Sadly there's nothing sane people can do to stop it. The ideology has taken control and we have to ride it out whether we like it or not. Buy a gun.

Question (From a neutral bystander)... If Left condones usage of guns and plans to outlaw them or otherwise deweaponize organizations such as the NRA and whatnot, aka, the fear of "Taking our guns away" ... Why are you saying buy a gun? Where is the logic in that other than trying to state "We need to shoot them" since they do not plan to shoot you?

A lot of the far right (and far left) seem to have opposing and misinformed views of one another, worse yet, they seem to actively contradict themselves over and over... Hm...

Are you honestly frightened that they will come and shoot you? That war is actually going to happen?

Honestly, I see more people being terrified of gun owners than those who want to regulate weapons... So it just seems odd that contradiction is there.

Oh well.


A reminder that sane people don't give into conspiracy and don't blanket statement entire cultures and belief systems, nor do they state you need weaponry when nothing of violence is coming from a source they are frightened of.

Coming from a non-biased neutral observer. You should be wary of your contradictions, for it gives your rivals evidence to use against you. (And be wary of misinformation being fed to you... Which there is much of it on all sides in politics and the media. Conspiracies are generally lead by misinformation or miscommunication, be wary of this too.)

A good way to reword your last statement would be "Be safe", but what do I know. I'm a pacifist :)


EDIT: A reminder that I am anticipating being insulted in some way shape or form for making an observation. This has happened 5 times tonight and I guess I'll expect it further. People don't like it when observations they don't agree with are made, so they tend to lash out at others because of it. A bad habit, really.

You buy a gun so you're able to defend yourself IF anyone comes for you, which considering the majority of twitter wants to see conservatives blanketly arrested and guns banned, I find that a fair conclusion to make.

So... defend yourself... against cops... If they want to ban guns, why do you need a gun to defend yourself against those who do not have guns... The cops and military would be the ones with the guns... Or are you just threatening to kill someone who disagrees with you..? This isn't a fair conclusion. It's a contradictive one, hon :\ Try to step back and think about that.

And 'majority of twitter' you mean the minority of twitter that yells for it.

"Guns banned" eh... Regulated isn't banned. If you read the bills proposed you'd understand what that means.

If you are arrested, and have done nothing wrong, you'll be fine. Heck, you can even file lawsuit against the state for wrongful imprisonment and get money from it. That's the capitalism these people tend to defend so much, I don't see a problem.

Lets see, what's a tactic being used... Oh yeah.
"What about the right who called for all democrats to be arrested for supporting BLM?" -This is a blanket statement-. This is false, because only a minority of them did this. Same for the twitter folks. Most of them are actually just going "Okay, don't care you're leaving twitter." and going "All the people who invaded the capitol need to be brought to justice", while a select few loud folks are going "ALL OF THEM ARE MONSTERS"

Misinformation is not wise. Be wary about what you spread.

The assumptions you're making about me and what I said/meant are so hilariously either ill-willed or misinformed that I can't even respond.

And it falls back to insults.

NEVER fall back to insults. Fall back to your facts. If I am misinformed, then educate me. If I am wrong, then prove it. Cite your sources.

But, seeing as I'm 'Hilariously Ill-Willed', I'll take it you'll just go "LOL LIBTARD" or whatever your kind does these days to polarize perspectives.

"You buy a gun so you're able to defend yourself IF anyone comes for you-" Defend yourself against people. Which people?
"-which considering the majority of twitter wants to see conservatives blanketly arrested-" Arrested, not killed.
"-and guns banned, I find that a fair conclusion to make." If guns are banned are they going to come harm you with their own... banned guns?

I'm using your own statement as evidence of your beliefs. that's not an assumption, dear.

EDIT: Also stating "I can't even respond" uh... You can? Cite your sources and prove me wrong, if you cannot, maybe rethink your own misinformation?

well i know on CNN they already admitted it was antifa that initiated the break in and then egged every one else in. and sworn testimony to. so on. so how can they impeach him for a peacefull protest. when it was antifa that admits to the crime of storming the building? and why the rush to impeach if trump is only in there to the 20th.

No they didnt you moronic twat waffle.

Failure to provide this supposed confession if proof your a moronic twat waffle. Dont bother deflecting

Provide a direct link to prove your claims.

