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Our Lizard Overlords are pedos.
3 years ago
My Politics and Social views are ideas that I believe work. If something does not work I call it out.
It's pretty obvious that some people want desperately to sexualize children. We live in a period of time where we don't have to hurt anyone with our sexuality. There doesn't have to be disease or abortions. We can be proud of our responsibility and our care for one another. Or we can raise children to have lives where their sexuality is destructive.
Conservatism when taken too far will often create a life of unnecessary misery. As a Ex-Catholic I have seen a lot of that.
However, Leftists sexual hedonism will destroy sexuality all that much quicker.
TAKING CHILDREN TO DRAG SHOWS IS PEDOPHILE GROOMING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCV8SgVrm6E
Pedophiles don't just whip it out, they groom the children first. Teachers are teaching sexuality to children who haven't even developed any sexuality yet. Now we have a fashion line producing sexual images with children.
Of course they are!
They are already taking children to drag shows!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGBoppe3ZqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6DpaltvAV0
Now I have pursued many stories of child abuse. Numerous stories of child predators from the lone predator, to falsely accused and to institutions like the Catholic Church.
And then there was Jeffrey Epstein. Any people singled out from that raid on his island?
Of course not. Because if one went down you bet they would take a few with them.
Now, I can tell you it's a natural human reaction to look away from this kind of evil. So, you now have a choice to either embrace reality or turn away.
BTW Thank you Elon Musk for cleaning up the pedo crap off of Twitter.
Conservatism when taken too far will often create a life of unnecessary misery. As a Ex-Catholic I have seen a lot of that.
However, Leftists sexual hedonism will destroy sexuality all that much quicker.
TAKING CHILDREN TO DRAG SHOWS IS PEDOPHILE GROOMING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCV8SgVrm6E
Pedophiles don't just whip it out, they groom the children first. Teachers are teaching sexuality to children who haven't even developed any sexuality yet. Now we have a fashion line producing sexual images with children.
Of course they are!
They are already taking children to drag shows!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGBoppe3ZqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6DpaltvAV0
Now I have pursued many stories of child abuse. Numerous stories of child predators from the lone predator, to falsely accused and to institutions like the Catholic Church.
And then there was Jeffrey Epstein. Any people singled out from that raid on his island?
Of course not. Because if one went down you bet they would take a few with them.
Now, I can tell you it's a natural human reaction to look away from this kind of evil. So, you now have a choice to either embrace reality or turn away.
BTW Thank you Elon Musk for cleaning up the pedo crap off of Twitter.
Since the word WET is defined as being saturated with a substance, it is impossible for water to be wet. Water can saturate things and can also be saturated by other substances, but it is impossible for it to be wet.
If I have a dry towel that I soak up a spilled glass of water with, the dry towel becomes wet.
If i have a glass half full of water, then add more water, it does not become more wet. its still water.
But, to be fair, this is a discussion of semantics.
I'm still very against trans people, and anyone else for that matter, grooming children.
Yeah. I'm gonna need a source from a reputable website. This seems like right wing racism to me.
They are so empowered that they can destroy men's careers, reputations, lives and families--and even send them to prison--with a single, demonstrably false accusation. While I was a youth mentor, I saw this happen more than a few times and the women are perfectly happy to ruin men, often for capricious reasons. Some of them wield it openly, aware that they have that power. And an uncomfortable percentage of those same women tossed their kids' well-being aside for cigarettes, booze, or male attention.
Say any of this out loud, and the only response is "It's wrong to blame women for XYZ!" Women have been protected from accountability for decades now--and have you noticed the problems never go away? That, with each progressive generation, they get worse?
The six-figure pedos would have nothing and no one, if not for the willing and enthusiastic support of their suppliers. But America is not ready to have that conversation.
The six-figure pedos would have nothing and no one, if not for the willing and enthusiastic support of their suppliers. But America is not ready to have that conversation.
Yeah, they're the real threat.
If you take them seriously, the joke's on you.
There has been so much more true evil done in the name of Christianity, for instance, that Satanists aren't even on the map.
I would also say that by your unquestioning repetition of all of this poisonous far right propaganda you are, in fact, worshiping an ACTUAL absolute evil.
Satanism is more-or-less the absolute mockery of Religion as a whole.
Lucifarians are the ones who tend to worship the goat-headed god, sacrificing blood (especially the innocent blood of children) to the alter on the promise of power. :)
I don't see any of your claims here as being based in fact. I'm not afraid to criticize anyone or anything as long as there are facts to back up the argument. I don't think the society in general is, either.
And rules are often BS. If you accept them without question, that's a fascist attitude right there.
Congratulations that the media is still supporting pedos!
I've never seen a scrap of evidence that "The media" supports pedos.
Bet you can't show me even one that isn't a lie that comes from far right propagandists. That's only a lie cynically pushed by them.
And that's nothing to condemn "The media" about. It's their responsibility to base what they say on verifiable evidence and facts.
And all of that is a distraction from the truth: It's almost never strangers who abuse kids. It's almost always family members or close acquaintances.
'Lady Justice' (there's another one o' them pesky females!), is supposed to be 'Blind' to ensure facts/proof are the only things 'Judged.'
We all know this isn't the case, IRL.
Because Musky believes in "Free speech".
I'd be extremely dubious about a statement like "Antifa posts kiddy porn". For one thing, it just doesn't make any sense. That's not what they're concerned with, and I don't see why that would happen. I'd be much more inclined to guess that anything like that was done by fascists in an effort to discredit them. Any proof or examples?
