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I want an IT job
11 months ago
It keeps happening. I apply for dozens of entry level IT jobs, hoping the B.S in IT would actually matter. Sometimes a recruiter will come along and offer a helpdesk job or something of the sort. Recently some dude in Teksystems offered offered me a position to try this boot camp training that's followed by a year in an engineering role. Woulda been perfect to jumpstart my career and finally feel like my life is heading somewhere.
Had to jump through a bunch of hoops too. Had to take a Python and networking test online that was really strict about cheating, and barely passed. Recruiter insisted on calling me every morning to practice for the interview, where they ended up not even asking the questions the recruiter had me practice on anyways. And after that... nothing. It's been over 2 days since they said they'd get back to me, so it's safe to say I'm not considered anymore. Recruiter is literally hanging up my calls whenever I try to get an update on the situation.
It's just... I'm constantly having amazing job opportunities like that dangle in front of me, and then yanked away after I go through all the effort to grab them. I'm never told what I'm doing wrong, I don't know what there is I can improve on. The job market sucks, yes, but they told me this would be a big class with a bunch of roles that need hiring. This is an ENTRY level job, and I have a college degree, I passed their stupid exam...
And this all happened right after recovering from an amazing job opportunity that involved moving to Corpus Christi, too...
I literally feel despair. This has been going on for years and each time I feel a piece of my soul just leave my body. My health is deteriorating, and I keep telling myself "well when I get a job and can afford stuff I can get a therapist, I can start going to a gym again, I can go to more meets and not feel like I spent every penny." On top of feeling like I just wasted hundreds of hours and thousands of my parents' dollars from going through college. I can't even get an internship anymore.
I'm tired of being told "that's just the job market, man. Deal with it" and I'm also tired of following people's advice and still not getting anywhere. I'm at the point where the only options I can see are to go back to school and try to grab an internship that way, or just beg random people for a reccomendation for a job somewhere. Shit, furries are supposed to rule the IT world.
Had to jump through a bunch of hoops too. Had to take a Python and networking test online that was really strict about cheating, and barely passed. Recruiter insisted on calling me every morning to practice for the interview, where they ended up not even asking the questions the recruiter had me practice on anyways. And after that... nothing. It's been over 2 days since they said they'd get back to me, so it's safe to say I'm not considered anymore. Recruiter is literally hanging up my calls whenever I try to get an update on the situation.
It's just... I'm constantly having amazing job opportunities like that dangle in front of me, and then yanked away after I go through all the effort to grab them. I'm never told what I'm doing wrong, I don't know what there is I can improve on. The job market sucks, yes, but they told me this would be a big class with a bunch of roles that need hiring. This is an ENTRY level job, and I have a college degree, I passed their stupid exam...
And this all happened right after recovering from an amazing job opportunity that involved moving to Corpus Christi, too...
I literally feel despair. This has been going on for years and each time I feel a piece of my soul just leave my body. My health is deteriorating, and I keep telling myself "well when I get a job and can afford stuff I can get a therapist, I can start going to a gym again, I can go to more meets and not feel like I spent every penny." On top of feeling like I just wasted hundreds of hours and thousands of my parents' dollars from going through college. I can't even get an internship anymore.
I'm tired of being told "that's just the job market, man. Deal with it" and I'm also tired of following people's advice and still not getting anywhere. I'm at the point where the only options I can see are to go back to school and try to grab an internship that way, or just beg random people for a reccomendation for a job somewhere. Shit, furries are supposed to rule the IT world.
From what I can tell, most of these issues don't stem from the employers themselves, but rather the service you use to apply for these jobs.
Granted, I don't know what you're currently using to apply, if anything. But if it's something that's used by hundreds of thousands, if not millions, then it's better to contact companies directly rather than through these application platforms.
However, this in of itself can be tricky, since finding a company in the IT space that's hiring without the usage of an application platform isn't necessarily the easiest thing to do.
I do have a friend in the IT industry who would have much greater and clearer insight than I do, but if you should like, I could ask him about his process of gaining employment in the space if it would help ya' out? 👀
I'd love to hear what your friend has to say. I'd take any advice honestly. Thank you very much <3
In my experience, most of the hiring process stems from the impression you make on the employer with the little things, rather than the qualifications you have.
