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Further on AI art
3 years ago
What if Trees could think...
I just got alerted that AI art is banned on here, could have done with a slightly bigger official alert there but never mind XD So my gallery is now AI art free, I'll still probably be doing it here and there, I don't really agree with the sentiment that AI art is anymore derivative than a human artist learning to draw, I was literally told to copy as exactly as possibly some of the old masters work or even some of my favourite artists who are still alive during my collage education. We're all trained on other peoples work and ultimately our work as a result becomes quite derivative, perhaps even in a very similar way to AI.
The difference is, the AI isn't hiding anything so may include signatures, where as a human artist will omit that, some may even claim it as their own work while an AI is totally open generally about its usage.
Fair use I think would also cover how little of each artwork is used, it's trained on it, rather than directly taking two pieces and smooshing them. BUT each to their own, I'll abide by the rules of what ever site I happen to be using of course and no shade to them, it's a reasonable course of action, although one I'm not sure anyone is going to be able to police easily. Folks just need to not say its AI and it'll slip right under the radar, an issue that'll only get worse as AI gets better.
I feel its going to disproportionately hit people who work in industries if bans like this become commonplace, much like 3D animation taking over from 2D and photobashing becoming far more common in concept art than fully hand drawn pieces, I think AI is going to become big in industries and people will probably need to show that they can use AI and create unique work with it for their portfolios for the future.
I do think its also a little short sighted, Photoshop and similar programs all have built in AI that do a variety of tasks, taking the load off the artist, we're a far cry from mixing our own paints, painting over mistakes, etc, in the digital world, with things like content aware fill/erase, inbetweening and so on AI is everywhere, so, perhaps that needs clarifying a little too, AI image generating software seems to be the issue, but AI is in everything these days.
I will say I'll always be completely honest about whether or not I used an AI image generator, I think that IS a really important thing and I really do dislike that people are posting things as if they did it with their own two hands, being honest is the best course of action, for the sake of people learning to do art and going "how the heck did they make that" often if you find yourself asking that, it may well be photobashing, or now, AI image generation.
With that in mind if you are at all interested in what I do with AI, you'll be able to see it on Twitter and Artstation.
https://twitter.com/Olivitree
https://www.artstation.com/oliviatuppen
And if you'd like to get your own paint overs, I am taking commissions on them. They're a quicker cheaper option if you haven't got the cash to splash on a huge piece of work, but also you have FAR less control over the outcome, which is why its a cheaper option. you can grab that via kofi or trello, or you can get a standard commission that is all artist, no AI image generators.
https://ko-fi.com/olivitree/commissions
But, yeah, AI free zone, so now you know where those pieces disappeared to :D
The difference is, the AI isn't hiding anything so may include signatures, where as a human artist will omit that, some may even claim it as their own work while an AI is totally open generally about its usage.
Fair use I think would also cover how little of each artwork is used, it's trained on it, rather than directly taking two pieces and smooshing them. BUT each to their own, I'll abide by the rules of what ever site I happen to be using of course and no shade to them, it's a reasonable course of action, although one I'm not sure anyone is going to be able to police easily. Folks just need to not say its AI and it'll slip right under the radar, an issue that'll only get worse as AI gets better.
I feel its going to disproportionately hit people who work in industries if bans like this become commonplace, much like 3D animation taking over from 2D and photobashing becoming far more common in concept art than fully hand drawn pieces, I think AI is going to become big in industries and people will probably need to show that they can use AI and create unique work with it for their portfolios for the future.
I do think its also a little short sighted, Photoshop and similar programs all have built in AI that do a variety of tasks, taking the load off the artist, we're a far cry from mixing our own paints, painting over mistakes, etc, in the digital world, with things like content aware fill/erase, inbetweening and so on AI is everywhere, so, perhaps that needs clarifying a little too, AI image generating software seems to be the issue, but AI is in everything these days.
I will say I'll always be completely honest about whether or not I used an AI image generator, I think that IS a really important thing and I really do dislike that people are posting things as if they did it with their own two hands, being honest is the best course of action, for the sake of people learning to do art and going "how the heck did they make that" often if you find yourself asking that, it may well be photobashing, or now, AI image generation.
With that in mind if you are at all interested in what I do with AI, you'll be able to see it on Twitter and Artstation.
https://twitter.com/Olivitree
https://www.artstation.com/oliviatuppen
And if you'd like to get your own paint overs, I am taking commissions on them. They're a quicker cheaper option if you haven't got the cash to splash on a huge piece of work, but also you have FAR less control over the outcome, which is why its a cheaper option. you can grab that via kofi or trello, or you can get a standard commission that is all artist, no AI image generators.
https://ko-fi.com/olivitree/commissions
But, yeah, AI free zone, so now you know where those pieces disappeared to :D
An article was linked which gives a good example of the trouble all this can cause:
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/a.....rators-2178352
I also think a technical argument may be at play. Furaffinity is an individual site without huge financing. These AI images can be easily churned out by the dozen so I imagine they could strain the website's storage space if people started using them indiscriminately.
Generally the bigger AI generators don't just mash multiple images together it actually builds a completely new image from the ground up but tailors it based on the input, and what it knows about what things look like.
The problem is, its a machine, and it makes images easier to create, and people are scared for their livelihoods, a fair fear as 3D animation spelled the death of 2D animation, 2D animators are now few and far between and job opportunities are very sparse for them.
AI image generation could indeed change jobs and maybe result in people losing jobs if they don't adjust to whats coming as many 2D animators didn't when 3D animation rolled in.
Technology can absolutely spell doom for a lot of folks and thats fair to stand with them.
Certainly its a statement, but not one thats going to change whats coming, I really don't see how it can be stopped at this point, there's no legal grounds really, I believe it would likely come under transformative use but we'll have to see no doubt a court case will arise at some point and we'll find out how it swings.
As for the technical argument, that's pretty valid in itself as yes it can churn out a lot, although I'm not sure the site would struggle even then with the size upload limit and the timer, but quite plausible.