Beyond that, the only people that antifa is a threat to are fascists, who actually engage in widespread and random violence. Fascists deserve pushback, even if it's violent. It's defensive, not offensive.
people like you that defend that terrorist group's violence are exactly the types of people being banned on Twitter, cuz you're doing nothing but inciting further violence. its a shame Musk hasn't bought FA and taken the same approach here.
I haven't seen the proof. I'd be happy to if anybody's got any.
The proof of the right wing lies is just a Google search away, though.
That one said it was not true that the World Economic Forum had said "We will own nothing and we will be happy", and then when I provided undeniable proof on the World Economic Forum's very own website, the mindless leftist immediately screamed that it was a "right wing conspiracy!!" And you would just do the same.
And since you like Google searching so much, why don't you search for proof of the left-wing conspiracies? Oh wait, you would just ignore and dismiss anything that went against your world view because heaven forbid anything proves you wrong.
Well that was hard!
You continue to prove my points.
I guarantee that in the next 5-10 years you will start to see the anti-pedophilia laws quietly disappear. We need a campaign of daylight, fire and bleach to get this under control. And the campaign has to be against the very people who are in control.
case and point: Bugs Bunny, Monty Python, Hogan's Heroes and a plethora of other shows and cartoons that feature men or male characters dressing up in drag and there was nothing sexual about it. unless you're some kind of weirdo anyways that gets off from watching Monty Python in drag...
of course drag shows can be sexual but so can washing your car. shall we all stop collectively washing our cars too now, just for the faint chance that somebody decides to do a sexy car wash?
ridiculous...
and very disturbing because this very exact rhetoric that you're spreading in this journal, Alex, this exact same rhetoric and argumentation, is why a guy walked into a gay bar and shot 5 people with the intention of shooting even more, with some folks like your oh so beloved icon Tim Pool making comments like "well, they were gonna have a drag show the next day" to heavily imply that they had it coming.
fucking disgusting...
this rhetoric that you are actively help spreading is inciting violence and killing people
you're a disgrace to the furry community
shame on you
just out of curiosity
have you ever been to one of those drag shows for kids yourself to see what they are actually like?
Bravo!
This all just feeds homophobia, transphobia, as well as bigotry and prejudice in general. It's part of an extremely cynical and destructive extreme right wing and Christo-fascist plan to gin up fear and hate, and build a base. It's not based in any reality.
It causes real world harm to gay and trans people through stochastic terrorism. It's hateful and disgusting.
I'm asking you if you've ever been to one of them invite your kids PG drag shows for yourself and seen with your own two eyes what's going there.
have you or have you not?
You're not supposed to take your children to a drag show to sexualize things!
That's child abuse and people think that's normal?
Also, didn't they find out the shooter who shot up that gay bar said he was non-binary to avoid hate crime charges? Sounds to me the person was some hater who was gay because he got spurned by another gay guy.
I won't call you a disgrace but this is a bit much.
Merry Christmas to you.
I'm asking 'cause you can sexualize the hell out of washing your car, with your infamous skimpy dressed sexy bikini car washes that are going on every once in a while but that doesn't automatically make every car wash sexual now, does it?
same thing with drag shows
also yeah, the guy claims to be non-binary now to avoid charges now that he's facing trial for a hate crime. he isn't the first thing to try something like that. there's been a lot of criminal cases where a perfectly sane criminal pleaded insanity in an attempt to avoid charges or gain a lighter sentence. its called lying.
An interview with an acquaintance of his had them claiming that he frequently used homophobic and racist language. I'm sure we'll find out more as this goes on.
Colorado gay club shooter identifies as "non-binary" and used pronouns "they/them" as far back as 2016.
https://apnews.com/article/crime-sh.....a9e6146c7b42aa
Them also hated they's conservative father.
Always interesting when you wait a few days to find out what the real story is before believing all the biased crap that suddenly vanished from mainstream news when it was found out the shooter wasn't the right-winger they wish them was.
this does not, however, invalidate my other arguments, which are: drag shows are not inherently sexual and rhetoric like displayed by Alex is inciting violence.
Really?
I mean seriously, that is so far out of reach that I must believe you are doing parody. If I sneeze, is that inciting violence because I want to blow my nose?
I just don't understand the extremism mindset that you hold.
earlier this year, sometime in summer if i remember correctly, a drag show was being held in a gay bar in Dallas Texas which invited parents and their children to attend if they wanted. protesters outside the bar have been reported hurling transphobic and homophobic slurs, with some supposedly demanding police to storm the gay bar and execute the people inside with bullets to the head.
what Alex is doing in his journals is actively supporting and spreading an extremist narrative which aims to demonize and dehumanize the LGBTQ. considering how much you americans love guns, violence and bloodshed, it is only a matter of time until members of the LGBTQ community are specifically targeted and victimized. well, even more so than it is already, I mean... that is of course, if it hasn't happened already with the Colorado Springs shooting but we'll have to wait for the conclusion of the trial to be sure of that.
Rather odd how complaints about child grooming keeps being labeled “homophobic.”
could you clarify to me what your definition of "child grooming" is.
what is "child grooming" to you? what do you consider "child grooming" and what do you not consider "child grooming" ?