Also- the reason why impeachment? Well, a) largely to put on record his role in this garbage time, and b) if he's kicked out then he both doesn't get to have any of the benefits of former presidents and he is also being banned from running for federal office ever again.

Tara, I expected better of you than to spread literal misinformation that's been debunked time and time again.

There's physical evidence and the photos of the people taken that are all associated with the terrorist organization that invaded the capital. They went on social media, a place where they prominently spoke openly and positively about trump over the past 4 years, and now they're Antifa infiltrators? That makes no sense. Antifa had nothing to do with this. FBI says there is no evidence on it. DoJ says there's no evidence. Fuck, even the police say there's no evidence and some few are even "proud" of what happened (Fuck.)

It's throwing shade on their 'foes' to cause a misinformation campaign and you fell for it.

:\ Do your research and cite your sources.

"Im not saying I agree with the violence but the violence is justified for freedom"

Dumb ass

why have you become so violent and hateful with what you have to say to others you disagree with?

Didn't realize "dumbass" was such a violent and hateful term now... Imagine if he called you worse im sure your head would explode.

his previous post in other journals are quite violent and hateful.

Because all you do is defend the indefensible. You side with a terrorist attack

"I dont agree with the violence and attempted kidnappings or murders of Government workers. But I agree that that did what they did" Paraphrased from Foxtrack 2021

I agree with protesting and taking position on public grounds, not with causing harm on others. Sad that you call everyone a terrorist when you your self support terrorist groups such as BLM and antifa.

Just want to get this straight:
Putting aside the destructtion-

BLM who protested for social justice, race relations and to hold police accountable- terrorists.

QAnon and Trunpsters who protested because they lost an election and to force Congress to invalidate 84 million votes- not terrorists.

And I just want to get this straight:
Doesn't matter what you are protesting for, looting and burning down businesses, killing people and destroying property is wrong!

The protesters on the 6th weren't there to protest a lost election, they were there to protest the fact that there wasn't even an official investigation into it.
4 years ago some fake Russian spy was enough evidence needed to launch a 3-year, $40+ million dollar investigation into collusion and none was found. There's some where near 1000 affidavits from people that said they saw that they thought wasn't right, don't you think that even warrants being looked into? The more they try to avoid that, the more people will think something is up..

Trump and his lawyers had 60+ chances to prove their case in court. All they had to do was bring credible evidence in front of judges, many of whom Trump appointed. End if story. Trump lost, get over it. All you're doing is saying that 84 million voters don't matter and you want a do-over and recount until Trump wins.

See, you have to quit making assumptions about what I and others are actually saying. I've seen you and many others doing this often.
I did not say to throw out 84 million votes, just that if there are found to be fraudulent votes, those should be subtracted from the total.
In most of the cases you sited, they were tossed out on procedural grounds, not crossing a T or dotting an i or filing a day late, ect.. the evidence was not even looked at.

Well then Trump should be hiring more competent lawyers if they can't get their procedures straight for something as important as constitutional law.

And you're right I'm sure that conveniently the "fraudulent" votes would be just enough to make several of those states flip back to Trump, right?

And you say most which implies that even you have to admit that there have been cases where there was not enough evidence brought to judges. Trump had a month to get things right if there really was oodles of evidence. So much evidence right? Hell the GOP had control of the senate, they could have forced enough committies to start investigations if they truly believed there was enough fraud instead of relying on parliamentarian tricks to get their way.

there may, or may not be enough of fraudulent votes to change the election results.
So yeah, with all the evidence that exists, I do believe there were several committees formed and based on those several senators/congressmen made objections to the electoral vote. Even so, there was no investigations by any official government entities, not the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security. none of them...
A real investigation needs to be done to find out, one way or the other, if something was amiss or that it was all above board and all's good, otherwise half the country is not going to trust the voting system anymore. That seems like a reasonable course of action to me, I don't understand why it doesn't for you.

As I stated in my previous comment, investigations have found no evidence of fraud, and they were by official government entities. Refusal to accept that these investigations didn't have the outcome you wanted is just denial and spreading misinformation that there were no investigations is disgusting.

