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Actually, that's just Shinto. You don't need to really add -ism to the end. That's more Taoism, AKA Daoism. And even then, Taoist is more commonly used.
And anywho, Inari is well-established as a goddess of rice, harvests, and foxes. Said to be the sender of premonitions relating to childbirth, child-rearing, and other family-related functions.
Worship is scattered, but fairly amicable and well-known to the other sects of Shinto, which is actually the worship of several of the indigenous deities.
There is a lesser-known "cult", more accurately, a set of beliefs centered around animal totems, variously known as Kitsune, Okami, Byakki, Etc.
It's believed that hosting or paying homage to one or more of these "Animal Patrons" will bestow upon the practitioner traits or abilities of the animal(s) in question.
Beseeching a Fox, for example, could be a wish for stealth, cunning, elimination of a malicious foe through trickery or exploitation of their own vices, fertility, or great speed or agility.
Seeking the favor of birds, by contrast, would be a wish for clarity in communication, a gift for oration, or persuasion, diplomatic grace, or excellence in the theatrical arts.(performers, actors, writers, philosophers, Etc. would likely seek out a bird totem).
Turtles are a lesser-known but older variation, whereby the seeker wishes for rain, protection from the elements, peaceful passing, or tranquility in the home. On a side-note(not that this whole thing isn't a series of side-notes,) peaceful passing could be a long-term wish to be free of strife, political entanglements, and to lead a quiet and peaceful life without the fear of assassination, malicious intent, or ill-wishing from envious relatives.
Anywho..... yeah, religions, faiths, cults, and practices are all rather distinct, and all have different roots and underpinnings, mostly ignored by modern-day man.
And of course, there are others that are simply not documented, kept hidden within a family or clan, and many that have died out with a family lineage, only to be unearthed years, decades, or centuries later in fragmented form, open to misinterpretation.
#nerd #superstitions #Foxes Everywhere #too_many_Damn_hashtags
And anywho, Inari is well-established as a goddess of rice, harvests, and foxes. Said to be the sender of premonitions relating to childbirth, child-rearing, and other family-related functions.
Worship is scattered, but fairly amicable and well-known to the other sects of Shinto, which is actually the worship of several of the indigenous deities.
There is a lesser-known "cult", more accurately, a set of beliefs centered around animal totems, variously known as Kitsune, Okami, Byakki, Etc.
It's believed that hosting or paying homage to one or more of these "Animal Patrons" will bestow upon the practitioner traits or abilities of the animal(s) in question.
Beseeching a Fox, for example, could be a wish for stealth, cunning, elimination of a malicious foe through trickery or exploitation of their own vices, fertility, or great speed or agility.
Seeking the favor of birds, by contrast, would be a wish for clarity in communication, a gift for oration, or persuasion, diplomatic grace, or excellence in the theatrical arts.(performers, actors, writers, philosophers, Etc. would likely seek out a bird totem).
Turtles are a lesser-known but older variation, whereby the seeker wishes for rain, protection from the elements, peaceful passing, or tranquility in the home. On a side-note(not that this whole thing isn't a series of side-notes,) peaceful passing could be a long-term wish to be free of strife, political entanglements, and to lead a quiet and peaceful life without the fear of assassination, malicious intent, or ill-wishing from envious relatives.
Anywho..... yeah, religions, faiths, cults, and practices are all rather distinct, and all have different roots and underpinnings, mostly ignored by modern-day man.
And of course, there are others that are simply not documented, kept hidden within a family or clan, and many that have died out with a family lineage, only to be unearthed years, decades, or centuries later in fragmented form, open to misinterpretation.
#nerd #superstitions #Foxes Everywhere #too_many_Damn_hashtags
i'm not exactly sure what you wanted to tell me, but i'm sorry if my really short mentioning somehow upseted you. ;) i could have made it a far longer comment, explaning the shinto (my profs used that -ism part to artifically divied the religion from the culture-part it plays in japan, it's just a kind of habbit of mine to use it)and it's history, coming to inari in the end and how even that part of the shinto changed and evolved over time, but i found that to be a little to much, since i only wanted to mention, "hey, there is already something like a fox-god (if you want to translate kami with god) you can worship if you want", leaving the rest up to personal research. i also admit i'm not deeply informed of the whole of shinto, as i studied religon as a whole and now more specific center on greek cults and the parts of zen, that directly affect martial arts. besides that i have a little insight in the things directly or indirectly affecting my own set of believes, but that is a whole other story. so in short, thanks for your longer comment, but i'm not sure what it's exact purpose was. ;)
No no no...
