Should I Stay, or Should I Go?
7 months ago
Step back.
Relax.
Just breathe, dont react.
The worst thing you could ever do is let them get the best of you.
Relax.
Just breathe, dont react.
The worst thing you could ever do is let them get the best of you.
Been feeling weird lately. Debating on if i wanna keep myself involved with the furry world...
i mean.. i DO wanna stay in.. but should I? Ive seen so many people I used to talk to just up and delete their FA and basically vanish from the fandom wholesale.. and that makes me think: Am I getting too old for this? Should I leave? When should I leave? How will I know when its time to go.. ?
I like the art and stuff, but the community these days... scares me. Not literally, but I just... the fandom doesnt hold the same feelings it used to. It just kinda feels.. I dunno.. forced?
I have so much art that I've never posted here because the drive to do so just.. isnt there. It just leaves me feeling like "Whats the point"?
I dunno. I mean.. I like the art and the creativity and I love being able to create fun and interesting characters and stories... But sometimes I just feel... i dunno.. isolated... ?
I've watched so many friends disappear. And many others turn on me. And others just fade away entirely. It makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.
On top of that.. It feels weird knowing I have a pup of my own now and still be involved in the fandom just because of what it is...
I dunno. I just needed some kinda way to vent. Perhaps I'm just being too nostalgic for my own good... Times were simpler then... I always used to feel like a superstar in this fandom, like I was always on top of the world, confident and cocky and so eager for anything and everything... Warranted or not, it just felt... good being here. People knew my characters by name, and it would always make my heart swell seeing people say how much they loved seeing Cobalt or Chloe or whoever...
I havent felt that in a long time. Makes me worry I'm losing my edge... and worse, it makes me worry that I'm getting too old and boring for this place, which in turn only makes me feel like I shouldnt be here...
My notes inbox here spans 16 years into the past. Reading those old notes... I Remember each and every one of them. The excitement of getting new art, of meeting new people in this wild, exciting place. I remember going to AnthroCon in 2009 and sitting out front of the hotel with people I'd never met, laughing and telling jokes, playing music and singing songs, where the only badge you needed to wear to a con was the one showing your online characters face and name...
I guess I'm just feeling nostalgic... Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt trade my life right now for anything: I'm married, I own a home, I have a son, and I make great money doing what I do... I guess I just feel like the fandom is a hobby that's been getting away from me in a way I cant control...
Even worse... I've seen so many amazing artists I used to look up to and commission just... close shop and quit the fandom entirely... It breaks my heart to see such amazing talent get pulled out of the community, as well as losing some of those relationships in general... But that only makes me wonder: Is there a point where the fandom just... doesnt appeal to people anymore? Is that a normal thing?
Maybe thats just how life is... Or maybe I'm just getting old...
i mean.. i DO wanna stay in.. but should I? Ive seen so many people I used to talk to just up and delete their FA and basically vanish from the fandom wholesale.. and that makes me think: Am I getting too old for this? Should I leave? When should I leave? How will I know when its time to go.. ?
I like the art and stuff, but the community these days... scares me. Not literally, but I just... the fandom doesnt hold the same feelings it used to. It just kinda feels.. I dunno.. forced?
I have so much art that I've never posted here because the drive to do so just.. isnt there. It just leaves me feeling like "Whats the point"?
I dunno. I mean.. I like the art and the creativity and I love being able to create fun and interesting characters and stories... But sometimes I just feel... i dunno.. isolated... ?
I've watched so many friends disappear. And many others turn on me. And others just fade away entirely. It makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong.
On top of that.. It feels weird knowing I have a pup of my own now and still be involved in the fandom just because of what it is...
I dunno. I just needed some kinda way to vent. Perhaps I'm just being too nostalgic for my own good... Times were simpler then... I always used to feel like a superstar in this fandom, like I was always on top of the world, confident and cocky and so eager for anything and everything... Warranted or not, it just felt... good being here. People knew my characters by name, and it would always make my heart swell seeing people say how much they loved seeing Cobalt or Chloe or whoever...