The Justice Department and Homeland Security both looked into things, they have to the moment people say anything. The Attorney General and the guy in charge ofbcybersecurity, both of which had been appointed by Trump and therefore have vested interests since Trump getting reelected means they keep their jobs, said there was not enough evidence of fraud after their own investigations. And noted this is also from Barry, who had been Trump's bestest buddy and defending him up and down, and who had also bought into the idea right until he actually started looking st the findings.

The funny thing is, Homeland Security isn't even supposed to look into it lmao they're for external threats, but since we've not had as many, they've been looking for internal threats and reassigned as basically "baby FBI" at this point. It's sad that it has to come to that.

But you're entirely right, there's been investigations from MULTIPLE official sources, these people just refuse to believe the evidence brought forth and think it's a grand conspiracy. These are the same idiots who think everyone on the 6th were antifa agents... Even though we have evidence that for the past 4 years most of them were trumpers... and they tweeted with their faces who they were... and even a west virginian politician was arrested, a REPUBLICAN one who supported the fuck out of trump... Apparently he's antifa..?

I hate to break it to you, but I see this excuse used all the time. "Why not BLM Protests! Why not Antifa!" Different motivations, different reasons, and different outcomes. NO ONE is saying Property damage and life endangerment is good, and even protesters, if you paid attention to the 'left side' were screaming about the idiots who started violent riots. There was at least one instance of a 'Proud Boy' disguised as a protestor inciting a riot, and multiple instances of police instigated riots, and there is evidence (Photographic and Audio) as well as admissions of guilt on the matter.

That being said, no, they did not say "Go damage property and hurt others." Their agenda was peaceful and quiet protests. When taking a knee is considered a terrorist attack, but killing a police officer in the capitol building is called protesting, that is what they want to point out in the polarization. Not the fact there was violence, but the fact that when there wasn't violence, you only focused on the violence.

We never called them terrorists for wanting to march on DC. We never called them terrorists for wanting to turn the vote away (maybe idiots and other names, but not terrorists). We called them terrorists the moment they stepped foot inside a government building armed with guns and explosives. We called them terrorists for taking our sacred flag down and replacing it with a trump flag. We called them terrorists for the death of a police officer that could've been avoided if they just stayed peaceful.

The big difference is that in the BLM protests, MOST protests were silence, most were kept calm, but you only focus on the violent ones without looking at the evidence of inciting violence from the police and already hostile people, you see that as a whole. I see the people who went inside the capitol as terrorists. I do not see people who backed trump silently as terrorists. See the difference?



Now for the most disgusting bit of misinformation you're spreading. "They were protesting the lack of an official investigation" even though there were investigations. The FBI has already put on their website that they've investigated it and are willing to investigate further with physical evidence. The Department of Justice, which Trump assigned his cabinet to, found zero instances of mass voter fraud. The department of homeland security doesn't work with voting investigations, sorry, honey, but they are supposed to protect us from external threats, not the internal ones. The CIA has nothing to do with voter fraud and immediately default claims to the FBI, which it's in their name, The I means 'Investigation'.

So what did they march for? Trump told them "On the 6th, we're going to march on DC" Why did they march? "Because the election was stolen". When it wasn't. There's no evidence other than hearsay. It is complete conspiracy to say otherwise, and misinformation at this point that people refuse to admit "Maybe I'm wrong."

But there IS evidence, in the Georgia call, that Trump was trying to force fraud for himself. There IS evidence that in that call, the politician Trump spoke with refused to commit fraud for him, and stated that everything was as secure as possible.

You have evidence against the claims of fraud, but you throw it out and try misinformation campaigns in place of it. I'm sorry, that's not how facts work.

I am not some 'leftist' 'communist' 'socialist' bastard. I'm pointing out the flaws in your points by bringing forth actual information and facts from a neutral observer's standard. I do this to both sides. Misinformation will not be tolerated. Lies will not be tolerated. Insults will not be tolerated. Civility and truth are only what is acceptable.

You should prepare yourself for more of this, the lamestream media and their censorship have only fanned the flames further and emboldened folks like this. It's only going to get worse too.. But that is our world in 2021, only one side is allowed to speak, the other gets deleted/canceled/banned..
No more discussion allowed..