"We're foxes... we're foxes in tights
We roam around the forest looking for fights.
We're foxes... we're foxes in tights.
We rob from the rich and give to the poor, that's right.
We may look like sissies,
but watch what you say or else we'll put out your lights. *bang* "
:P
"We're foxes... we're foxes in tights
We roam around the forest looking for fights.
We're foxes... we're foxes in tights.
We rob from the rich and give to the poor, that's right.
We may look like sissies,
but watch what you say or else we'll put out your lights. *bang* "
:P
Yeah... I confess it felt really weird to paint. I never really fully appreciated just how much animation has changed until this day. The amount of detail people accomplish in animation now with CGI is insane and so immersive. At the same time, having grown up with 2D animation and in particular Robin Hood and the Jungle Book as my primitive inspirations to become an artist (until The Lion King sealed the deal ;) it makes me sad to think that is is a dying (if not dead) art form. But, I guess if Robin Hood corrupted us all into the fandom, someone has to carry on the legacy. ;]
Yea, its really interesting to see it, especially since it makes (atleast in my case, mileage may vary for others) me very self aware of the passage of time from then to now.
I legitimately teared up because I remembered how much of a little cinnamon roll I was back then. Always excited for Robin Hood, having a crush on Maid Marian, and loving the whole thing in general. Lets not forget the Lion King and Fox and the Hound (Soul crushing to this day), all of it was part of my childhood in a way that it is engraved into the fiber of my being. Sure I might be looking into it alot or sounding very odd, but its the best I can say since its just that touching.
I feel silly really, talking about it like this in a place where such a subject is rarely discussed in such a fashion, but I don't know what else to do. I've never had a situation of nostalgia like I am having right now. At work and trying to hold in tears because I felt like I just saw my youth pass before my eyes, plucking on heart strings in ways I didn't expect and I could have never prepared for.
I feel so warm and fussy, but at the same time hurt? Its one conundrum of a sensation to experience.
This is a part of me, a part of so many others and its something to behold. I wish I had a poet for it all.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to just dump all this on here and elaborate on complicated emotional feelings and views. Its really weird for me, to be so flabbergasted about something I didn't really realized I held so near and dear.
I legitimately teared up because I remembered how much of a little cinnamon roll I was back then. Always excited for Robin Hood, having a crush on Maid Marian, and loving the whole thing in general. Lets not forget the Lion King and Fox and the Hound (Soul crushing to this day), all of it was part of my childhood in a way that it is engraved into the fiber of my being. Sure I might be looking into it alot or sounding very odd, but its the best I can say since its just that touching.
I feel silly really, talking about it like this in a place where such a subject is rarely discussed in such a fashion, but I don't know what else to do. I've never had a situation of nostalgia like I am having right now. At work and trying to hold in tears because I felt like I just saw my youth pass before my eyes, plucking on heart strings in ways I didn't expect and I could have never prepared for.
I feel so warm and fussy, but at the same time hurt? Its one conundrum of a sensation to experience.
This is a part of me, a part of so many others and its something to behold. I wish I had a poet for it all.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to just dump all this on here and elaborate on complicated emotional feelings and views. Its really weird for me, to be so flabbergasted about something I didn't really realized I held so near and dear.
Well, 2D Disney animation is already done, few years ago they fired almost all 2d artist, just leave few the best ones, other just move to other studios, but Disney officially say that is not interested in full cinematic 2D animation anymore. So on this point 2D is dead.
Everything 'the best' will be coming from Disney Animation Studios and Pixar, cuz Pixar shows how much thing is available with 3D 20 years ago.
