Nobody is saying it's not a viable way to protest.
What people are pointing out is that the cops were shown actually letting them in.
No body actually stopped them, and four people were killed.

Meanwhile most BLM protests ended with, many times, peaceful protests being swarmed by martial law.
I can understand actual riots being met with some force, but lets face it. There were very few actual riots,
and if there were any fatalities, it was from cop to protester.

Meanwhile ProudBoys riot, cops do nothing but help, and they kill four people.

All because the president they wanted didn't get elected.

What did BLM want? Equal Rights?

Rights they already have, then, lol. No, everything you've said there is nonsense.

I am inclined to agree with Tanookicatoon - I've seen the large proportion of people condemning the inconsistency of being anti-protest/vocal for BLM, and pro-protest/silent for this. That's the discrepency I see being picked up on mainly and being shouted about. Both situations are very contrasting in how they're being dealt with by authorities, wouldn't you agree at the very least?

Also, just to clarify, who exactly already have equal rights?

All Americans have equal rights. Well over a year of violence, with over 1 billion dollars in damages, multiple murders and intimidation/thuggery from the far left and this is "mostly peaceful", but what happened yesterday is apparently very serious terrorism. It's enough to make a cat laugh. The police at the capitol building were overwhelmed, they didn't just step aside immediately and allow people to walk in. On the other side, cities in the US have been subject to widespread violence with democrat leadership permitting it, even praising it on occasion, ordering police not to intervene. Very different scenario. You've got to have no sense of proportion whatsoever if you think yesterday is anything even slightly close to the fucking wave of left violence witnessed for months on end, practically uninterrupted. Either that or one is not paying attention to anything but lying sources.

No, not all Americans have equal rights. One side can burn, loot and murder and nothing happens, except for politicans and the media telling us 24/7 that the rioters are the victims and others are at fault.

While on the other hand peaceful protesters like Ashli Babbit are simply murdered by the police ( I have seen the video, do not try to tell me it was not cold blood murder, shooting her thru a closed glas pannel door while other uniformed cops were right by her )

Now imagine her being BLM/Antifa. DC would burn to the ground tonight.

It's important to use the word "right" correctly. Rights enshrined in law are equal, which is to say nothing of how the law is implemented. Not everything is a right, almost all laws aren't rights.

Or as I once observed about working in a JAG office: the law applies equally, it's just not equally applied.

While I disagree with both of you.

If there wasn't equal rights, how come they can walk away scot free?
These are people with mental health issues.

Agreed here. It honestly amazes me how quick they are to push this attack aside because their reasons for the attack favors their own. Not to mention the very stark difference between the two motives. Not even a fair comparison as far as motives go, imo.

BLM is just a name, nothing more.

Proud boys while you say riot, actually have black and hispanic people in their groups so yeah.
Tell us about that while Antifa and BLM beat up defenseless people?

They are nothing more than brown shirts.

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What I don't get is what was the end-game supposed to be?

From what I understand a large group of Trump supporters, in protest of the election results, forced their way into the House of Representatives.

What was supposed to happen after that?

It doesn't take a genius to figure out ahead of time that if the Capital Police cannot restore order then sooner or later the National Guard will be called in. If for some reason they fail to restore order then it would have only been a matter of time before Martial Law was declared and the Military was called in to bring a end to this.

I'm not happy with the election results any more than I'm happy with, despite the appearance of irregularities with the election, Democrats are repeatedly telling us to shut up and accept the results of what they claim was a 'fair and just' election based solely upon their word that it was without bothering to even look into any of the claims about this or that problem with the election.

That said, the people who did this yesterday had to know ahead of time how this would end. So what exactly was their end-game supposed to be?

It’s kind of funny, though, how backwards their supposed plan was for the attack. Considering their motive was to “make their voices heard” and push congress to vote in their favor, it only scared them away and pushed others to vote against their behavior. They basically destroyed any hope of Trump regaining presidency by rioting under his name. XD

You do realize that it's Antifa dressed as Trumpers right?
No real MAGA or trumper can do this.