OMFG !!!!!! Is this FA or Communist Agenda????????!!!!!! https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9736992/

WELLS LETS HOPE THEY DONT CANCEL CULTURE ME FOR POSTING MY NEXT PIECE THAT VIEWS A HORRIBLE FUTURE OF WAR WITH COMMUNIST CHINA BECAUSE IM SICK OF THIS SHIT!!! (Which they are anthros but Ive played few of the Fallout games) Not 76

Sorry I had to vent. They are only going to divid if they are doing something left.

"If freedom of speech applies to private businesses, that is a form of Communism, if it doesn't, that allows Capitalism." Before you go "You're Wrong", study politics on what communism and capitalism are before spouting labels you don't understand.

Cancel Culture is as capitalistic as it gets. It's literal boycotting. (And I hate it)

Freedom of Speech being placed upon private businesses is literally the government putting their hands deep DEEP into businesses and controlling them to keep the workers 'free', when in fact when that happens it creates oppression and control by the government.

Are you sure you want that?

Coming from a neutral bystander and observer. I side with neither. Try to educate yourself on politics, please, you'll find people have been misusing terms way too much lately, and it's spread misinformation like a virus.

ill say the virus is a problem but its less of a factor because its not deadly to everybody but Im gonna say what these "SAFETY" rules in the U.S. they're pushing some are going extreme and the face covering diaper is only good if your working as a doctor or something that might evolve chemicals not to get on your face and only really if you need to were if you are actually sick but telling us to "shut up and wear it is like saying "Communism is good for you and must give up your breathing" and my breathing is fuck now because of this along with few teeth that had wait longer for a checkup up until few month ago.

And look if one things we can disagree on things thats something we American can, I dont want to be angry about whats happening but if someone like the left starts enforcing new laws that breaks our freedom this country would be dead because it not represent who we are and it would be meaning less.

Im pretty sure a lot people are going to kill themselves because they see no hope or worst they will go out start gun shooting they wouldn't care who it is, whether its dumb, color or important because some people probably lost what they had and yeah that can make people go insane and media wouldn't care Im a gun man who went insane because someone like Twitter or CNN were to did something which would be a lie, I would bet a gunman regardless of security would go out with a bang.

FIRST OFF. "Spread like a virus" doesn't mean jack about "Spreading viruses". You're mixing words up and makes me wonder if you're capable of understanding what I'm about to tell you.

SECONDLY.

"Communism is good for you!" You're throwing a political agenda on a scientific and medical oriented factor, something politicians should never EVER DO. It spreads misinformation and makes idiots out of people who follow the misinformation.

FINALLY.

To pick apart your comment (Mr. Vigilante)

"It's less of a factor because it's not deadly to everybody" This excuse is horribly immoral. You're going to excuse the death of over 1.8 million people as well as more than ten times as much that now have PERMANENT damage to their lungs, brains, and other complications. We have physical evidence of this. This is not a political motivation. This is fact. "You must give up your breathing" What the fuck is wrong with you? Masks have been used for centuries. They were used in the Spanish Flu pandemic. The only reason you're freaking out is because you think a freedom that doesn't exist was taken from you. If you listened to SCIENTISTS and not fucking political dipshits who don't even know what science is, they would say "if you cannot wear a mask for any reason, try to minimalize your exposure. If it's medical, you're EXCEPTIONALLY at risk, so have others get things for you out in public. If you can, wear a face shield, it's not as effective as a mask, but it will help somewhat."

Wearing a mask is important because you can be asymptomatic and still contagious. And to all you IDIOTS out there saying "Asymptomatic means not contagious" Fuck off with that misinformation, it means you have limited or less severe symptoms. It means you're a walking plague bearer who doesn't realize it. The black plague had individuals like this, so did the spanish flu. Furthermore, wearing a mask can limit exposure to yourself, so can clean habits, like not touching your eyes, nose, mouth, or ears, or anywhere on the face really, without washing your hands after being in contact with public surfaces and individuals. But you leave that part out, don't you? You just push the political agenda of "OPPRESSION". No. Masks are not oppression. They are a means to contain a threat, and you refuse to look into the alternatives that can help you.

