Oh shit here we go again...
5 years ago
... And here again, some hypersensitive cunt from the first world blocked me because they didn’t like the contents of my page.
It starts to piss of me so damn, so I suppose I’ll have to state my position here (which I don’t have to do, in general, actually) so that no one needs to study the comments in the gallery.
I am what you hypocritical sjw-bastards can call a non-binary transgender.
Not just a fetish or a desire to distort the FTM idea.
This is a fucking sense of self.
"I considered myself as a" - How do you like to express yourself.
Mental state. Physical gender dysphoria.
Simply put, I am a person who hates the whole thought of having a penis.
... But I'm not a transgender woman, damn it! Stop hanging your labels on me, you bastards with a limited view of the world.
So why, when someone in the male body tells others that in fact he is she... A woman locked in a male body - she does receive recognition, help, well-deserved respect and her portion of sympathy?
... But if has only to say to this whole sympathetic crowd:
- I am also a transgender! But, not a woman. The male. I'm just a guy ... with a vagina... - And all at once lose their heads!!!
"Sick bastard! Pervert! Damned fetishist!"- all the same people shout that applauded the coming-out of trans women and trans men!
What?! Why?
Why am I worse than the rest?
By the fact that my transness does not fit into your primitive outdated binary systems?
Because they consider me a fetishist? And they think that fetishes are bad?
Because I'm spoiling the perfect radiant look of a typical trans guy?
What the hell?!
Why, in the end, should a fetish be something shameful and hidden? Any fetish? Especially this one?
ALL this "fetish"art with d-girls and c-boys has done more for public recognition of trans-people than all your parades, promotions and hashtags.
Fetish? Huh!
Why are there only cuntboys in my gallery?
Because, in this way, I can somehow touch my unattainable dream, you stupid cocksuckers!
My gender dysphoria is real!
So why don’t I post transgender males?
Because I'm not one of them! Extremely different experience! Extremely different sense of oneself!
Do not hang your labels and expectations on me! Do not fit me under your black and white picture of the world!
Nothing personal guys, but damn it, I'm tired of your monopoly on male vaginas.
... For God's sake, it’s already hard for me to wake up every day with a boner ... feel this damn piece of meat in my pants ... feel the very disgusting superfluity of this!
It’s hard even without your annoying insulting SJW's noize in my ears - When my attitude and sense of self are ridiculed and considered as non-existent... By people who, sorta, must fight for the rights of transgender people.
And don't to humiliate them like school bullies!
... And you know what?
I bear the name "cuntboy" as a sign of pride and dignity. Now I refuse to change this to "intersex" or "andromorph" in principle.
Nicknames (and even slurs) aren't offensive if they're the ones you've decided for yourself, and words offend only those who decide to be insulted.
So - I'm a cuntboy.
A cuntboy!
Cis-male who wanted to be a intersex-male or even a trans-male.
CUNT-FUCKING-BOY
Deal with it.
It starts to piss of me so damn, so I suppose I’ll have to state my position here (which I don’t have to do, in general, actually) so that no one needs to study the comments in the gallery.
I am what you hypocritical sjw-bastards can call a non-binary transgender.
Not just a fetish or a desire to distort the FTM idea.
This is a fucking sense of self.
"I considered myself as a" - How do you like to express yourself.
Mental state. Physical gender dysphoria.
Simply put, I am a person who hates the whole thought of having a penis.
... But I'm not a transgender woman, damn it! Stop hanging your labels on me, you bastards with a limited view of the world.
So why, when someone in the male body tells others that in fact he is she... A woman locked in a male body - she does receive recognition, help, well-deserved respect and her portion of sympathy?
... But if has only to say to this whole sympathetic crowd:
- I am also a transgender! But, not a woman. The male. I'm just a guy ... with a vagina... - And all at once lose their heads!!!
"Sick bastard! Pervert! Damned fetishist!"- all the same people shout that applauded the coming-out of trans women and trans men!
What?! Why?
Why am I worse than the rest?
By the fact that my transness does not fit into your primitive outdated binary systems?
Because they consider me a fetishist? And they think that fetishes are bad?
Because I'm spoiling the perfect radiant look of a typical trans guy?