Just another thing pushed by the liberal, far left agenda.

If I recall the people you’re referring to as “antifa” members, for one, the outspoken one in the Viking outfit is Jake Angeli, a known far-right activist who regularly participates in Trumps’ rallies. Yes he was spotted at a BLM protest, but was there to protest the protest, not as a part of the protest itself. X3

And a side note, that person with the “hammer and sickle” emblem on the back of his hand? That’s not an antifa emblem. It’s literally the “Mark of the Outsider” from Dishonored. XD

Lmao

The end goal is the democrats make Trump look criminal and then ruin the repubs and conservatives images and no one will vote for them again.

Let that sink in that it's all been the democrats fault.

Why are the Democrats still allowed to exist, given its baggage?

No other big political parties in existence.

Frankly, if I were elected, I’d declare myself emperor and dissolve all parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton

Somebody who was ahead of you.

What a load of bollocks. The far left protests/riots have been violent as hell, for months on end, with many democrat cities preventing police from stopping it. Over a year of insanity, compared to one day of little destruction, without people trying to burn shit, or kill people, yet someone is killed by police. The far left protests of antifa and blm are about revolutionary communism and the disruption of society, the destruction of capitalism. Their complaints are surface-deep and based mostly on lies. The protests yesterday were treated differently because the people there acted differently, had they become as violent as lefty bastards you'd have seen severe police responses to it.

I'm just finding it sadly hilarious how much hypocrisy in politics and the news media is now out in the open.

During the BLM and Antifa/anarchist riots where entire cities were burning... Everyone on the left was apparently a "Firey" "peaceful protestor" and we needed to "Defund and abolish the police" and "all police are bastards"... The second the right wing storms one building WITHOUT burning down an entire city or destroying businesses everyone is screaming "terrorists!" and "Riots!" and "The police need to use MORE force!!!"

Gotta love those double standards.

Also, if the election was "Fair and square" why did the left specifically fight tooth and nail to stop any and all "audits" of the votes? If it WAS fair and square they should have been 100% open to a 100% public audit. THAT is what has pissed off so many people on the right. Why all the secrecy and cover-ups? I can honestly understand why people feel cheated, especially after that video evidence of people pulling suitcases of Biden votes out from under a table after telling everyone else to leave. They were just some that got caught, who knows how many other places that could have or did happen.

I don't care what side someone is on, EVERY election should be audited publicly! There NEEDS to be voter I.D., I say just attach it to people's SSN, that way its FREE to every legal citizen. There also needs to be "Vote Confirmation" so you can look up YOUR vote to make sure it went through and for the person and laws you voted for.

AMEN! You!
You the award for truth!

THANK YOU!

this 1'000'000'000'000 times

Yeah, this definitely needs to happen!

Suitcases of Biden votes? What? How would anyone know they were even Biden votes upon pulling them out? "Hey guys, better leave because I'm getting out my big ol' magic box of Biden votes!" Really? Really? How sneaky! How subtle! How covert! Truly, the workings of a mastermind. No wonder they got away with it.

Were they the seven million votes that gave Biden the popular vote? Must've been.

Facetiousness aside, I'm all for better regulations on counting votes - that way whinging babies will have one less excuse to pull shit out of their arse when things don't go their way. That goes for both ends of the political spectrum.

As for double standards, it seems like everyone is just about the same. At every fucking opportunity, without exception, downplaying the sheer destructive foolishness of their own gang while condemning the other, with plenty of ad hominems and fake shit sprinkled inbetween.

There's actual shit going on, we don't need this.

I guess I'll be cleansing my watch list again, I'm really tired of people and their double standard agenda. Because now it's okay to call a protest a riot and for the police to use force and make arrests. I see how it works, I've known this for a long freaking time... I just wish people would open their eyes and pull their head's out of their bunghole.

