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Professionalism Irony
2 years ago
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A person reached out to me recently to complain about another artist whom was having difficukt financial times and needed funds to make ends meet, and was taking in emergency commissions to do so. That artist posted a journal explaining the need for the funds and urgency behind the drive.
This person was offended and replied with unkind commentary about how unprofessional or nature the artist was to do so, and then immediately blocked that artist from responding to the accusations
They then started reaching and contacting those in Notes that spoke in support of this artist whom was taking in commissions to pay for said expenses, again claiming how unprofessional and immature the artist was. They added some extra lettuce and cheese with claims of how many hundreds of thousands of people they work with as a professional and would never stoop to asking for assistance because of how important and professional they are. I am not sure why they needed to keep reinforcing that tidbit, but there it is.
I did write up a curious response to what brought thus up or why they were contacting those that supported the artist openly, but they had blocked me. I don't block people typically. They are free to see and reply to this if they wish, perhaps to explain their actions.
To me, it is a mild curiosity for a person that kept repeating how professional and mature they are would block an artist for their effort to earn money for bills, block them from responding, then go behind their back to contact other supporters to complain at length how unprofessional or mature that artist is while they keep promoting their own actions.
Protip: If you are going to complain about someone not being professional or mature, perhaps you should consider your own actions present yourself as amateur and petty. Your message is lost in the delivery.
I won't identify them here. This was just unusual behavior. Have you artists that follow me deal with this sort of manufactured drama?
This person was offended and replied with unkind commentary about how unprofessional or nature the artist was to do so, and then immediately blocked that artist from responding to the accusations
They then started reaching and contacting those in Notes that spoke in support of this artist whom was taking in commissions to pay for said expenses, again claiming how unprofessional and immature the artist was. They added some extra lettuce and cheese with claims of how many hundreds of thousands of people they work with as a professional and would never stoop to asking for assistance because of how important and professional they are. I am not sure why they needed to keep reinforcing that tidbit, but there it is.
I did write up a curious response to what brought thus up or why they were contacting those that supported the artist openly, but they had blocked me. I don't block people typically. They are free to see and reply to this if they wish, perhaps to explain their actions.
To me, it is a mild curiosity for a person that kept repeating how professional and mature they are would block an artist for their effort to earn money for bills, block them from responding, then go behind their back to contact other supporters to complain at length how unprofessional or mature that artist is while they keep promoting their own actions.
Protip: If you are going to complain about someone not being professional or mature, perhaps you should consider your own actions present yourself as amateur and petty. Your message is lost in the delivery.
I won't identify them here. This was just unusual behavior. Have you artists that follow me deal with this sort of manufactured drama?
Any time a person brags and promotes how mature and professional they are, superior to everyone else, they demonstrate they do not understand the concept.
Curious behavior, but there it is.
I suspect contacting people without invitation to complain about their reactions to a third party's actions nears a contravention of the AUP - a bit like how you can't name and shame.
It is much like two people trying to get a message out to passerby on the street about some issue. One person is calm, presentable, has a table on the sidewalk with some literature and polite signage offering to engage with you if you want to learn more.
The other person is started naked and screaming from a lamppost, shouting in the faces of passerbys, gibberish accusations about the alien illegal baby if Elvis and Bigfoot.
Which one has a better chance of having their message received in an useful way?
*head shake*
Some people don't understand this.
My Mom and Grandmother (god rest her soul) used to fight about accepting "charity," as they called it, when one would try and pay the other for something they did for the other. Always saying, "I gotta pay you cause I dont accept Charity," and "you dont pay for favors between family i wont accept your Charity." They're reasoning was, it showed poor character and taking free stuff takes food out of the giver's mouth and that's wrong.
It's an old world value, back when everyone had very little and any charity meant starving for a few days for the giver. Depression era values. Those values get sent down through the generations resulting in issues like with my Mother and Grandmother, and this artist I assume. That's my take.
P.s. I typed this on my phone so this is less eloquent as I'd like. I also wont say anything about the rudeness cause that's pretty much agreed upon. Im talking about motives.
Money for Commission work.
Seems like a business transaction to me.
I am beginning to think this person had other problems like being denied a commission or couldn't afford it and was using this opportunity to bash the artist.
Having a grudge is a legit possibility as well.
Vix
I once was helping a young artist going though some shit... he was often depressed and I spent so many nights staying up talking him down from self harm. I was there to support him if needed even though he was biting at the heels of big artists for no reason. But I was there when to talk to when they swatted him away.
