H!! Explain to me the reason why you're not on twitter
5 years ago
I'm all ears y'all 🙌
I don't want to fight anyone i'm just, genuinely curious and want to hear opinions.
EDIT: (5h later)
g osh, i definitely wasn't expecting this much feedback 💦 but honestly I've read all of you guys and I agree with almost everything.
In my personal opinion Twitter is kind of shitty and I mostly only stay there because everyone is there, and because it's comfortable to just stay somewhere because of that """Change=Bad""" noise.
It sucks a lot for serious artists because there's no gallery or anything, and you really gotta build up a strong shield to protect yourself from all the bullshit and the drama that constantly goes around (and that one might rather not really be aware of; I swear to god every two weeks a famous twitter gets revealed to be a groomer or something). I follow over 5000 twitter accounts and it's crazy how never ending my timeline is. I really need to work out on following less people, I want to show appreciation to everyone but i'm starting to realize it's overwhelming and maybe I need to rethink if i really want to see new art at every second.
As a content creator, I suppose twitter only feels okay to me because i'm at a point where I don't know if I can take art seriously anymore, and posting doodles is quick and easy on twitter, compared to other platforms. And twitter is different from discord because you can just throw stuff there and not worry about real-time social interactions.
Thank y'all for the opinions really. It says a lot that the hate towards twitter is universal, regardless of wanting to use it or not.
I don't want to fight anyone i'm just, genuinely curious and want to hear opinions.
EDIT: (5h later)
g osh, i definitely wasn't expecting this much feedback 💦 but honestly I've read all of you guys and I agree with almost everything.
In my personal opinion Twitter is kind of shitty and I mostly only stay there because everyone is there, and because it's comfortable to just stay somewhere because of that """Change=Bad""" noise.
It sucks a lot for serious artists because there's no gallery or anything, and you really gotta build up a strong shield to protect yourself from all the bullshit and the drama that constantly goes around (and that one might rather not really be aware of; I swear to god every two weeks a famous twitter gets revealed to be a groomer or something). I follow over 5000 twitter accounts and it's crazy how never ending my timeline is. I really need to work out on following less people, I want to show appreciation to everyone but i'm starting to realize it's overwhelming and maybe I need to rethink if i really want to see new art at every second.
As a content creator, I suppose twitter only feels okay to me because i'm at a point where I don't know if I can take art seriously anymore, and posting doodles is quick and easy on twitter, compared to other platforms. And twitter is different from discord because you can just throw stuff there and not worry about real-time social interactions.
Thank y'all for the opinions really. It says a lot that the hate towards twitter is universal, regardless of wanting to use it or not.
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Finally, somebody else who calls it Twatter!
And if you don't agree with %100 of those politics? Then you are a racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, clascist, fascist, ageist, sexist, pedo trash human who deserves to have your life ruined if not ended outright.
Twitter is garbage. A massive contributor to the death of discourse, context, healthy debate, and nuance.
Having political/emotional views burying porn really ruins the focus of everything. Plus the risk of the twitter gangs finding out and slandering knee-jerk reactions of you all over the site is a big risk.
"Had a good day because X"
"Person just got me Y, SO GOOD"
"Check this thing it, it makes me so sad"
"I'M INFURIATED *Link to video*"
"I'm struggling rn, could really use some help *Link to donation page*"
"Need boba..."
No thanks...In a person to person interaction, it's reasonable, but just constantly going whenever someone feels like saying something, and then multiplying that by however many people you follow, no.
The little lurking I do see around is an actual hellhole.
The straw breaking the camel's back was this one dink's ultimate comment to win a argument about politics was, to judge me as a person based on my popularity. I never took twitter seriously so I only had 15 followers over seven years, but I was happy with that as I had other things going on with life both on and off the net. Only the person saw that was a pathetic "basement dwelling" loser way of life, as I had to devote all of my attention, energy and life to twitter 24/7.
That, and it's surprisingly easy for people to accuse you of things, just because of what you post, and have no qualms blocking you for the slightest disagreement or lapse in judgment. These reasons are why I'm still there, but I almost never tweet anything besides the latest artwork I've made.
Twitter has also become just a burning pile of trash with the amount of annoying people on there that will send hate your way whenever you disagree.
So Crappy design
Crappy navigation
Crappy Media acquisition
Crappy organization
Hostile Environment
Twitter was designed as a simple message board " Hey Y'all I just hit the gym " and that's it ... I honestly don't know WHY so many artists on FA decided that it was going to be their new primary place of business and posting art ... when it's literally designed for you to post something that'll be forgotten about in a few days because of all the random crap that gets piled on it
scrollfeeds are not art galleries. they are meant to share shitty memes and that's basically it. And with art twitter, half of those shitty memes are 'man art is hard' and 'please validate the existance of my fursona'
2. I don't like when twitter floods the feed with messages from people I don't know and don't care about.
3. It has no functions for art content. No gallery where I can freely browse all creations of an artist, nothing else. To watch older posts I just have to scroll down for hours.
....but I don't look at art on Twitter because it is not a freakin' art place.
I honestly don't want to leave myself exposed to people who will never have my interests at heart, no matter what my feelings on any subject matter.
Try to avoid lose/lose situations.