I would like to ask you to clarify as well what you consider child grooming and why.
like, what would need to happen and to be done for you to say "Oh yeah, that's totally child grooming"
I want to understand where you stand and where you're coming from so we can have a proper conversation.
if you're not interested to have a conversation though, that is fine too but please say it so we don't waste each others time.
They clearly promote violence with their rhetoric, just as you do by repeating it.
As far as your comments about Alex promoting violence, he hasn't done so. All the examples you list were by other people, not Alex. It would be irresponsible to judge or label Alex as promoting violence based on what other people do.
If you are going to judge and attack Alex, then do so on what he has actually done.
you can't go around, say things like "teaching kids about trans people/letting kids visit drag shows is grooming" and "somebody should do something about it" or imply that somebody should do something about it... and then wash your hands in innocence and say "I didn't do nothing, i have no responsibility" when somebody shoots up a gay bar.
sure, the blood isn't directly on Alex' hands but he helped spread a rhetoric that encouraged somebody to commit violence, so Alex' hands aren't exactly clean either.
You just made a claim and now it is up to you to back it up. Details. It is your honor and reputation on the line here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZrFXns3ptE
Sorry, you lost. No more cookies. I'm done here.
Everyone who does this is.
It clearly harms people.
while the exact definition has morphed over time, it has commonly come to refer to a concept whereby consistently demonizing or dehumanizing a targeted group or individual results in violence that is statistically likely, but cannot be easily accurately predicted.
linking the LGBTQ and drag shows to child grooming is doing exactly that. if you disagree, you are more than welcome to thoroughly explain yourself just like i am thoroughly explaining myself to you.
anyways...
I obviously do realize that Alex didn't come up with the rhetoric that he is frequently spreading in his journals, but him parroting and sharing this rhetoric isn't making any better either. which means that he has a partial responsibility.
Look it up.
Who is making people hate gay and trans people? Who is whipping up this hate with lies and spreading them?
Maybe once you are less reactionary and more open minded will be a better opportunity to discuss things. Right now is not a good time for you.
My mind isn't going to change on this, no matter how you might wish to dismiss me as being an irrational hothead. It's not as if I haven't thought this through or assessed the facts. I come to this discussion calmly, and armed with facts.
Just what "Other side" of this discussion is there? Don't worry, I'll answer that: Hate and lies.
And your argument here is immoral, a well as dead wrong. This type of propaganda is ignorant, stokes fear in LGBTQ+ people, encourages hate and bullying, and costs people their lives.
Shame those sort that resort to violence fail to realize they are just going to turn them into martyrs. My fight with them is in the political arena where it belongs.
But yeah just because someone may take matters into their own hands is no justification for silencing criticism. I recommend they exercise their 2nd Amendment rights to defend themselves from someone looking to do them bodily harm.
But some may need a reminder that words are not violence nor justification to use lethal force.
He's also reportedly frequently used homophobic and racist language.
Time will tell, though. We don't have much but his actions to go on yet, and those are pretty damning.
As this is now a gay on gay crime now, the liberal media dropped that story hard core, and that says a lot about their agenda.
P.S.: the trial is far from over so we don't know for sure if the whole non-binary thing is actually true or if its just a tactic suggested by the lawyer to try and drop the hate crime charges. wouldn't be the first time that a perfectly sane crook tries to plead insanity for a lesser sentence... we'll find out after the trial.
but hey, good to know where your priorities are in all this. who cares if 5 people are dead as long as the liberal media and their agenda is wrong, eh?
From your comments, you have zero interest in the opinions of others if they are not 100% in your own alignment and since you didn't bother to find out, you lose any chance to understand.
Respect is earned, not given, and right now you are at -35000%.
That is called hypocrisy, something you are very well known for.
You may want to avoid mirrors for fear of seeing yourself.
I repeatedly said that we have yet to see what the outcome and truth are.
I am dropping this. Don't bother replying.
You're the one who refuses to acknowledge what I actually said and calls me a hypocrite. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
Gay and trans people, let alone drag queens or schoolteachers, are no threat to children.
for one thing, by spreading this lying propaganda you show a complete ignorance of the difference between gender and sexuality. There's nothing inherently sexual in gender play. As a matter of fact, it's something that kids frequently engage in without the interference or encouragement of outsiders. It's a natural thing.
I've been to a couple of drag shows. They were fun. They were pg at most, and not sexual. And I would have been unafraid to bring kids to them. Kids can see far more sexualized content around them every day. It's usually hetero, and that's not destroying them. You know what DOES harm them? Puritanical and bigoted views of sexuality.
All of this "Grooming" crap is absolute Bullshit. Gay or trans people, and especially drag queens, are not abusing kids at any higher rate than any other group of the population. Probably even less. Drag shows or drag story times are not about sex, and they're certainly not "Grooming". You are the one who's denying reality.
Have you ever been to a drag show or seen a drag story time? It certainly doesn't seem like it.
Teachers teaching kids about sex is not sexualizing them. Kids need to learn about sex. it's a fact of life. There's nothing wrong with sex, it's a good thing. Kids aren't stupid, don't treat them that way. It's taught in age appropriate ways, through commonly accepted curriculum, and this has been done for decades. Part of this education helps to protect kids from abuse and predators.
Kids live in the real world, unlike people who suck up and spew this propaganda like you do.
You know who DOES abuse kids, Alex? People in their own families and acquaintances, usually straight.
Would you allow full body rubber dog boys in gimp suits to play with 5 year old children?
