I was banned for writing “Diaper Trashed” roughly ten years ago. Now, according to the admins, this story contains “a child soiling a diaper for sexual purposes.” This absolute did not happen. What occurred in the story was that an otter turned into a diaper—not because transforming was sexy to him, or because he got hard at the thought of being a cub’s dirty diaper. He was transformed basically because his friend was fuckin’ around and wanted to use him as a guinea pig. And after he turned into a diaper, the otter was worn by his friend’s baby brother, who is a cub. Now yes, the cub soils the diaper. Yes, the diaper is happy that he is being used. Yes, the scene involving the diaper soiling is explicitly described in detail. But there was no sexual content or context involved. Nobody in the story masturbates. Nobody has sex with the child. Nobody exposes their genitals to the child. Nobody touches the child's privates. Nobody gets an erection watching the child soil his diaper. There is a sequence where a character turns into a diaper and feels joy over it, yes. But there is nothing sexual here; the diaper is simply happy, nothing more, nothing less.
“This doesn’t mean the commissioner and everyone who read the story didn’t masturbate to it.”
Mm. Yes. That is indeed a valid point. And perhaps that is the reason why I was suspended to begin with. But I personally do not care what people masturbate to. If you’re into rape or castration or transformation or scat or vore or cubs—whatever, I don’t care. So long as it’s fiction, I really don’t care what you fap to. Now I’m going to show you all a series of images—all of which are rated “General,” and I want you to tell me if they’re a bit “explicit” or not, or if they’re any different from what I wrote.
Here are two images depicting cubs messily soiling their diapers:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/10212859/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/23857509/
Here are three images of children engaging in omorashi, which is "a form of fetish subculture originating and predominately recognized in Japan, in which participants experience arousal from having a full bladder or wetting themselves, or from seeing someone else experiencing a full bladder or wetting themselves."
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15644615/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/31050264/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34989148/
By definition, these children are allegedly engaging in a fetish designed to create arousal amongst themselves or others. Now here is a picture involving diaper transformation where a child wears said diaper after said transformation, most notably here:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15089775/
”This doesn’t change the fact that you basically wrote something that someone could find arousing.”
Mm, yes. You have a valid point. Now then, on that note, when I first joined this website, I wrote this series called “How to Raise a Dragon.” The story was rated “General,” but for the sake of argument, I deleted it. Why? Because Part 3 contains a scene where a feral adolescent dragon shits his diaper. And unlike “Diaper Trashed,” it was nowhere near as explicit or graphic. It was just very gross toilet humor.
Somebody masturbated to this story. I shall not reveal their name, but this person shamelessly said they were gonna beat off to it. They came back later with an update saying they did indeed masturbate to it.
There are many artists on this website who have written and/or drawn content that doesn’t contain sexual images of cubs, but contains underage characters messily soiling/wetting their diapers to the point of almost being a fetish that someone would use for masturbation.
Catmonkshiro’s examples:- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/32718665/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/35079181/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/26319684/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34773527/
DJ-Poopypants’ examples:- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17295546/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17149279/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17168866/
Friar's examples:- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/7548429/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/6865971/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/5796296/
- https://www.furaffinity.net/view/9899839/
Now before anyone says anything, no. I have nothing against any of these artists. I have no problem with their art. I have no problem with what they draw. Catmonkshiro in particular has a very lovely art style; I like how toony it is and how all the characters he draws stand out in all his images. Still though,
“To be fair, it just sounds like you’re trying to pass off the blame to other people who draw diaper content. Unlike your story, people can see that nothing sexual is happening.”
Mm. Yes. Perhaps you are right. Perhaps the admins were right to ban me. Perhaps the fault was mine entirely. But if this story was such a huge problem then…why did it take so long for the admins to do anything about it? This story was finished back in 2010. It was literally a decade ago. This story was not recent at all. But apparently someone read the story, was uncomfortable with it, reported it, and then the admins immediately suspended me, took down the story, and threw up an excuse to pulling the story.