What the hell?!
Why, in the end, should a fetish be something shameful and hidden? Any fetish? Especially this one?
ALL this "fetish"art with d-girls and c-boys has done more for public recognition of trans-people than all your parades, promotions and hashtags.
Fetish? Huh!
Why are there only cuntboys in my gallery?
Because, in this way, I can somehow touch my unattainable dream, you stupid cocksuckers!
My gender dysphoria is real!
So why don’t I post transgender males?
Because I'm not one of them! Extremely different experience! Extremely different sense of oneself!
Do not hang your labels and expectations on me! Do not fit me under your black and white picture of the world!
Nothing personal guys, but damn it, I'm tired of your monopoly on male vaginas.
... For God's sake, it’s already hard for me to wake up every day with a boner ... feel this damn piece of meat in my pants ... feel the very disgusting superfluity of this!
It’s hard even without your annoying insulting SJW's noize in my ears - When my attitude and sense of self are ridiculed and considered as non-existent... By people who, sorta, must fight for the rights of transgender people.
And don't to humiliate them like school bullies!
... And you know what?
I bear the name "cuntboy" as a sign of pride and dignity. Now I refuse to change this to "intersex" or "andromorph" in principle.
Nicknames (and even slurs) aren't offensive if they're the ones you've decided for yourself, and words offend only those who decide to be insulted.
So - I'm a cuntboy.
A cuntboy!
Cis-male who wanted to be a intersex-male or even a trans-male.
CUNT-FUCKING-BOY
Deal with it.
Speaking in fact, I'm just terribly tired of the hypocrisy of a Western fandom in this matter.
Becomes less and people like me too. Very many bend under the SJW.
And you're entirely right about whether or not cuntboy is a slur. It's not. In the same way that 'queer' is not. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; anyone remember when 'queer' was a bad word? When that was a slur against homosexual people? And yet now they're proud of it.
To all the SJWs out there; Get the FUCK over yourselves.
To Volsung; it's a damn shame you have to put up with this crap from people, and I'm sorry to hear it's happening. :c
Just because people like us also need their own "place in the sun" - at least our own naming convention.
... But this hypocritical forced move of the e621 administration (you are a porn site, for fuck's sake!) sharply fight off my desire to use this word at all.
If I were a binary trans person, I'd have the entire fandom behind me in support of getting the right tag. It's just cos of a few mouthy SJWs that they felt the need to remove the tag for a gender. Imagine if they removed 'male' next because someone felt uncomfortable around men. I mean, seriously, how dumb can they even be. XD
Also, I swear I've seen a few e6 admins say this, but they call the site an 'art site' or 'art repository', not a porn site. Maybe that's got something to do with the transphobic attitude towards cuntboys? (and yes, I call it transphobic. If not because it kind of is, but just to try and annoy the SJWs who coined the term and hate us anyway. XD )
"Keep telling yourself that, darlin" ©
Good riddance, in that case.
I've been barred from getting help and support from fellow LGBT people because of the way I choose to identify. So instead of getting help, or just talking about problems I'm shunned away and told I don't belong.
Особенно иронично, когда таковые тщетно пытаются "нагибать" вот как здесь, личностей с особым, эээ, половым или расовым мировоззрением (например меня всегда удивляло как те же BLM-щики истерят от концепции траснрассовости[/i, т.е. желания иметь иной фенотип); двоемыслие как оно есть.
...А впрочем с этими недоумками аргументировать любой спор бесполезно.
Зверьё понимает [i]исключительно язык силы.
Эти ребята просто хотят перераспределить роли громовержцев и быков.
P.S. Хотя не могу не отметить, что вы запнулись на моменте мировоззрения, кек) Но ничего страшного. Хотя бы честно)
А что до честности - так я вообще не стесняюсь.
У меня чувства Guilt-а нет ка такового, чтобы меня Guilt trip-ить : D
I've recently come out as trans (ftm) so my experience is limited in that I have not fully transitioned yet so everyone else who might read this just know that, my positions on issues have and will continue to change based on new ideas I feel right aligning myself to.