I also think 2D art will also die on some way in next 5 years, here on FA. I carefully obserwing what happens from last 5 years, and 2D traditionall artist is only less and less :( 2D is more difficult, more expensive (really good ones), errors are much harder to correct, you can fail in sooo many levels.
Happens that even commissioners get only digital scan so they pick up fully digital version than traditional.
I belive in next 5 years, there will be not many traditional artist, just the best ones, or those who just prefers it or better feels it. Digital is future :(
Everything 'the best' will be coming from Disney Animation Studios and Pixar, cuz Pixar shows how much thing is available with 3D 20 years ago.
I also think 2D art will also die on some way in next 5 years, here on FA. I carefully obserwing what happens from last 5 years, and 2D traditionall artist is only less and less :( 2D is more difficult, more expensive (really good ones), errors are much harder to correct, you can fail in sooo many levels.
Happens that even commissioners get only digital scan so they pick up fully digital version than traditional.
I belive in next 5 years, there will be not many traditional artist, just the best ones, or those who just prefers it or better feels it. Digital is future :(
I'm guessing you mean traditional artists, not 2D artists. Digital artists are still 2D. Not 2D would be sculpture and modeling.
That said, I don't think traditional art will ever truly die. There are a lot of "digital" artists who do traditional on the side, or keep a traditional sketchbook, or keep their traditional work outside of furries. Personally, I do both digital and traditional, but 90% of my gallery is digital because that's what people pay me for. I think a lot of the bigger names in the fandom do traditional as well, like Dark Natasha, Nambroth, Kenket, etc, which will continue influencing young artists to try traditional as well.
Also, I think conventions will keep traditional alive, if nothing else. People want art they can take home with them and doing traditional work is a lot easier than lugging around a printer.
And of course, everyone starts drawing traditionally. You don't hand a toddler a $360 Wacom tablet; you hand them a crayon and a piece of paper. That sticks with you.
That said, I don't think traditional art will ever truly die. There are a lot of "digital" artists who do traditional on the side, or keep a traditional sketchbook, or keep their traditional work outside of furries. Personally, I do both digital and traditional, but 90% of my gallery is digital because that's what people pay me for. I think a lot of the bigger names in the fandom do traditional as well, like Dark Natasha, Nambroth, Kenket, etc, which will continue influencing young artists to try traditional as well.
Also, I think conventions will keep traditional alive, if nothing else. People want art they can take home with them and doing traditional work is a lot easier than lugging around a printer.
And of course, everyone starts drawing traditionally. You don't hand a toddler a $360 Wacom tablet; you hand them a crayon and a piece of paper. That sticks with you.
Yes, exactly - traditional artists. 2D artist will be exist in all digital 2D projects from drawing to animations and ads etc. I also don't see many who make sculptures and modeling (but in some ways it was always a kinda rare even if not furry). And of course people are not able making digital fursuit from printer what you put on yourself ;)
Och traditional will never die. Art schools will be always teach that etc. Thats right there always will be folks making sketches on paper on the side, but in this one is one 'but'. I meet also furries, and those who are almost 'digitally' was of course making sketches etc - but I never seen few, fully complete and finished artworks only in traditional, cuz they didn't know how to finish the pic without 'destroying' overall Dark Natasha, Kenket and more etc - it's a big names, but most of them - was drawing before digital become so popular and used this days. They're legend, their skill and final artworks was good enough to give them popularity and they'll be inspiring others. I'm looking at furry fandom and their art from 14 years, and it's well - good old school (for fandom), like some other non furry legends: Royo, Vellejo or Giger what inspires me.
I'm very strictly looking at new furries, the 'new waves', and sadly digital is the win most of the times.
On convenctions yes - there is plenty of sketches and bigger artworks, but.. digital printed artwork - plenty :)
Well... i'm not fully agree with that. For 360$ you have everything for drawing - used, good, old laptop, used $15 basic Wacom tablet (this brand just working good for many years), and any free/cheap digital software not older than 16 years - yes even Photoshop 7 or CS is still wonderfull software. Not including - my whole working equipment is like that. I'm from PL, where you earning $335 netto per month (most of the people have such money), where if you pay for everything you can save (IF) from $30 to $60, more if you live with parents.