"My breathing is fucked" Are you sure you didn't have the virus and just didn't get tested? Also lets get some sources out for you to 'deny' because they're not what you 'agree with' even though there's fact behind them.
https://www.unitypoint.org/article......e-6b6aff8acc36
https://www.abc57.com/news/can-face.....rm-your-health (Yick, I used mainstream media, but it is a reference for people who refuse to check science sites)
https://news.sanfordhealth.org/coro.....ith-face-mask/
vumc.org/coronavirus/latest-news-you-asked-we-answered/does-prolonged-wearing-facemask-cause-harm (Thanks FA for ruining the link)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.....on/3698536001/

So no, your mask did not 'fuck your breathing', something else did, a proper underlying problem you should have checked out when you can.

"If someone starts enforcing new laws that breaks our freedom" Which freedom is that? Freedom to bare arms is an archaic militia law and should be regulated (not banned), a lot of left -AND- right leaning people are in support of regulation of ammunition and guns to prevent violence. (Especially after recent events). Freedom to 'breathe' is not a 'freedom', it's a misinformed response. Freedom of Speech does not affect private businesses for a reason, capitalism. If it did, it would be communism. You see, a lot of people mix those two up because they don't research politics, and it makes me sad they use 'Communist' as an insult, when it's just an ideology... It's like using the term 'Capitalist' as an insult or using the a religion as an insult, among other things, it makes no sense because you lose meaning behind what the original word means. *sigh* Anyways, research politics and you'll find that 'Enabling the government to exact freedoms on a private space counts as a form of communistic control.' Just saying, you want that?

"A lot of people are going to kill themselves because they see no hope" So people downplay the deaths of millions from a pandemic, but uplift the death of suicides... Right...
"They'll go out and gun down people" We're trying to cull inciting violence, 'Mr. Vigilante', not incite it. Regardless if you support BLM, Trump, Antifa, Nazism, or whatever you support, we are antiviolence. Using one to excuse another is unhealthy, immoral, and disgusting. Violence does not solve anything.

Now. You'll probably call me a 'left extremist' or something, but I'm just a neutral observer. Bringing forth information that picks apart your argument, in hopes you'll rethink your line of thinking. Admitting you're wrong is hard, but it doesn't mean you've lost or anything, it means you've gained knowledge. It means you've learned.

And get that breathing problem checked out, because that is NOT mask related and could be something worse. :\

Mean will see what happens but if a lot more die because of Biden or I should say "left controlists" which is the new leader because Biden is just a tool with a dying brain. So a lot more die well it will be on them, and media continue lying saying oh its China Virus.

Humans Rights is out the window now at this point.

Are you even from America btw?

First of all, you're going completely against what I said by stating "A lot more will die because a politician was elected". Trump downplayed the virus. Trump attacked actual medical and scientific organizations. Trump threatened educational institutions. Why? it made him look bad. Biden's 'damage' will be minimum compared to that.

"A tool with a dying brain" Cite your sources on how he's on his last legs. Multiple sources so I can see if you're pulling that out of your ass.

"A lot more will die because of them" Even though they favor higher stimulus checks to keep the economy going, they favor free vaccinations, they favor universal healthcare, all things that PREVENT viral deaths? What are you on?

"Media continue Lying", mate, the media's been lying for decades. It's all about advertising space. I get my sources from outside of mainstream media because of it, that's why I gagged at offering an ABC source.

But saying they're 'Lying about it being the 'china virus'', mate, it originated from China. We have scientific proof outside of the media. When we said it came from a bat, we investigated it, we found out it had a different source, and it is STILL from Wuhan. Your misinformation koolaid must taste great to deny evidence from non-media sources...

"Human Rights is out the window at this point." They're advocating the human right for universal healthcare. Are you sure you're human rights and not just 'My rights'? Selfishness is a curse and you should probably work on dispelling it, lad.

"Are you even from America btw?" Why would it matter? America affects the rest of the world, just as China does, and parts of Europe do. What happens in America is important to trade and diplomacy in other countries. They look on and fear or have hope based on what America does. Right now? They're facepalming it came to what it did. Most of the world hated Trump for good reason. He was a failed businessman and a conman who conned his way to the presidency and made a cult of followers out of people who had lost hope and felt that he was the only light they had... Sorry, but it was all a ruse. He easily threw them all under the bus, as he is known for doing -already-. *Surprised Pikachu Face*

You want to back your arguments up, provide sources, provide facts, and don't throw hearsay, lies, misinformation, and blatant blankets of politicism where it doesn't need to exist.