As it stands right now, I've heard discourse on both sides of the "cuntboy" argument - I personally don't use it to label myself but I've seen other FtM dudes use it so right there you have evidence of how the word itself isn't the actual issue, it's about what it represents culturally for different people. Most of the people I have personally seen who arn't FtM have used it as a way to fetishise trans male bodies and as a way to distance the body set up away from anything female/feminine (since the character did not go through top surgery/hormones/etc. and just simply has a vagina) and into something they find more "approachable" or "appealing" - in essence it's a form of misogyny in itself- this character is male but I like to fuck that pussy and breed them and all that type of stuff - it has nothing to do with the trans experience and everything to do with their own selfish sexual gratification. We've all seen that porn, it's 100% what they're doing. And even worse is when they refer to all trans guys as "cuntboys" and purely look at that body configuration as sexually appealing, completely ignoring that there's a real life person there, not just a set of parts.
Now, with that being said - I actually do understand what you're talking about - my parts don't match what, in my head, they should be. If I woke up tomorrow with a dick I would be such a happy man believe me lol but I also do not have much bottom dysphoria surrounding the parts that I do have (as in just really hating it, not being able to be sexual with it, self harm, etc. etc.) but I know there are plenty of guys who sadly do and that has to really suck, it's hard to feel good sexually if you don't have the parts you should have so in that way I get it.
I think for a lot of people it's hard to look outside of their own experience, if they've encountered way more of those really bad things associated with a label, then it may be really loaded for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with using it in a way that's not harming someone, such as a label for ones own self as a way to express your flavor of trans basically.
That's not hurting anyone, and it serves it's purpose for you. (Not that you need my approval, I'm just putting the thoughts out there)
As far as I'm concerned, what you've described is body dysphoria just like any of us have experienced and that's something real, it's something that you are dealing with in a way that hopefully helps to lessen that for you at least somewhat and to me there's nothing wrong with that. I think what it comes down to is wording, of course a lot of people will just completely dismiss you and call you a fetishist but reading through this journal I don't believe that's the case.
Also in all honesty I don't really find it that distasteful when people find trans bodies attractive (in that it's the only bodies they like or it's a really strong attraction - basically what people would call "fetishy") because isn't that pretty much what we all do if we're sexual people? we like certain looks & certain parts (maybe all the parts in some cases lol) it's no different than someone exclusively liking any other type of body - I think the problem people have is when someone can't separate the fetish from the real life person and it tends to make people really reactive when they suspect someone has a fetish for their body configuration and they are afraid the person won't treat them as a person but rather as just a sexual object to be had and discarded.
I don't think it's fair that everyone with a fetish like that be labeled bad/wrong, I think we should judge based on the individual person's actions and not just the thing itself. If someone treats someone badly they're just simply an asshole and nothing else surrounding that matters, it doesn't matter what they like if they're just being a bad person towards someone else and the same goes for not judging someone who's just enjoying something but is respectful to people and knows the boundaries between fetish and real life.
TLDR: I'm a trans dude and I think you're fine, just be you :)
Isn’t this what they sought - so that girls with members and boys with vaginas should be on a par with... Venus Milos or Diskobol? Why, from one extreme, does everyone need to fall into another?
Like ... "Now, trans-bodies are also considered beautiful ... but you can’t say that it’s beautiful."
It already resembles medieval Puritanism.
C'mon... I see that often, the position: “You don’t see the personality behind the pussy” is just an excuse to shame those you don’t like.
In this case, all straight, gays, bisexuals, and especially aromantics, should be considered by the LGBTQ+ community as "fetishists who do not take into account the personality, but only the genitals."
Personality and sexuality are not two opposite sides of a coin.
This is inextricably a whole.
That's what pisses me off, man.
This radical part of the trans community not only deny my identity.
They wants a counter-sexual revolution.
This is the worst part.