In this case even taking the cheapest laptop and working tools, is not sooo different (cuz plenty people have them and already taking for convents :)) than taking large set of pencils and paper (sometimes price is even higher than such equipment than I have - cuz of brand) ;)
Paper and pencil work - but when I back to main topic of future - I put my cents that traditional art is slowly dying here :(
Och traditional will never die. Art schools will be always teach that etc. Thats right there always will be folks making sketches on paper on the side, but in this one is one 'but'. I meet also furries, and those who are almost 'digitally' was of course making sketches etc - but I never seen few, fully complete and finished artworks only in traditional, cuz they didn't know how to finish the pic without 'destroying' overall Dark Natasha, Kenket and more etc - it's a big names, but most of them - was drawing before digital become so popular and used this days. They're legend, their skill and final artworks was good enough to give them popularity and they'll be inspiring others. I'm looking at furry fandom and their art from 14 years, and it's well - good old school (for fandom), like some other non furry legends: Royo, Vellejo or Giger what inspires me.
I'm very strictly looking at new furries, the 'new waves', and sadly digital is the win most of the times.
On convenctions yes - there is plenty of sketches and bigger artworks, but.. digital printed artwork - plenty :)
Well... i'm not fully agree with that. For 360$ you have everything for drawing - used, good, old laptop, used $15 basic Wacom tablet (this brand just working good for many years), and any free/cheap digital software not older than 16 years - yes even Photoshop 7 or CS is still wonderfull software. Not including - my whole working equipment is like that. I'm from PL, where you earning $335 netto per month (most of the people have such money), where if you pay for everything you can save (IF) from $30 to $60, more if you live with parents.
In this case even taking the cheapest laptop and working tools, is not sooo different (cuz plenty people have them and already taking for convents :)) than taking large set of pencils and paper (sometimes price is even higher than such equipment than I have - cuz of brand) ;)
Paper and pencil work - but when I back to main topic of future - I put my cents that traditional art is slowly dying here :(
I'm...really confused about the first part of this. I can't tell if you're trying to make a point about traditional artists or 2D artists.
Yeah, DN and Kenket are legends, and people like to emulate legends. There will always be someone who looks at Kenket's paintings and goes "dude yeah, I wanna do THAT". There are still smaller artists that do traditional as well.
ishaway and
cadmiumtea are the first to come to mind. As for those legends that only do traditional because "they're good enough", do you think they've never ruined a painting? Do you think they've always just popped out perfect work? Because they definitely did, and they haven't. They're not traditional because they're good, they're traditional because they like traditional and they're good because they practiced. Their medium and skill level are irrelevant to each other.
I can't speak for other countries but here in the US, a) children under 10 generally don't have their own laptop, which is the age I was talking about, and b) a $360 used laptop and $15 used tablet may do art for a year or two, but you're probably gonna replace them within 5 years. Digital may be cheaper in the long run if you compare the high-end supplies for professionals (ex: yes, I spent more on traditional art supplies last year than I did on my $1100 custom built computer), but I would definitely rather buy Bic mechanical pencils and Crayola colored pencils and plain computer paper for my kid than continually replace their electronics. But all that is kind of irrelevant, because I was talking about toddlers, and I'm not handing a toddler a cheap laptop OR a cheap tablet. They can go color with crayons.
Anyway, my point was as an artist who spends a lot of time (A LOT of time) in art circles, talking to other artists and looking at other artists, I really don't think traditional is going anywhere. Art has trends just like fashion or movies or anything else. Digital is popular, yes, but that doesn't mean it's going to kill traditional. In fact the fantasy illustration world, like the people who do art for book covers and Magic the Gathering cards, traditional is making a pretty strong comeback and even outnumber digital artists.
Traditional has always been there, will always be there, and isn't going anywhere. You just have to know where to look.