Oh right, one last note. "I would bet a gunman regardless of security would go out with a bang." yes, this is called terrorism, yes it happens world wide, and yes, it is difficult to stop and predict. Humans are very unpredictable creatures. But if we can predict it happening, we'll try to prevent it.

What many revolutionary leftists/marxists/communists don't realize is once their comrades win the war against the right/Christians/any non leftist, they they are usually 'dealt with' (After those of us who are right-wing/Christian of course) - the reason being? The peoples party who takes control of the state realize those left-wing revolutionaries are potential enemies to their power grab/structure. You rebelled against the capitalists, so who is to say you won't rebel against us as well? It's about then that the pawns and foot-soldiers quickly come to realize the meaning behind the term 'useful idiot'.

Having come previously from the left ideologically and now on the right(wing), I find that trying to wake people up to what is happening is like the fight scene in the film 'They Live' where Roddy is trying to get Frank to put the glasses on so he will 'see' what Roddy sees.

Many, many people don't want to be awakened from the illusion. Ignorance is bliss, I guess..

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Mmmm... Blanket statements are not a healthy thing to do. Associating 'Leftists' with communists and marxists (Which are two different types of communism) isn't correct. The left tends to have more humanitarian ideals which have some that fall under socialist 'style' laws, but not particularly wanting socialism to reign. For example, wanting to bring about social justice or healthcare for its citizens, in place of an overinflated military budget. But doing research can be difficult, so people tend to use information they've been provided from other people and the news media to try to supplement facts, especially if it dehumanizes or attacks the side they do not agree with.

I know many 'leftists', I believe your term was, who want to work with Republicans on helping the communities and cities in this pandemic, as well as helping make fair and just taxes. I also know many 'rightists' (would that be the term? Maybe) who want to work with Democrats to try to make the pandemic stimulus higher because they know that the people are suffering. But people discard these views and go "This one view is bad, so all views are bad"... Honey, it doesn't work that way, politics is more complicated than that.

"War against the Christians" there is no war on Christians, this is a fake news line that is used time and time again. It is also to note, the USA is not a Christian Theocracy, so stop trying to force others who aren't Christian into thinking it is. Propaganda is a heck of a drug. The left AND right both believe in Freedom of Religion, which is in the constitution, so try to keep that in mind. That is why there is no war against religion, because it would be unconstitutional. They just want religion out of politics, as it should be, since we're, y'know, not a Theocracy.

"You rebelled against capitalists" Isn't enforcing Freedom of Speech on Private Businesses a direct attack on capitalism? And actually a form of Communism? GASP. No really. It is. If you studied politics you'd see that kind of policy is directly a communist one. I wonder why the left haven't tried to do that yet? Hm? I guess they're not as communistic as you believe. Misinformation is a virus, please get vaccinated for by learning to study and cite your sources.

You have been deemed guilty of that which you preach, ignorance. I would suggest you do some research and try to understand that not everything spouted around you is true, and in fact mainly used as a fear mongering tactic to dehumanize the other side. I've seen this used by left leaning SJWs as well, using misinformation to dehumanize republicans, when there are many politicians who work with each other for their people because if they don't, they don't get reelected and bad shit happens, and in some cases they go to jail.

And now for me to be labelled a 'socialist sheep' or 'communist troll' or something for observing and pointing out the flaws of your argument. I'm a neutral observer, nothing more. I side with neither left or right. I point out flaws in BOTH of them, for they are both flawed, for they are only humans.

You gotta love how the people on the supposed far left with the backing of the big evil massive multi-billion dollar, pollution spewing, slave labor using, corporations and big banks, AND the mainstream corporate media, think THEY are the "counter culture" or "anti-establishment".

isn't that a big thing for the right as well? we had a literal businessman as president for 4 years.

Oh yeah the establishment on both sides of the political divide do a lot, if not ALL, of the same type of shit.

Even though Trump is a billionaire, he pissed off the "Establishment" on both sides to the point that said establishment is now working together to try and "unperson" him, so that would technically make him anti-establishment in this case. Though take that with a grain of salt if you want.

You can be a billionaire and anti-establishment, just look at what happened to the billionaire businessman(men) in communist China that got "disappeared" when they tried to point out that what the communist party is doing (massive concentration/labor/death camps and killing protestors in Hong Kong) is wrong.