Partially I know it comes from a cultural belief here that is puritanical in nature - People are still not ok with a lot of sexual stuff, many things are very taboo to a lot of people and just because we're a part of the LGBTQ+ community doesn't mean that we're immune to it and it comes out in some really weird ways I feel. One of those ways is that for a really long time the only mention of trans people was either "they're going to hell" etc. from the religious side, or "Tranny Girls/Tranny cocks" etc. (sorry if the use of that word upsets anyone reading this but we've got to talk about that history sometimes) in porn where they were HEAVILY fetishised to the point that that was the only way people saw trans women (trans men historically have hardly ever had a place much of anywhere, porn with them is extremely niche whereas trans women have one of the most common porn tags associated with them) they didn't think of them as real, and when people don't see someone as a human being, it tends to make people more ok with things like assault/beatings/rape/murder so there's a lot of really deep deep horrible feelings surrounding trans people even being able to be sexual at all with the parts they have - if a trans woman uses her original parts sexually she's labeled a tranny, dickgirl, etc. and isn't seen as just a woman being sexual who happens to have certain parts. It's very dehumanizing and when that's what's in the majority subconscious I think it makes a lot of trans people very upset to be fetishised because "what if this person wouldn't see me as an actual person if they met me in real life, what if they would assault/beat/rape/murder me " type of thing - it's very scary to think about if you're familiar with the history. Hence why a lot of trans people don't want their parts to be front and center and/or used in a label such as "cuntboy" or "dickgirl", it can also be seen as very othering - a lot of trans people just want to be labeled a Man or a Woman, and those labels have nothing to do with what parts they have.
Ultimately I think there needs to be more of a mutual understanding that not everyone is coming at things the same way, but it's something that will take time and isn't going to happen overnight.
That's all.
Such is the power of things, as Pushkin said.
First, you draw your characters naked. In the most depraved poses. You focusing on the genitals. Directionally. Intentionally.
... And then you start screaming: "I am a person, not just a set of genitals! Do not dare to perceive me as an object of sexual attractiveness!"
Holy shit.
That is, you drew and made publicly available, for example, a drawing of a... naked trans-guy in a BDSM harness - and seriously expect everyone to write to you: "What a nice person. And certainly not a sexual object!"?
... And how, for fuck's sake, should people perceive you as a person, if your art does not give any progress in this direction?
... What do you expect?
That people, seeing, say a trans-sheep-girl without clothes and in a seductive pose, will say:
"Oh, what a deep character. This sheep loves shopping, listening to Chopin and reading Schopenhauer." ?
How should the public guess about all this if art gives them only boobs and genitals?
... Have you ever tried creating collages? Or use the language of metaphors and allegories in art?
To reveal the spiritual, inner side of the character, which, according to your words, is what you want!
Everything bad with your imagination?
Well, I’ll tell you something.
Draw your character along with a clay jug in which a jerboa in clothes from the islands of Kiribati sits.
Let everybody puzzle what the hell is this means.
This is what I will tell you, people.
By drawing and laying out naked trans people in open access, you literally sign a license agreement that anyone can comment on your drawings: "Nice girl-dick/t-dick."
Because (I’ll tell you a terrible secret now) ALL people perceive each other as sexual objects. At least appreciating at first glance.
And this is not only your problem!
Starting from antiquity and ending with our time, the culture of mankind is replete with examples of how the hero of a book, song, film, performance, and so on - suffers from the fact that he is perceived solely as a “cash cow”.
Characters suffer from the fact that everyone needs only their beauty / wealth / power, and they are not interested in anyone as individuals.
... And if you understood this harsh truth only now - it is only your problems, pumpkins.
And the truth, perhaps, is this:
Like any community, LGBT people now go through one of the stages of growing up.
They realized their weight in society and began a "teenage riot against all." "You cannot say that trans bodies are ugly, you intolerant pig ... But you also cannot say that trans bodies are beautiful, you intolerant pig!" - This is exactly what I'm talking about.
This is a riot of a community of people who themselves do not know what they really want. And therefore - they respond to any signal from the outside world, as an aggressive stimulus.
This is where the seemingly unmotivated aggression comes from.
I believe it all stems from isolating belief systems in these metaphorical "echo-chambers" where an individuals ideas are only reflected by the most immediate voices inside the echo-chamber, being other people in the proximity of the same sub-culture. I think is partially a result of social media forums and the creation of interest groups where individuals only see and hear what is most relevant to themselves, which leaves out the opportunity to be influenced by an opposing idea or stance.
essentially the majority of this cultural standard is a matter of faulty social skills. At least this is my objective point of view. (and yes, I believe this cuts both ways, bigotry is achieved in the exact same manner.)