Except that the BLM protests were actually very peaceful. It was MAGAts using the peaceful demonstrations as cover that looted, vandalized, etc.

Not just in 2019, not just storming the Michigan State House unlawfully, but inciting insurrection and rebellion against the US. Aided and abetted by the Capitol Police, Donald Trump, and numerous Republican Senators and Representatives at the federal AND state levels.

I suggest you go down to the local police station and turn yourself in for treason, and plead guilty in court.

Forgot to take your lithium again?

Nope. Doing quite well here, unlike Trump supporters and Enemies of Democracy, aka the GOP.

That must be why Democrats declare every election THEY don’t win to be fraudulent. They don’t care about you, just power.

Democracy... feh!
Anyone who builds a system on the masses is destined for disappointment. If you can buy a vote with trinkets, the system fails.

You spelled Republicans wrong. Well, yes, Ds sometimes (read: only one time I can confirm and even then they accepted the results and moved on).

The Republicans, however, spend months whining about fraud, produce no evidence, just conspiracy theories, and when they do not get their way, break into the US Capitol Building.

I'm pretty sure he spelled it right, I mean the democrats spent four years whining about the result of the previous election. Producing conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. I guess it's okay to do that against Republicans and Trump.

All of this could've been avoided had they just been transparent about the election and by performing a proper audit. People have very little faith in the system right now and just saying the numbers are right, believe us, we don't need to do any investigating, isn't very encouraging. It's like they want to get people riled up and angry.

If you’re a Democrat, you’re above the law.

It's clear that some people here are just cranks.

I'm tired of both political sides rn. I know there are peaceful members out there but right now its like watching children fight but less amusing

1) The fifth person to die due to those riots was a cop injured by rioters.

2) The BLM riots have killed exactly zero police.

3) The BLM people were asking “why can’t police be as non-violent to black people as they were to armed insurgents storming government buildings” not “why not more violence?”. You couldn’t be more wrong in your take, there.

There were no armed insurgents storming government buildings. That is pure media myth. Also, there has been almost no violence from Trump supporters. All the arson, looting, rapes, murders, and assaults have come entirely from the BLM and antifas. You can stop lying to us; we aren't fooled.

So you’re denying a cop’s death? Wow...
And denying all the video the insurgents took of them breaking through the police lines...using violence against police.
And the photos of magats with weapons?
And the videos and photos of property damage like breaking windows?
And all the video of looting including government documents and a freakin’ pedestal?

Sure. Good luck with that.

Don't forget the stand off with guns as well as pipe bombs placed at RNC and DNC buildings

Oh yeah I forgot about the pipe bomb.

I don't need luck. I've heard plenty of lies from your side already.

Ex-cops do count, you know who Im talking about? yeah that ex-cop that was summarily executed in front of a pawn shop! dont be hypocritical! you sure got a stump in the place your brain occupied.

To clarify, much like yourself, I don't condone violence and destruction on under the guise of protest, regardless as to what the premise of the protest itself is.

However, if you want to talk about spitting disgusted fury at something far milder done by the opposing side, you have to acknowledge that you are comparing:

a) A protest regarding the failure to of the powers that be to acknowledge and regard the consistently unjust deaths of a certain demographic by the hands of people whose role is to protect and serve.

To:

b) People upset that the political party (I'd argue more specifically, the person) of their choice did not win.

Now, I don't subscribe to that "ACAB" bullshit, but the murder of innocent people at the hands of police is certainly, in my eyes, worthy of acknowledgement. I condemn the violence and damage that ensued, but it is an issue absolutely worthy of protest. The prevalence of these issues are absolutely irrefutable, the footage is there for all to see.

You do not have to do mental gymnastics to realise that (in spite of what some people here have said) that the Capitol protest has little to do with voter integrity - the "Trump 2020" and "Trump For President" flags don't exactly scream "Actually guys, we're looking for a bipartisan way to ensure voter validity, which will be in the best interests of everyone.".