I havent felt that in a long time. Makes me worry I'm losing my edge... and worse, it makes me worry that I'm getting too old and boring for this place, which in turn only makes me feel like I shouldnt be here...
My notes inbox here spans 16 years into the past. Reading those old notes... I Remember each and every one of them. The excitement of getting new art, of meeting new people in this wild, exciting place. I remember going to AnthroCon in 2009 and sitting out front of the hotel with people I'd never met, laughing and telling jokes, playing music and singing songs, where the only badge you needed to wear to a con was the one showing your online characters face and name...
I guess I'm just feeling nostalgic... Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt trade my life right now for anything: I'm married, I own a home, I have a son, and I make great money doing what I do... I guess I just feel like the fandom is a hobby that's been getting away from me in a way I cant control...
Even worse... I've seen so many amazing artists I used to look up to and commission just... close shop and quit the fandom entirely... It breaks my heart to see such amazing talent get pulled out of the community, as well as losing some of those relationships in general... But that only makes me wonder: Is there a point where the fandom just... doesnt appeal to people anymore? Is that a normal thing?
Maybe thats just how life is... Or maybe I'm just getting old...
And ive been in the fandom for about 13 years, and ive always found a place for myself here, even if im not the most popular artist out there. I'm happy where im at, and if your happy where your at thats all that matters dude
Also dont get so worked up about the past, i know we all wish things were different, and wish we did this and wish we did that but hey thats in the past, time to move on.
Of course not to say you should leave there are folks around that do care and are still good friends, im happy to have known them for a long long time here, Telegram, Discord, etc. and of course u as well dude
Also the fandom aint nothin to get worked up over, its all about what you want out of it like i dont give a shit if i dont have much attention or famous or anything, that stuff doesnt appeal to me. What matters is what i want and that should be the same for you too dude, do what you want with ur life and dont let things get to you. Remember the good times, dont think about them as a bygone era you cant return to, cuz thats not what the past is for. Its for us to learn and grow and find ourselves in the world., especially cuz most of us are all still really young adults that get worked up too much bout life tbh.
Woo boy thats a long one lol I'm here for ya if u want to talk man u know where to find me, just puttin my 2 cents in~ Peace
Believe me, we’ve all felt this before, I know I have, when my dad had a stroke and refused to get help. It didn’t stop me though. I know it can be rough, but we’re here for you, friendships come and go, but new ones are made, along with new generations of bronies and furries.
Again we’re all here for you and you can talk with us anytime
I hope this helps
I know I'd miss you and your awesome stuff if you left.
Things have changed. Some folk have... left without intending. A guy I knew personally. A few artists that were instrumental in early interaction. Its a fandom of people. And people can do a lot of things.
I'll say this, I hope you stay. There's no time limit. No age-out. Its nice having you. But, you choose.
Since it seems you would not be upset by advice, I shall offer mine: Step back for a while and see how much you miss the fandom. However, don't burn any bridges by destroying what you have here. Leaving everything in place will let you smoothly return if that is your eventual choice, and it does not punish the people (like me) who find joy by perusing your gallery.
I admit this second reason is somewhat selfish, but I do feel that my world is diminished when artwork goes away. I'm sure many other people feel the same.
Do I wish it was the way it used to be? Of course, but I wish that about a lot of things. For all its faults, the fandom still gives me something I can't get anywhere else. It'll keep changing, and I'll keep watching it all happen.
Recently had this conversation with my own base, wondering.....are we just getting older, or maybe Politics have just...fucked this fandom.
Its real interesting to think about.
I havent considered myself a Furry, just an enjoyer, but Ive really felt a turn in this fandom and community from what it once was, since...2015 or 16.
The last recent Decade has just been...man.