”Jake, why are you even complaining about this in a journal? This isn’t our fault; shouldn’t you be taking this to the admins?”
Oh, I did. I sent them an email. I tried to get my suspension removed through an appeal. The first time I sent an email, they replied in about thirty-six hours telling me they couldn’t verify my account because I used the wrong email. Which to be fair, that was entirely my fault. So I resent the email under a different account. I sent the new email Wednesday morning.
It is currently Sunday.
They have not said a word to me since then.
”Tcyk89, it was only a week. The admins banned you for submitting content that was very divisive and made some users uncomfortable. There’s nothing wrong with what the admins did.”
Mm, yes. This is true. Maybe the suspension was warranted. Perhaps you are right. Explain to me then why
NoteYote was suspended for using the word “cub” in a story. Before anyone says anything, his story had no underage characters and involved adult orcs engaged in sexual content. However the word “cub” was used as a nickname for someone, so he got suspended. His story got taken down. You can actually read more about it right here.“Okay, so maybe the admins made a mistake. Maybe they rightfully suspended your account.”
Mm, yes. Now then, I’m going to show you an image:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/13649279/
This image depicts Jake Long, the main character from American Dragon Jake Long. This image shows the character revealing his penis. This image is rated “Adult.”
“Okay. So what’s the problem?”
Jake Long is thirteen. In Season 2 of the show, he’s fourteen. Jake Long is a teenager. According to the AUP, minors are prohibited. The rules state:
“Submissions involving sexual situations cannot contain characters under 18 or adolescent animals. Minors cannot be around nudity or unless it’s a non-sexual depiction of birth or breastfeeding. Minors cannot have or be around detailed outlines of genitalia or hyper genitalia.”
I’m gonna show a list of images now:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34456807/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/27608246/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/20486467/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8266233/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15459290/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29929103/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8319329/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/8188417/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/504092/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/31575676/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29967660/
All these images depict a character who is, in canon, stated to be a teenager in high school. None of these images make it clear that Jake Long is an adult. More importantly, if Jake Long was an adult, then why are there certain images on this website specifying that he turned 18, or that he’s an adult?
“He’s in dragon form in most of these images. They age in dragon form; that doesn’t count.”
Mm. Yes. Perhaps you’re right. Take a gander at these two images—both depicting Jake in dragon form.
This one specifies that all the characters are over 18.
This one does not.
So my question here is this: if Jake Long is 18 when he turns into a dragon, then why is the artist specifying he’s 18 when he shouldn’t have to? If Jake Long is not 18, then why is the second image still on FA along with the first one? Seems contradictory to me.
I mean…heh. Based on the logic of the rules that got me banned, I could flag every single image of Jake Long on FA that do not specify that he is 18. And according to the rules, every single one of these images should be taken down, and every single artist who drew this minor engaged in blatantly obvious sexual activity should be suspended. Yes. This includes
Narse and 
JustMeGabeNewell, and I thoroughly love their art. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut they broke the rules. So I guess they gotta be suspended, right?”Jake, it’s porn for fuck’s sake! Why the fuck do you care?!”
I don’t care. If you find Jake Long sexy in his dragon form, fine. But he’s thirteen or fourteen years old. This is canon to the TV series. This is a fact. Nothing you say or do will get around that fact. And nothing the admins say or do will get around the fact that this website has thousands of images of him on it, despite it being prohibited.
Now lemme fill y’all in on something secret. I uploaded a story on my other account called Tails of Fame. In chapter 16, the main character broke into a family’s house, raped and murdered everyone inside, and had it all videotaped so he could sell the footage making snuff films. One character was a teenager. One was the teenager’s younger brother. Thing is, nothing was explicit. The actual rapes and murders? It all happened off-screen. We see the aftermath, but none of it actually happened gratuitously. This doesn’t change the fact that a teenager and another minor were raped.