This is an issue regardless of where you are on the politcal spectrum, because I don't even see this as a left vs right thing, or even a Republican vs Democrat thing - this was about a cult of personality. Those people didn't want the Republicans to win, they wanted TRUMP to win, and they wanted him to win in spite of how the public voted - these people who are quick to talk about freedom on one hand, but clamour for a despot in the other. At the very best, it's bad form, and at the very worst, it's a complete disregard to democracy.

For you to talk about people making a big deal "spitting disgusted fury at something far milder done by the opposing side" only for you to pick this particular time to raise the point just seems a little tone deaf, and perhaps for you, even trite.

I disagree that BLM and Antifa protests are about the mistreatment of black people, because the primary targets of those mobs were private businesses and homes. Both organisations are communist, created by university-educated communists and mostly comprised of students, dressed and prepared to commit crime. Over a billion dollars in damages, thousands of fires, beatings innumerable, areas of cities held hostage and vandalised for weeks on end, even straight-up murders. Despite the national statistics flying in the face of every nonsensical claim about how the USA is racist against black people. It is a colossal shitshow of revolting proportions and not one of them had the right to do the fucking shit they did. Tone deaf? Yeah, I should consider the feelings of the people who cheer on the fucking mass victimisation of members of the public, I should be considerate of their batshit, sickening, infantile cause. Where the fuck are your values?

It wasn't just Antifa and BLM though, was it? There were people among them who genuinely believed in the issue at hand, people who didn't trash and fuck things up. A good portion of them weren't communists or students, or whatever broad brushstroke conveniences your vendetta of the day. I couldn't give a rat's arse about Antifa, or BLM, or The Proud Boys or any of this shit that's just turning into gang rivalry and chest beating of the malignant and dangerous variety, I'm talking about actual issues.

You want to talk about values? You've very conveniently said fuck all about the nature of the protest at the Capitol building. Just a non-committal "I don't like violence", to say nothing about the reasoning behind it. A convenient segue for the same old shit you always bang on about.

You might as well begin by opening with the weather before going on your tirades. You don't need need to wait for the invasion of Capitol Hill if you've got nothing of actual meaning to say about it. No values in that. Do you actually thing in terms of values anymore? Do your enemies determine your values more than your values determine your enemies? I wonder.

The nature of the violence was bugger all in comparison to the left destruction, it was mostly idiots taking selfies, they didn't show up with weapons either. It was mild by comparison to all the other fuckin shit we've been seeing. Don't come lecturing me about what I ought to say or ought not to say either, it's none of your business. If you want to believe that Joe Biden is legitimately the most voted-for elected president in history, beating Obama by a country mile, despite the fact he struggles saying a coherent sentence, you can believe that crap. I don't agree with what the people did at Capitol Hill, but one afternoon of shit is a blessing considering how angry those people are, who feel genuinely robbed of their votes, which the democrats are not being transparent about and are blocking audits. Something stinks and anyone with integrity would be fine with it being checked out fully; shit, there's even fraud caught on tape in some places with the vote counting. But nah, lets pretend what happened the other day is just beyond the pale and an act of insurrection and terrorism, with the same media who lied and pandered to over a year of left-wing violence. You have no sense of proportion and are nobody to be coming to me to talk about saying something of meaning when you spend so much of your time not taking any kind of stand whatsoever. You're too much of an intellectual coward to have a position, so sod off.

I spend most of my time practicing what you preach. Making my bed and all that.

I'll concede, people didn't vote for Biden, not even democrats think highly of him. They don't need to. It's just that the alternative is so fucking mental that even something as tired and banal as an elderly career politician is more desirable.

For the record, I'm not sitting on the fence, I just don't know how to do what needs to be done - which is ending this partisan nutbag bullshit. No, really, it's all mental. Just as riddled with identity politics as the other. Fucking gross.