Qualifications do help and set a baseline for what an employer can expect from you, but teams usually always tend to train you up anyway, so what they mostly look for are your individual qualities rather than educational qualities.
I'll go ahead and ask my friend for ya' now, I may not immediately have an answer for ya', but I'm sure he'd love to help. ¬w¬
sadly i have no experience with this kind of bullshit
Uhh, I'll try giving my two cents? I hope this may help you or maybe any others looking at this post. About a year ago work needed to fill positions in the sales department, they had me interview folks because I've been doing pretty good at sales.
1. Staff Agencies -
https://www.appleone.com/
https://careers.astoncarter.com/us/en
I've seen ourselves ask these agencies for candidates, I've heard they were good at putting together resumes and they would share resumes to potential candidates. My boss would then choose whichever looked worthy for interview and I'd take it from there.
2. Interviewer - Since I've been here, people have skill sets in getting the job done but I need to be sold that I can trust and that there is potential. Resumes on paper is always a different story when having a face-to-face interview. I've seen great resumes but it didn't seem to match up when doing the face-to-face interview.
Just know the interviewers are paying attention, they need to be sold on your confidence, your potential and what sort of contribution do you bring to the workforce.
I have no experience with IT, but I'd want to know, be told that you know how to program, and either tell me how you can solve company problems or how it can be a useful asset. That's where if you show me real world applications of projects done in the past, I can turn around and tell whomever, that I just came across a candidate that can do x,y,z and see if that teams needs that.
3. I was just at a work conference and a large company mentioned they used this website, I don't know if this may be helpful but perhaps worth checking out? https://explore.skillup.org/all/open-jobs
I don't know if this is still a thing or reasonable in your area but look out for job fairs, or tech conferences. The big thing right now is all about who you know, and perhaps networking at those events would help get you leads directly with companies out there.
I wish you the best of luck Denya, I hope you can find some new leads out there. I don't see openings on my end, but if I happen to see any I can send it your way, DMs or something.
1: I've thought about going to a staffing agency of career consultant. I've just been a bit burned out on getting advice that may or may not work. I'll give your links a try though later when I can.
2. I don't have experience. I can say anything I want I feel like. I don'tk now how to find experience outside of buying more certs like comp TIA + but if thousands of hours and dollars for the Bachelors doesn't do it then I dont know what good a hundred more will do.
3. I'll take a look. I've been trying to ask every furry I can for an in, heh.
I appreciate it immensely. Thank you so much. I'm happy I got to hug you at AFC too <3
2. You can have all the certificates but experience matters a lot. I know you've mentioned interns but don't forget, volunteer work is also an option. Bonus points if it's an industry you want to be involved with down the road.
3.I knowww, aren't there discord groups or something out there that are Furry IT-related? I feel like there would be one out there somewhere.
You're very welcome <3 again, wishing you the best!
This has become a huge issue in the last 15 years
Wish you the best of luck choice ❤️❤️❤️
So you mention recruiters coming by offering helpdesk positions - have you tried taking these? Helldesk isn't fun, glamorous, or what anyone wants to be doing for the rest of their life, but I have started from a Helpdesk position before being promoted up to a more systems administratory position in the past (that company eventually imploded on its own due to other reasons). If you do well in that role, and demonstrate knowledge or a willingness to learn, you can move up, or at least use your current Helpdesk position as a resume item when you're jobseeking on the side.
What are the current kinds of jobs you're applying for? What tasks do they expect you to be able to complete? You mention Python and networking, and if most of the roles you want expect those, you may want to go for certs in those specifically. Spending the money on it sucks, but if you can instead get your foot in a door at a company that invests in furthering education for their workforce, you may be able to get classes and/or test vouchers for free. Both the last place I worked for and my current employer have offered this (my current employer is scheduling classes during paid work hours, too.)
Last, are you looking for remote work or in-person work? After my layoff, I spent a couple months fucking around trying to find remote work to no avail. I eventually spoke with an IT manager friend who told me to stop bothering - any remote position he opened got hundreds of applications in a week. This was a year and a half ago, but I imagine it's still about the same, with companies trying to move away from remote work, the remaining positions are becoming way more sought-after, and you're competing with everyone.
Anyway, good luck. Finding a job with no experience in the field can fucking suck and I hope you make it.