And probably more notable is my and more importantly my wife's social safety, more or less. She has a few interests the sjw twitterites don't take too kindly to, and she would probably be "cancelled" in a minute if she got so much as a modicum of attention there.
Tl;dr I don't got the time and mental health for all that nonsense, lol
1) Twitter's format for all forms of media it hosts (text, pictures, and video) is very limiting. The fact that you can't choose the preview for your photo content is offensive to me, and is harmful to creators -- presentation is everything. Video formatting is also very confusing on Twitter.
2) Algorithmic content distribution creates a significant disadvantage to creators who don't already have a following. Twitter's algorithms effectively silence those who don't already have popularity of some kind.
I've recently left Twitter because of its limitations, and for how inauthentic social interactions are on it. It's designed as a popularity contest. I prefer sites like FA, where I have the option to browse the newest content without algorithmic discrimination against less popular creators.
Also the twitter user base is way more obnoxious ever since the tumblr porn ban caused a mass migration.
I despise the systems and algorithms of the platform, they cultivate a toxic non contructive competitive enviroment. Don't take me wrong Patrix, I like competition, but not this kind, it just causes frustration and discouragement. There's a lot I can write on what is wrong with Twitter but just for a simple example: People than post once in a blue moon gets the short end of the stick. The algorithms punish them for not being active enough.
I'll do anything I have in my power to attract as much of my traffic I can to other places as FA or Pillowfort.
Pillowfort in the other hand is kino! Even if it is in beta.
Ironically, I'm not sure I'd even follow myself at the moment. :P
A: I'm Asocial and find it difficult to make use of social media, i don't have much to say or contribute
B: it's not that great of a art platform
C: A lot of artists i used to follow started going on heavy political rants which clogged up my feed, which is the last thing i want to see when i come home from a long day of work
Been on Twitter since 2009-ish, and it's kind of like FA here where it's like, sure would be nice to move to another site if everyone else could agree to. I don't keep up with Twitter suuuper often these days, I pop in a few times a day usually to make a tweet, and keep up with artists via RSS feed.
For me the issues I have with Twitter are the way it's run.
Facebook I THINK was the first to implement the dumb "Your timeline by default displays what we think is the most important content" setup that I've now seen come to Twitter and even Instagram, and I've yet to see a person actually defend or approve of that design choice. I can't even wrap my head around the choice - is it designed with the users in mind at all?
Granted, when I say how much I hate that feature, it's moreso the mere concept of the site implementing it that bugs me. I have used Tweetdeck for almost the entirety I've been on Twitter because the site's layout has never been appealing - Tweetdeck also displays your timeline properly with filter options, and options in general, that Twitter should have. There was some point where Twitter actually put some kind of ban on that kind of service, and I think as a result Tweetdeck went from being a .exe to just being a site, so I hope it doesn't further get destroyed.
I've also come to really dislike promoted tweets, weirdly enough because of RSS feeds. I use RSS to follow artists so I don't miss anything, which used to involve using a site that creates a feed. But Twitter thankfully updated at one point to include RSS feed capability. However, if you chose to follow a user's entire tweet feed instead of just photos, the RSS would toss in a promoted tweet several times a day.
Promoted tweets do largely consist of valid ads and causes, but because they are seemingly unfiltered, you also get people promoting their Twitch channel; People putting a megaphone to their political opinions and conspiracy theories; People promoting their selfies because they think they're hot shit; And the occasional "#newprofilepic" that consists of several replies asking why this tweet was promoted. Legit, I don't think Twitter cares about filtering who can pay to promote their tweet because it makes them more money this way.
RSS feeds have changed again since then and thankfully don't include promoted stuff, but they also took out the ability to exclusively follow photo uploads so I'm not too happy bout that.
Seems like Twitter is a nice place to promote stuff and it's where a lot of decent folks are gathered, but for sure I keep using things like Tweetdeck and RSS so that I never have to open the actual site so that probably says something about them lol
And of course, we can't just ignore the elephant in the room; the sheer vitriolic political hatred everyone has for anyone who even slightly disagrees with them.
And looking back at Twitter these days, it's just become nothing but a toxic cesspool, so I'm doing my best to avoid it at all costs.
I've read through all of you guys replies though, I agree with almost everything!!!
my feed is almost 90% of things i dont care about. when i actively try to find an artists work be prepared to scroll for minutes on end and sometimes you'll just flat out never find it, maybe the artist took down what you're looking for you'll never know.
I quickly find out some the people i follow are into some pretty gross stuff becouse the site is constantly sharing everything they like. as far as i know theres no official way to block these. i came online one time to find a bunch of real porn (which is another problem) of people shoving bottles up their ass. if someone were to stumble upon my PC i think they would think something was wrong with me XD
sometimes i like to message artists and talk to them about things, maybe ask for their permission to say draw NSFW of their OC, if they have DMs disabled then to my knowledge theres no way to to ask an embarrassing question like that without making it fully public.
twitter is like facebook. its just a popularity contest basically and not a proper art gallery for me to appreciate art on.
Lol dont even get me started on drama, and politics. just dont lol
Think I'll make one for gaming then the other for porn sketches or whatever.
if you ignore all the BS around you, you can find enjoyment in it, I guess.
As animator/artist i need to "be out there" if im to make money and feed my family.
I just avoid the drama and go about my work.