No one said a thing.
In chapter 12, another main character commits a terrorist attack in an amusement park. He and his cohorts mowed down hundreds of innocent people. This includes children. Unlike the aforementioned rapes? This was shown. This was fully-detailed, fully written out. It’s made very clear that children were murdered. Onscreen.
No one said a thing.
Y’all wanna know how long Tails of Fame was on FA before I deleted it?
SEVEN MONTHS.
Yeah. …Yeah.
This whole situation, and the admins’ lack of really communicating anything to me during the suspension, and the fact that it’s so easy to get suspended here has seriously sullied my viewpoints of this website. Before anyone panics, no. I’m not leaving. But as of right now?
I HAVE ONE STRIKE LEFT.
If someone flags one of my stories for whatever reason, that’s it. I’m permanently banned. And I won’t be able to do anything about it. So in case that happens and you wanna contact me, I would highly implore that you jot down my contact information. Jot down my Twitter account. Jot down my SoFurry account—which I plan on blowing the dust off of soon enough after the shit that happened here. Jot down my Telegram, my Skype, and my Discord names. Because I could be banned as early as tomorrow for all I know.
I have deleted the “How to Raise Your Dragon” stories. I have deleted Tails of Fame. I still have both stories on my hard drive—along with “Diaper Trashed”—so if someone wants to read them, let me know. I will not be deleting any other stories from my gallery. I do not have time to look through them all. If the admins ban me for a story I wrote five or seven years ago, oh well. If they ban me for writing the commission that has many adults regressing so they have the minds of children, even though they are still clearly adults, oh well. If they ban me for making a story with dwarf alligators in diapers who pretend to be plushies, even though it is explicitly stated multiple times that they are adults who are dwarves, oh well.
I think the worst part about all this is that I reopened commissions because a lot of people were asking about them and were excited about them. And honestly I actually wanted to reopen them. I haven’t done anything on this account in several months and then when I finally do something, boom. This happens. And I’m at the point right now where if I get banned from this site, that’s just fine. That just gives me more of a reason to spend my free time writing stories that aren’t porn or fetish-based. That gives me more time to write these grandiose stories that are full of world building and interesting characters and gritty action and plot-driven narratives on top of sneaking in smelly, chubby, flatulent characters for my own personal pleasures.
…Maybe it’s a sign or some shit. Maybe it’s time to just move on to better and greater things. I dunno.
So.
It is past midnight.
I am very tired.
My head is hurting.
I am going to go to bed.
And hopefully when I wake up, I will still be able to log into my account.
i do feel there's been a kind of unspoken bias depending on the shear popularity of an artist, or other unsaid relationships that exist.
It's not so much about stacking the cards against someone, but about selective enforcement. There's an uncomfortable amount of leeway that exists in these decisions.
I've seen you here for years, and i've felt a similar kind of... pressure. As if there's a subtle clean up of content that happens from time to time.
While they try to make the rules easy to understand, I often feel like there still are case-to-case situations where I'd probably ask somebody from the staff to check things simply because anything nowadays can be somebody elses fetish and for somebody who just likes certain things from seeing them as an amusing situation right out of a cartoon (like inflation, flattening, melting, tickling, etc.) it would be frustrating to get affected by something unexplained in the rules.
Fucking leave. This whole site's administration is horrendous and bigoted and hypocritical.
I'd suggest Dreamwidth, as you could write anything without issue there. But it's not got the kind of community FA does, and other furry sites are either stricter or also lacking at current. SubscribeStar too, if you were into that sort of thing.
Best of luck to you, I've been a fan of your work for years and don't at all mind finding you elsewhere.
They tend to go hard on things reflexively, and err on the side of caution a lot, to protect the site. That leads to a lot of messy situations like this one.
Putting up a call out journal won't help the crappy situation, it'll just give them ammunition to ban you, and nobody here wants that.