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3 years ago
What if Trees could think...
So I've been working with Midjourney bot lately and creating some artworks.
What I do is wrangle the bot to make images from a prompt, once I've pushed and prodded it to cough up an image that's close enough to what I want, I then paint over it and adjust it to how I want it to be!
I'm having a lot of fun with it, and I'll probably start posting them here, so I wanted to talk about it as it's a big deal in the art world at the moment, the same as when digtal, or more specifically 3D art jumped in the pool and made rather large waves. Saddly, some artists were washed away then and I suspect some will be with the rise of A.I generated art. But, I don't 100% see it as a bad thing, and I'd like to talk a bit about how I'm thinking about it.
It's a strange thing, and I know A.I is creating waves in the art world. People are worried, and annoyed, it's learning from artists who already exist to create artwork that could detract from working artists career opportunities.
I don't think any of these things are untrue but I don't share their fear.
When digital art, particularly 3D art arrived, it caused huge upheavals, nearly all the 2D artists in the big industry jobs lost their jobs rapidly after 3D made it into the mainstream animation industry.
Absolutely A.I could do the same, but in that big change around in the past, people had to adapt to survive, 2D artists and animators became 3D artists and animators and found or kept jobs.
As for what A.I is taught on, yes, it uses huge quantities of other peoples art to learn what things look like and what styles look like, and yes, it's done with out the artists consent, but so is any artist learning from another artist. Generally when an artists is learning about styles and so on we're encouraged to make studies of other peoples work, even in mainstream education we're set tasks to make copies of great artists work, alive or dead. The only thing that's different here is there isn't a human on the end of the art. That is an issue to an extent. However it is still a valuable tool in terms of time saving if we learn to use it rapidly we can keep up with the industry standard and maybe even get ahead of the curve. Whether we like it or not, A.I is coming and it'll probably make its way into the industry, so I suspect, we're going to have to learn how to use it if we want to get into the big industry jobs.
If thats not your bag, thats totally fine, keep doing what you're doing, you don't need A.I and I think despite the doom sayers, people will always want art that was made from scratch by an artist, digital or otherwise. Just the same as while traditional art does have a competitor in digital art, people still really want a physical object they can hold, just the same as digital fans will still want a piece that an artist put hours into.
I'm not going to stop drawing normally, but I am really enjoying working on top of A.I creations, my process isn't random or necessarily easy, I don't just pick what ever it throws at me and work on it as I do have a set idea of what I want, I fight with the the thing to get an outcome I really like before starting work on it. I'm chuffed with what I can create with it and the speed I can make them at means that I have time to work on personal ideas along side my commissions, and in terms of mental health, that is a huge thing for me. I feel A.I will be my pal who I can collab with any time, I Still love sketching and drawing from scratch too, but when time is so short and my lil (possibly) ADHD brain needs a win just so I can hang on by my fingernails to my love of art, I think it'll probably be something I play with just to give me a little "YEH that looks cool" boost of dopamine just to give me the fuel to keep drawing. Maybe I'll even take it beyond that, who knows. Maybe I'll take commissions with it, I would like to get into art in some industry, maybe this'll be the entry way. A.I is going to need creatives to work it, we all have had clients who really can't accurately describe what they want, and thats ok, not everyone has the words or maybe they haven't built up a creative library, so not everyones going to be able to work an A.I. But this does give people who have the words but not the skills in art to create images that make them happy and serve their purpose, and thats great in my opinion, not everyone can afford 100s or 1000s of moneys worth of art and my hate for capitalism means that seeing people happy with their slightly fever dream lookin' picture makes me happy.
Yeah we're going to have to find a way to survive in the next generation of art technology but, I think going with the flow yields better results than rallying against progress in terms of art tools. Ultimately though, do what makes you happy and I hope you will always find there is work for you, I hope that A.I helps all artists, rather than trashing half of them as 3D animation did to 2D animators.
One thing I hope will become common place will be being HONEST about how the artwork was made, the world is full of dishonest people and I think while there's value in all art, just selling a straight up unedited A.I generation does make me sigh a little. Not to say wrangling an A.I to create something you like is easy, but I DO worry people will be out there claiming they painted every line when they didn't. A.I generated art does have a look about it but that will fade as A.I learns more and I feel to sell an A.I piece as a fully painted piece would be very dishonest. I'd feel the same as a digital piece being sold as a traditional piece once printed on canvas.
However, MORE dishonest folks exist, people who take other peoples art, claim they did it, then make half arsed works on Fiverr. I feel these people are a greater problem than people using A.I to their benefit.
Thats my 2 pence on this anyway. Of course you don't have to agree, I'd love to hear what you have to say even, perhaps there's an angle I haven't viewed that will change my opinion entirely, I can't imagine so, it's here and its going to get picked up by the industry, art is going to change, but every piece of tech changes it, I don't think art and artists will ever fade away for good.
If you want to see the comparisons between what I create vs what I pulled out of midjourney I'll be posting them to my artstation https://www.artstation.com/oliviatuppen otherwise the finished pieces will be all uploaded here, I'll probably link to the art station uploads of each of them if I remember to, but, (possible) ADHD is a beech.
Take care and look after your mental health in these times, a lots changing, far bigger scarier things than this in some cases, a lot of tensions are running high and sometimes its good to step away just too sooth the mind.
