Here's the thing though, my country is NOT very LGBTQI+ friendly. Or even very non-white friendly. We're not as bad as some states in the US sure but still not very friendly towards those who would be fleeing the US. Heck, there's currently a political party that wants to ban all immigrants completely. As such, this might not be the best solution

Oof. Well, I’ll have to pass that along to the person who suggested it, then.

Cobalt I tried to warn you for your own good. I have a lifetime of brutal experience in a lot of these countries as a hired grunt. You may not like what I said enough to hide it but I'm trying to stop people from getting killed. Please realize I'm trying to help before someone takes you seriously and gets slaughtered. Believe me when I say how dangerous it is and that I don't want some poor artist to come home in the standard issue box. Please. I'm tell you Cas for some reason I actually care

If there was an actual point to what you wrote, then it is a shame you buried it under a sneering rant about liberals. You did not appear to be adding anything to the discussion but personal attacks and so you got pruned.

Next time, try sticking to the facts and keep your political opinions out of it.

Every word I said was true. I've been there and seen people multilated. You should listen to those who have been where you're going. Others have even confirmed it for you. But you know what? You're right. It's wrong of me to butt in. If people want to follow suicidal advice why should I honestly care. I see now we're not a community of caring anything. We're enemies. Tribes. My advice is neither accepted nor wanted anymore than years ago by newbies who found out the hard way and lost an ear for it. Because that's the way you want it to be. Fine. I'll say no more. Die as you morons see fit. You'll join the piles of others I was once responsible for babysitting to their next of kin complements of pemex. I'll just point and laugh from now on.

Every word of what you wrote read as bigoted fearmongering presented without any evidence of fact.

Read this: https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-.....ices/portugal/

And take note of this: “There were no reports of significant human rights abuses.”

You presented Portugal as a nation of bloodthirsty, murderous troglodytes, and backed that up with an “appeal to authority” fallacy. Your opinion does not appear to be realistic.

Where is your proof?

No sir! You're correct sir! Its perfectly safe sir. wunderbar idea sir. I recommend going there -sir. Have fun sir. 😎🍿

You are correct though. As far as I can find on the internet Portugal ranks fairly low on the overall crime rates listed by country, its a little lower than Israel.

It's still a silly idea to flee the country, Trump's going to have his hands full straightening out the border and getting the economy back on track to be worrying about gay people...

Oh when he crashes it, and adds another 7 trillion to the debt, I'm going to laugh.

Are you one of those rich celebrates that's been blinded to what normal people experience? The economy has been crashed for the last 4 years...

Plus there's the evidence that he actually fixed the economy the last time he was president, though it is true he added 6-7 trillion to the debt, Biden added around 8 and everything is measurably worse..

No I'm a blue collar worker who seen the bottom end and knows exactly what's happened in the last 4 years. The first two were rough, because of the tail end of covid. The stimulus cost a lot of inflation. That's been bugging us for a while, which of course raised prices on things. I also saw corporate greed where the price of food has far outpaced inflation. Imagine that! Corporations using inflation has an excuse to maximize profits. So maybe you shouldn't be blaming Biden and harris, you should be looking at the corporate raiders.

You'll get no argument from me when it comes to corporate greed. It's out of control!

But you did say Biden added $8 trillion to the debt. Do you have a source for that?

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/trump-an.....en-debt-growth
This doesn't have the final numbers for Biden because they aren't out yet; but it's going to be 8 trillion.

"Next time, try sticking to the facts and keep your political opinions out of it. "

Was this very post not a politically motivated opinion?

Cobalt, There is no country better than the US.

Pfft.

Then why aren't we ranked first on anything? I mean except highest incarceration. There's a whole rant about this on the first episode of Newsroom, and he actually used real facts in that rant. For the time. It hasn't gotten better

The US are ranked first. Ranked first in having the HIGHEST Price on Insulin.

Well, profits have to be made! / s

LOL. Thats a good one. Can't stop laughing.

Keep in mind, the "exile" doesn't have to be permanent. An overseas vacation while you're watching to see how that "dictator from day one" thing pans out is just sensible. And if the US doesn't end up on fire, you can return, rested and refreshed from your sabbatical.
I'd mention that Iceland is lovely in the spring, but we already have enough tourists.

And that was exactly the point I was making, thank you.

Iceland did score very highly as a good location for a long vacation.

I mean off the cuff, some of us may qualify for Asylum depending on what they do. I'm hoping they don't mess up the country too much. But I'm feeling kind of cynical

Authoritarians tend to follow a pattern, and it never ends up being good for creative types and free thinkers. What was that quote? History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme?

Yeah, I used that somewhere else lol. I don't know who said it though

Be carefull if you go to a EU country. Depending of the choice it might be, that you NEVER want to go back to the US, because there are quite some things which makes the live in the EU better then in the US. Beginning with health insurance. How was it again? In the US the Fanta is Fake? No Juice in it? Also getting medicine for an afortable price? Just check how much insulin costs in the US and then take any EU country as an example. We in the EU have the price regulated, not like in the US, where the government sees no need in it. The US was fucked up for many generations allready. Only that it gets more fucked up now once again. And who again shall become the HEALTH MINISTER? Oh yeah. Robert Kennedy. Having that you can do only one thing. RUN. RUN and don't look back. Believe me. Me as a European would welcome you. Me as a german would welcome you.

That's actually the place a friend of mine was looking to go to asylum. It was probably problematic for him though. Not something to discuss here

maybe you could move to one of those scandinavian countries, like denmark, sweden or norway.
hell maybe even those scandinavian island, if not it has to be canada, but don't seek a job at america,
donald fucking trump is going to bankrupt the entire country within a few year span, plus some raical bigotry at is finest.

I wish you the best no matter what you decide. Not sure I have anything to offer a country I might flee to, so I'll probably stay here and live in this soon to be dumpster fire.