It is the same thing. If you are okay with the drag queen aspect, then you have to be okay with full BDSM displays interacting with children.
I just don't believe any sexual fetish is appropriate around children.
say, did you watch Bugs Bunny cartoons growing up? I did... a lot of them actually... lots of them feature Bugs putting on drag when he's dealing with Yosemite Sam, Elmer Fudd, etc. was there anything sexual about that? I don't think so...
come to think of it, have you ever been to one of them PG rated drag shows that is for kids? I mean, that would be the easiest way to figure out if the whole grooming thing is actually true or not, yes? just going there and seeing one for yourself? just food for thought.
Bugs Bunny in drag has been shut down and banned by the left. So that one is on you.
Are you familiar with the term PG and what it means? Your comment shows a total ignorance, so I have to let that one slide until you look it up.
its just like our own community, you know. some folks will tell you being a furry is all about the sexual thrill of dressing up in a fursuit. but i think you know as well as I do that this is not all what being a furry is all about. its not even all what a fursuiter is about...
to answer your question: PG stands for Parental Guidance. which means that it can be watched by kids under parental supervision. provided the parents agree to this, of course.
you haven't answered my question though. have you ever been to one of those supposed drag shows that are open for kids or were kids are invited to and have you seen what's going on there with your own two eyes? a simple yes or no would suffice.
no, you have not.
where are the police reports? where are the arrest reports? where are the trials and convictions?
a couple months ago, a gay bar in Dallas Texas held a family friendly drag show. nobody was forced to attend, attendance was voluntary. police was on the scene and they kept protesters screaming "grooming" like yourself out of the gay bar, while the show inside the bar was being held.
police was on the scene, dude
don't you think that, if there really was any child grooming going on in the gay bar, the cops would have raided the place and made arrests?
or are you going to shift the goalpost again and say some nonsense like "the cops were in on it" or some other conspiracy?
I guess you’re for showing kids porn!
I would not be surprised if they turned out to be a front for child trafficking. They are quite clearly being dressed up on a sexualized standard of beauty.
Alas its not against the law either and the FBI to my knowledge has not raided one to date in spite of pedophiles being there.
as for the "showing kids porn" thing...
dude, every kid nowadays has access to the internet. they're looking up porn themselves.
They both need to go.
would you be willing to go and visit one of these drag shows, see with your own eyes what's going on and what happens there?
The hell it has.
I don't think you understand the difference. This isn't uncommon though. Many people don't. I'd suggest looking into it.
It's never too late to learn, though. Do some research.
So yes, I have looked into it. Like you, I didn't see any sexual connection, but learned that was quite far from the truth.
That's not to say that it couldn't be a fetish for some, but that has nothing to do with people performing at live drag events.
I call BS.
Experiences will vary.
You can call it BS, but then what you believe has no relevance.
The people grooming them via sexual content like the dick matching game and cartoony storybooks involving gay/lesbian/trans sex I get the vibe its more about promoting LGBT and flat out encouraging it.
I mean you see the teachers who come out in favor of this stuff and none of them seem rational and more like angry in your face activists. I have had Progressive teachers and they were nothing like this nor were our classrooms decked out in far-left political symbols.
This is straight up indoctrination happening.
To me that is where the grooming does come into play by promoting this lifestyle on impressionable minds. I feel it is a multifaceted issue as to why it's done. Fear of the past which is understandable.
Another though is power. Manufacture LGBT people by praising the lifestyle and showing it in nothing but a positive light on impressionable minds you can coax more into trying it. Seems more focused on the trans as of late though. But what makes it a power grab is if you are LGBT you are expected to vote Democrat and agree 100% with them ideologically. Proof of this is how they will typically treat LGBT folks who go conservative. Caitlyn Jenner a prominent example.
For me anyway I don't think people who crave acceptence who cannot even accept themselves should be in a position to influence children.
I am content with leaving drag queens in the realm of adult entertainment. But that grooming has been going on a while now and there are drag queen shows involving kids themselves. Was on the Discovery Channel. Absolutely grotesque just like those beauty pageants.
Plus FFS, you have a lovely habit of dragging out the defenders, and putting yourself at risk as well.
Plus Twitter is still a dumpster fire, though Mastodon is likely next massive verbal spew fire with all the extremists running there.
Oh, and Twitter was already a dumpster fire, Elon is just pouring on the rocket fuel...
While I wouldn't personally agree with banning people for those reasons, people can obviously find other servers. No point in complaining. From what I hear, most of the servers are left leaning, with various levels of nuance.
An society does that as a whole, this just sounds like it's a specific factor...like the "GAY agenda" (I didn't know they had one)
Pedophilia however? I'm against it. And I do NOT think teaching kids sexuality when they haven't hit puberty yet is something they need.
That's on their parents!
Epstein was silenced because he was going to bring down several millionaires/billionaires. Left and right, were going to be exposed so he had an "accident"
I tried watching the videos you posted Alex. I couldn't, I've got a migraine and it's hard to focus. Yeah the toys with really WRONG kind of clothing, I get was a mistake
an yeah. That's not appropriate to children.
Sort of understand where you're coming from, an don't
https://www.theflstandard.com/jacks.....scrotum-types/
You're also assuming the story as it was reported is accurate.
Even if this was the case, everyone there was probably either gay or okay with that. Silly cartoons of dicks and balls are hardly likely to "Corrupt" anyone, and if anyone there was hitting on kids, there are already really strict laws against that.