One day he decides to leave the fandom and puts all of his characters in my care. A few months go by and I've been piled with commissions so I hadn't had time to use any of his characters for the plans I had for them from before he even left. He comes back and demands all his characters back and wants any and all art I'd made of them... and at first I refused because of how he demanded rather than ask me... didn't even say hello first. Then he was mad that I didn't make any art for them. We get in a fight about it. But all of this drama even though not really public was still manufactured by him for legit no reason... no reason at all.
I have recently reported somebody who did just half that (complained about one of my pictures and blocked me to prevent any answer) and got his account nuked by the moderators, I would suggest you to do the same about that individual, you and everybody whom this person did the same...
Reporting such people is a public duty me thinks, for FA not becoming another Twatter, and it is quite silent, moreover since you can't warn them for being blocked - too bad for them!!
DUCK! HERE COMES ONE NOW! Wait… that’s me…
Never mind…
Vix
Vix
Mostly harmless. God bless Doug Adams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIu5GpV1iLI
There are professional artists and there are professional people.
And...honestly, it doesnt take a whole hell of a lotta work to be a professional person.
Probably TWICE as hard to be a professional artist but you catch my drift. :D
Guess they've never needed help. What an insensitive, privileged creep.
It'll be great when the day comes and they need some help.
General rule of thumb is that the more someone wants to answer a question that you didn't ask, the less likely whatever they are telling you is true.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the "artist" talking about professionalism and how much more professional he is than everyone else has a pay-per-view "premium content" website. Which nobody is paying for since his art isn't as good as he thinks it is, ergo he feels the need to go out and put down and troll all the artists who still take commissions (the business model that he felt was beneath him).
I have seen similar behavior in the past. Every now and then a troll or two will spring out of the woodwork to tell me that I have no right to any opinion other than their own, and more than once I have put them on block and been immediately sent a note by someone else trying to continue the "debate" where the first troll left off.
It's as cowardly as it is unprofessional.
It's also in direct violation of the ToS. So feel free to write a trouble ticket if you haven't already.
Meh. I'm done with it. It was just a mild curiosity about human behavior.
Turns out that would have been a charitable assessment. And yet I am still somehow not surprised.
I'd be most curious as if the complaint account was created just for the purpose of spreading this particular form of hatred.
There are people in genuine need, in these cases I'm more than happy to donate. And more than happy that they felt safe to reach out.
But like all good things, there are the bad apples. The people who buy a 3,000 dollar fursuit then say they can't pay their bills that month. In these cases, they are being fiscally irresponsible, and expecting others to support them. Another example that I've been through is "I can't afford food" following a post about how they just got a new (quite expensive) tattoo. It is absolutely immature to spend money on things you cannot afford, then beg for money.
However, it is also immature to go on a digital witch hunt to trash people you don't know for any reason. In the end, it's that person's business, and when people dislike something just move on. No need to go out of your way to morally police people you disagree with. I've blocked folks who had a habit of abusing the "emergency commissions" lable, after going to conventions, buying more animals they can't take care of, buying fursuit supplies. They aren't just stealing from kind hearted folks, it also takes away from people who are actually in desperate need.
Phew, my "two cents" turned into two bucks. I've been exposed to too many sketchy folks in my life, so it's likely my opinion is warped or bias.
People that give that money get scammed. Rarely twice will they fall for it, and that forces the grifter to purge their account content, pretend it never happened, or change accounts entirely to find new suckers
I've also been on the end of acquiring an emergency commission slot in a time of need... only to never get the art I paid for done. I won't mention names, obviously. It's happened more than once with different artists throughout my time in the fandom. It wasn't a lot of money, thankfully, but still a little annoying.
Then again, there's some loser who was constantly putting his mediocre out for sale on the front page of DA with his tale of woe, threatening to commit suicide by drinking or taking drugs if people didn't help him out (every week for months?).
I honestly hope he succeeded.
I miss you, Artie. I really do.
Then I got an irate eMail from her sister, demanding to know who I was. She had been called by the artist's work after three days of no-shows. She arrived to find the artist had OD'ed on Xanax, of all things. I was the last person to hear from her, and her eMail was still open to my address.
I never know how to handle these things...
Right! Got it.
I would have counter-blocked that individual, just to make sure I won't have to read of them again.