Much loves to you all.
What I do is wrangle the bot to make images from a prompt, once I've pushed and prodded it to cough up an image that's close enough to what I want, I then paint over it and adjust it to how I want it to be!
I'm having a lot of fun with it, and I'll probably start posting them here, so I wanted to talk about it as it's a big deal in the art world at the moment, the same as when digtal, or more specifically 3D art jumped in the pool and made rather large waves. Saddly, some artists were washed away then and I suspect some will be with the rise of A.I generated art. But, I don't 100% see it as a bad thing, and I'd like to talk a bit about how I'm thinking about it.
It's a strange thing, and I know A.I is creating waves in the art world. People are worried, and annoyed, it's learning from artists who already exist to create artwork that could detract from working artists career opportunities.
I don't think any of these things are untrue but I don't share their fear.
When digital art, particularly 3D art arrived, it caused huge upheavals, nearly all the 2D artists in the big industry jobs lost their jobs rapidly after 3D made it into the mainstream animation industry.
Absolutely A.I could do the same, but in that big change around in the past, people had to adapt to survive, 2D artists and animators became 3D artists and animators and found or kept jobs.
As for what A.I is taught on, yes, it uses huge quantities of other peoples art to learn what things look like and what styles look like, and yes, it's done with out the artists consent, but so is any artist learning from another artist. Generally when an artists is learning about styles and so on we're encouraged to make studies of other peoples work, even in mainstream education we're set tasks to make copies of great artists work, alive or dead. The only thing that's different here is there isn't a human on the end of the art. That is an issue to an extent. However it is still a valuable tool in terms of time saving if we learn to use it rapidly we can keep up with the industry standard and maybe even get ahead of the curve. Whether we like it or not, A.I is coming and it'll probably make its way into the industry, so I suspect, we're going to have to learn how to use it if we want to get into the big industry jobs.
If thats not your bag, thats totally fine, keep doing what you're doing, you don't need A.I and I think despite the doom sayers, people will always want art that was made from scratch by an artist, digital or otherwise. Just the same as while traditional art does have a competitor in digital art, people still really want a physical object they can hold, just the same as digital fans will still want a piece that an artist put hours into.
I'm not going to stop drawing normally, but I am really enjoying working on top of A.I creations, my process isn't random or necessarily easy, I don't just pick what ever it throws at me and work on it as I do have a set idea of what I want, I fight with the the thing to get an outcome I really like before starting work on it. I'm chuffed with what I can create with it and the speed I can make them at means that I have time to work on personal ideas along side my commissions, and in terms of mental health, that is a huge thing for me. I feel A.I will be my pal who I can collab with any time, I Still love sketching and drawing from scratch too, but when time is so short and my lil (possibly) ADHD brain needs a win just so I can hang on by my fingernails to my love of art, I think it'll probably be something I play with just to give me a little "YEH that looks cool" boost of dopamine just to give me the fuel to keep drawing. Maybe I'll even take it beyond that, who knows. Maybe I'll take commissions with it, I would like to get into art in some industry, maybe this'll be the entry way. A.I is going to need creatives to work it, we all have had clients who really can't accurately describe what they want, and thats ok, not everyone has the words or maybe they haven't built up a creative library, so not everyones going to be able to work an A.I. But this does give people who have the words but not the skills in art to create images that make them happy and serve their purpose, and thats great in my opinion, not everyone can afford 100s or 1000s of moneys worth of art and my hate for capitalism means that seeing people happy with their slightly fever dream lookin' picture makes me happy.
Yeah we're going to have to find a way to survive in the next generation of art technology but, I think going with the flow yields better results than rallying against progress in terms of art tools. Ultimately though, do what makes you happy and I hope you will always find there is work for you, I hope that A.I helps all artists, rather than trashing half of them as 3D animation did to 2D animators.
One thing I hope will become common place will be being HONEST about how the artwork was made, the world is full of dishonest people and I think while there's value in all art, just selling a straight up unedited A.I generation does make me sigh a little. Not to say wrangling an A.I to create something you like is easy, but I DO worry people will be out there claiming they painted every line when they didn't. A.I generated art does have a look about it but that will fade as A.I learns more and I feel to sell an A.I piece as a fully painted piece would be very dishonest. I'd feel the same as a digital piece being sold as a traditional piece once printed on canvas.
However, MORE dishonest folks exist, people who take other peoples art, claim they did it, then make half arsed works on Fiverr. I feel these people are a greater problem than people using A.I to their benefit.
Thats my 2 pence on this anyway. Of course you don't have to agree, I'd love to hear what you have to say even, perhaps there's an angle I haven't viewed that will change my opinion entirely, I can't imagine so, it's here and its going to get picked up by the industry, art is going to change, but every piece of tech changes it, I don't think art and artists will ever fade away for good.
If you want to see the comparisons between what I create vs what I pulled out of midjourney I'll be posting them to my artstation https://www.artstation.com/oliviatuppen otherwise the finished pieces will be all uploaded here, I'll probably link to the art station uploads of each of them if I remember to, but, (possible) ADHD is a beech.
Take care and look after your mental health in these times, a lots changing, far bigger scarier things than this in some cases, a lot of tensions are running high and sometimes its good to step away just too sooth the mind.
Much loves to you all.