They refuse to take the L on this one.
Your connecting gay or trans people, or drag queens and teachers, with child abuse just ignores the facts, and is extremely offensive, disrespectful, and dangerous.
Go back and read my main response to you: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal...../#cid:59585549
Its definitely not a left vs right issue at this point. I mean other trans folks have been coming out of the woodwork opposing it as well.
So they even have other LGBT telling them this is the line not to cross.
It takes actual reason to reason with someone. Something that Lex has been able to do, unlike you.
You don't seem to know what that is.
Ageist scum. You can't even answer a simple question.
You continue to make a fool of yourself. You're a joke.
You really can't do better than a lameass attempt at insults, can you?
That's the best you can do? What, are you like four years old?
You make it abundantly clear that you couldn't find a fact to back up a single thing you've said on this journal to save your worthless life.
You couldn't argue your way out of a wet paper bag, so you attempt to resort to insults, and you can't even do that well.
You're an ignorant, clueless twit, and you just make that more obvious with each additional post you make here.
Your comprehension of anything is seriously in question at this point.
Hopefully you won't though. The world is much better off without ignorant and hateful little piggies like you.
If it were the case that doctors were only doing this for the money, doctors would be undergoing nonstop malpractice suits. It just makes no sense. That's just a completely BS claim.
These procedures are universally recognized by every major Psychological and medical organization in the country to be best practice for those who decide to undergo them. And the trans people who choose to undergo them, -and many end up choosing not to- are overwhelmingly happy about the decision after doing so.
You would do well to listen to the scientists and trans people who are actually involved as opposed to a bunch of slimy propagandists who obviously couldn't give a shit about these people's lives and happiness.
Politicians and bigots have absolutely no business inserting themselves into the lives and medical decisions of anybody.
And just why the fuck do you think that any of this is any of your business at all? You obviously know absolutely nothing about it.
It comes across as particularly ignorant of the documented facts, as well as hypocritical.
I don't see it as "Pushing" something, particularly not anything sinister.
In my day we had sex ed starting at 6th grade. Required a parental permission slip and covered only the basics. It did not promote anything other than abstenence and we were informed gay people exist and the risks associated with anal sex.
Supposedly at the time sexually active kids were doing it in the butt to avoid pregnancy and injuries were happening frequently in our area so they did discourage it. Plus it was during the AIDS epidemic. They were correct to do so.
In any event even then we didn't have books in the library depicting sex. Believe me I looked. Lol But seeing this through the lens of an adult yeah.. in spite of the fact kids can access it with ease online there is simply no reason for the state to make it any easier via school libraries.
I'm happy to say in my town we did manage to elect people onto the schoolboard who share our view on the matter.
As a former Xtian who was deposited into that 'School/Theology' of indoctrination from Kindergarten to 8th Grade (when I took active measures to guarantee I wouldn't be entering H.S. under this particular 'Faith', much-less any college of the same!).
Seeing what the Catholic 'Leaders' have done with the rampant child sexual abuse from their 'Flock' (removing the Pedophiles and relocating them to re-offend/harm yet more children elsewhere)?
Seeing how grandiose the 'Pope' and his Kingdom (The Vatican) live/exist, while there is so very much need around the world, all under their 'Watch'?).
As someone who has bounced around quite a bit in my younger years (Demo, Repub., 'Left/Right/Center,' etc., I like to think I've done my level best to keep an open mind about practically anything, at least at first presentation. Then I start digging into the facts and applying common sense, and that's where most of said 'Things' camouflage begins to melt away and the true agenda(s) are exposed.
So, yeah.
Now I'm mostly a very 'Jaded' person about almost everything. I'll still listen to peeps 'On the other side' just to see/hear what they're presenting, but I no longer do so with the intent of learning anything new that has any value. That Olde Saying, 'Burn me once,,,' comes to mind, and I'm no longer willing to reach into any of their various fires just to enjoy the experience again.
It's truly sad that 'They' are pursuing their agendas with such vitriol. I personally don't care if anyone is 'Trans/Bi/Other'. What adults chose to do with themselves is their own business, and more power to them!
When children are used as pawns, by anyone/group? Hell. No.
My last anchor throughout all of this maelstrom of stupidity is that, hopefully, society will pull its collective head out of its collective lower colon, realize the evil that's been going on and stop it dead in its tracks, before too much (more) damage is done?
I'm saddened that it's taking so long, and so much said damage is being done, still.
As LGBT we are expected to vote Democrat, as noted by the sheer hate that those on the left will do in regards to LGBT who don't toe the line. The more LGBT, the more power they have to quash conservative policies. Except after winning the last culture war it didn't stop at equality. It became a movement to enforce their views onto others under the guise of equality...or equity as they say nowadays. Compelled speech and legislated respect is really what it has become. Now it is delving into promoting the LGBT lifestyle at a young age, not just saying we exist. Pretty much reasons why I left the party. It has become a sort of cult I'm afraid.
It is terrible seeing them use outdated gender stereotypes to gaslight kids onto thinking they are trans and setting them up to be lifetime patients.
The detransers, who are growing exponentially in number, are proving that the affirmation only approach is not the correct one.
That is why they are seething with rage that we are working to put a stop to it and as expected proponents for it resort to ad hominen based arguments.
A line was crossed in regards to the kids. I'm ok with not normalizing childen being subjected to crossdressing clowns grooming kids to glamorize what is basically people who cannot even accept themselves without dressing up as a chariacature of what they think a woman looks like.