Yeah, DN and Kenket are legends, and people like to emulate legends. There will always be someone who looks at Kenket's paintings and goes "dude yeah, I wanna do THAT". There are still smaller artists that do traditional as well.
ishaway and
cadmiumtea are the first to come to mind. As for those legends that only do traditional because "they're good enough", do you think they've never ruined a painting? Do you think they've always just popped out perfect work? Because they definitely did, and they haven't. They're not traditional because they're good, they're traditional because they like traditional and they're good because they practiced. Their medium and skill level are irrelevant to each other.I can't speak for other countries but here in the US, a) children under 10 generally don't have their own laptop, which is the age I was talking about, and b) a $360 used laptop and $15 used tablet may do art for a year or two, but you're probably gonna replace them within 5 years. Digital may be cheaper in the long run if you compare the high-end supplies for professionals (ex: yes, I spent more on traditional art supplies last year than I did on my $1100 custom built computer), but I would definitely rather buy Bic mechanical pencils and Crayola colored pencils and plain computer paper for my kid than continually replace their electronics. But all that is kind of irrelevant, because I was talking about toddlers, and I'm not handing a toddler a cheap laptop OR a cheap tablet. They can go color with crayons.
Anyway, my point was as an artist who spends a lot of time (A LOT of time) in art circles, talking to other artists and looking at other artists, I really don't think traditional is going anywhere. Art has trends just like fashion or movies or anything else. Digital is popular, yes, but that doesn't mean it's going to kill traditional. In fact the fantasy illustration world, like the people who do art for book covers and Magic the Gathering cards, traditional is making a pretty strong comeback and even outnumber digital artists.
Traditional has always been there, will always be there, and isn't going anywhere. You just have to know where to look.
The passing of a torch, the end of an era.
Its sad to think there wont be any more 2D disney movies, and no matter what they come up with now nothing will ever be as good as the originals.
Lion king, robin hood, those are the movies that this generation carries in their hearts, the next generation will carry frozen and brave, and while they are two amazing movies, they just... dont seem as authentic or real. Theres no emotion in the strokes like there is on 2D. It doesnt matter what you make the character feel and how well you make their expression in 3d, there is always something about 2D art that will carry more soul than anything made in 3D.
In my opinion at least.
Its sad to think there wont be any more 2D disney movies, and no matter what they come up with now nothing will ever be as good as the originals.
Lion king, robin hood, those are the movies that this generation carries in their hearts, the next generation will carry frozen and brave, and while they are two amazing movies, they just... dont seem as authentic or real. Theres no emotion in the strokes like there is on 2D. It doesnt matter what you make the character feel and how well you make their expression in 3d, there is always something about 2D art that will carry more soul than anything made in 3D.
In my opinion at least.
its not as dead as everyone thinks. Look at Japan for instance. They can do 3d animation. But for a variety of factors they still stick with computer assisted 2d. Probably for the really big budget flicks in theaters perhaps 3d will be the only option offered. But as far as quality day to day animation it will be 2d for a long time to come.
The torch has been passed...or rather, the bow and arrow.
Fitting as the legend Bedford passes, Nick does really take on the responsibility. And having seen the film last week. He's filling ol' Rob's green shoes quite nicely.
This is a fitting tribute to that legacy.
Amazing work
Fitting as the legend Bedford passes, Nick does really take on the responsibility. And having seen the film last week. He's filling ol' Rob's green shoes quite nicely.
This is a fitting tribute to that legacy.
Amazing work
Zootopia is fantastic! I was lucky enough to see it last weekend (it's already released where I live). It does indeed live up to the hype! You'll laugh (a lot) and might even tear up a little bit a couple of times but I assure you that you'll leave with a huge smile! It's by far one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. Truly an amazing work of art with a very touching story to go along with it. :)
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I just realized there's going to be ton of new fox fursonas coming up soon because of this movie. Hopefully us older folks will have the patience and kindness to guide them through it.
And also to make sure to remind any gatekeepers that once all of us were new to the fur.
We could set up a Big Sibling foundation!
And also to make sure to remind any gatekeepers that once all of us were new to the fur.
We could set up a Big Sibling foundation!
pretty amazing Disney did this movie at all considering all the controversy surrounding the furry fandom these days but regardless they did it anyway and the movie was enjoyable to watch too. Can't fault them for doing a good job when they don't outsource everything to pixar for a change too.
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