The echo-chamber effect is one of the types of cognitive-social distortions that I talked about.
As well as communal reinforcement.
The "echo chamber" creates patterns of thinking, and "reinforcement" moulding them into Krupp steel.
While those who disagree, seeing all this... Saturnaly of intolerance, just say "screw all this".
Due to Schweigespirale.
For a lot of people this cant be helped. I don't judge. I've encountered it plenty in my human life in reality, from various types for various reasons both personally and professionally. If all attempts of rational discussion fail to work this kind of conflict out (which, lets be honest, almost always fails due to two-dimensional mentality) I simply chose to walk away. Its not worth my time at this point.
I do not know what to do in this situation. To laugh or to cry.
This might all just be doctors in my area, though. I'd have no way of knowing, besides testimony of other women and ftm trans folk, if it was worldwide, nationwide, or just local. I'm pretty sure It's a common issue, though.
In my case, the request to create a vagina for me, without hormonal transition into a woman, will at best be perceived as a joke.
There's some difference, but It's absolutely the same in nature. Going to a doctor and asking for bottom surgery without other forms of transition would be seen as absurd, as more of a punchline than something to address at all. I suppose the only major difference in the two situations besides that is that cis men don't tend to go to their doctors asking to get their genitals removed, but that still isn't perfectly analogous to getting a uterus removed either . . .
Regardless, I think shit is really rough for nonbinary trans people, especially those with genital dysphoria like you. The best thing we can do really is advocate for the visibility, acceptance, and research of nonbinary identities. You may find yourself able to find treatment (by which I mean mtf-esque bottom surgery if I'm understanding you correctly) before the end of your lifetime if things head in a good direction.
And did not pay absolutely deserved attention to the “proselyte” of sjw.
Artists, commissioners, and often ordinary users. I will not name names here...
... Just yesterday they called their characters, oh holy saints!, with words on the letters “C” and “D”... and now, they have disowned their beliefs. Suddenly, all of their “D” and “C” comrades became in their eyes fetishists and intolerant pigs ...
... For a while it surprised me ... and then I remembered a story from the recent past of my filthy country.
During the late "Khrushchev thaw" in the Soviet Union, there were two semi-legitimate publishing houses, the so-called "samizdat".
Both publishers published satire, anecdotes, and original articles on topical issues.
... But oops, suddenly, the Khrushchev thaw ends. The era of Brezhnev stagnation begins.
Censorship reiterated its rights.
The management of the first publisher gritted its teeth in silence, consulted with lawyers, and continued to do their job.
... And the management of the second publisher shit their pants from fear.
At first, they stated that they would check the documents with everyone who was going to buy their newspapers, or bought earlier, before giving people what they bought.
Then, smelling the feces coming from their own pants and feeling quite logical discomfort, they decided that now it would be fair - to that everyone else will shit their pants.
So they began to write to their competitors - the first publishing house - threats to convey them in the KGB.
Pretending to be lawyers. To be cops.
Why am I even talking about this? Because we can learn a certain lesson from this.
Why do sjw sidekicks turn on their side, at all?
Why are they behaving so aggressively looking for "sedition" in the fandom?
Why... why, in general, are they snitching on their former comrades?!
Well... Usually, snitches are snitching out of fear, or out of fanaticism, or out of full mercantile motives.
... But very often this is not the point.
Very often, snitchers are snitching due to the fact that the feeling of their own nullity is unbearable to them.
Sensation of shitting in their pants, figuratively speaking.
But, of course, to direct this anger at those who deject and oppress them, they are hindered by the same cowardice with which they "went to be captured, raising their hands above their heads."
So they redirect their anger to those - who once again emphasize their insignificance.
Who showing that in exactly the same circumstances It's possible - to behave quite differently from the way they do.
The reality is that we are all real people, with feelings, and that some people will enjoy things that make you uncomfortable. If we are to build a better world we cannot lose sight of such facts.
Thanks for your reply.