It is no wonder why the East is doubling down because they are seeing just how far that rabbit hole we have gone...and it's bad beyond belief.
Dunno what world you live in, but it ain't the real one...
do yourself a favor and dont look up FA's Twitter page...it made me want to retch
though many of these communities view us furries as freaks who demand litter boxes in schools...
Just what I'd expect from someone who says stupid shit like
"They pretty much want to turn kids into future pedos, groomers, mentally ill people, degenerates, sexual deviants, zoophiles(let's be honest, most pedos are zoophiles) felons, etc."
Buzzwords? All you've got is poisonous right wing lies.
And yeah, I'm an anarchist, probably your worst nightmare.
And I am indeed in favor of social justice, loser.
What you've said on this journal has told me more than enough about who you are.
Your assuming that I live in San Francisco just emphasizes your ignorance. The Bay Area is a pretty big place.
I'm not personally crazy about the Democrats, but they beat the hell out of the Republicans any day.
And the best you've got seems to be extreme right wing lies and feeble insults. You're a clueless bore, and a tool of fascists. Sod off.
Pathetic.
And back to the snipe and block again. *smh*
If you're not right wing, how come you parrot their lies? What you say disproves any claim to the contrary.
You sniped and blocked me, pretty cowardly, I'd say.
Sounds like you're the one who's seething. Feel free to keep it up. It's pretty amusing watching you dig your hole.
Have a lovely day, sweetie.
now obviously, being a furry myself, i'm not going to judge you for your fetishes and kinks, it would be hypocritical...
but you might want to keep in mind that you don't sit on the high horse.
there's a lot more people who'd say "i've seen your FA, you're no shining example of mental health yourself" than there is people who'd agree with you on trans folk.
our interest in furry porn is not something that will result in us mutilating our bodies in order to become more like our furry characters. its just a fetish rather than a mental illness when you draw the line at that distinction. once you start taking real world actions in order to transform yourself into something you biologically aren't (based on your sexual fetish) then its not acceptable and we dont need to be role-playing with these people that it is. i cant think of a more cruel and disrespectful thing to do to the mentally ill.
and clearly the high suicide rates, high levels of drug abuse, etc, among people with gender dysphoria clearly point to the fact that being allowed to mutilate their bodies in order to pursue a fantasy that will NEVER be fact isn't doing them much good. they need professional help, they need to be taught that its OK to be what you were born as. i dont understand why having this attitude towards gender dysphoria is somehow oppression and/or a form of phobia now
Homosexuality was considered a mental illness not that long ago. The term hysteria was created and foisted on women. It was acceptable to sterilize women who were considered to be "Mentally deficient". It was okay to experiment on black people for medical research. Should we still be doing those things?
And mutilation? What about circumcision, or operating on children born with intersex genitalia? They don't even have an opportunity to choose.
Gender affirmation surgery is commonly recognized as best practice for people that decide that it's the best thing for them by every single reputable psychological and medical organization in the country. No one enters into this lightly or is pushed into it by anybody. It takes years of consultation and therapy before anyone has any surgery, assuming that they even choose to.
You choose to believe cynical right wing propaganda over science and the Trans people themselves, who are the ones who actually understand the subject and are affected. Why do you care? It doesn't affect you, and it's none of your Goddam business.
Politics and people who don't understand this have no right to insert themselves between the scientists and trans people who actually understand the issue. Butt the fuck out.
Dysmorphia was NEVER a mental illness. Countless societies around the world have accepted trans and non binary people for millennia. It's only puritanical Christians and those in society here influenced by them that have found this to be a problem.
You make it abundantly clear that you haven't a clue about the realities of this. It's NOT a fetish. People are born this way.
And it's people like you and Alex as well as the propagandists that drive the depression, deaths, hate, murders, rapes and suicides of trans people with your ignorance and demonization of them by pushing these lies.
The whole point is to affirm what people are ACTUALLY born as. Nobody can be turned trans, and nobody is indoctrinating anyone to be either. Nobody "Chooses" to be trans, any more than anybody chooses to be gay, or a straight male or female.
That's the be-all and end-all of the argument.
It's experts from all over the world, who have dedicated their lives to better humanity medically and psychologically and who are a lot smarter than either of us, who decided that gender dysphoria is not a mental illness based on extensive research.
You trust and listen to these same experts with any other health problem that you have.
You can trust them now.
Now they know better.
Do you also have an issue with these same experts deciding that homosexuality is not a mental illness or that depression and PTSD are now mental and health illnesses?
If the answer is no, what is the difference between these past decisions and the decision to no longer view gender dysphoria as a mental illness?
And yet he would dictate that their lives should be governed by his willful ignorance, in spite of it being none of his business.
Fascinated, and sad.