As for "intellectual cowardice", it's called thinking. I'm going to keep thinking, too. The alternative seems worse.

I look at you and see a wound-up toy solder who'll just keep rattling frantically forward until they walk off the table. That's where that's going to end, let me tell you.

As for coming out of nowhere and lecturing you; you're right, that isn't fair, and I'm sorry. I've clearly got some retarded hangups going on. Part of me doesn't want to see you walk off the deep end, part of me thinks you've already lost it, and part of me is a count who thinks it's pertinent to let you know.

Trump was an excellent president in my estimation, only one incessantly spat on by people far worse than he is, the lies have been absolutely incredible. Acting like I don't think, I just follow some insane train of thought until I wind up walking off a cliff, is a sickening insult. It's not all mental, there aren't just two sides, the left and the right, with nothing but a sea of partisans. That's just you pretending it's all mental because it's easier than having any firm values. Pretending I'm just some fuckin angry idiot who doesn't know what he's doing or saying is the same old patronising shit I'm used to getting from people who have nothing to say beyond "you're all nuts". I'm fucking sick of you people who keep coming back to me to prod and poke, emotionally manipulate me and pretend they have my best interests at heart. It's absolutely disgusting and all it does is make my life that bit more shite. Gaslighting lies, just because I don't say what you want to hear, think like you want me to think, I've gone astray. I'm sick of it you utter bastards. I've not spent years of my life reading hundreds of books from all over the philosophical spectrum to be told I have a narrow perspective and can't think for myself. Leave me the hell alone, I don't owe any of you anything.

You don't owe me anything, I know. I should never have replied.

Sos, I'll let you be.

Incidentally, considering it's you who has decided to piss off out of my life each time, why don't you stay pissed off? Cock.

I didn't piss off because of you. I pissed off because the channel was an unpleasant distraction for what was becoming a very stressful, shitty part of my life. I didn't need the constant negativity, I had enough shit going on.

Yeah, and I don't need people pissing off out of nowhere then showing up out of nowhere only to act like they're my fucking parent and giving me a lecture. Fuck. Off.

Nice, you're banned. What a sad, funny loser you are.

Agreed.

Agreed. It was antifa who did this! They took advantage and performed their worst act to date. Now they want to either remove or impeach Trump? He's leaving anyway - what the hell?! The hate these Democrats carry!

Buy Bitcoin.

Please don't get banned. After seeing FA's latest statement on the matter https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9737683

Can't say the admins are interested in anything other than total agreement.

Funny how they were silent about people inciting riots during BLM protests. Double standard much. Riots are riots.

Double standards caused this problem only a fool would think it's going to go away with more double standards

We should them drag them off from behind the screen by their necks and show them their own hipocrisy.

Everyone is a thug until they´re face to face with their rivals or oposition. This is what I hate about the modern era... and this is coming from 98s kid.

The news media and the Democrats are lying. Trump called for protest; he never, ever incited any attacks on the Capitol and the people who said he did know it. Especially laughable are the people who are so sanctimonious about an attack on our country who certainly have no respect for our country or democracy to begin with-you know who you are.

Boy you sure glossed over this because its not the usual people you love to hate. You said its a blessing even that trump was a good president even i remember when you said he was a joke. Wouldnt be surprised if you turned christian too. You even took the fraud accusation to hear man if heres a fraud then boh democrats and republicans orchestrated it because none of them supported trumps blurry videos. Man Were it blm invading capitol the text would be twice as long def.

You're depressed, you say? I'd be depressed too if I was a Trump supporter living in one of the most left-wing parts of England.

PS: The treatment you get for free from the NHS? If politicians like Trump ran the country, you'd be paying £££££ for all of that.

Cry more. Really pathetic to see this is where you ended up, defending a vile traitor to America, who'd consider you a freak, a pervert, a loser and a junkie.

Later, bozo.

This shit's really made it easy to find the MAGAts hiding in the fandom.

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