People want to get specific about post-binary gender roles or the dissociation of gender from sex? Fuck yeah, I'm all for it. But because this world does not readily use or accept that disassociation and disconnection from the binary, people have to be willing to move beyond the comfort of everyone readily identifying what they are just at a glance.
But yeah. You throw around "Nonbinary" and people tend to back off from trying to put you into a box. And if they try to SJW you into a classification so they can be your social savior, you ask them, as condescendingly as you can, "Do I *need* to fit into one of your boxes?"
This term simply says that you do not fit into the standard dual gender model. And that’s it.
Too wide field for interpretation.
I like it better:
Cis: Males and Females
Transgender: Males and Females
Intersex: Males and Females
Altersex: Cuntboys and Dickgirls
The problem of misgendering.
Let's simulate a situation ...
... Suppose a ftm transgender posted a picture of his character in his gallery.
Attractive guy with a vagina.
Suppose someone who appeared in his gallery called the character "she."
Here it is - the problem of misgendering.
The owner of the character was indignant, saying that he was offended when his sona (and himself) was called "she."
I will stress this again.
The owner was offended when his guy was called a female pronoun.
But here's the riddle for you:
Was he offended by the misuse of pronouns?...
... Or the pronoun "she" itself?
It is no exaggeration to say that the absurdity of the second option is already visible to us now.
… However, the great irony lies in the fact that the social justice warriors and their followers choose this very absurd option when it comes to people like me.
As if ... the words "female" and "she" should be removed from the dictionary, only because they offend trans men, if applied to them.
Like the words "male" and "he" for trans women.
This is ridiculous! Just like stupid joke!
But they take it seriously when it comes to the "С" word...
However, the only problem is in mis-gendering.
And that’s it.
I'm don't misgendering anyone.
Males are males.
Trans-males are trans-males.
Intersex males are intersex males.
Cuntboys are cuntboys.
Where is the fucking mystery?
Anyway, thanks for the comment.
I am considering if I am a cuntboy or not. We are a very small community here in Hungary, recently transition was legally banned, so it makes sense to all of us to stand under the big umbrella of Transgender, so that we have bigger numbers and support each other. I feel closer to non-binary people but have many masculine traits... would like to have medical transition to some degree, have certain types of dysphoria, but I am hesitant to call myself a trans man.
I have more questions than answers. All I can say I appreciate your art and I am (even if I am still a bit shy to say so) very happy to see bodies like mine as desirable, as a body of a confident, happy, sexual character! (but now I am worried I said something stupid)
Well said.
There's one solution if you hate having a dick. In my language it's called Gen'nuq'Moh (Gender Reassignment Protocol). Unfortunately they're ridiculously expensive. (Cost unknown)
Just a tip.
I consider myself a herm. A term which has also come under fire in recent years, because a select few have considered it a slur, or offensive - hence the push for terms like gynomorph, or andromorph. But I am not a gynomorph. I reject the feminine bias that implies. I'm not an andromorph, for the same reason. Non-binary, while technically applicable, applies to a much broader range of experiences, and I am not a they or a them - I do not reject either gender, I embrace both. I dislike the term intersex, not in general usage, but in reference to myself. It doesn't describe what I would want to be - it is clinical, cold, and implies all the realities of a dual-gendered condition that haunt me.
So I chose the term 'herm' for myself. Hermaphrodite - the mythical ideal, neither male nor female, a union of both. Not fully masculine or feminine, but androgynous, possessing features of both. I've tried to explain it so many times, and it seems so simple to me, but it's been staggering the number of people who can't, or won't accept it, or insist that by using the term for myself, I am somehow harming others. In that way, it is ridiculous, and I share your pain - and I wish there were more people who pointed out this hypocrisy, and refused to conform to a status quo that only a select few seem to have agreed upon.
I deal with dysphoria at times feeling in a similar way; not so much a female in a male body, but not feeling like I have the right genital set. I consider myself to be non-binary and somewhat androgynous (though not in appearance unless I put work into it), though I if ever did go through with GRS, I would refer to myself as a cuntboy/man (or andromorph if those around me don't like it). It's something for me and ONLY me and my next fursona design is going to reflect that with two forms, male and cuntboy.
I wouldn't call anyone else that unless that's how they wanted me to address them or gave permission to refer to them as such.