The cognitive dissonance is deep and wide.
none of those three are in the same category as gender dysphoria though, as far as im concerned (it doesn't belong on the LBG___ acronym) somebody can be attracted to people of the same sex despite our biological programming, or experience depression more often than normal, or have past trauma constantly intrude on daily thought...without the delusion that they are literally something other than what their body is. if a man with schizophrenia believes he's Queen Elizabeth, the "experts" call it delusion...yet when another man believes he's a female version of himself, according to the "experts" we call it neurotypical and venerate his choice to pursue a lie. nothing about this is positive to mental health, and the way the "experts" just ignore the accounts of people who decide to de-transition, or those that committed suicide at some point during "transition", is just a disgusting effort to ignore evidence that goes against their preconceptions.
which leads to the difference you ask about. the difference now, is that the experts you talk about make decisions based on politics rather than science, and take official stances based on what they feel will earn them more funding and/or avoid bad publicity, or violence from far-left terrorist groups like is often the case with anything racial or transgender related. i trust the experts when they make decisions based off decades of observation and non-biased analysis...rather than appealing to stances that are popular now but will more than likely become woefully outdated once a new current thing and/or sacred cow becomes popular.
honestly, its reasonable to assume just about any "expert" driven conclusion made after the year 2010 is purely subjective
Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are no longer listed as mental illnesses because that is what overwhelming majority of research conducted by psychiatrists and other doctors is pointing towards.
I'm sorry that this does not agree with your personal politics but science is about facts, not politics or feelings.
You are free to keep on holding onto your outdated beliefs but the research conducted by people who literally do nothing else but figure out how the human brain and mind work are disagreeing with your opinions.
Especially since they are primarily based on your political views instead of actual science.
so contrary to what you continue to say here, i actually do respect the science...and since this is an established fact, i should hope you respect it yourself, rather than disagree with all these much smarter experts you speak of to pursue a politically driven concept such as the normalization of gender dysmorphia. if no longer classifying that affliction as a mental illness ISN'T politically motivated, i'd love to see YOUR blind acceptance of these "experts" when their opinions change in a way that doesn't favor your political ideology.
this conversation is honestly really beginning to bore me, i dont know why you defend these seriously flawed and inaccurate beliefs that have been emerging from the modern trans movement (cuz again, its not true homosexuality and doesn't belong on the LGB acronym) i dont know who decided to crown them infallible, unquestionable, untouchable kings of the universe, but being critical (and accepting criticism) of some aspects of your own ideology is healthy and keeps it grounded in reality, rather than getting lost in ideological theory, or baseless intellectual masturbation. i would recommend taking this approach towards the LGBTQIA+ coalition, rather than mindlessly conforming to whatever they decide is socially acceptable next
You've made it more than obvious that you can't back up anything you say with facts, so you just resort to lameass insults.
I'm generally perfectly happy to let you make a fool of yourself in public.
I am purposefully bringing up the furry and aeromorph part to remind him that the people who's arguments he's parroting almost word for word are not his friends either and wouldn't be very welcoming to him or his interests.
which is something he might want to keep in mind and consider if he intends to continue aligning himself with them and alienating a fandom that, so far, has been very welcoming towards him.
by the way:
the same goes for you too.
sure, we give you shit because your opinions are garbage but hey, at least we don't give you shit because of your furry kinks. I'm not sure you realize how precious and valuable that is.
you're right about the parroting though, i didn't notice that all of the arguments you and sikfock666 have presented here are 100% original and exclusively your own. my mistake
ive gotten used to being a conservative on a mostly far-left platform. i dont comment on content i disagree with, i dont post political art (and while i do post political journals much like Alex does, i do this knowing they are much easier to ignore than visual art is) and i dont go out of my way to get into arguments with people who attack me for saying something THEY disagree with...but yet here we are >.< i dont know what compels you guys to seek out content you disagree with just so you can run your hyperbolic scripts, surly that doesn't make for a very happy experience here despite being in the political majority...
plus, anybody who wants a site that is politically homogeneous is not very secure in their own beliefs, its part of the reason i haven't left FA despite the site's open and seething hatred towards anybody right of Stalin. i like to think the direction here will change one of these days and become a little more balanced (or at least neutral again) but meh, thats probably me being naive
That being said, I don't know a lot of people on this site who are supportive of Stalin, so that argument seems strange to me.
You do realize that people like me telling you that your views and opinions are outdated garbage doesn't mean we like Stalin, right?
again, i dont mind being a conservative on a liberal site (well...the censorship by the administration does get annoying actually...) its liberals that need to come to terms with the fact that conservatives might also use sites they think are safe-spaces for far-left dogma. there are more conservative furries here than you would like to believe, not all of them are as easy to spot as people like me or Alexspastic are. i guarantee you, there are many hiding within your 7500 person watch list...
although...since the left wants to create this two tiered society...ive really given thought about making this right-leaning furry platform myself! if not right leaning, at least neutral like FA used to be...
Your responses are consistently brilliant and incisive.
Says the dude who consistently parrots almost nothing but right wing propaganda.
Never contacted you, did I?
Not projecting anything. Just pointing out what a coward you are for sniping and blocking, as well a what a crock of shit the stuff you say is.
And now you mention me, and that's not doing the same thing that I did? You're a clueless hypocrite.
This is similar to why I don't block people, (Or at least I've never felt like I had to. I would if someone was straight-up harassing me) as well as how I welcome people to challenge me or disagree with me. I believe in discussion, and I can take it as well as dish it out.
Oh, and I can see why you wouldn't want reports on your journals. This one especially.
I'm curious if you have anything to say about this.
Cause that seems to be a lot of collateral damage that is also affecting kids quite heavily to me. It feels hypocritical.
It seems more to me that the real goal is not to protect kids but to suppress and terrorize the LGBTQ through any means necessary.
Your thoughts on this?
That gay marriage is good for forming bonds.
I am 52 years old and when I was a kid, sexual abuse was met with violence. The priests got away with it because of religious blindness but most everyone else got the hammer!