I'm going to be 38 this year myself and I'm really only interest in the art and some world building that other artists/commers do. Everything else I've just fallen out of interest over time (from the reasons we discussed in your prev journal).
Times do be changing and we're no exception that that rule. But aye, I do think it is a mixture of us getting older and the current flow/tide of pol has become a dividing factor that pushes some of us away from the fandom over time.
Honestly for me personally, my best decade was during the early 00's, when I was going to college and reading all the Fur webcomics and being engrossed within the fandom and early forums way back then. Today?, nah, not the same feeling, and I feel way more disconnected and semi isolated than ever before (Which is just me posting on here now and then via some journos or 1 community art server on Discord).
At 38 (yikes, I know), I’ve reflected a lot on nostalgia. Even if we could go back, we wouldn’t fit in—those times are gone. But that doesn’t mean the fandom is dead or uninteresting. Art quality has improved, and people are more proactive in sharing. Politics hurt the fandom, but I see signs of balance returning.
Machine learning has also reshaped things. Being an artist doesn’t feel special when AI can generate art effortlessly. It forced me to reconsider what I love about this space—not NSFW, con parties, or clout, but the appreciation of anthropomorphism, aesthetics, and world-building.
I stay because I enjoy creating. I’m not here for status or popularity—there’s nothing prestigious about being a big name anymore. That realization is freeing. The real joy is in curiosity, creativity, and sharing with like-minded people.
It's your choice if you want to stay or leave obviously. All the best either way.
In the past 6 months, I got two commissions—one from one middle aged artist who could only work on my art bits at a time because his computer is in the family living room and his kids run up on him all the time, and one from a middle aged artist whose wife not only knows about his yiffy job, but fully supports it, and has her own fursona.
It's all about you and your partner. There are SO MANY married/established couples on here who support each others' furry yiff creations. And I know so many couples who WORK TOGETHER on them!
Of course, having a child DOES change things, but any family can find a healthy balance with work and communication.
As for the community—yes, it's also changing. There's jerks and bullies; always has been. But there's also good and accepting people too. Always has been. It's definitely gonna be tough, no doubt about it, but I think that's what makes finding that special group worth it.
In terms of creating and releasing art, well...I can't draw so I can only give you advice on the 2nd half. But I guess it can apply to both! What I personally like to do is gather up everything I haven't yet uploaded, and put it aaaalll in one folder. (back it up, if necessary) When you feel like uploading, post a couple of pictures or so! When you feel like drawing, draw a little bit. Do so when you feel motivated to do so; nibble on that elephant. After you upload each piece, put it in a different folder, or what I like to do is zip it so it doesn't show up. Elephant? What elephant?
BUT!! I will say this: READ DOWN HERE, COBALT!
Ultimately, it will be your choice whether or not you decide to hang it up or keep going. Of course I'll support you either way; you're certainly still a superstar in my eyes. One thing I WILL warn you about however is this: whichever route you choose—DO. NOT. DELETE. YOUR. SUBMISSIONS.
I know what you're thinking, "Oh this is just so you can keep fapping to my stuff, blah blah blah" and to be honest, you are partially correct. But the main reason is this. I've been part of the furry fandom for twenty one years myself, and have watched/enjoyed thousands of accounts. I can't accurately say what percentage of creators over the past two decades have quit, and which have stayed. BUT, what I DO KNOW, GUARANTEED, is that for anyone who's ever come back(and yep, a whole lot have) ONE HUNDRED PERCENT—YOU CAN'T GET ANY HIGHER THAN THAT—EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER DELETED THEIR ACCOUNT OR THEIR SUBMISSIONS, HAS REGRETTED IT WITH ALL THEIR HEART UPON THEIR RETURN.
ALL of them.
I've tried to warn people, both successfully and unsuccessfully. And it's literally 1:1 all the exact same thing: Either "I'm so glad I didn't" or "I wish to god I didn't".
So regardless of whether you do decide to leave or not...keep your stuff here. Take my word for it.