You can try and make this a left verses right issue but I am telling you they don’t give a political fuck!
Have you noticed that it's not just drag shows that are being targeted with violence?
Take your pick.
Hate crimes are not the same as regular crimes like car jacking though, because the motivation is different.
Car jackings are motivated by greed. Hate crimes are motivated by bigotry or racism, agreed?
Do you approve and support this attack?
I used to think I was alone in my knowledge of the pedo elites. I was wrong.
https://lulz.net/furi/src/1670415764392.webm
Rhetoric such as what you promote in this journal literally encourages stochastic terrorism.
Look up the bomb threat and other threats recently made against Scott Wiener as yet another prime example.
Good JOB!!
Is there a reason why you didn't?
Your "Knowledge of the pedo elites" is paranoid conspiracy theory.
That doesn't constitute a widespread conspiracy. There's no proof of any such thing. It's all conspiracy theory, nebulous and unproven disinformation, and paranoiac fantasy.
There was all kinds of connections to Republicans and Democrats as well as Hollywood stars.
That's the difference between you and me. I am not going to spin because some truth makes my side look bad. When it comes to child abuse, fuck my side and anyone else's.
I don't have a side of this that I defend. I don't see there as being a "Side" to it. I look at it as it's own issue.
Property damage is a distraction from the actual issue of oppression and death at the hands of the police.
If you actually wish to prevent such uprisings, work against the abuse of force by the police and other agents of the state.
The guy who was crippled when they dropped a statue on his head?
All of the cases of serious injury and death that I can think of off the top of my head were either at the hands of police or right wing agitators, or in defense from them.
I don't recall hearing of the statue thing, assuming it's true, but that clearly sounds like an accident, not a murder.
You've proven to be particularly bad in regard to honest sources though, so I hesitate to get my hopes up. I find myself being particularly dubious about any claim you make for this reason. You don't do yourself any favors in the credibility department by so consistently reffing propagandists such as The Lotus Eaters or Libs Of Tik Tok as sources of your "Facts".
Happy to look at them and give a fair and honest appraisal, though.
Once again, I'll remind you that it would be a really good idea for you to look up a thing called media literacy or critical media literacy and practice it. It could greatly improve the accuracy and truthfulness of your information.
I suspect you're not really interested in that, though. You seem to prefer outrage and propaganda to facts.
The FBI is far from perfect, but saying something like that is ridiculous and objectively false.
Elon "Confirming" something is completely worthless, obviously. He's proving himself to be wrong about multiple things every day at this point.
Their more recent manipulative attempts to entrap Muslims into terrorist plots has been well documented, for instance.
Even more recently, on the same day that they went into Mar-a-Lago to collect stolen documents from Drumpf they executed armed raids, that included drones, against a black activist group at 5 AM, under the likely false or mistaken premise that this group had ties with Russia.
So the claim that they're some sort of "SS for the Dems" is clearly yet more of the paranoid fantasy and disinformation pushed by the extreme right.
A case such as the one in question, whatever their biases might be, is clearly EXACTLY the type of thing that they should actually be investigating. In a place such as this, It's more than likely that they'll be more competent, well resourced, and effective as well as less biased than local police might be likely to be.
That would explain your previous answer then.
Lotus Eaters On Bitchute.
The Lotus Eaters are bigoted Right Wing propagandists and not a reliable source on anything. Why do you keep thinking that they're a good reference?
Even when there is video evidence you wont accept it.
Find me a legitimate source. I'll be happy to look at it. Or sources regarding those thirty people you claim were killed by George Floyd protestors, for that matter.
And video stuff can be fake, out of context, doctored, etc., as well, you know. That's not necessarily proof of something either. Proof of something requires verifiable facts and references, not just stuff said by somebody on the internet.
Look up the principles of critical media literacy.
But I, like anybody who actually thinks about things, try to rely on proven facts for most of my opinions, not speculation and potential evidence.
It's disgusting.
This very journal, as well as a number of your other journals, repeatedly and falsely link LGBT people as well as teachers and drag queens with pedophilia.
Absolutely nothing that I've said does.
I looked up the original sources that The Lotus Eaters obviously based their story on. As usual they distorted and spun the actual information to fit their sensationalist and bigoted narrative.
Most of the sources on this also had a clear right wing sbias, with sensationalistic headlines that distorted the truths actually embedded within the stories.
The facts seem to be that a some people at a children's Hospital in Chicago that has an interest in sex education and LGBT science and advocacy put together a program that included LGBT and sex positive teaching materials and resources that they thought should be available to kids as young as eleven, something that I'll go out on a limb here and say is by no means a bad thing.
They weren't pushing anything on anyone. They're only advocating that kids should be educated about their bodies and sexuality in a way that is positive and doesn't shame someone for their innate gender or sexuality.
These materials were shared with administrators and teachers at a handful of schools. There seems to be zero evidence that the administrators or teachers chose to share any of this with any kids.
So, as usual, The Lotus Eaters are full of shit.
Get better sources, dude.
Lawsuit Incoming.
If he does we'll just have to see if there's any proof of that.
No matter the outcome it still wouldn't prove that "The FBI is the SS of the Democrat party", or that they're biased against the right, or that investigating this case is the least bit illegitimate.
The last stuff I said stands in any case.
You can't prove a negative. We'll have to await the result of a lawsuit for that, won't we? Assuming that there is even a lawsuit or proof resulting from it.